REVOLUTION CONTROLELR REVIELED! too happy

[C0oLl2iCef0o]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651275p1.html

3D Pointing. Sensors understand up, down, left, right, forward and backward.
Tilt Sensitive. Controller can be rotated or rolled from side-to-side.
Buttons Included. Has a trigger on its backside, face buttons, and a D-Pad.
Multifunctional. Has an expansion port which can be used with different types of controller peripherals. Analog stick with two trigger buttons planned for left hand.
Wireless. Totally wire-free. Currently there are no details on the max distance, source or power, or otherwise.

Wow, just wow, imagine playing FPS or SW games. Cool

[daniel_dynasty]

http://xeniac.com/?p=27

Buncha new stories into one.

[9mmCensor]

I see a wire. Cant really call it wireless can you?

[austinbmxnig]

thats pretty sweet, good job nintendo! I mean this IS NINTENDO! They know their gaming stuff pretty well and don't get enough credit these days I feel. They're just keepin' it real.

[drenader]

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html a pretty little video for all you to enjoy, i personally would punch someone if they were moving around as much as the people in the video. I also think apple designed this.

dre

[daniel_dynasty]

The next gen Nintendo console may not even be named the Revolution, check the xeniac link again

[OC Noob]

Thats strange if nothing else.

You have to shake your head and wonder if Nintendo is doing stuff like this just for the sake of being different or if they really think its going to improve gaming enough to stake their future on it.

[RedDragonXXX]

WTF was Nintendo thinking. That has got to be the stupidest controller I have ever seen. Are they trying to burry themselves on purpose?

That doesn't even look like a controller, it's more like my power extender.

[C0oLl2iCef0o]

http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2005/09/16/443527.html
heres a flash video of people using it

[shard]

looks fun, but not practical

[austinbmxnig]

yeah the video makes me retract my last statement, extremely crappy.......

[Mortis03]

Thats strange if nothing else.

You have to shake your head and wonder if Nintendo is doing stuff like this just for the sake of being different or if they really think its going to improve gaming enough to stake their future on it.


Took the words right out of my mouth

[DaddyB]

Very interesting, for some games it'll be awesome but I just can't see a platformer working all that well with it for example. FPS games should be cool, the control will be like a gun while the stick will be movement. Games like Zelda will be crazy, you swing the control like a sword. It will definetly be more immersive but only the games will decide if it is good or not.

It seems to be a lot like the power glove in a lot of ways and anyone that used it can tell you it just doesn't work very well for some games.

Well they promised different and they certainly delivered...

[TheGreySpectre]

That is not what I was expecting, and thats a sifnificant understatement, although they can totally do a lightsaber fight game with those (im nerdy enough to know that only the hilts of lightsabers have weight according to most sources)

[Enablingwolf]

That wore me out watching that video. To much work to play a game on that, it looks like.

[TheGreySpectre]

Super smash bros should be interesting, I for see at least some inccidents of accideentally hitting your friends.

This actually makes me very interested this as its a differnet expericane from anything you can get on PC, I shall follow the development of this quite closely and I might end up getting one

[Blackmage]

lol, 8.41 am at this time in the morning you don't need to see a Television remote

[Oni]

Wow . . . Just wow.

I'm absolutely flabberghasted! That looks amazing, really! I can hardly wait.

This could truly change the way we think about console gaming. No longer will we be confined to sit motionless. Now we'll have to swing that sword or manually change the pitch of a plane. From the looks of it, I don't think we'll be limited to just that, however. Should we want to play w/ an oldskule controller, I'm sure that there will be adaptors that can be purchased and added onto the Revolution controller so we can.

However, they may lose a lot of their 3rd party support (not that they have huge amounts of it right now, anyways ;)) if they can't work some things out regarding their controller scheme, and wether or not extra peripherals can be added to it.

I'm sure they'll get it all ironed out before launch. I know I'll be saving my pennies ;)

[threeme2189]

i still think my good old n64 controllers are the best...they just fit so nicely in your hands and you can reach all of the buttons you need...who neest more than that?
i don't like he look of this new controller thingy...

[tomchong]

You have to shake your head and wonder if Nintendo is doing stuff like this just for the sake of being different or if they really think its going to improve gaming enough to stake their future on it. Of coarse theyre doing it to be different! There is not room for three "Playstations" on the console market. (lets face it, how different will a PS3 be from a X360) Nintendo revolutions gameplay will be unique, intuitive and accesable to normal people. In a day in age when sticking a camera in a cell phone is considered innovation, its great to see a corporation with genuine creativity and willingness to take risks. Run with the little guy

[Blackmage]

Of coarse theyre doing it to be different! There is not room for three "Playstations" on the console market. (lets face it, how different will a PS3 be from a X360) Nintendo revolutions gameplay will be unique, intuitive and accesable to normal people. In a day in age when sticking a camera in a cell phone is considered innovation, its great to see a corporation with genuine creativity and willingness to take risks. Run with the little guy

I can't wait to see how the next genration contoller will work imagin a racing game :O

[xTrEmEoVrClOcKr]

Clutch, steering wheel, gas, brake, and shifter .. thats the next controller ;)

[theMonster]

YUCK!!!!!!

Nintendo's controllers have progressively gotten worse since the SNES. Everything after was a cluster-frack.

[ManOman]

I love the idea of it, it'll just take awhile to get used to it is all.
People fear change so I expect there'll be a ton of negative feedback about it even before they try it ;)

[9mmCensor]

Well, I think that the best thing to say is, "It looks odd/neat/like_a_remote, but I will make valid comments on its function, when I use it, because until then I am speculating on pictures"

[Papier]

I love the features. I think the features themselves can really change how we can play games.

