View Full Version : Tualatins In Database
Darryl Bleau
10-12-01, 06:38 PM
I bought a couple of those nifty new pIII's with the Tualatin cores and I got some cool overclocking results on them.. but I can't post because there isn't an option for the new pIII's in the database!
Can someone add one please so I can feel all better about myself by making a few posts? :)
DeepScience
10-13-01, 05:48 AM
In the meantime, why don't you post your results here?
JaY_III
10-13-01, 11:11 AM
Well the data base is handled by skip... along with the forums... and the rest of OC.com
so if you need something added you will want to talk to him.
hewre is a link to his profile, this should give you all the info you need
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=1
6502kid
10-15-01, 02:26 AM
Boink
Maybe shoot Skip a PM and suggest he add it when he gets a chance. Remember this is not his full time job - he volunteers all the work here. Give him some time.
Welcome to the forums! In the meantime, I would really be interested in seeing your results!!
Stealth
10-15-01, 11:36 PM
Can we see some benchmarks, I have thought about getting one verr soon, tualatin or amd 1400 I can't decide.
Originally posted by Stealth
Can we see some benchmarks, I have thought about getting one verr soon, tualatin or amd 1400 I can't decide.
Here ya go :) This is the 1.26GHz S version with 512K L2 cache:
http://www.ocsetiteam.com/ftp/1583.jpg
http://www.ocsetiteam.com/ftp/ssCpu1583.jpg
tc the pictures didnt work. nevermind. works now.
Hmm something happened to the bottom picture - lemme check on that.... Wow this is weird - does everybody else see a green bar crossing out part of the sisoft image? It's fine on my machine here, but seems to be corrupted when I upload it. Tried deleting and reloading it three times.
Odd - making it slightly smaller seems to have fixed it.
http://www.ocsetiteam.com/ftp/resized.jpg
Stealth
10-16-01, 01:09 AM
Think i'll have to get one of them, I have a VH6-II, I heard that a BIOS update might support the new tulatins, on the otherhand I have herd that a new mobo will be needed, anyone know for sure. think it has somthing to do with voltage an I/O.
Stealth
10-16-01, 01:13 AM
X that last statment, just looked @ the price on the 512k, I think I will wait and see what the northwood will do first.LOL
Originally posted by Stealth
Think i'll have to get one of them, I have a VH6-II, I heard that a BIOS update might support the new tulatins, on the otherhand I have herd that a new mobo will be needed, anyone know for sure. think it has somthing to do with voltage an I/O.
If it has the 815EP chipset I think you're good to go, might need a bios update. If it's not the 815EP (EP being the important thing to note) it won't work - period, might even kill the chip. Although the tualatins use socket 370, some of the pins have been assigned different purposes, plus it uses some other different features that older chipsets don't support. If the VH6-II does use the 815EP chipset, make sure the current bios will recognize the chip - if it doesn't it might use the wrong voltage and fry the chip. I know with the tusl2C that I'm using the bios doesn't recognize the large cache version and applies 1.7 volts default, versus the 1.45 it's supposed to use. So far no problems, but I've got good cooling and fingers crossed.
In edit - Via also has a chipset that supports the tualatin, it's a revised version with a T added to the end. I forget the rest of the designation, but there are some via based boards out there also.
tc the chip looks awesome. i dont want to start a big debate but i'm curious about how it runs compared to your other chips.
Originally posted by Stealth
X that last statment, just looked @ the price on the 512k, I think I will wait and see what the northwood will do first.LOL
Not a bad idea. This chip clocked at 1583 seems to be about the same as a 2GHz willy - so the northwood will beat it, at a price of course. I'd show you some benchmarks but that would jeopardize my NDA.
Originally posted by Ebola
tc the chip looks awesome. i dont want to start a big debate but i'm curious about how it runs compared to your other chips.
Well as I said it's about as fast as a 2GHz willy. I just got some Athlon XP's in, and I have not run a full set of benchmarks, but if you want to take Seti for a benchmark, the P3S at 1583 is about the same as a 1.33 XP overclocked to 1600. We're just talking rough estimates here - not exhaustive comparisons. I think the extra cache gives it the edge to be more or less as good as the Palomino core - give or take some obviously. I think Intel could squeeze up to 1.7GHz out of this chip, but doubt we'll ever see a desktop version of that. Mostly shows what's likely to come in laptops and the celeron.
Stealth
10-16-01, 05:22 AM
when can wee see some benches on the northwood's? I can't wait!! I nedd an upgrade.hehehe
Originally posted by Stealth
Think i'll have to get one of them, I have a VH6-II, I heard that a BIOS update might support the new tulatins, on the otherhand I have herd that a new mobo will be needed, anyone know for sure. think it has somthing to do with voltage an I/O.
