ochungry said:
You know, I am f...ing tiered of all you Intel fanboys telling me "you need to understand" or "you are not entirely correct" where it is you who don’t understand. Most intel members here always react in the same manner to those who may know the dilemma Intel causing them. after spending 1k on the setup and DDR2 800/1000 late to find out money wasted and DDR2 1000 no improvement and some cases poorer results, then resort to insult.
That's ok I understand your pain.
Sentenial, since you are the representative of mushkin, can you prove that changing from DDR2 533 to DDR2 1000 is going to bring about significant improvement? or any at all?
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2412&p=8
lol.... excuse me? Ok, sure. Lets set the record straight on this
This has absolutly nothing to do with me favoring Intel over AMD. This has everything to do with haveing a platform to help troubleshoot DDR2 for both Mushkin and Customers.
What you need to understand is that DDR2's advantage is its density, more so than its ability to reach higher speeds. Unlike many DDR1 including TCCD, it simply is too expensive to create the level of density that Infineon/Hynix's new 4GB sticks via 90nm can offer.
In addition as mentioned before, they can run considerably faster than DDR1 without having it cost as much. The other thing you need to understand is that Anandtech was doing the majority of their tests at a stock speed bus speed of 200mhz. This is especially worsened on a platform who's RAM must run asynch to reach its nominal
Surely you do not think that I or anyone would keep their FSB at stock speeds or even remotly close to 200?
The difference between S939's high peformance RAM and LGA775's is that S939's RAM is slow enough that most people are capable of running close to if not 1:1. With DDR2 this is simply not the case.
Once socket M2 arrives all of the rants against DDR2 ought to change as it should be able to run 1:1 on DDR2 much like the new .65nm cores from Intel should do as well.
So in summary, the reason why TCCD is pratically useless now, is that games like BF2 and others truly need 2GB to operate smoothly. This is something that neither UTT or TCCD will *ever* be capable of fully addressing.
I am not going to take up EternalX thread any more with this, you are welcome to join me on chat or continue this via PM