Printer for a teacher

[drenader]

*Edit*This is no longer really even the same topic. Sorry for bringing this back from the dead, but It is regarding this printer (the great ip3000) that my issue comes from.
My moms ip3000 has been nothing short of amazing. In fact I am moving and was going to buy another for me. Cheap ink and fast amazing prints.

Why has the price gone up in the after market field? Ebay has listed items being sold for over $100, some are even used. I understand that this is no longer being made but I paid $70 for mine and it was $50 after rebate back when this post was originated. Why the increase in price now?*end edit*

My mother has had bad luck with printers as of late, epsons seem to just die in front of her. She is a kindergarden teacher and prints a lot of lightly colored documents to hand out to parents. What would be a good efficient printer, that the ink wouldnt cost an arm and a leg to replace?

Thank you in advanced for your reccomendations.

dre

[ckj]

I don't have a reccomendation perse, but it may be worth looking at the price of printer ink, and then looking for the printers that use this ink. Since printing companies make money of the ink, not the printer. Also, don't be afraid of off brand inks, I use them in my printers just because they're much cheaper than epson branded or hp branded inks.

[hibner]

Personally, I would go with HP. there computers suck, but there printers rock. Go figure. They have good print quality and relatively cheap ink. On the flip side. Lexmark has some of the most expensive ink.

[David]

Lexmark printers eat ink.

Try a Hewlett Packard as suggested - the HP 2435 (I think thats the model number) is a decent photo printer.

[aeiou]

It doesn't sound like they need a photo printer. Since she will be doing lots of printing, though, she may want to look into a color laser. Initially it will be quite a bit more and the toner carts are expensive, but they last a really long time and lasers are quite fast.

[laynlow]

I despise HP printers and their two cartridge system. If she must go inkjet then I would recommend something with individual ink tanks. That way you only replace the color that is empty.

Aside from that, I would just recommend a consumer grade HP laserjet. The one thing I think that HP does well is laser printers. Cheap to operate and usually workhorses. If she must have color, then color laser is probably the way to go.

[DaWiper]

Get a Hp or any printer that can use Dataline unoriginal ink. I buy unoriginal ink for my deskjet930c. Works great. I save 50% in cost, and only get a slight worse result when doing photo prints. (I mostly just do text)

[seadave77]

I was going to suggest color laser as well, but when I was running the numbers it cost more to print color on a laser than it did on an inkjet. Which surprised me. About 50% more. It is still more cost effective to print black on a laser though. About 200% less than an inkjet.

<disclaimer>
These figures based on numbers on Office Depots website today and may not be the best deal out there. These numbers are meant as a reference not a fact.
</disclaimer>

[Outlaw Wizard]

i would buy a canon printer and then go to printpal and buy the ink . here is a link to canon printes on on newegg
I would recoment the ip3000 canon printer unless you are printing several pictures .



http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/searchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&Range=1&DEPA=0&bop=and&description=canon&InnerCata=38

here is where i buy ink

printpal.com

there are no monitoring decives in the ink cartrige

[threeme2189]

i hate expensive ink.....

[Outlaw Wizard]

me too, i had a lexmark for a while before i knew better .they give you the printer but sale you the ink for 2 arms and a leg or 2 . i now have a canon and it cost a whole lot less . when i bought my last printer i had some requirements :
individual cart for each color .
ability to refil or buy 3 party carts .
no electronics in the cart .
at the time i bought my printer there were no cd printing printers i wish mine would do that .

[drenader]

when i bought my last printer i had some requirements :

no electronics in the cart .


I hate fighting with it to change the ink becuase the onboard thing says there is still some in there when there is clearly none.

dre

That cannon looks like a good one, I also like your requirments. I think laser isnt going to be an option since she likes using the printer for the occasional photo print out, and the cost was just listed as being more. So as of now, HP and Cannon with seperate color cartridges appear to be the best bet.

[aeiou]

Go canon, not a question. An ip3000 or so would be great. I have an ip5000 and I love it.

[CeeDeeJay]

When purchasing printers the following must be considered:
1) Several Companies are famous to sell you printers at cheap prices but really jack-up the price of ink everytime you need ink.(these companies are famous about filing suits to attempt anyone except themselves from manf ink cartilages or refills)
2) Several Companies quote you a cheap selling price but by the time you buy the necessary cables and ink the price is not longer cheap.Some even print on the box color ink included but fail to mention black ink not included.
3) Some companies brag only one ink cartilage needed however when one color runs out you throw away a lot of ink of differant colors because all colors are in one cartilage.
4) Some companies try to dazzle you with electronic sensors and readings from the printer.These can come back and haunt you when it says your expirdation date has passed and ink must be replaced(yes some companies do this so in addation to running out of ink you might run out of time) or maybe the sensor says you don't need ink but do.
5) Some off brand companies and CHEAP product lines from other printer companies work when you first buy them but they drop the cheap product lines and fail to keep the drivers current so they won't work or they will only work after you pay them more money to buy new drivers.

[drenader]

You guys seem to have me pretty sold witht he canon ip3000. The initial price is right and the ink is very resonably priced. As far as printers like these go would you reccomend off brand cartridges?

Or maybe just reccomend a completly different printer than the one stated above.