But the ergonomics of the controller... ugh. People love the feeling of control and I don't think they'll fall for a one handed controller especially when it looks like a tv remote. I want all my controllers two handed so I can have as much control as possible. If they want more freedom to move, then maybe have the controllers split in half. Don't take away from gamers, give more to gamers. :thumbs:

[shard]

they do have the controller split in half, they have multiple plug in devices for your other hand, like an analog joystick seen in the movie

[Panzerknacker]

some games will be unplayable with this. For example, the Tony Hawk series. I don't think that is a good thing.

[Oni]

some games will be unplayable with this. For example, the Tony Hawk series. I don't think that is a good thing.

How do you know it will be unplayable? Have you played it?

I'm sure Nintendo will not hesitate to release attachments for this controller, similar to the analog stick seen attached to it. Even beyond that, using the example you provided, can you imagine controlling the tilt of your board by simply rotating your wrist? How 'bout performing an arial spin by just spinning your hand in the air, or a quick rotation of the analog stick, or performing an ollie by just flicking your wrist.

Think outside the box, people!

[theMonster]

How do you know it will be unplayable? Have you played it?

I'm sure Nintendo will not hesitate to release attachments for this controller, similar to the analog stick seen attached to it. Even beyond that, using the example you provided, can you imagine controlling the tilt of your board by simply rotating your wrist? How 'bout performing an arial spin by just spinning your hand in the air, or a quick rotation of the analog stick, or performing an ollie by just flicking your wrist.

Think outside the box, people!

Great, more crap errrrrrrr I mean accessories to buy :rolleyes:

[Romano3490]

I actually think this is really cool. Imagine playing Metroid Prime 3. Tilt the controller to strafe, point and shoot like a light gun, etc. In Zelda, you could swing the controller to use your sword. Racing games will be just perfect.

The graphics on the Revolution should be similar to the rest becuase it still has an r5xx in it just like XBOX360. The CPU will probably be singe or dual core (instead of the crazy PS3). It might mean a loos of some peak performance, but lower cost and easier to develop for.

They are also working on cube mapping and dimensional mapping. They are basically ways to turn CG (even real pictures) into gameplay with very little proccessing power. Cube mapping can also take 2d images and turn them into 3d.

The system will have an online catalogue of every Nintendo game ever made. They are experimenting with having 3d versions and online versions of old games. With these features and the new controller, I am looking forward to downloading some older games.

Also, so 3rd part developers aren't scared off by it, they are including a shell attachment that goes around it. It is supposed to look and feel similar to a Gamecube controller and it will still maintain the tilt capabilities.

PS3 and XBOX360 are basically the same system anyway. I'll be getting a XBOX360 and Nintendo Revolution. Thats for sure.

[Papier]

they do have the controller split in half, they have multiple plug in devices for your other hand, like an analog joystick seen in the movie


Ahh, now I remember! Logitech made one. It never really got off the ground though if I recall.

Something that combined with it to make it a normal 2 handed control can make everyone happy. Right now the little analog joystick plugin just seems waay to plain for me. Plus I don't see any buttons on it. Even if it has a button underneath, is that really enough buttons? :)

[threeme2189]

it will just be...different thats all...
but i still like my n64 controllers.

[Salomon Orangge]

Ahh, now I remember! Logitech made one. It never really got off the ground though if I recall.

Something that combined with it to make it a normal 2 handed control can make everyone happy. Right now the little analog joystick plugin just seems waay to plain for me. Plus I don't see any buttons on it. Even if it has a button underneath, is that really enough buttons? :)

I have that Logitech controller actually. The sensors didnt work all that well though, from what I remember, so most of the time, aside from a couple flight sims, I had the sensor turned off all the time. It just wasnt reactive enough.

[Elif Tymes]

Hmm, the movie looks very exagerated. I doubt the movement required is quite that much, and I doubt it would be able to track your ducking behind objects, etc. ;)

Other than that, I give Nintendo a BIG thumbs up.

Why? Because its DIFFERENT! I'm LOVING it! I LOVE my touch screen on my ds. It's intuitive, and fairly easy to control. I can use my left or right hand to control it, and data entry/movement is fairly simple.

This basically looks like it has a few different modes, as stated in the article.

Point and shoot: Basically, like a mouse pointer. Right on! All you people complaining "Games own't make sense any more" have obviously never used a mouse on their computer. Now, instead of a mouse though, it's merely point. Sorta like a laser for a power point presentation.

Move: Tracks the controllers movement/tilt. This is like a mouse, except for 6 dimensions! You can move up, down, left, right, forward and back, as well as monitoring xtilt, ytilt, and z tilt. Now to look up in FPS, you TILT your hand! as opposed to move it forward :-p. What I think this mode really needs though is a "Return to center" sort of thing, as I may or may not be willing to hold my hand perpendicular to the floor throughout my gaming session. This will more than likely be a simple calibration type thing, similiar to touchscreens on PDAs, or the Nintendo DS.

Frankly, this makes me excited. The Left hand adapter looks like it will come with the console/controller, and the "Wavebird Controller" may or may not be an add on, for all we know, they could release the controllers in a "pack" where you get the left analog stick, the remote thing, and the "controller plug in"

Anyways, I think Nintendo is taking the right way to approach this. Graphics have reached a point now, where they are INCREDIBLE. Sound is no longer 8 bits ;) and game developers understand gameplay concepts, etc.

What we need now is stretch, we need to stretch the industry, and in order to do that, we need something more innovative than "Our processors are really 10 different cores, we call it the 'Cell!'" or "We have two different versions of our console!"

If I buy a next gen console, then I'll buy a Nintendo one.

