My 830 Results!

[TechtonicPC]

Hey, if you don't already know, I just put together a new system.

Pentium-D 830
ASUS P5WD2-Premium
MAXTOR Diamondmax 10 SATA HDD (300gb)
Mushkin DDR2-800 (1GB)
XP-120 with 118cfm Panaflow
Blah, blah, blah

First thing I did was upadte the bios to the 0509. The I set the multiplier to 14X. Here is a stock CPU-Z with 14X multi!

http://techtonicpc.com/images/stock14xmulti.JPG

Then I went in and reset the ram timings to 5-3-3-12 and changed the divider to 3:5.

Next I actually lowered my vcore to 1.225. (At idol my vcore shows 1.304, but at full laod it drops to 1.25) I then upped my FSB to 260. This gives me an effective clock rate of 3646.4mhz. This also gave me a ram clock of 870mhz.

My temps are 42C idol and got up to 57C load while running PCMARK04!

http://techtonicpc.com/images/PCMARK260FSB.JPG

As you can see I am pretty damn happy. I am tired for tonight, so more to come! :)

[hyperasus]

Looking good. Keep it up.

[hyperasus]

After playing with my 830 I knew 3.6 would be easily done on air. Probably more like 3.8.

[dylskee]

Thats pretty damn good with that voltage!!!

[TechtonicPC]

Ok did some tweaking with the memory. Have the timings set to 5-3-3-8 now. Here are some benchmark pics:

http://techtonicpc.com/images/memorytimings.JPG

http://techtonicpc.com/images/memoryread.JPG

http://techtonicpc.com/images/memorybandwidth_copy(1).JPG

Not gonna push CPU any further at the moment. The temps hit 60C full load during the day! more to come :)

[TechtonicPC]

Here is a quick Sandra multimedia Bench!

http://techtonicpc.com/images/cpumultimedia.JPG

[TechtonicPC]

Someone asked about SuperPI. I don't know anything about this benchmark, but here are some scores from it. I did through the 2mb test.

http://techtonicpc.com/images/superpi.JPG

[TechtonicPC]

Ok was getting prime errors so I upped the vcore to 1.275, (Still below stock default settings). Set up two instances of Prime and did the Large FFT's Torture Test. Have 100% CPU usage.

Max temps are 66C and it is running wihtout errors now. I will post a screenie after it runs for about 20mins or so.

[batboy]

We generally use the 1M Super Pi test for comparison purposes.

Another good benchmark to try is PCmark2004, plus it's a quick stability test too. Next best thing to Prime.

I was going to say something about the RAM timings being so relaxed until I saw you were running DDR2-868. Impressive! But, my experience with DDR2 has shown you get better performance with tighter timings even if you have to lower the ratio. Maybe try the 3:4 ratio and see if you can use lower latency. If possible, then try the same benchmarks and see if there is much difference.

[TechtonicPC]

We generally use the 1M Super Pi test for comparison purposes.

Another good benchmark to try is PCmark2004, plus it's a quick stability test too. Next best thing to Prime.

I was going to say something about the RAM timings being so relaxed until I saw you were running DDR2-868. Impressive! But, my experience with DDR2 has shown you get better performance with tighter timings even if you have to lower the ratio. Maybe try the 3:4 ratio and see if you can use lower latency. If possible, then try the same benchmarks and see if there is much difference.

PCMARK04 I ran and results on first post. Yea I am still palying with ram. Dropping the timings to 5-3-3-8 actually decreased my pcmark04 score by 100 points. Not sure why, Will do some more experimenting.

[batboy]

Ok, there is the PCmark score next to the CPU-Z screenshot. Wow, 7k and you are just getting started, nice.

Sometimes if your RAM is starved for voltage it will drop benchmark scores a little. If you are still at default RAM voltage, bump it up one notch.

[hyperasus]

I didn't have any luck trying to run my mushkin 6400 with timings lower then 5-3-3-12. Better to run those timings and get the mem frequency up as high as possible.

[TechtonicPC]

Ok so far so good. 32minutes of prime wiht no errors. Here is my prime screen shots.

http://techtonicpc.com/images/prime95260fsb.JPG

http://techtonicpc.com/images/prime95260fsbidol.JPG

[TechtonicPC]

Memtest screenshot. Ram is at 5-3-3-8

http://techtonicpc.com/images/memtest.jpg

[Sentential]

Lookin good so far but you ought to crank the speed up a tad more.

[TechtonicPC]

Been tweaking on the video card now some! Here is my 3DMark03 Results:

3DMARK03 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4131993)

6890 is not too bad with a 75 dollare video card :)

[HempHog]

Right on man, looking good so far. I'm kinda curious about the whole voltage thing since I have to run 1.4125 to be 100% stable. Why would you lower it below the default, shouldnt it be less stable?

[TechtonicPC]

Right on man, looking good so far. I'm kinda curious about the whole voltage thing since I have to run 1.4125 to be 100% stable. Why would you lower it below the default, shouldnt it be less stable?

I lowered it because I was trying ot keep temps down. At 1.275 vcore and 260fsb (14X multi) I am completely stable. Able to run to instances of prime and pcmark04!

Hyperasus was able to drop his vcore same as me, so i think you have some kind of issue there with yours.

[TechtonicPC]

Some more tweaking on video card. 492 core and 585 memory.
Hit 7149 in PCMARK03 and I am real happy with that!

PCMARK03 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4132030)

http://techtonicpc.com/images/3dmark03.JPG

Also reran PCmark04 and was able to to up that score a bit.
Hit 7067.

http://techtonicpc.com/images/pcmark04.JPG

[bapski]

hello surfrat..

im basically new to OC. and i am just starting to BREAK-IN my rig. main purpose of my rig is to just do video editing, authoring, ripping and burning while i surf, or watch tv progs on my monitor or maybe a dvd movie without my rig CHOKING. thats why i got the pentium d which is same as yours along with the board.

was hoping you can help me tweak my rig as i really am dizzy with the settings you guys are mentioning. i have however tried my hand on OC'ing and have had several RE-BOOTS ALREADY. the recent one however is based on an OC PROFILE. WAS JUST SURPRISED TO SEE UPON START UP THAT MY SPEED WAS UP TO 3.7!?? :shrug:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/oc/benchmark3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/oc/benchmark2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/oc/benchmark1.jpg

with the settings you see on the pics i was stable at 60 (with far cry running on the background) tried to push it further by trying to author a DVD with DVD ARCHITECT WHEN SUDDENLY I HEARD A BEEP! I WAS UP TO 70! CLOSED DVD ARCHITECT.

im still with my stock hsf, with my ARMOR CASE STILL OPEN AND 3 FANS RUNNING.

im hoping you can help me out with the appropriate settings that is suited for my rig.

thanks in advance.

