Anyone know how to overclock a P4 1.7ghz with Abit TH7-Raid Motherboard?

[Sir MMPD]

Hi,

I am new to overclocking and I was just curious is it possible to overclock a P4 1.7 ghz with Abit Th7-Raid motherboard?

Thank you,
Sir MMPD
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System Specs

Intel Pentium 4 1.7 GHZ
Motherboard: Abit TH7-Raid
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Platinum 5.1
Video Card: Visiontek-Geforce 3
Modem: US Robotics Performance Pro
Network Card: Linksys
DVD: Creative
CD RW: Creative
Hard Drive: Western Digital 60 GB
Ram: 512 MB of RD Ram

[Stealth]

dont know about the p4 boards but the p3 boards you can enter the bios (hold del @ startup) and you will find softmenu 3 (for the p3 p4 ?) or somthing like that, in thear change cpu freq to user and adjust the frount side bus (FSB) a little at a time. If I am correct all p4's default FSB is 100mhz quad-pumped(400) try 105 this wil give you 1785, most of the 1.7's I have seen can go to around 2ghz-2.2ghz, you might want to look @ the beginer's guides on the main page, you will find everything you need to know and then some, after that if your still haveing problems return here and someone will usually help you. PS verry important to watch temps 30c is good never over 45c full load preferibly under 40c full load. Make sure the rest of your components are good quality (a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link). Hope this was helpfull.

[engjohn]

Good post stealth,

Check the FAQ's, and get a good HSF. Heat is your enemy. When you have more questions, ask and we will answer...

[TC]

Yes you can definitely overclock with that board - got one myself. As has been suggested you want a high quality heatsink before you try to overclock very much - a small overclock is okay, but for extreme overclocking don't use the factory heatsink.

Anyway you want to hit del right as the system is first turned on, or you can hold down the insert key before you hit the power button, and keep holding it while the system is first starting up - it will take you into the bios. Abit uses "Soft menu" for overclocking. Your multiplier is locked at 17 - don't worry too much about what the means, just understand that when you start raising the front side bus - called the cpu frequency in soft menu, your cpu will be running at 17 times whatever number you select. At default you're set to 17X100 = 1700MHz or 1.7GHz. So if you wanted to go to 1.8GHz - which would be pretty easy for a stock heatsink - just use the manual settings to raise the frequency to 106. If memory serves me correctly I think the Abit board will let you select the front side bus, or choose from a list of cpu speeds. Either way will work. Hope this helps. Oh and don't play with the core voltage until you study up more and overclocking.

[Sir MMPD]

Thanks for the help all :),
I will try messing with the sets in my bios see what happens.
just curious tho,
I have looked for the beginners guide and I cannot seem
to find it on the main part.. must be looking in wrong spot...
anyone have the addy?

Thanks,
Sir MMPD

[Stealth]

on the main page click tips & techniques you will see a list of 30 or so different thing in the center of the page, in the upper right corner of the list you will see beginner guides,click and read.

[Sir MMPD]

k thanks

[trey_w]

These are my first set of benchmarks from Sisoft Sandra on my new P4 1.7 w\ Abit TH7 RAID Mobo

The FSB is overclocked at 115
As i can tell, no one else has got it past 112?

if i overclock the FSB past 115, then i can boot but won't enter windows

it says i have a file missing?

it is windows XP (Corporate)

Anyways, i need to know what the best kind of RDRAM would be for overclocking(quality)

i am fixing to use the new Koolance Water cool system, but it does me no good if i can't get past FSB of 115

Heat is not an issue yet, so theoretically i should be able to go to about 118 to 120 on the FSB before heating issues arise according to my temps now.

i am using OEM Fan and Heatsink
my voltage is @ 1.85v in the bios but does not recognize that high in my health staus or Sisoft Sandra, both places are reading the same

Fluctuation between 1.74-1.79

can i get more voltage?

i need all the help i can get, im fairly knowledgeable in computers in general but new to overclocking

thanks

here are some benchmarks:





Processor
Processor(s) Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1700MHz @ 1.96GHz
Performance Rating PR2346 (estimated)
L2 On-board Cache 256kB ECC synchronous ATC

Memory Modules
Memory Module 1 Samsung 256MB/16 (144Mx18) ECC RDRAM RIMM PC800 (CL2-2 upto 411MHz)
Memory Module 2 Samsung 256MB/16 (144Mx18) ECC RDRAM RIMM PC800 (CL2-2 upto 411MHz)