[Asj69]

This is the funny LOL. That is the most uncomfortable looking controller i have ever seen in my life! That thing is gonna Suxxors bad!!! Way to go Nintendo.

[C0oLl2iCef0o]

This is the funny LOL. That is the most uncomfortable looking controller i have ever seen in my life! That thing is gonna Suxxors bad!!! Way to go Nintendo.
The PS3 gets a boomerang shaped dual shock, and XB gets basically the same controller. I want to try something new.

[Apo11o]

That is not what I was expecting, and thats a significant understatement, although they can totally do a lightsaber fight game with those (im nerdy enough to know that only the hilts of lightsabers have weight according to most sources)

Actually the light in the lightsabers technically would have some weight depending on whether or not you think that its actually plasma in the actual blade of the thing, albeit a very small amount of weight. Whats sad is that i have actually spent alot of time thinking about that same thing. Oh well. I loved every minute of it. :cool:

The controller looks like an interesting idea, however im not sure that it will work in practice.

[C0oLl2iCef0o]

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg
here is a concept image of what the shell controller will look like for people wanting a more conventional controller

[Apo11o]

wow, thats bizarre. Only because it looks identical to the wavebird. Wheres the creativity in that?

[Romano3490]

The creativity is in the standard controller. The shell is for 3rd party developers who are lazy and people who fear change. It will still have all the tilt, position, and gyro functions.

[Apo11o]

I realize what its for i just think that its sort of funny for Nintendo to put all this work into their controller just to have a plain one for the one that (probably, IMO) most people will use.

[C0oLl2iCef0o]

I realize what its for i just think that its sort of funny for Nintendo to put all this work into their controller just to have a plain one for the one that (probably, IMO) most people will use.
i sure as hell won't use it. those are for people afriad of change

[Romano3490]

It is by no means a plain controller. It still has the gyro funtions. IE: You tilt it to turn in a racing game.

[Apo11o]

i sure as hell won't use it. those are for people afriad of change


Likewise.

It is by no means a plain controller. It still has the gyro funtions. IE: You tilt it to turn in a racing game.
Still.

[Rozal]

They have failed in the console market again. I don't care who you are, or what that controller has in it. It looks like a oversized ipod shuffle.

Edit: Everyone knows how bad the last controller was, what is this?

[Elif Tymes]

And, after all, the only thing that MATTERS in a controller is if it doesn't look like an Ipod...

And, keep in mind, Apo11o, that render of the controlleresque controller is really a concept, and not the final thing.

[theMonster]

Nintendo is going into the toilet. Need proof? One word: Nintendogs.

[DaddyB]

Nintendo is going into the toilet. Need proof? One word: Nintendogs.

I hope that is sarcasm...

That game probably sold more units in it's first week then the number of PSPs sold to date (I don't know the numbers but it's selling like mad). It's kinda like the sims, I'd never buy it but for some reason it's one of the all time best sellers. Although you and I may not buy them there sure is a market for those games.

[C0oLl2iCef0o]

Nintendo is going into the toilet. Need proof? One word: Nintendogs.
which sold over 250,000 in a week....



just in north america

[Oni]

Nintendo is going into the toilet. Need proof? One word: Nintendogs.

Ok, I've just about had it with you. Either you start to contribute to this thread in a meaningful way, or leave this thread. If you have something insightful or constructive to add, by all means add it. But if all you want to do is spread rampant fanboyism, spread it elsewhere.

There are plenty of Xbox360 and PS3 threads for you to actually participate in, you don't have to crap all over this one.

And yes, consider this an official warning.

[ubergeek_aP]

I would never ever buy a console, but when I saw this I was blown away. This would be the best party console and I bet my young kids would be able to easily work it with simplistic lay out. I have always preferd to game on my pc wich wll always have superior power and games/replay value. But this is just so diffrent compared to Ms and Sony I will have to get one.

[fuzzba11]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh wth Nintendo. I hope they know what they're doing.

[shard]

Ok, I've just about had it with you. Either you start to contribute to this thread in a meaningful way, or leave this thread. If you have something insightful or constructive to add, by all means add it. But if all you want to do is spread rampant fanboyism, spread it elsewhere.

There are plenty of Xbox360 and PS3 threads for you to actually participate in, you don't have to crap all over this one.

And yes, consider this an official warning.


this coming from the nintendo fanboy?


but yes, be nice, play nice, or the mod will you kick where its not nice :D

[twEEkerAreUs]

The first time I looked at this yesterday, I laughed and thought it was a joke. It doesn't seem very practical to me. I guess I'll have to wait and try it out whenever it comes out. I dislike the Gamecube & DS so hopefully they get there crap together with this.....Although the controller Wtf? :eh?:

[sulretal]

I am really excited.

However, I doubt the efficiency of the new Remote Control Gamepad; but I will still use it no doubt. I'm sure, as with everything else, the remote control will be a breeze to use after a while.

Want proof? Ok, remember the first time you got a Playstation paddle or an N64 Paddle. Remember the first thoughts? "Man, this thing is going to suck," is what you might have said. Why? Because it's different. One the gaming industry changed from flat controllers to controllers that felt the grooves of your hands, it was the same exact thing as what's happening with controllers on the market today.

What I'm really excited about is the online ability, and some of the most entertaining games on the console market. Go Nintendo!

[ckj]

I Love the controller. I like how it can be plugged into different devices so they can be used as a controller. I think this will cut down on the price of the additional accessories. Also, you can turn this controller sideways for the old school games (two handed of course), I don't know why you guys are saying platformers would be too hard. Also I wouldn't buy a 3rd party controller imo since from the review this controller seems pretty precise and anything else would likely have a less quality build.

