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OCOC
08-29-05, 01:25 PM
I have bad experiences with Paypal service and do you feel the same way.? I'm thinking about bye bye them to go to another service for not treating customers right.

does anybody hear anything about google's payment service.? if you use Ebay, how do you pay or receive payment from your customers.?

thank you

Calidan
08-29-05, 01:57 PM
Hmm i have approx. 80 ebay sales, 95% of them through Paypal, never had a problem.
Paypal has even taken care of a couple scammers for me without my having to do a thing :)

BLcK
08-29-05, 02:37 PM
ive used paypal quite a bit so the only thing i can say thats bad about them if your selling something accept a confirmed address only. Ive lost 2 payoffs/payments(sold d2 items in the past) because i was being a nice guy, so my point is only ship to confirmed addresses, tangible items only.

Elif Tymes
08-29-05, 02:49 PM
I hate paypal.

But, alas, its the only thing out there :(.

Lionsault_100
08-29-05, 03:10 PM
i use personal checks, money orders, bidpay, etc.. i stay away from paypal because i have to foot 3% fee, and their privacy policy is quite shady. a guy i know had 500 dollars locked in there because of "suspicious activity" they never provided any details, or anything.

Alchemy1
08-29-05, 03:30 PM
i use personal checks, money orders, bidpay, etc.. i stay away from paypal because i have to foot 3% fee, and their privacy policy is quite shady. a guy i know had 500 dollars locked in there because of "suspicious activity" they never provided any details, or anything.

Yeah I had an account get closed due to "suspicious activity". I never got an explination either. The good thing is I don't keep money in my paypal account. So, I just opened up a new account. However, I agree I would like to see a new electronic payment system. Google has everything else...hopefuly it will only be a matter of time before they come out with an electronic payment system...lol

BLcK
08-29-05, 04:05 PM
thats strange 500 locked in? you should call them up and demand your 500 back. The only problem i had was with selling intangibles and the scammer did a chargeback. I will switch to bidpay for selling anything on ebay now.

Lionsault_100
08-29-05, 04:19 PM
they give it back to you in the form of a check 6months later.. but its still very shady business.. in their privacy policy they can keep all the money in your account.. they arn't an actual bank so u dont get the same protection as u would from a real bank.,

Kevin007
08-29-05, 04:32 PM
isn't paypal free? At least it isn't like Western Union, which isn't made for trade though, just give money to people you know.

Lionsault_100
08-29-05, 05:05 PM
not if you're taking in money, its 3% + some other fees

silent bob
08-29-05, 05:25 PM
I juist had my first bad experience with paypal
I bought something from the classifieds and when I got dudes paypal info , he transposed 2 letters in his email. so I sent to wrong person . I cancelled , but in their instructions for that they say just send again, with the right info , so I did that and now paypal is holding the400 I sent the first time and they sent out the 400 payment . I cant take THAT kind of hit in the pocketbook , I am financially cripple at this time , all becouse of WONDERFUL Paycrap I mean paypal.
Idiots IMO

WingsofGOD
08-29-05, 06:49 PM
Yup yup, i quit paypal a long time ago... It sucks.

Lionsault_100
08-29-05, 06:58 PM
their privacy policy is just too shady, and you cant call in to get answers you need (just like ebay).. the fact that eveyrthing must be solved by email is very backwards. it's too shady.

the core logic of the system is great, hopefully google picks up on that.

paypal is a great service untill one morning they pull some shady crap on you without explaination..

OCOC
08-30-05, 07:26 PM
is bidpay company in US.? I heard about this company BUT i'm not sure about the level of their service. What is your grade for bidpay.?

thanks

Mr.Guvernment
08-30-05, 08:00 PM
Yeah I had an account get closed due to "suspicious activity". I never got an explination either. The good thing is I don't keep money in my paypal account. So, I just opened up a new account. However, I agree I would like to see a new electronic payment system. Google has everything else...hopefuly it will only be a matter of time before they come out with an electronic payment system...lol


there are a million payment systems already out there - the reason PayPal and Ebay are so close is because Ebay owns PayPal

you have


www.neteller.com - #1 competitor to Paypal - FAR better systems overall.
www.firepay.com (US only)
www.prepaidatm.com
www.usemybank.com (Canada only)

and the list goes on and on and on (working in online gaming you get to know them all)

Mr.Guvernment
08-30-05, 08:02 PM
is bidpay company in US.? I heard about this company BUT i'm not sure about the level of their service. What is your grade for bidpay.?

thanks


Western Union own bidpay.

you sign up via bidpay - you use your credit card to purchase a money order that BidPay then mails to the customer.