....wonder if i should leave the pc running overnight? :shrug:

[hyperasus]

bapski I don't know what is going on with your pc probe but its wack. Your MB temp is higher then your CPU temp. And what is the Power Temp you have there? I don't even have an option for Power temp. I see you have mbm5 down by the clock. Your screenshots look like your computer is idol yet mbm5 says your temp is 58c. Your Vcore looks like it is set to high.

[hyperasus]

With the stock heatsink and fan you should probably back it down to 240fsb and set your vcore to 1.225 like Surfrat did. Give it a try and see how your temps look.

[bapski]

thanks for the reply..

good thing i decided to turn the pc off then. i just thought something wasnt right.

tried to lower down the vcore setting but think 1.5 is the lowest i can see.

just woke up. will try to see if i can change the setting/s you suggested before i go to work.

thanks. will post result later.

[Sucka]

Wow that thing runs HOT!

Looking good though :thup:

[bapski]

i did see the lower vcore setting and i have the it down at 41 with just this window running.

yup surf.. im wondering about the readings too. should the mbm5 and probe readings be the same or somewhat within range?

how does this things get their readings? coz i thought maybe because i just plugged the FANS wherever i can see i can plug them. should they be plugged in specific places?

i have 2 fans plugged on the motherboard. the rear one i plugged i think on the chan_fan1 and the front one i plugged on the cha_fan2 is that correct?

anyways got to go to work... will see yah guys later..

and oh im still using my stock hsf. what do you guys think of a xp-90c with a tt ufo#2 as a fan?

thanks again guys.

[diehrd]

First off his main bpard is warmer because thats the temp of the VRM I beleive..And that will run hot as you can imagine when you push these dual cores..

I am still not impressed with the Dual core Intel..From the tests you have run and scores reported back it is about on par with a dual xeon.Which is not bad but to me Intel screwed up again with this offering....Although for the money I will agree it is nice I just would have liked to seen something new and unique with new unique perfromance..

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=3001228

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=15348

Those are My dual Xeon scores..Total cost 500.00 Ram,Cpu, Mainboard.

[batboy]

We may just be seeing the tip of the iceberg here. Remember, dual Xeons have been around a long time, but dual core processors are brand new. So look for major improvements as they work out the bugs. I bet when they release the new steppings, the 8XX series will really start looking good. That's when I'm going to jump into the fray.

[diehrd]

We may just be seeing the tip of the iceberg here. Remember, dual Xeons have been around a long time, but dual core processors are brand new. So look for major improvements as they work out the bugs. I bet when they release the new steppings, the 8XX series will really start looking good. That's when I'm going to jump into the fray.


Dont count on it..So far the only thing that has changed is moving 2 cores to 1 die..As far as system operation it still works like my dual xeon..

They need totally new cores..And a beter managment system that eliminates using the north bridge as a path for the cores to communicate..

If Intel does that I would then suggest there on top again..but if all the do is offer faster clock speeds I would not be impressed . .

Not to thread jack..So Ill step back..nice rig and decient scores in the benchies :) :) :)

[batboy]

You make a good point, but that sounds more like a need for better chipset architecture as well as new cores (in your opinion). I know what you mean though, Intel seems to just be making baby steps instead of large leaps. This is probably being done for two reasons: 1) they want us to keep gradually upgrading for more profits and 2) they have to release new and improved products to compete with AMD. The can't just take their time and develop new platforms or they will lose market share in the meantime.

[bobad]

Someone asked about SuperPI. I don't know anything about this benchmark, but here are some scores from it. I did through the 2mb test.

http://techtonicpc.com/images/superpi.JPG

Most people use the 1meg test. You got 34s, which is darn fast. Fastest I have ever seen was ~27sec.

[TechtonicPC]

I am in no way claiming that this is great. I am just pretty happy with my price vs performance ratio. Sent says that these new Asus boards are posting temps about 10c higher then what the temps really are. I have no way to confirm this, and I am very happy with how stable my rig is running now, so I am not gonna push any further on air.

The fact I was able to drop vcore to 1.275 and still get a 600mhz overclock, is testimate to how well these run. With water cooling, these things are guaranteed to hit 4ghz, and have two cores at 4ghz is pretty darn nice considering the $300 price.

Intel still has a lot of room to improve obviously, but I think they did a good thing with bringing these to market at a competitive price.

Hyperasus is getting a nice stable 4.1ghz overclock with his memory running at 1000mhz and the same timings I am using. When I get a water, I will push further, but for now I am very happy with the speed and how stable this beast is.

I use Pennacle to make home movies and I can tell ya that my encoding time has been cut in half. This was obviously the biggest improvement I noticed, and was well worth the price of admission. I have two small children, so I always am burning new home movies! :)

Bapski, I suggest you drop your vcore to about 1.275. Remember I locked my multiplier to 14! You will need Bios 0509 for that if you don't have it. Look in the Asus Mobo section of these forums, I posted it on one of the threads about the P5WD2. After that you can try and set your FSb to 250. You should be fine at that speed even with the stock cooler.

The XP90C is a great Heatsink. You will need that or the XP120 to cool these babies if you are sticking with air. Make sure you pair them with a good highflow fan. I chose the Panaflow 118cfm.

I have no experience with your ram, so i don't know what to tell ya on that stuff. Trial and error or maybe someone else will know an optimal mhz to run it at.

Let me know if I can be any further help.

[Ross]

Sent says that these new Asus boards are posting temps about 10c higher then what the temps really are.
I don't know if it's actual temps or just readings, but my P5WD2 definitely reads 10C hotter than my P5AD2-E did on the same exact hardware/cooling. Maybe the P5AD2-E was 10C low instead? In either case the P5WD2 is an awesome board!

[nikhsub1]

I don't know if it's actual temps or just readings, but my P5WD2 definitely reads 10C hotter than my P5AD2-E did on the same exact hardware/cooling. Maybe the P5AD2-E was 10C low instead? In either case the P5WD2 is an awesome board!
Exaclty, perhaps Asus has gone to reading the on die instead of insocket... do temps jump quickly from idle to load?