Memory Bus Speed 460MHz


Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature 30.0°C / 86.0°F
CPU Temperature 37.5°C / 99.5°F td

Benchmark Results
Current Memory System Int ALU/RAM Bandwidth 1690 MB/s
Current Memory System Float FPU/RAM Bandwidth 1761 MB/s

Intel 850 PC800 CL2 RDRAM (P4) Int ALU/RAM Bandwidth 1374 MB/s
Intel 850 PC800 CL2 RDRAM (P4) Float FPU/RAM Bandwidth 1400 MB/s
Intel 850 PC600 CL2 RDRAM (P4) Int ALU/RAM Bandwidth 1030 MB/s
Intel 850 PC600 CL2 RDRAM (P4) Float FPU/RAM Bandwidth 1050 MB/s

Benchmark Results
Current CPU Dhrystone ALU 3585 MIPS
Current CPU Whetstone FPU/SSE2 1018/2403 MFLOPS

Intel Pentium 4 1.6GHz Dhrystone ALU 3065 MIPS
Intel Pentium 4 1.6GHz Whetstone FPU/SSE2 833/1955 MFLOPS

AMD Athlon 1.2GHz Dhrystone ALU 3366 MIPS
AMD Athlon 1.2GHz Whetstone FPU 1650 MFLOPS

Intel Pentium 4 1.2GHz Dhrystone ALU 2300 MIPS
Intel Pentium 4 1.2GHz Whetstone FPU/SSE2 625/1466 MFLOPS

[Stealth]

file missing errors are usually related to your hard drive, 115 fsb is good for ram but bad for HDD and other things, can you chang your devider to 1/4 that will solve the HDD problem, I thiunk 124 is whear you will hit 1/4 devide instead of 1/3 running you way out of spec.

[trey_w]

thanks for the info

i don't know where in the bios i can set the pci and agp buses

does anyone?

also, i am running a cheap PSP, 300 Watt untill my Koolance case comes in with a 465 Watt PSP


that could also make a difference in voltage also

another thing is the hard drive i am using is a old 4500 RPM 1Gig

i am only using it until the koolance comes in in which twin Raided SCSi hard drives will be used

would the fact that the hard drive is so slow and small cause the HDD errors?

or do you thaink i wasted my money on the Pentium 4 and Abit motherboard?

i like intel the best, i wanted the Socket 478, but, they are running too hot right now
when i upgrade to the SCSI it should take care of the problem

thanks, trey

[Stealth]

I would say it is soley the HDD , wow that is old. and IMO you can never waist you money on an ABIT mobo, again IMO they are the best. And about the P4 I think I would have went AMD, for the price you spent on thay P4 you could have got a AMD 1.4 and a swifty and had no heat problems, JMO

[trey_w]

thats makes me feel better that it was the HDD

because, if i cant get more than 115FSB, there is no reason to water cool the thing

do you know if you can change the buses for the PCI and AGP?

i think i got a good chip, it was made about the time the 2 GHz were being made

got it in a good batch

thanks,

trey

[Stealth]

I know this might sound crazy but here me out, try changing your FSB to 124 that will put your AGP and PCI bus under spec, and it is nor to unthinkable for the 1.7 to do, make sure your temps are good and try to raise your Vcc up a little and you might get to 124 FSB giveing you 2108 2.1 is a good O/C no matter how you look @ it.

[trey_w]

i have tried that because the PCI bus isn't that high, its actually slower

but it won't work, i think i have a voltage problem and a heat problem at that level.

when i put the Koolance water cool system and a 465 PSP, and a 10000 RPM SCSI hard drive(160mg per sec) i should be able to hit that FSB or More

i agree with you, having the bus speed at 124 is a great speed for the processor

i think i will be able to get more but stability wise thats probably about the max i would asume

im competing with my best friend who has the Abit KG7 RAID(if thats the right model #?) with 768 MG of DDR with the GeForce 3
TI 500 and the AMD XP1800+ CPU

400 watt psp and 7200 RPM HDD

no special cooling and a little overclocking

he loves AMD!!!!!!!!!!!

so we are going to benchmark and see what turns out better

but, no bench mark or application exist right now that takes full advantage of the Rambus bus


but i also know benchmarks are not everything


i think though before its said and done the performance will be pretty close


The DDR is a bunch of hype, its nothing new

To be honest, neither is RDRAM, but its still better than DDR

RDRAM advantage is that it is full duplex and has a seprate bus(RAM bus)

and its multiplexed but its the best out there on the market right now

can't wait until hollow-

graphic memory(wow)