[zexmarquies01]

when i first looked at it...i thought it was retarded..
.
but then when i found out It has tilt Sensors, can tell if you move the controller closer or farther, and found out the features, i'm TOTALLY PSYCHED!

Imagine playing A zelda game with it! or A Starwars game!

And you could EASILY play a RTS with it...it would just be like a lazer pointer!

Might have a few problems with it on some games though....but i'm sure they will work the kinks out of it. They won't make a completly new type of controller to not have game support for it.

While nintendo isn't the Powerhouse Giant of video games like they once were, i still trust their decisions, and still have hope in them.

Looks like i'm getting the Revolutions, and the PS3 ( i'm trying to win a Xbox360 with the pepsi every ten minutes thing. But i won't buy one, but i'll sure as hell take one for free! )

[theMonster]

Ok, I've just about had it with you. Either you start to contribute to this thread in a meaningful way, or leave this thread. If you have something insightful or constructive to add, by all means add it. But if all you want to do is spread rampant fanboyism, spread it elsewhere.

There are plenty of Xbox360 and PS3 threads for you to actually participate in, you don't have to crap all over this one.

And yes, consider this an official warning.

Say what? You know you're stepping over the line AGAIN. Complaint filed, Mr. Oni!

I own EVERY console made. INCLUDING the NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Virtua-Boy, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, AND Nintendo DS.

Don't talk to me about fanboyism, because I have more console knowledge then you'll ever dream of. I like the GameCube better than the PS2 as a matter of fact because Nintendo makes a quality product while Sony makes a shoddy one.

The Revolution is going to fill a niche and that niche is going to be the people who like Mario characters, family friendly entertainment and younger kids. They've stated that they're not even going to try to compete with MicroSoft or Sony.

I don't like the friggin controller. Sue me.



Man you really have just ****ed me off.

[SolidxSnake]

I do agree with theMonster, Nintendogs is HORRIBLE. The DS is a good handheld, and I'm definately gettning the Revoulution (depending when the PS3 comes out, its the Nintendo Revolution or the XBox360, not getting the 360 at launch).

This is coming from a diehard nintendo fan. I mean, yeah it does go by how many sales the product has, but really, do you want to pat a dog all day? in a VIDEOGAME? I sure as hell know I don't.

Though the touchscreen is so nasty...

theMonster: YOU HAVE A VIRTUALBOY?? Game listings PLEASE :drool:

[DaddyB]

...I don't know why you guys are saying platformers would be too hard...

I said it cause I have used the powerglove (still have one) and it is umm different. Just like the new control you could move it to the right to make mario walk and bend your finger to make him jump, I tried and gave up after many hours of trying to get it right. It was kinda cool for punch out and some other games though.

In the video they showed a girl flicking the controller up to make someone jump (with mario jumping noises), I don't think it will work well. I'm sure the Mario game will be polished to work with the remote but when the shrek 3 game (just an example, I don't know if this movie/game will come to fruition) comes to revolution can you imagine flicking the control to jump, while using the pointer to steer shrek and pulling the Z like trigger to do a kick while in the air. I just don't think it will work well but of course that remains to be seen, I am keeping an open mind though and as I said it will be awesome for some games but for others the more tradition controller "shell" may work better.

[amazon10x]

*checks if it is april fools day* *nope* *hmmmmm*

When I first brought up the IGN link I skimmed over and swa the first image *oh their including a remote for dvds, nifty* scroll down, dont see any controller, then I relaize dthat was a controller.

It looks pretty innovative though I don't know how well it would work for many games.

[theMonster]

theMonster: YOU HAVE A VIRTUALBOY?? Game listings PLEASE :drool:

I may have every console buy for the more obscure ones I only have a game or two. I don't play the virtuaboy because for some reason it hurts my eyes to play it and I mean HURTS not just makes uncomfortbale.

I have for the virtuaboy:Mario Tennis, Virtua golf and Virtua Baseball.

[theMonster]

If you kind of want to play around with something that'll be similar to the Nintendo controller to see if you'll like it you can try one of those EXPENSIVE Gyroscopic mice.

The Gyration is the only one I know of:
http://www.gyration.com/

[Vulcan]

Oh Boy. I can already see the kiddies at walmart franticly waving the revolution controller around... :p

I don't know I can't say I really like the idea at all. It would be great for sword fights or FPSs but what about driving games? I just don't see that working well in every situation. All I can say is that I hope it turns out better than I'm expecting.

[Dracknem]

Driving games it would be perfect, turn the controller sideways and there you have a steering wheel.

I think when some people are saying "this won't work for x type of game" they're thinking too much about how games are now. Nintendo is using this controller to try and revolutionize gaming. It's like when the first first-person game was made, I bet a lot of people didn't think about all the possible applications of that new viewpoint. I think this is a risky, yet potentially awesome move by Nintendo.

[d94]

i was going to get an xbox360 but this video was like WOaaaaa
if the games are good i might jsut get me a revalution :D

[twEEkerAreUs]

I am really excited.

However, I doubt the efficiency of the new Remote Control Gamepad; but I will still use it no doubt. I'm sure, as with everything else, the remote control will be a breeze to use after a while.

Want proof? Ok, remember the first time you got a Playstation paddle or an N64 Paddle. Remember the first thoughts? "Man, this thing is going to suck," is what you might have said. Why? Because it's different. One the gaming industry changed from flat controllers to controllers that felt the grooves of your hands, it was the same exact thing as what's happening with controllers on the market today.

What I'm really excited about is the online ability, and some of the most entertaining games on the console market. Go Nintendo!