[Ross]

I get about a 2-3C jump immediately when starting a Sandra bench and then they creep up from there (when the prog has time to update during a bench). I am not really sure how long it takes or what constitutes a "quick jump", but it doesn't go from idle to full load temps in one shot :)

I can say that it peaks closer to the middle of the bench and stays relatively flat after than on a Sandra bench where as before it would hit the hottest temp at the end of the bench if that helps your assessment :)

[bapski]

hello again guys..

just went to work how amazed i was on how OC can up the speeds of these cpu's!

was surprised to see i was at 3.72! but was more surprised to see others with the same specs as mine at 4.2! now that's where i want to be. can you guys help me out? hey surf! i might take you up on that help you are extending. am ok with msn.

guys, with me going for 4.2, will aircooling be enough or do i have to move to water cooling? am new at this and im not that comfortable with the thought that water might spill on the board! :eh?:

thanks again guys and hopefully i can maximize this rig and totally be happy.


and oh btw. how come i cant run Ai booster? it always says i have to enable ai nos on the bios setup which i have done but i still get the same error. anyone of you guys encountered this?

oh surf, yes i have the current bios version and i was able to lower the vcore setting same as yours. any more setting i should change to go towards 4.2 :p

thanks again.

[TechtonicPC]

Yea, you will need water cooling if you want to hit 4.2 stable. Anything much over 3.7 and you gotta start ratchiting up the vcore, which in turn cranks up the heat.

What are all your stats now? FSB, Multi, vcore, vdimm, ram frequency, pci-e frequency, and temps!

Don't know anything about the AI booster, so not sure on that one.

Run PCmark04. If it completes and gives you a score, then you are pretty much stable.

[hyperasus]

Yeah you wont hit 4.2 without water. If that's the speed you are after then plan on spending $150-$200 on watercooling. Worth every penny if you ask me.

[Sentential]

Exaclty, perhaps Asus has gone to reading the on die instead of insocket... do temps jump quickly from idle to load?
Yes, its very jumpy.

[bapski]

something might have happened.

ran PRIME95 and left pc to have dinner.. when i came back my system i guess has rebooted because i did not see the PRIME95 active on my tray.

shucks.. i need water! i just ordered UFO #2 to use with either an XP-90C OR XP-120.

guess 4.2 has to wait then..

will reboot and see if there's any setting i need to change.

will be back.

played around with MBM 5 now i dont 0 readings on my CPU! WHAT GIVES?

[TechtonicPC]

I did some testing tonight with vcore at 1.275. I started at 270fsb. Here are my results.

270: Not Stable - PC Mark No Run
265: Not Stable - PC Mark No Run
263: Not Stable - PC Mark No Run
261: Stable but gittery - PC Mark Ran
260: Perfect and Smooth.

So at 1.275 vcore, 260 is max fsb at 14X multi. Obviously that vcore is low, and lower then stock. so it seems anyhting over 260 is time to start adding voltage.

All tests were completed with the memory at 2.1 volts, and 5-3-3-8 timings.

[bapski]

UHM,. surf im running pcmark04 on my rig now and it seems to be running.. but am wondering why it shows im running at 400mhz? is this right?

also i think i have set mine at 266 fsb with vcore at 1.275

regarding memory timings.. which ones do i change since i see 5 settings? and most people doing OC are giving only 4 settings? i.e. you gave yours at
5-3-3-8.

think my corsair can be set to run at 3-3-2-8? how do i do this?

my pcmark04 is still running 30 of 44 tests.. guess am doing fine?

and what do i do with my MBM5? WHERE OR HOW DO I GET ACCURATE CPU, MB TEMPS?

[TechtonicPC]

UHM,. surf im running pcmark04 on my rig now and it seems to be running.. but am wondering why it shows im running at 400mhz? is this right?

also i think i have set mine at 266 fsb with vcore at 1.275

regarding memory timings.. which ones do i change since i see 5 settings? and most people doing OC are giving only 4 settings? i.e. you gave yours at
5-3-3-8.

think my corsair can be set to run at 3-3-2-8? how do i do this?

my pcmark04 is still running 30 of 44 tests.. guess am doing fine?

and what do i do with my MBM5? WHERE OR HOW DO I GET ACCURATE CPU, MB TEMPS?

The memory timings I am giving are the first 4 you see. They are under chipset configuration or somethign like that in bios. How tight you can run your timings depnds on the frequency/divider you use on your overclock. My ram is running at 870mhz or so. lower ram speeds and you can tighten (ie: lesson) your timings. Higher clock speed and you will need to loosen (ie: increase) your timings.

For PCMARK04 you only need run the first 10 tests. The "System 10 of 10" test. I should clarify that when I say PCMARK would not run for me at anything above 261, what I mean is that it would not give a score at the end, because one or more test failed.

Now if I increased vcore I would be fine, but my temps would go up! I am not willing ot do that until I get water on this baby. I am very happy with the performance of my rig as is. It is rock solid stable, and much faster then my other PC.

As far as accurate CPU temps, you are only get as accurate as the MOBO probe gives. None of the different windows programs to see temps is gonna change what the MOBO is giving. Some think the P5WD2 is reading from 5 to 10 celcius higher. I have no idea, cause I ahve nothing to compare it to.

[bapski]

hello again guys.. i really think my 3.7 settings are wacky. can you guys take a look at them and see where i need to change things? thank you.

AI OVERCLOCKING SET TO MANUAL. PCI SYNC CLOCK SET TO 33.33. why? i dunno. probably just "SAW" (not read!) from some OC forum and i just set it this way and got the speed to 3.7 i do doubt ive set this wrong.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/BIOS/100_1476.jpg

my cpu settings:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/BIOS/100_1479.jpg

am not sure what DRAM TIMING i will use when i set this to DISABLED
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/BIOS/100_1481.jpg

my temp readings...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/BIOS/100_1484.jpg

would really appreciate it guys if you can, AGAIN, help me out. thanks again.

[TechtonicPC]

I dont see anything wrong with your settings as long as it is stable. You claimed in one of your last posts that Prime failed. You are gonna need to give us some info on wether or not you can prime or run pcmark04 liek I suggested before.

Some things of note:

I see you raised your vcore a bit to 1.2875. (you get more stability this way?)

On your first picture, your PCI-E Frequency is set to auto. If you are having stability problems, you can try and set that to 100 see if it helps. Also your dram frequency is at 667. Nothing wrong with that, and it just depends on what your ram can do. Mine is currently at 868mhz or something very close to that.

You need ot ask some people with your ram what the best settings for it are. You can either set the timings tighter, or up your clock frequency on it.

Your temps look good. Better then mine read in bios. Mine hover at 49c or something int he bios, idol at 45c in windows.

Biggest thing you need to do and post is at least PCMARK04. If you run it and get a score then you are pretty much stable. If not, then you need to increase voltage or try loosining your ram timings. Also try the PCI-E lock I suggested.