Alchemy1
08-30-05, 08:45 PM
there are a million payment systems already out there - the reason PayPal and Ebay are so close is because Ebay owns PayPal

you have


www.neteller.com - #1 competitor to Paypal - FAR better systems overall.
www.firepay.com (US only)
www.prepaidatm.com
www.usemybank.com (Canada only)

and the list goes on and on and on (working in online gaming you get to know them all)

I guess I should have been more clear. I wish there was something that was more widely used. I know other services exist, but how many people are willing to do a transaction using those other services/have an account with those other services?

wandl
08-31-05, 10:06 AM
I think the thing with Paypal, especially since they are bought out by Ebay now, they are monopolizing the business and so can do anything cos they know Ebay users don't have many alternatives that are widely accepted by sellers and buyers alike.

I have had my accounts suspended TWICE for suspicious activity, one cos when I was over in Singapore visiting, I logged in to check my balance and it detected an "out of country log in attempt" and suspended it...I had a few hundred bucks locked in for a few months before they released it after I faxed over my life (ss card, passport, driver's license, itenary) to them...

The 2nd time the SAME account got suspended was when some ebayer paid me via fraudulent funds...his account was suspended, but while I already sent the goods, mine got suspended too..so I was out $190 and the mobo/cpu combo...

Paypal has several websites dedicated to their demise, they're just big enough not to care

Bidpay.com is actually pretty good, just not "instantaneous" like paypal, and costs a little more..

BTW while Paypal has a system in place to flag possible fraudulent deals, like deals over $500 or if a seller receives more than $1500 in a month (based on history) etc etc Paypal has someone to look over those deals instead of the system approving it...this person is the reason behind many "unexplained" suspensions or reversal of funds etc.

However, a friend of mine's friend worked for Paypal and quit about a year ago, said Paypal (after Ebay bought them out) was going through LOTS of scams with fraudulent credit card's for tens of thousands, and the Paypal administrators (the people who were supposed to look at the deals) were IN ON IT! None of this info is public because it would hurt their IPO if people heard thousands were scamming Paypal...

OCOC
08-31-05, 12:17 PM
Western Union own bidpay.

you sign up via bidpay - you use your credit card to purchase a money order that BidPay then mails to the customer.

1-how much does it cost me to let Bidpay mail money order to my customer EACH TIME.?

2-how long will my customer wait for the check.?

3-do they deposit money directly to your bank account.?

thanks you.

Mr.Guvernment
08-31-05, 08:13 PM
1. now sure, havent used them for a while - have to check their site

2. depends what shipping option you choose for it to arrive

3. no, you receive a money order you must deposit.

ghettocomp
08-31-05, 10:08 PM
I used PayPal rather extensively, until Ebay bought them. Now the service is rather Iffy. Just before Paypal was purchased(?) by ebay, I obtained one of their Credit Cards. This seems to bind them to proper handling of money since the card is throught some bank.

MRD
09-02-05, 03:48 PM
I hate paypal but I use it because it's so convenient. Just be warned that if **** goes bad, they won't stand behind you. Still, it's worth it to avoid going to the post office to get a money order every time I buy some **** on ebay. Heck, I use it on Newegg now so I don't have to go get my wallet for my CC # and type in all that ****, it's just easier to use paypal.

C0oLl2iCef0o
09-02-05, 06:11 PM
I just don't like their horrid fees

ziggo0
09-06-05, 01:11 PM
I'm young with no stable in come, still in school. I decided to sell my rig and raise some money to upgrade to an A64 platform, which i did. I bought some OCZ PC3200 Platinum EL off of PMS Fishy for 175$ shipped, at the time it was 210$ at NewEgg. After transfering the money to him, a day later PayPal randomly decided to charge me 25$ extra for a "Transfer Fee". What transfer fee? I've made many, many transfers though PayPal before and they've never charged me a transfer fee...my Comcast bill got paid the next day also and i wasnt aware that they took the 25$ until Comcast called me saying I dont have enough money in my bank account. From then until now I will not use PayPal unless im abo****ly certain its my only way of doing business...I'm only being this strict because as i've said first, I'm young, in school with no job and i cant afford a random 25$ to be taken from my account...

Elif Tymes
09-06-05, 05:44 PM
WTH? Paypal doesn't HAVE transfer fees....

:-p. Paypal sucks. I need to be 18 so I can get a CC, so I can use a different service :-p

lilxvietxboi
09-07-05, 02:12 PM
^When trading.. you can just give the other person your CC#.

*Offtopic* Reminds me of the family guy episode where quagmire is in a strip club and asks the stripper if she took credit. She said yes so Quagmire swipped it up her... you get the picture.