No, just no. I've never complained about N64/PSX controllers. PSX/N64 controllers were not weird at all, I don't recall anyone I know ever saying "Man, this thing is going suck" N64 was praised as a controller right away along with PSX.

Nintendo tried this with the Power Glove and it failed. This may work, but it's Nintendo trying to draw attention away from MS/Sony...Over a controller people Lol. Forget system competition and let's make the most talked about point a controller :rolleyes:

[theMonster]

From what IGN said, they like it in Metroid Prime. I think Nintendo has been edging away from 3rd party games for a while now, this may be Nintendo's last step toward a "pure" product, 100% Nintendo, from console, to software to preripherals. Good luck, i don't know how far Mario characters, Metroid, Zelda and Pokemon can take them by themselves. I think they still need an EA, Namco or Capcom in their corner to be successful enough to generate the profits they are used to. Needless to say, I'll have one, I just may not play it much.

[ckj]

I said it cause I have used the powerglove (still have one) and it is umm different. Just like the new control you could move it to the right to make mario walk and bend your finger to make him jump, I tried and gave up after many hours of trying to get it right. It was kinda cool for punch out and some other games though.

In the video they showed a girl flicking the controller up to make someone jump (with mario jumping noises), I don't think it will work well. I'm sure the Mario game will be polished to work with the remote but when the shrek 3 game (just an example, I don't know if this movie/game will come to fruition) comes to revolution can you imagine flicking the control to jump, while using the pointer to steer shrek and pulling the Z like trigger to do a kick while in the air. I just don't think it will work well but of course that remains to be seen, I am keeping an open mind though and as I said it will be awesome for some games but for others the more tradition controller "shell" may work better.

Yeah but you can connect the remote to a more traditional controller if you so desire and I have a feeling it may be like the DS where there's sometimes more than one way of doing something. IN mario 64 DS using the touch screen to control mario was really hard but if you used default settings (D-pad and buttons) it was like any other gameboy game.

[frenzy20]

I like the idea. I think it would be really hard to get used to haveing part of a controller in each hand though. But if you don't like it, you can always use the regular controller shell. Either way, I'm buying this even its just for the old games and party games.

[Dracknem]

Imagine what they could do for a mario party with this new controller. =-o

[cw823]

Man you really have just ****ed me off.

The feeling is mutual. Comments like the above should be made via PM or not made at all.

[macklin01]

Hmm, the Nintendogs remind me of some of the virtual pet things (weren't they yamaguchi or gigapets or something?) of the nineties. They were very popular in their day. I can see these selling well to a different target market that wouldn't normally buy a video game platform (e.g., teenage girls). You're just not in the target market. But you wouldn't make fun of AMD or Intel because you can play Barbie games on PC's. :) In short, nothing to get bent out of shape over, and largely irrelevant.

And I agree with Oni here. This is a discussion about the Revolution controllers. Regardless of any knowledge somebody may have on Nintendo or anything else in here, pointless, one-liner remarks that add nothing to the discussion are not appreciated. -- macklin01

[Rozal]

I want to point a few things out... Nintendo entered this console battle saying as an old man " We've been hear for years and dominated the console market" Not actual quotes here but thats roughly what they said. Its 2005, and Gamecube is not looking to good. I think the only games (recent) games I enjoyed was Smash bro. and Zelda OoT. After nintendo had very bad years ( I even read an article about how bad they did one year )
they make there somewhat entertaining DS ( I actually enjoyed alot of games on display for DS ) but it lacks features, and here we go again " We've Dominated the portable gaming market for years" The PSP can do a variety of things I even have seen commercials for movies, "Now avalible for DVD and PSP". I hope nintendo did not spend to much money on the revolution because I have a huntch it is not going to do so well. I discussed the remote or the new controller with some casual people not even hearing of the revolution before and they thought it was ridiculous. With such amazing systems coming out this year and next year, and how many people have learned how nintendo's gamecube was a disaster. My Step-Sister got a gamecube, she was 9, a year later she got a xbox because the gamecube was boring and everytime she went to blockbuster, a sliver of a section was for Gcube games. Three factors play a role in the next-gen race that will be the ultimate factor that people will use when all three systems come out. The system specs, MultiPlayer, and the variety of games. You dont want to play with horrible outdated graphics. You dont want to continuously be "alone" if you will, and you most certainly dont want 2 games to select from.

[KfistoRok]

Ok, I've just about had it with you. Either you start to contribute to this thread in a meaningful way, or leave this thread. If you have something insightful or constructive to add, by all means add it. But if all you want to do is spread rampant fanboyism, spread it elsewhere.

There are plenty of Xbox360 and PS3 threads for you to actually participate in, you don't have to crap all over this one.

And yes, consider this an official warning.

WTH is wrong with you? He can state his opinion. Nintendogs.. what more does he have to say? Nintendo puts out an inovative system called the DS and what does it offer? The answer is recycled Mario 64 and a puppy dog game. DS, the innovative system with un-innovative games. Everybody knows that. Everyone I know who bought the DS has sold it to buy the PSP. Nintendo has been on a dive since the 64. Recycling their 8 and 16 bit titles on five, get that, FIVE different handheld systems is the only thing that they have going for them and they are about to dry up. They plan on selling these titles on the Revolution as well. To put it simply, the only fanyboy is you and yes I can say this from remembering your past posts where you became touchy about the Gamecube. Why you have me sparked, let me say for any of those questing the small participation on this board, you don't have to go much further than this thread for one of the reasons. :rolleyes:

[Dracknem]

Why is this thread turning into nintendo bashing? Nintendo still has some of the most fun games on the market, in my opinion, and it has the guts to go out and try something new. Let's face it, a majority of game developers are producing the same games with better graphics. Nintendo is trying something new, the article at ign seems to point out that the controller works and it works well, even if in simplistic games. How about we wait and see the Revolution before we talk trash about how it's going to stink.