[TechtonicPC]

Also I gotta ask, 24c case temps? Do you have the side off and what is the ambient temps in your computer room? That is damn cool!

[Sentential]

I dont see anything wrong with your settings
I do. Turn off PAT (peformance mode) run the standard AUTO and it should help you scale the FSB higher.

[TechtonicPC]

Aye, mine is actually set to 'Standard', didn't notice yours was turbo/

[bapski]

thanks guys.. wow, i thought you guys ran out on me. . .all these answers .. .makes me think you guys are out on a drinking spree... :p

Also I gotta ask, 24c case temps? Do you have the side off and what is the ambient temps in your computer room? That is damn cool!

cant believe my settings are just about right. :shrug:

now i know why its that low! yes i still have my side off as i am still in the process of assembling my rig. not only is it open, i am also working in the basement! where it is cold.

i tried raising the vcore because i was crashing just running some benchmark tests alone..

i will adjust settings and probably reinstall OS. WILL TRY longhorn. anyone tried it already?

[hyperasus]

I think the Auto setting sets it to Standard...so either one should work so long as its not set to turbo. Correct me if I'm wrong Sen.

[hyperasus]

Also since we are on the subject...do any of you have any luck with enabling Hyper Path 3, and what is Dram Throttling Threshold I noticed this option show up when I flashed to bios 0509.

[bapski]

i noticed most of you have more than 500w PSU's.. will my 480trueblue 2 be good enough?

[TechtonicPC]

i noticed most of you have more than 500w PSU's.. will my 480trueblue 2 be good enough?

Should be fine. Now get that hing stabel and run us some benchies!

Oh and yea the basement, how I wish I could do that. It is 105 degrees today here! :(

[bapski]

was about to post my reply earlier but my rig FROZE!

was able to run pcmark04 but am not sure how to get the results though..

am downloading pcmark05 right now.. think this version supports dual core cpu's?


man! surf, should be hot down there. you are in florida remember?

[Ross]

Also since we are on the subject...do any of you have any luck with enabling Hyper Path 3I can't remember if I left mine on Auto or Enabled, but I've used both without any problems. I haven't really checked to see if Enabled/Disabled makes a diff.

bapski-- everything else looks OK for your OC, so I would raise your Vc a couple of notches or put it back to Auto (which will probably be around 1.39-1.40V). Your temps will go up, so keep an eye on them, but that should take care of your crashes. You might also try locking your PCIe Freq.

[bapski]

:eh?: I can't remember if I left mine on Auto or Enabled, but I've used both without any problems. I haven't really checked to see if Enabled/Disabled makes a diff.

bapski-- everything else looks OK for your OC, so I would raise your Vc a couple of notches or put it back to Auto (which will probably be around 1.39-1.40V). Your temps will go up, so keep an eye on them, but that should take care of your crashes. You might also try locking your PCIe Freq.

would i be fine raising the vcore or putting it to auto even if i only have stock HSF? i do have my case open though and im at the basement.

also, how do i publish my PCMARK05 results? how and where do i get/see my score/s? it keeps telling me i have an INVALID registration NUMBER when i chose to publish it online... :rolleyes: dont ask me why coz i guess you guys know why :eh?:

hey ross, i see we have the same vc... what's the numbers (xxxx/xxxx) beside it on your sig. signify?

so for now, will i be stuck with 3.7? can't i go any higher like say when i get my xp-90c?

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edit:

i see that i have a CPU SCORE OF 6060 IS THIS GOOD?
my benchmark got aborted again when one of my msn buddies closed the remote connection we earlier had... am re-starting again.

[bapski]

i crashed again! grrrrr....

how do i lock the pcie frequency?

re-set the vcore to [auto]

however i set the memory voltage to 2.1 which is what is the rating of my memory. am i doing this right? or am i better off setting the memory voltage at [auto]

[Ross]

Auto Vc should be OK. Pressies run hot and dual core even moreso, so just keep an eye on your load temps. Download a program called Throttle Watch to see if the proc is getting too hot and is being throttled back because of it. Short of that, keep it as cool as you can but definitely don't let it go over 60-65C on load. It will probably throttle back before you get there, but I think the thermal limit on the Ds is like 70C. Those are nice case temps and they are helping your air cooling a lot right now. If you can, I'd leave the side of the case open until you get a better cooler :)

You can try bumping Vc just a little bit say to 1.325 or so and see if that clears up the crashes and that won't raise temps as much as Auto.

As for what you'll be stuck at, I dunno. It will mostly be limited to how cool that XP-90 keeps it. I haven't air cooled in years, but if I had or was even thinking about a dual core on air, I probably wouldn't get anything smaller than that XP-120. I'd start considering watercooling real quick with that thing if you want to OC further and I probably wouldn't look at anything smaller than a heater core or 2x120mm rad (with the Swiftech Storm block).

I haven't tried to publish on PCMark05, so I can't say...maybe someone else can help...

The numbers in my sig:
My P4 3.4 LGA775 is a "550" in Intel's numeric system.
Numbers after my vid card are the GPU/mem frequencies I am running.
DDR1017 is the freq of my system mem and the 5-3-3-8 are the timings.

[Ross]

In the Advanced screen, right under Performance Mode. Change the PCI Express Frequency from AUTO to 100. It's your call, but I leave my mem at 2.30V no matter what (BIOS max). There are people with volt mods running way more than that to the Corsairs without any problems.

Generally, if you try decreasing the timings from default or running higher than default freq on them, you'll need to increase the mem voltage and at some point the MCH voltage. If you are running the rate timings on the mem (DDR675 @ 3-3-2-8?) you should be able to set it to 2.10V and leave it...AUTO might be a little low.

[bapski]

i crashed again..

windows says its a device problem..

im re-installing OS.. WILL TRY LONGHORN..

then try to do better driver installs..

dont think i did things well the first time around..

so is 6060 as a CPU score ok.. ?

xp-120? was thinking of getting xp-90c? you think this will be fine?

[bapski]

been having crashes still when i run pcmark.

im thinking its on the OS side, more on driver conflicts rather than OCing.

am running test individually to single out which of the test causes my pc to reboot.

scores.

CPU= 6084
MEMORY=7479

will post other results tomorrow..later i mean its close to 2am and i still have to work at 7am

God.. im killing myself with this and i have you guys to blame..
:bang head

[Ross]

I declocked mine and ran PCMark05. 266FSB (3740MHz) and DDR667 with 5-3-3-8 timings: 4083. I am not really sure how PCMark05 works with the dual core, but I'd expected half the score as you. I know Sandra's dual core scores at the same speed of a single core is almost exactly double for the arithmatic bench.