Thanks

dre

[CeeDeeJay]

The ip3000 meets all the desired standards:
1) The package is sold without hidden missing items.
2) Replacement cartilages are availible and in new and reconditioned condition.
3) Differant color cartilages are availible thus requiring only replacement of ink actually used.
4) No electronic printhead data to cause a problem to the user.
5) It is a repetable company with drivers availible online.
6) It is very functional unit at a resonable price with expectation of resonable
normal operating expence or less.The reviews promise a solid preformer.
7)At a cost of $64.95 (with a promise of a $20 rebate at Newegg)) and replacement cartilages availible thru places (like printpal) it seems to be a solid
choice.
8) In addation to reviews that provide specific like strong page printing data and excellent dpi options you cannot overlook the hands on experience of users.I am familar with several or these printers and they have preformed superior.It seems like of users have positive things to say about them also.
When people like Outlaw Wizzard and aeiou have positive results they convience me.
9) To answer your specific question I am not afraid of replacement cartilages for this printer.

[aeiou]

Don't use the 3rd party inks, though. THey may save you money, but imho, they are not worth it as they will void your waranty, possibly harm the printer if they aren't up to spec, have slightly different color qualities, so the colors will be off and so on.

Also, if you don't already have one, buy the usb cable for it online, not at the store. I made the mistake of paying $20 :O for mine and found out it was like $5 at newegg. Of course, if you are buying it online anyways, this is a moot point.

[four4875]

are there any settings on the comp to use to preserve ink and further save money? for general handout printing, i wouldnt tihnk it would have to be uber-photo quality.

i have come t love HP laser printers, ive had 3 different ones (not really mine, brothers and dads :-( ) but they are all awesome.

[aeiou]

Higher quality= more ink. If you want to save ink and don't care about quality- use the lower settings. This will be faster, too.

[tenchi86]

Yeah its all quality, my hp can do something like 1200 DPI but if since I want to save ink I useally have it set on fast draft which I think is only 300 DPI. You can also futher save ink but going to ink thinkness/color settings and turn iut all the way down. I dont remember the excact names since my printer it unistalled right now.

[drenader]

On the comment on laser printers, for myself I own an hp laserjet4 plus that has lasted over 5 plus years of teenage abuse. For this instance it wouldnt be practicle though. I went ahead and just ordered the ip3000 from newegg that comes with a $20 mail in rebate, so the price is right and another informed by with the help of the fellow members at the OC forums; thanks a lot guys.

dre

[drenader]

Sorry for bringing this back from the dead, but It is regarding this printer that my issue comes from.

It has been nothing short of amazing. In fact I am moving and was going to buy another for me. Cheap ink and fast amazing prints.

Why has the price gone up in the after market field? Ebay has listed items being sold for over $100, some are even used. I understand that this is no longer being made but I paid $70 for mine and it was $50 after rebate back when this post was originated. Why the increase in price now?

[SeanB66]

damn, i was going to recommend the Lexmark X3350 scanner/copier/ink printer...its pretty good and cheap!

[drenader]

Well I guess I am in the market for a printer and am willing to hear from you guys regarding new printers that are out.

But i am just perplexed. The ip3000 is twice the price it was a year ago. I am wondering why this is.

[aeiou]

well, if you can find an ip5000, the canon website says that the street price should be $80 on those now... its an upgraded model (I got mine for about $200 about a year and a half ago) but it seems that it may be cheaper now :confused:

[drenader]

I dunno I am going to college and would hate to lug my large laserjet 4 plus. It is a champ but it has began to leave black marks along the edge of papers. It is more than 10 years old so it has long served its duty.

I am just very impressed with canon's ink consumption as well as love the individual ink cartridges.

[CeeDeeJay]

Canon has produced several cheaper priced and solid printers.This claim has been supported by reviews as well as many personal experiences.This has resulted in large sales.However people are reluctant to change when the know a product works really well.
I believe this is what is making the ip3000 bring so much money.I know I would rather have the proven product than there new product.I have to keep in mind that I felt the same way about the printer they produced prior to the ip3000.
Probably another factor is everytime they release a new product it is higher priced in addition to not being a proven product.
A lot of people are reluctant to use replacement cartilages and I might be also if I paid $3000 bucks for a printer but when I pay $50 to $100 bucks it doesnt take long for me to save enough by buying paypals $5 buck replacements instead of wal-marts $20 buck plus cartilages.

[aeiou]

It isn't so much that for me, but I guess mostly because I am a photographer, so I wan't my colors to be dead on as much as possible, and the only way to gauruntee that the colors are how Canon meant them to be is to use their inks.

[DaWiper]

I just upgraded from a hp deskjet 930c to a Canon Pixma 5200. All I can say is "wow"! It's extremly fast, the overal feel of the printer is good(quality/mechanics(sp?) and photo quality is great... I'm not sure how much this printer costs in US, but I paid about ~200$ for it(Norway). All in all I'm very impressed.

EDIT: I guess the US price for this printer would be something like 130-170 if I compare it with other computer part prices....

[RJARRRPCGP]

Lexmark printers eat ink.


Is that why a Lexmark printer that someone has ran out of ink after printing some photos?
The photos also had faint vertical lines. :confused:

But, the person that was printing the photos said that the lines may be caused by DRM! :mad:

She said that it's possibly because of copyright issues.

What's the likelihood of faint vertical lines being caused by DRM?

It better hell not be DRM! :mad:

[drenader]

Is that why a Lexmark printer that someone has ran out of ink after printing some photos?
The photos also had faint vertical lines. :confused:

But, the person that was printing the photos said that the lines may be caused by DRM! :mad:

She said that it's possibly because of copyright issues.

What's the likelihood of faint vertical lines being caused by DRM?

It better hell not be DRM! :mad:


I think this means that the heads need to be cleaned. Used to happen a lot with my epson.