I would prefer a console do something innovative like this than just try and be a computer.

Oh, and Nintendogs appeals to a diferent market than most people here are in, but it is a huge market, just look at Nintendogs sales.

[shard]

I think its a bit more then Nintendo bashing, more like ego's colliding. :rolleyes:


After some more thought, I think the Revolution will be great, and even if Nintendo releases their own stuff on it. I think its going to be much more a niche console then anything else, especialy after what the PS3 and XBOX360 are trying to do.

[whooping_a_panda]

I think the controller looks like a flippin television remote. I have a difficult time as it is working the cable television with it much less fighting off hordes of monsters in zelda, but it's Nintendo. If anyone has a shot at pulling something like this off I'd bet my marbles on Nintendo.

[man_utd]

Well I think a lot of the point was to make it look like a remote. It's not exactly like television remotes are unfamiliar to people, and for the most part are made to be comfortable. Considering you can't really put buttons on a wand, it's just about the best choice otherwise.

[TollhouseFrank]

I mean, yeah it does go by how many sales the product has, but really, do you want to pat a dog all day? in a VIDEOGAME? I sure as hell know I don't.

theMonster: YOU HAVE A VIRTUALBOY?? Game listings PLEASE :drool:

The same people who love the SIMS, and buy MILLIONS and MILLIONS of copies of it every year. LOL.

Guys, remember, it still has 4 controller ports to hook up Gamecube controllers, so that is always an option.

Another thing I liked was the possibility of using 2 of those devices at once in a game.... fighting games anyone?

I honestly think that those people threadcrapping in here about hating the controller and saying its the doom of Nintendo are limiting thier worldview. Think of it this way:

Legend of Zelda - The Wind Waker. Most people saw that it was going cell-shaded and wrote it off. However, just because it didn't have "realistic" graphics didn't mean it wasn't a blast to play and that it wasn't hte best game ever... well.. not quite... but Wind Waker was probably #2 for me next to the tie at the top of Ocarina of Time/A Link to the Past.

Guys, graphics aren't the end all be all of games. Controllers aren't the end all be all of games. FUN FACTOR is the end all be all of games. If people don't enjoy it, they don't buy it.

Sims/Sims2 for example, I dont' understand what my wife sees in that game, but she'll play it for hours at a time. She enjoys it, and buys the games/expansions. Same for Nintendogs, Mario, Sonic, Halo, etc. We may not always know why people enjoy them (i still don't see what people enjoy halo1&2, they felt like stripped down versions of Unreal Tournament), but people enjoy them, they get bought, and companies makes kajillions.

Can we agree to disagree on this one? I say reserve judgement until ya get to play with a demo unit. That is what turned me off of X-box (nasty, stiff controller) vs. Gamecube (and i didn't want a PS/2... don't like them and never have... all the games come to PC anyways :D)

[theELVISCERATOR]

reviled is the correct spelling right?

cuz most people hate that powerpoint controller..

[shard]

(i still don't see what people enjoy halo1&2, they felt like stripped down versions of Unreal Tournament)


See what happens when you dont have a PC? You play the wannabe games :D

[deathman20]

Wierd controller, thought that was a DVD remote when I kept on seeing it in pictures.

The gyro function I can see taking off, but as in the past, Nintendo makes the inovation, and Sony cashes in on it with the next console generation, unless Sony is hiding something from us, and makes it standarised.

Man all that twisting of the controller in racing games (well not anymore snice I got a whell) will actually do something lol.

Overall its too small, I'd get cramps playing with a controller that size. I need something with a mass to it, XBox controller is quiet nice I gotta say, PS2 right behind it but my hands started hurting after a while using that controller. Gamecube, didn't really play it that much so I can't commit fully on there controller. N64 controller was the s*#@ though, 1 handed or 2 handed really great idea.

[AdvanS13]

i think we spoke too soon ;)...look at some of the images below

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html

[deathman20]

Ya someone else already posted that link... Truely its more of your basic controller looks like it just a shell that gets plugged into the main controller. Inovative for sure.

[OC Noob]

Of coarse theyre doing it to be different! There is not room for three "Playstations" on the console market. (lets face it, how different will a PS3 be from a X360) Nintendo revolutions gameplay will be unique, intuitive and accesable to normal people. In a day in age when sticking a camera in a cell phone is considered innovation, its great to see a corporation with genuine creativity and willingness to take risks. Run with the little guy


Being different and being innovative are still different things. Being innovative implies a degree of sucess along with being different. Being different can be the tattoed/piericed/purple headed girl with low selfestime, that is in no way innovative.

I'm not going to say this thing will definitely flop, because I don't know, but I wouldn't get all excited about a video that shows people swinging it around like a lightsaber. Functionallity has yet to be proven and that is a loooooooong way from what we've seen so far.

I was pleasently suprised with the developement of a few 1st party games for the DS's touch screen and still think the second screen is an utter waste of time, but Nintendo has spiced up the flash game genre and given the DS life dispite little to no significant functionality out of the second screen.

So who knows what they can do with this thing. Maybe it will be super cool, but either way I'd have prefered they market the more traditional controllers and surprised everyone with this new thing so if it sucks it would just be a crappy peripheral rather than staking so much on an unproven device.

This is now the trade mark of the revolution and Nintendo will sink or swim with it. Hopefully their engineers have their own magic wands, because making this controller accurate and as tight as a gamepad alone will be a quite a feat.

Oh well, heres to hoping it is inovative and not just different.