I also did 300FSB (4205MHz) and DDR1000 @ 5-3-3-8 and got a 4440. I am using the freebie version, so no mem scores.

As for your crashing problem related to drivers, are you running XP now? Do you have any service packs installed? I know when SP2 first came out, my ATI driver just would not work at all....crashed immediately after hitting the desktop. I had to run the default XP driver until ATI updated theirs. If you're running XP64, THAT might be a problem, but SP2 has been around long enough that driver updates from manufacturers should be readily available.

I just don't know about Longhorn (Vista). Damn thing has been in the process for ~3 years already (if not longer) and still doesn't have a scheduled retail release date until 2006. XP has it's issues, but it's pretty stable.

[TechtonicPC]

I would stick XP SP2 if were you. If you are running the first 10 tests, System Suite, in PCMARK04 and you are crashing or not getting a score, then you are not stable. I could run PCMARK04 at my 1.275 voltage all the way up to 270FSB, but I would not get a score. At 260fsb everyhting was golden.

The XP-120 would be a better choice then the XP-90. Getting the most airflow you can to the cpu is importat.

You should be concentrating on getting the thing stable and not worrying so much about pushing further. A rig at 3.7 or 4.0 is worthless if you can't stay in windows.

If you are only at 266fsb, and you up your voltage to 1.30, you should be stable as far as the cpu is concerned. Lock your PCI-E to 100 and then look at your ram. Maybe it is holding you back!

[bapski]

hello guys :bang head

slept late AGAIN last night..i cant seem to have pcmark05 finish benchmarking without the unit rebooting.

hey surf and the others that have the same specs as mine:

pentium d 830
p5wd2

be kind enough to post your BIOS SETTINGS so i can compare it with mine? i know i have a setting or two that does not have the right value.

so guys if you could please?

thanks.. will try to catch a couple of zzzzz's before working on the rig.

thanks again.

[hyperasus]

Bapski try clocking it to 3.6 GHz with 1.25 vcore. See if it’s stable there. If it is then inch it up one click at a time till you can’t get a pcmark04 score. It’s like Surfrat said. If it won’t give you a score then it’s unstable. My CPU is dual prime stable at 4.4 but I can’t get a score in pcmark04 past 4.2 with lots of vcore. I can almost guarantee you will not get much more than 3.6 on your stock cooler. I wouldn’t even try for 4 GHz till you get better cooling. I’d actually be quite surprised if you can even do 3.6 under load with a stock cooler and keep your temps under 65c. Dam things just run hot.

[bapski]

Bapski try clocking it to 3.6 GHz with 1.25 vcore. See if it’s stable there. If it is then inch it up one click at a time till you can’t get a pcmark04 score. It’s like Surfrat said. If it won’t give you a score then it’s unstable. My CPU is dual prime stable at 4.4 but I can’t get a score in pcmark04 past 4.2 with lots of vcore. I can almost guarantee you will not get much more than 3.6 on your stock cooler. I wouldn’t even try for 4 GHz till you get better cooling. I’d actually be quite surprised if you can even do 3.6 under load with a stock cooler and keep your temps under 65c. Dam things just run hot.


thanks hyper... .

but again how do i do 3.6ghz? 1.25 vcore i think i know...

inch what at a time?

sorry.. just brain fart on my part.. thanks

[hyperasus]

Set CPU Frequency to 240(don’t worry about locking your multiplier till you know what your CPU can do).

Set CPU Vcore Voltage to 1.25.
PCI Express Frequency should be set to 100
Performance Mode should be set to Standard and lock your PCI Clock to 33.3.

[Leica]

hyperasus - I am full of envy! 4.2GHz? OMG :)

Which water cooling setup are you using? I am tempted to move over to water cooling...

Thanks.

[3DFlyer]

Guys,
PCMark05 has MANY bugs. Basically I consider PCM05 to be anunusable program until FM gets all these issues fixed. It has nothing to do with stability on some systems. On the rig in my sig PCMark05 will not give a score. it does not crash. One issue is a known issue that is related to RAID arrays, and it's belived to be associated with seciffic the Intel ICH5R controller.

There are other issues of low scores, hangs, crashes, and BSODS. 05 needs ALOT of work before we can use it for comparisons, and should not be trusted to run stability tests. Thye program itself isn't stable.

The rig in my sig is 100% Prime stable, it has passed every single benchmark over and over and in some cases 100's of times. The only program I have had issue with is PCM05. I have the pro version of the program and have been trying to get a fix for these issues for some time. if you are having issue with it, good luck. FM took 2 weeks just to acknowledge a problem existed, and since then it's been like they disapeared from the face of the Earth. I hope we get answers to this soon, but I'm not holding my breath.

[hyperasus]

I have not played around with pcmark05 yet so I can’t comment on that. On the other hand I find pcmark04 to be the most valuable stability test I have. I can usually tell within the first three tests if my overclock is failing. If one of the two green bars gets too much ahead of the other then your computer is having a problem. I know its not real scientific way to do it but it is soooo much faster then trying to prime after every adjustment you make to your overclock. Once you get your overclock as high as you can and still get that pcmark04 score then you can prime95 and do all your other benchies. PCmark04 is just the quickest stability test I know of. If someone knows something better or faster then I'd love to know about it.

[hyperasus]

hyperasus - I am full of envy! 4.2GHz? OMG :)

Which water cooling setup are you using? I am tempted to move over to water cooling...

Thanks.

I am using the swiftech MCP350 pump with a Danger Den TDX waterblock, and a Black ICE III radiator. If you are looking at getting a Pentium D then I would highly recommend watercooling. Save the $50 you will spend on high end air and just jump straight to water. lol

[bapski]

im online again guys.

hyper,

think this current install is much better than the first one i did. no device driver issues!

plus, ive got ai booster working so i may be able to adjust bios settings while am in windows.

will try going down to 3.6 now per your setting advise.

EDIT:

tried 240 but this got me up to only 3.3ghz... trying 250 got me up to 3.6ghz
lowest vcore i can go is 1.26 how come?

will try to run pcmark05 again if i re-boot again. i will try pcmark04

thanks.