Powerleap has already come out with a tualatin slot adapter and they say they are working on a socket adapter presently to allow even old BX boards like the BP6 to work with tualatin
-----------FROM POWERLEAP FORUM----------
I'm using the Abit-BH6 and the PL-iP3/T (w/1.13GHz Tualatin P-III CPU) NOW to post this message, so it's not a vapourware.
http://www.powerleap.com/Products/iP3T.htm
We love so much about the Tualatin Core based Celeron (1.2GHz and up), thanks to AMD's powerful new Morgan-core based Duron, Intel's added the L2-Cache to 256KB and keeps the price quite affordable. It's kind of irresistable not to design a Socket-370 based upgrade adapter (advanced Neo). Please stay tuned.
Cheers,
Paul at Powerleap
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btw Paul is forum moderator
Stealth
10-17-01, 11:29 PM
Thats great if you have a slot, I have a socket 370(Abit VH6-II what are the odds on an adapter for a 370 to a 370-T
Originally posted by Stealth
when can wee see some benches on the northwood's? I can't wait!! I nedd an upgrade.hehehe
Sorry - wait until Intel launches it. I won't violate the NDA anymore.
Originally posted by Stealth
Thats great if you have a slot, I have a socket 370(Abit VH6-II what are the odds on an adapter for a 370 to a 370-T
They said they are working on a socket adapter compatible with even some BX boards.
DeepScience
10-18-01, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by deez
Powerleap has already come out with a tualatin slot adapter and they say they are working on a socket adapter presently to allow even old BX boards like the BP6 to work with tualatin
-----------FROM POWERLEAP FORUM----------
I'm using the Abit-BH6 and the PL-iP3/T (w/1.13GHz Tualatin P-III CPU) NOW to post this message, so it's not a vapourware.
http://www.powerleap.com/Products/iP3T.htm
We love so much about the Tualatin Core based Celeron (1.2GHz and up), thanks to AMD's powerful new Morgan-core based Duron, Intel's added the L2-Cache to 256KB and keeps the price quite affordable. It's kind of irresistable not to design a Socket-370 based upgrade adapter (advanced Neo). Please stay tuned.
Cheers,
Paul at Powerleap
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btw Paul is forum moderator
My BH6 only has the 1/3 divisor at 133FSB. I wonder if that means Paul is overclocking his whole machine to run the 1.13GHz processor. I think it uses 133FSB...?
Mictlan
10-18-01, 04:28 PM
Hey TC, that are a nice SiSoft results there :).
Are those results from the chip you bought the other day? Or you find new ones?
Can hardly wait to get my new mobo (Iwill DVD266u) with the VIA Apollo Pro266T Chipset.
If you want to run a Tualatin you'll need to use the 815EP B stepping, Apollo Pro133T or Apollo Pro266T chipsets. Or wait for the Powerleap adapter.:D
Originally posted by Mictlan
Hey TC, that are a nice SiSoft results there :).
Are those results from the chip you bought the other day? Or you find new ones?
Can hardly wait to get my new mobo (Iwill DVD266u) with the VIA Apollo Pro266T Chipset.
If you want to run a Tualatin you'll need to use the 815EP B stepping, Apollo Pro133T or Apollo Pro266T chipsets. Or wait for the Powerleap adapter.:D
These are the ones I got awhile ago.
Mictlan
10-18-01, 06:37 PM
Are yu cooling them with the stock HSF? With aircooling? Or with watercooling?
Originally posted by DeepScience
My BH6 only has the 1/3 divisor at 133FSB. I wonder if that means Paul is overclocking his whole machine to run the 1.13GHz processor. I think it uses 133FSB...?
Will ask Paul and see if I get a response...although their forum is kinda slow. I drop in every once and a while as i'm currently using their neo s370 on my bp6
Originally posted by Mictlan
Are yu cooling them with the stock HSF? With aircooling? Or with watercooling?
Alpha PAL 6035's with delta 38 fans. They run about 97F under full load. - 1.7 core voltage.
Mictlan
10-19-01, 09:45 AM
Haven't you tried with watercooling? Or with a Peltier? With the low heat they generate a small pelt can eaisly be putted over a Tualatin.
I did the following to my PIII850E. I used a 52 W peltier with a coolermaster copper heatsink (50mm square) with a Topmotor 50*50*25 mm fan and are achieving around 34-38°C when crunching SETI, and when the other day SETI stopped while I wasn't tending my computer, the temperatures when just to around 22°C.....so if you really don't want to be overcooling your CPU you could easily use one of this small peltiers.
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