[TheGreySpectre]

Even If there weird remote shaped controller doesnt work very well, I can see sensors like it being put into other controllers for other consoles in the system even if they have more traditional controllers

The basic layout of the revolution controller means it can easily be fit into many different types of shells.

You could easily have a racing wheel shell for the controller, or a gun, and these wouldnt be as hard for companies to make because all the hardware is already included

I can also see where the original controller shell could come in handy playing old nintendo games, not designed for the revolution

also with the fact that nintendo is releasing there entire library, its not like game selection will be limited

I suppose it remains to been seen weather the controller is inovative or not, but I would guess that the amount of sensors they put into it is something we will start seeing in future game controllers

[Shishio]

Woo Hoo Finally a solution for ridding obesity in America!!!

No seriously this is pretty cool. Honestly I find most console games to be repetitive and redundant. This is a fresh new idea. I can't wait.

[fuzzba11]

After watching Miyamoto's introduction to the controller, it made a little more sense to me. They want to attract parents to playing video games as much as they want the kids hooked, that will bring in tons of extra cash for them. Sony and Microsoft have been expanding the market of gamers over the last few years, it suddenly made sense to buy a PS2 or an Xbox as a DVD player. So now if Nintendo can make a console that's as easy to game on as a DVD player, they get even more buyers, 'that would otherwise never pick up a game controller.'

Also keep in mind, kiddies, that IGN came up with the Wavebird/remote controller, Nintendo only has the little analog stick so far.

That said, I think my purchase depends entirely on how I feel in Zelda with the new controller.

[Fighter2a]

That said, I think my purchase depends entirely on how I feel in Zelda with the new controller.

All it can do is enhance gameplay. There is still a "regular" controller so it can be played like it is now.

[ckj]

WTH is wrong with you? He can state his opinion. Nintendogs.. what more does he have to say? Nintendo puts out an inovative system called the DS and what does it offer? The answer is recycled Mario 64 and a puppy dog game. DS, the innovative system with un-innovative games. Everybody knows that. Everyone I know who bought the DS has sold it to buy the PSP. Nintendo has been on a dive since the 64. Recycling their 8 and 16 bit titles on five, get that, FIVE different handheld systems is the only thing that they have going for them and they are about to dry up. They plan on selling these titles on the Revolution as well. To put it simply, the only fanyboy is you and yes I can say this from remembering your past posts where you became touchy about the Gamecube. Why you have me sparked, let me say for any of those questing the small participation on this board, you don't have to go much further than this thread for one of the reasons. :rolleyes:

Warioware was a lot of fun albiet short and Kirby's canvas curse is a great game, and a perfect showing of the touch screen's abilities. Also, the DS has 2-3 times the battery power of the PSP. I don't want to recharge my batteries every 3 hours (that's how often my friend has to do it).

[Vio1]

this controller has the potential to be Ok for some games, but i dont think it will catch on. I wouldnt want to wave my arms around like a fool in order to play a game. I think it will be alright for the over energetic 12 year old, but not for 20+ age group.

[zexmarquies01]

Well there is ONE thing i can say with about 100% Accuracy...

Nintendo makes DURRABLE products.

Drop a psp from 8 feet. Drop a DS from 8 feet....see which works.

Drop a PS2, Drop a Gamecube....

Drop a X-box, Drop a Gamecube

Their products can take a BEATING.

And i'm nearly 100% positive this controller will be the same way. With all the swinging, and moving you may do with it, its bound to pop out of your hands and slide 5+ feet across the floor. And i'm 100% sure it will still work when you pick it back up.

If anything, nintendo gets props on Durrability!

I have seen so many PS1's and PS2's have trouble working even now, yet i can turn on my NES and have it play most games perfectly ( unless the Cart is bad, or the contacts got corroded, which is easily fixed ).

All i know, is that if 3rd party people start making Add-ons for this new controller, I hope that the One rule is, that the main controller part, that is the DVD Controller looking thing MUST be a nintendo made Controller.

That way, it will stop companies (oh...like MadCatz) from making shoddy Actual controllers, and force them to work around Nintendo's Own controller.
I could see it now, Madcatz makes a Fully working Controller on their own for this, and it breaks the first time you drop it, Or doesn't even work correctly out of the box.

( Note: I HATE MadCatz. They make the WORST products on earth! i'd rather go buy a pet rock...because at least it will do what its supposed to!)

So lets see here....


Sony - Pure power and GFX with Ultra Dense Discs ( Blu-ray ).

Microsoft - Alot more power and GFX power than X-box, arn't working on Pure raw speed and GFX, but going more for the online croud/lan gaming.

Nintendo - ( not sure on the power or GFX power of this thing yet...) But obviously still keeping to their personal Niche. The younger gamers, Filled with Enjoyable games that are Fun to play For the entire Family and even friends. ( that and they have Zelda, Metroid, and Mario....hard to fight those deadly 3 ).


Now what i'm wondering is, If squre-Enix will work with nintendo once again and produce a game which can use this new controller. ( other than nintendo ) if only one company could make this controller work, i'd put my money on Square.


Also, i don't think platformers will be TOO hard to play with this thing. FPS's shouldn't be to hard either, Racing would be fine as well.

But what about sports games? ( which i don't like anyways but still ).

What about games like Devil May Cry, Onimusha, And Zone of enders ( yeah i know...not nintendo games...but nintendo has a few games kinda like that ).

Platoformers won't be to hard...but what about 3D platformers? Are we sure that moving a Character from 3rd person point of view, In a 3D enviroment will be Easy to do with this thing? ( not counting the shell add-on ).

Only time will tell i guess. We must wait to see more information about their system in general, more news about the controller, and a chance to see the controller in live action.

up untill then, The future of nintendo will be in speculation.