[Leica]

hyperasus - Thanks for the water cooling info. How does it compare to a top Heat Pipe based Heat Sink like the Thermal Right XP120? Water leaks scare me :shrug:

[hyperasus]

That is a great heatsink, probably the best available atm. Even with that heatsink and a high flo fan it will not perform anything like water. If water in your computer makes you uneasy then maybe its not for you. There is always a risk of leakage. You could get some non conductive fluid if that sets your mind at eas but even that stuff is not 100% garanteed to not wreck your computer if you get a leak. Best defence is do very careflull leak testing before you turn your computer on. Go to the watercooling section and do some reading. If it still looks too scary then you will just have to live with the lower clock speeds that air can provide.

[Leica]

hyperasus - I guess I will go for water cooling! And it is quiet too isn't? I need to hit 4GHz with my soon to come Pentium D 820 ...

[bapski]

looks 3dflyer is right.. . . ran pcmark05 and again i rebooted.

i ran pcmark04 and i was able to finish the FREE VERSION.

i am running the full version right now and i am crossing my fingers.

one thing i noticed though after lowering it to 260 how come im running at 3.9 now? temps from ai booster are at 42-52

now what have i done wrong? hyper? surf?

same here.. cant bear to think that there is the possibility of water leak. though im setting my thoughts now on water. looking at good kits. see if find anything thatll guarantee zero leaks.

got the xp-p90c heatsink... per oc reviewers its the best so this is what i
got.. some say its better than the 120 thats why i got it.. hope itll do..

LEICA! :bang head :bang head :bang head

DONT GET ME GOING! :bang head :bang head

dont let me get WATER TOO PLEASE... ive already spent so much.. grrrr...hope i dont get convinced...

[TC]

Thought I would chime in here with my 820 experience. I'm on water cooling with a swiftech single 120 kit. I can't believe you guys are getting that high on 1.2 volts - good chips. My 820 runs 1.35 on auto, and it won't hit more than 3.5 on that. 3.8 requires 1.4 volts. For a while I was frustrated because PCmark05 was giving me really low scores unless I was running 200, 250, or 300 fsb. Anything else and the hard drive scores were horrible. I was thinking it was the mobo, but other programs such as HDtach and sandra gave the hdd a good score. Looks to me like PCmark05 indeed has issues, so I'm going to dump it. I've also been using pat and hyperpath 3, so I think I'll disable both and see if I can push it a wee bit further.

[bapski]

now im confused. can anyone explain the numbers that i got?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/oc/benchmarkx.jpg

as you can see the conflicting speeds on cpu-z and ai booster? which one is right?

on ai booster, my temps would range from 40-50


i would be close to confirming that pcmark05 does have some issues. ran pcmark04 with no problems except that it did not give any score on my CPU and HDD probably because it is not able to detect dual-core? or my SATA converted PATA drives?

please enough of the WATER? please? how else would i explain a 150-200 expense?

[hyperasus]

Ok on the AI Booster, That is called speedstep. When your computer is idol it will bump the speed down to keep idol temps and power consumption down. If you locking your multiplier to 14 then I have noticed some programs dont recognize that and show your cpu faster then it really is. Pcmark04 and memtest are both that way. I see you are running every test pcmark04 has. I generally just run the 10 tests under System Test Suite so I can get the score. If it doesn’t give you a score then keep backing off till it does.

[bapski]

Ok on the AI Booster, That is called speedstep. When your computer is idol it will bump the speed down to keep idol temps and power consumption down. If you locking your multiplier to 14 then I have noticed some programs dont recognize that and show your cpu faster then it really is. Pcmark04 and memtest are both that way. I see you are running every test pcmark04 has. I generally just run the 10 tests under System Test Suite so I can get the score. If it doesn’t give you a score then keep backing off till it does.

keep backing off?


so are my test results ok then?

am running prime95 now.. and let it run overnight and hopefully i see some result in the morning.

[hyperasus]

If your temps are within reason you can increase the vcore to help stubility. If temps are already at max then you may have no choice but to back off a little.

[3DFlyer]

I have not played around with pcmark05 yet so I can’t comment on that. On the other hand I find pcmark04 to be the most valuable stability test I have. I can usually tell within the first three tests if my overclock is failing. If one of the two green bars gets too much ahead of the other then your computer is having a problem. I know its not real scientific way to do it but it is soooo much faster then trying to prime after every adjustment you make to your overclock. Once you get your overclock as high as you can and still get that pcmark04 score then you can prime95 and do all your other benchies. PCmark04 is just the quickest stability test I know of. If someone knows something better or faster then I'd love to know about it.

PCMark04 is a very good program! In fact, it's probably the best measure of PC performance there is available.

I just wanted to make sure somebody didn't try to test with 05 and start changing their systems because of it. 05 is awful right now. I really hope they get it fixed. It seems like it's very stressful, but the HDD tests are riddled with bugs, and some have reported memory bugs also. Not good for a system benchmark.

If your using 04 that prgram should work great unless there is a software conflict or the harware isn't stable. I haven't seen a single issue with 04.

[bapski]

PCMark04 is a very good program! In fact, it's probably the best measure of PC performance there is available.

I just wanted to make sure somebody didn't try to test with 05 and start changing their systems because of it. 05 is awful right now. I really hope they get it fixed. It seems like it's very stressful, but the HDD tests are riddled with bugs, and some have reported memory bugs also. Not good for a system benchmark.

If your using 04 that prgram should work great unless there is a software conflict or the harware isn't stable. I haven't seen a single issue with 04.

how come it has not given any score on my HDD AND CPU THOUGH?

edit:
its 6:20 am and my rig is still running prime95. so i guess is a good thing. right? how long will this test last though?

[hyperasus]

What are your temps while running prime95?

[Leica]

bapski - The cost of water cooling isn't much. It seems $150 will buy a nice setup. A good HS&F will cost $50 anyway.

So it is only $100 more.

BUT what scares me is:-

1) The work involved in mounting all the stuff. Hard and challenging it seems to me at least.

2) The danger of water leaking and/or fire. Not to mention the loss of data. RAID is useless protection against fried hard drives.

3) The regular maintance of checking the fluid levels, etc.

So it is worth it? I don't think so. But then when guys like hyperasus are running at 4.2GHz it is bloody tempting!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hyperasus]

It’s really not as complex as it first seems. I have watercooled rigs that I haven't touched in over 2 years other then to blow out the case and rad with canned air every now and then. Now there is new non conductive fluids available for reasonable prices which claim can be left alone for 5+ years even in a system containing copper and aluminum. Only time you will ever have to do any maintenance is to blow out the dust and your occasional upgrades such as graphics card.

