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Arkamedies
10-14-01, 07:53 AM
Okay folks, this may get long, I am not sure yet... I have so much romping through my mind right now that I can't even sleep... there goes another 30-some hour day! Damn I hate that... Anyways... here we go.

After looking over the VapoChill and Koolance and several other HIGH end coolinf cases, I have decided that these folks just do not, and I mean do not with a passion, like to deal with real world folks. They make their cases, they say "We can get you to -5 deg F." So ya look into it figuring they are ready to roll with real life people... nope.

The problem I run into is that.. well okay, there are several problems...

1. The hose is only designed for a medium sized case, and that is only if you don't have an od motherboard with the connector low instead of at the top.

Their answer: We are looking to the need for longer hoses, but we did not say our product worked for all systems.

2. They are NOT going to make a system for duel CPUs.

answer from them: There is not enough market for it. We are focussing on the overclocking crowd for now.

3. Their systems cost $450.00 and up JUST for the cooling system.. that is with no case or ANYTHING! LOL

answer from them: We have no problem with people just ordering the cooling system, but you may need to send it and your system to us to install it.

Here is why I want the refridgerator compressor style actual cooling system:
1. The temp on a Intel 1.3 gig chip, overclocked to 1.888 stayed at -5 F under load for 24 hours.... impressive

2. The compressors are quieter than normal fans by almost half.
Meaning 48 d instead of 75 to 80 d.

3. I would rather have a sealed compressor system than a water system that may spring a leak from a joint.

4. Did I mention -5 F?

Okay all you Engineering/Rocket Science/Phreaks/Techno-galactic-SuperClockers! Has anyone got even the slightest clue of how to make a compressor feed two (2) lines out and two (2) back in?

This is what I figure, and PLEASE correct me if I am wrong.

If I put a "Y" splitter at the outflow joint that feeds to the CPU's, and another on the intake to the canister that turns the vapor back into liquid before it goes back into the compressor, would that not work?

Again, I am sorry for the long letter, but if anyplace can help me... OC can!!! Thanks!!!:D

Arkamedies
10-14-01, 08:19 AM
See if this works... This is more or less what I am trying for. So far I can't see why it would not work. Any Hints?

The Overclocker
10-14-01, 09:51 AM
i think it would be a good idea to find a detailed review of their case and rip off every idea you see

hdfxst
10-14-01, 10:06 AM
you can use 1 compressor and condenser to feed 2 evaporaters(blocks on the cpus) but each evaporater will need its own orafice tube(what turns the freon from a gas to liquid).you could also hook up a low pressure cut out switch like they use on car ac so the compresser wont turn on if the freon level is low,but run it with a relay to shut your computer off if you have a leak

train22
10-14-01, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Arkamedies
2. The compressors are quieter than normal fans by almost half.
Meaning 48 d instead of 75 to 80 d.


Umm, no... The loudest an aircooled system will get is around 60 and that's really max, you don't understand that dB-A is a logarithmic function not a linear one so that 40 vs 60 is a BIG diff,, 80 on the other hand is when you'll need ear protection.

So "half the noise" could be around 5-10 dB-A in this situation.

VashTheStampede
10-14-01, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by hdfxst
like they use on car ac so the compresser wont turn on if the freon level is low,but run it with a relay to shut your computer off if you have a leak

Speaking of, would an A/C condenser from a car work just as well as this mini-fridge condensers people are using? I was handed one the other day in the shop, and told to take it back to parts, but I didn't get to look at it much though.

~RT~

mEKbOY
10-14-01, 11:49 AM
I own a vapochill... its pretty complex but i have seen a few people build there own. Dual's will be tough and you will need a very powerful compressor to do so. I think danfoss makes a super high end model that may be able to do it. It will takes lots of planning and work to pull it off but i think you cant. Check out forumoc.com .... there is about 2 people there that have made there own type of fridge cooling with a compressor....etc

Arkamedies
10-14-01, 05:36 PM
i think it would be a good idea to find a detailed review of their case and rip off every idea you see

Well, quick thinking, but I don't think my conscience would allow me to do it.

you could also hook up a low pressure cut out switch like they use on car ac so the compresser wont turn on if the freon level is low,but run it with a relay to shut your computer off if you have a leak

Would running MBM not take care of the shut off for me? And can you shorten the time (10 seconds) that MBM gives before shutting down the system?

you don't understand that dB-A is a logarithmic function not a linear one so that 40 vs 60 is a BIG diff

Actually I should have been thinking harder... I just got finished (2 weeks ago) with my hearing test and the 20 questions you have to answer before taking it.... This is one of the items covered in it! LOL Thanks for the reminder.

Speaking of, would an A/C condenser from a car work just as well as this mini-fridge condensers people are using?

I am not sure on that one at all.

I think danfoss makes a super high end model that may be able to do it

I will check it out, Thank you.

Thanks for the help all. Have a great day!