Though i don't think nintendo will ever truly die out. Nintendo is huge in Japan. We, are in america. Our gamce choice fan-base is WAY different from japan's. Nintendo products, in general seem to Put more focus on the japanese players than they do the american players. And japan's fan-base is in nintendo. ( and sony ).

Nintendo's market will always be around. Maybe not so much in america as it used to be, but they will still Be around in japan for YEARS to come.

[OC Noob]

Warioware was a lot of fun albiet short and Kirby's canvas curse is a great game, and a perfect showing of the touch screen's abilities. Also, the DS has 2-3 times the battery power of the PSP. I don't want to recharge my batteries every 3 hours (that's how often my friend has to do it).


Lets not get crazy and start making stuff up. Many of us have both handhelds and know the PSP's battery life is much longer than 3 hours.

[zexmarquies01]

the PSP Lasts alot longer than 3 hours.

unless you are watching a movie on it, have the volume set to high, and the brightness set to high as well, and arn't smart enough to have it plugged in while watching it...then sure..it will only last about 3 hours.

But even with the brightness on full, with full volume, you get at least 6 hours on most games.

So either your friend does nothing but watch movies on it, Doesn't fully charge the PSP...or he is just retarded.

that or he doesn't shut if off correctly.

If you just flip the power switch once...it turns it off...but more like in a sleep mode. It will remember exactly what you have done when you shut it off. you can pick back up on a game EXACTLY where you left off. Kinga like a Sleep mode.

only problem is that by doing that, While it is still " off " its using energy to keep the memory alive.

So make sure your friend knows that. What he NEEDS to do is hold the power switch up for 5 seconds. then the console truly shuts off. and uses no power...other than to keep the internal clock alive. which doesn't use much energy.

also when not using it you should keep it plugged in. And keep it fully charged at all times. The less times you fully recharge it, The longer the battery will live before having to buy a new one. Basicly you are avoiding alot of Recharge times, by keeping it charged when not using it. Stops the battery from draining by the CMOS, or the sleep mode. Thus the battery stay's good, longer.

Just some general tips.

so tell your friend. or...depending if he's real or not. Tell your " Friend ".

[Paul1]

http://www.mylounge.net/img/sonintendo.jpg

Don't worry, the image is linked from my site.

[deathman20]

http://www.mylounge.net/img/sonintendo.jpg

Don't worry, the image is linked from my site.

LOL So true...

[TheGreySpectre]

http://www.mylounge.net/img/sonintendo.jpg

Don't worry, the image is linked from my site.


that just made my day

[Paul1]

I aim to please. ;]

[Elif Tymes]

http://lostgarden.com/2005/09/nintendos-genre-innovation-strategy.html

THis guy is reading my mind.

The most clear, logical approach to the Nintendo Revolutions controller, and why my money's (still) on nintendo.

They lead Sony/MS follows. Leaders make money, followers make money. The fact of the matter is, the nintendo Revolution will do just that, revolutionize gaming, and create many new genres.

[ajrettke]

good find paul...
As for this...man I think it's great. I think the current version of consoles blows. The controller has remained unchanged since the NES launched consoles into the world. This is one thing that can change the way we play games...why are people saying this is gonna suck when they havn't used it? It's not your billions of dollars on the line, you can only stand to gain!

Imagine light saber/sword games and FPS with this thing! Wow....I would love to see some midevil game running around hacking and slashing and blocking...Oh well off to bed for me *quick slices and dices with a quick overhead block....*

*swoosh come down through for the kill*

[Panzerknacker]

How do you know it will be unplayable? Have you played it?

Have u never played Tony Hawk or something?

[ScarfaceFX]

seriously i think that contoller is the just like the mini cds for gamecube ,A VERY STUPID IDEA !!

[ckj]

Yes sometimes my friend is watching movies on it with max volume. But I may have asked him at a bad time it probably does last a little longer. I think he said 6 hours of music. I don't know how he treats his PSP and this is really just what he told me. He's quite happy with it though, he's just sad he upgraded to firmware 2.0 and cant' use the homebrew apps.

[OC Noob]

good find paul...
As for this...man I think it's great. I think the current version of consoles blows. The controller has remained unchanged since the NES launched consoles into the world. This is one thing that can change the way we play games...why are people saying this is gonna suck when they havn't used it? It's not your billions of dollars on the line, you can only stand to gain!

Imagine light saber/sword games and FPS with this thing! Wow....I would love to see some midevil game running around hacking and slashing and blocking...Oh well off to bed for me *quick slices and dices with a quick overhead block....*

*swoosh come down through for the kill*

In the same vien I don't understand why so many people are sure its going to revolutionize gaming or even work effectively as a lightsabre when they haven't tried it yet. So far we have an inferior shell based controller and a concept remote-control style controller. Hardly enough evidence to confirm or condemn, but enough evidence to give doubt or hope depending on the perspective.

ps You must be young if you think the nes launched consoles and gamepads.

Here is a much older gamepad... attached to a not so popular older console:

http://home.comcast.net/~crazy_ivan/TJs_Games/Intellivision.html

pps analog sticks, rumble pads and analog triggers have greatly improved gamepads since the original NES pad. You should try picking up a fancy new PS1 or N64 and check em out :santa:

[man_utd]

Well technically that wasnt a d-pad, and the intelivision isnt the oldest console. That would be the magnavox odyssey.

[ajrettke]

OC noob....the NES did launch to console...atleast in the US. Yeah I know atari, etc etc but those were few and far between, NES was a massive boom in the console market.

But that is true about the shell...but I'm pretty sure the technology is already there and doesn't require much development. Especialy the wireless aspect.