[bapski]

It’s really not as complex as it first seems. I have watercooled rigs that I haven't touched in over 2 years other then to blow out the case and rad with canned air every now and then. Now there is new non conductive fluids available for reasonable prices which claim can be left alone for 5+ years even in a system containing copper and aluminum. Only time you will ever have to do any maintenance is to blow out the dust and your occasional upgrades such as graphics card.


i said it stop it with the WATER issue... :bang head now if i can only figure out what to do with the xc-p90c and UFO#2 that i bought. any takers?

my temps probably ranged between 42 to 52.

edit::
ok guys im back. i hope you havent had enough of me yet.

i did a lot of pondering over this new OC HOBBY at work. (yes, at work so hope you guys will not tell on me to the boss :) )

i read this overclocking guide by ssprncvegeta on this forum and from it, as i understood it, this is basically what my system is setup for. (please correct me aggresively if i am wrong.)

FROM WHAT I HAVE I SHOULD BE HAVING THESE NUMBERS:

Pentium D 830 with an 800Mhz FSB = 200mhz of real fsb speed?
corsair twin2x1024a-5400ul with a 675mhz FSB = 337.5 rated speed?
[with default latency of 3.3.2.8]

so with these settings in mind, can i safely say that i would safe to run at

200 X 14 = 2.8ghz then? if so, wouldnt this be not overclocking as my cpu is supposed to be rated at 3.0ghz?

=====

but then again as i have not used the above settings yet and i dont think i will, i have some questions about my board, the P5WD2.

*it says on the manual that the board has a native support for ddr2-800.what does this mean? does this mean that i can use 400mhz safely for a dram frequency even if my memory is only rated at 337.5(675mhz)?

*also it says on the manual that the board has support? for FSB's 1066/800/533 mhz respectively. so would it be safe for me to say that i can either use 266.5/200/133.2 (who would use such?) as effective dram frequencies?

so with this, does this mean that i can safely put my cpu frequency setting to 266.5(based on a 1066 FSB)?

HENCE 266.5 X 14 = AN EFFECTIVE AND SAFE 3.7 GHZ SPEED? this of course putting in mind that i factor in the effective vcore setting. and talking of which, have you guys noticed how when you change any of the voltage settings on the BIOS the colors would change? like it would change from red, yellow, purple and blue? i take that a red colored setting would mean the setting is unacceptable and blue is an accepted setting. is this so? so what would the purple and yellow colored settings mean?

im asking these questions assuming that ITS A MUST TO GET RID OF THE STOCK HSF. and also just to verify if what i've read are correct or i am just getting more confused? am i? surf, hyper? now back to work for me.

:)




just got home and am happy to say prime95 is still running.. hurray!! but will test ever end?

will come back later..

[bapski]

guys just walked in a micro center and saw some water cooling kits.

if you were to chose the best one for a pentium d, p5wd2 which one would ou prefer?

1. coolermaster AQUAGATE R120

2. bigwater se by THERMALTAKE?

3. or anything you guys think is BETTER or better yet the BEST in water cooling.

ive read that its not wise to go for kits.. . .


grrr.. and what do i do with my air cooling stuff that i have ordered already?

[bapski]

:bang head finally got a SYSTEM SCORE WITH PCMARK05

TWAS AT at 3048

finally figured out what was wrong!

EDIT:
PCMARK05 SCORE FOR ALL THE TESTS NOT INCLUDING CUSTOM TESTS WAS AT 672! :bang head

[Ross]

This is probably the best plug-n-play WC system out right now (http://www.swiftnets.com/products/H20-APEX.asp). It's brand new and has a 2x120mm rad and the Storm block. The Storm block is Cathar's design and is probably THE best block design out there.

I really don't think any of the smaller systems you listed (1x120mm rad) are going to do that dual core justice. Most of them are hardly any better than really good aircooling, but will be more quiet.

If I was looking at anything that small, it would be the Corsair COOL (http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/COOL_water.html). You get an awesome pump ("Swiftech" MCP-350), very good all-copper "Swiftech" CPU block and a BlackIce Pro radiator. I have (and/or had) used any and all of the pieces in that kit at sometime or another and they all work great. I still think the rad may be too small, but all the pieces are top notch.

For the extra ~$70 retail, I'd probably opt for the Swifty setup with the better Storm block, the larger 2x120mm rad and the higher capacity pump.

What was the problem with completing the benches that you fixed?

[ozziegn]

bapski - The cost of water cooling isn't much. It seems $150 will buy a nice setup. A good HS&F will cost $50 anyway.

..........................

So it is worth it?

hell no.

just take a look at my benchmark #s and see why I say that. my system runs rock solid on nothing but air cooling and as you can see from my numbers below, its not that shabby of a system. ;)

3DMark 2005 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1068517)

PCMark 2005 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=51828)

[hyperasus]

hell no.

just take a look at my benchmark #s and see why I say that. my system runs rock solid on nothing but air cooling and as you can see from my numbers below, its not that shabby of a system. ;)

3DMark 2005 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1068517)

PCMark 2005 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=51828)

You have a single core. Pentium D requires much better cooling to get the high overclocks. If the best you could do was 3.7Ghz on air would you still say hell no?

[Ross]

hell no.If it were constantly 60F in my house, I might run just air too, but I doubt it. My 550 did 4.2 on the stock HSF and ~77F ambient and load temps were in the mid-60s C. It does barely any higher on water and only 4.37 on a pelt (-14C) so the proc was just near its limit anyway, but it runs cooler on water than air and requires much less voltage making it more efficient (scores still went up at the same clocks) and more likely to live longer.

1) The 6xx's are good OCers...yours maybe insanely so.
2) The 6xx's run cooler than the 5xx's and MUCH cooler than 8xx's.
3) Your $550 video card is helping your PCMark score a LOT. You totally annihilate my x700 Pro in every vid related test.

What's the S-Spec # on your proc...I need one of those :)

[bapski]

This is probably the best plug-n-play WC system out right now (http://www.swiftnets.com/products/H20-APEX.asp). It's brand new and has a 2x120mm rad and the Storm block. The Storm block is Cathar's design and is probably THE best block design out there.

I really don't think any of the smaller systems you listed (1x120mm rad) are going to do that dual core justice. Most of them are hardly any better than really good aircooling, but will be more quiet.

If I was looking at anything that small, it would be the Corsair COOL (http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/COOL_water.html). You get an awesome pump ("Swiftech" MCP-350), very good all-copper "Swiftech" CPU block and a BlackIce Pro radiator. I have (and/or had) used any and all of the pieces in that kit at sometime or another and they all work great. I still think the rad may be too small, but all the pieces are top notch.

For the extra ~$70 retail, I'd probably opt for the Swifty setup with the better Storm block, the larger 2x120mm rad and the higher capacity pump.

What was the problem with completing the benches that you fixed?

i was ignoring the pcmark05 prompts that i needed to have WINDOWS ENCODER AND MEDIA 9 INSTALLED.

i installed windows encoding and upgraded windows media from 9 to 10

[bapski]

just got my psu back from sleeving. only addes an extra HD which is now up to 3 but i seem to notice that my temp ranges are a lot higher! saw it at 63 one time!

was 255 with vcore set at 1.3

also only different thing i did from my previous setup was that i have my case upright now unlike previously where it was lying on its side. would this be an issue. thanks guys..

[hyperasus]

What about ambient temps?

[cripy]

I have acheived the 2nd highest score on pcmark05 with 8818 with my Dual Core @ 3.8ghz on water, I can get it higher and will later this week and tell you the results.

[bapski]

I have acheived the 2nd highest score on pcmark05 with 8818 with my Dual Core @ 3.8ghz on water, I can get it higher and will later this week and tell you the results.


GOOD FOR You!

am still waiting for my WC SETUP BUT HERE IS WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW.

FINALLY got my air up and am running at 270 with vcore at 1.2875.

idle temp is at 47 AND 50-55 ON LOAD.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/oc/270_vcore_1_2875.jpg

can i still pusth this baby up?

ive had no problems running pcmark04 and pcmark05 before but now i get a NON-RESPONDING error whenever it reaches the last stages of the bench testing. the kind of error where it asks if I WANT TO SEND ERROR REPORT and not the BLUE SCREEN.

am on a xp-90c with a TT UFO#2 FAN.

[BigStan]

I have acheived the 2nd highest score on pcmark05 with 8818 with my Dual Core @ 3.8ghz on water, I can get it higher and will later this week and tell you the results.
Did you have to do anything to get PCMark05 to run right. I keep getting a score like "810". I know that's not right.

[hyperasus]

Did you have to do anything to get PCMark05 to run right. I keep getting a score like "810". I know that's not right.

Same here.

[BigStan]

I ran across this on another forum. Add this switch ~ /usepmtimer ~ in you boot.ini file. Right after /fastdetect. The reboot. Worked for me.

[bapski]

here's what i got:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/oc/275_vcore1_3250.jpg

[Ross]

Is that 45C at idle? Really not as bad as I was expecting for a dually at that clock on that mobo with air. My 550 idles at 39-40C on this board with 4.2GHz (300FSB) and 1.48Vc and can hit 48-49C under load. FYI, these temps are about 9-10C higher than the reading for the same proc/clock/cooling in my old P5AD2-E.

What are you ambient temps bapski? What about load temps?

[bapski]

Is that 45C at idle? Really not as bad as I was expecting for a dually at that clock on that mobo with air. My 550 idles at 39-40C on this board with 4.2GHz (300FSB) and 1.48Vc and can hit 48-49C under load. FYI, these temps are about 9-10C higher than the reading for the same proc/clock/cooling in my old P5AD2-E.

What are you ambient temps bapski? What about load temps?

hello ross.. think you are one the main reasons that got me started OC'ING.. so expect a bill from me once i mess my system up :p

yup 45c is idle and am averaging 60 on load. ambient? would that mean case temp? mb temp? or my sorrounding temp?

mb temp is at 29c

would really appreciate tips from you. thanks.

[Ross]

Hahaha...take a check? I think I have a bunch laying around from old closed accounts :)

Yeah, ambient is generally room temp, but I get the idea from your MB temps (assume that's open case). That thing gets up there on load, but still not as bad as I though it would. I figured you'd be at 65C+ easy on air. You may be bordering on thermal throttling...I think it starts around 60-65C somewhere, but maybe the level is higher for the duallies.

I don't know how much more help I can be...you're further along on air than I thought you'd get. Now if you had watercooling, the temps would drop and you could go further, but unless you can keep those load temps from going any higher (cooler ambient or better cooling), I think you may be as high as you are going to get on air.

I am pretty impressed with that though. Is it completing benches OK at that OC?

[bapski]

Hahaha...take a check? I think I have a bunch laying around from old closed accounts :)

Yeah, ambient is generally room temp, but I get the idea from your MB temps (assume that's open case). That thing gets up there on load, but still not as bad as I though it would. I figured you'd be at 65C+ easy on air. You may be bordering on thermal throttling...I think it starts around 60-65C somewhere, but maybe the level is higher for the duallies.

I don't know how much more help I can be...you're further along on air than I thought you'd get. Now if you had watercooling, the temps would drop and you could go further, but unless you can keep those load temps from going any higher (cooler ambient or better cooling), I think you may be as high as you are going to get on air.

I am pretty impressed with that though. Is it completing benches OK at that OC?

so far, i am only doing system test on pcmark04. tried increasing fsb's, earlier but did not get any scores so i accordingly increased vcores with still the same result.

now that im trying to go back to where i was, 275@1.3250, i still am not getting any score! maybe i should be adjusting settings from the bios and not in ai?

[3DFlyer]

Chilled Water would be so nice on one of these. Phase would be the ultimate, but I'd really like to see some chilled water results of a victory run of something PCMark04 or 3DMark05.

I'm watching this new technology very closely. I'm kinda waiting for the HT Dual Cores to make an appearance. I'm hoping for that 4MB cache. When the Yonah's come out I'm going to buy one, but until then I wanna keep up with how these things perform and what their trends are. :)

[RMT99e]

Good Good Good. Seems to be working well so far. good temps. i hope to see similar results when i start OCing :D

[bapski]

noticed a spike on my idle temp from an ave. of 45-49c to 52-55c. i attribute this mainly to my putting back the side panels on my rig.



also noticed that my rig has been rebooting while FOLDING. this i assume because before i left this morning for work, my wu was supposed to have been done by 12pm. now when i check seems to me the wu is just starting.

im at 265 fsb @ 1.26 vcore; oc'd my ram at 354 with timings of 4.4.4.8 (will try if i can have this lowered some more.)

my scores:

pcmark05 - 4962
pcmark04 - 7120
3dmark05 - 3083
aquamark - gfx 6,294
cpu 11,295
overall score: 49,221

sisandra
arithmetic - fpu 5290, alu 19795

everest
read - 7347
write - 2515

despite this adjustment from 275-265 i noticed a very slight if not neglible difference in my previous scores.

[bapski]

ran memtest for over 24hours with no errors.. guess im memtest stable.. next stop will be prime95.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/bigboygelo/DSC03089.jpg

[Prodromo]

Wow! Congradulations on that wonderful cpu.