New To The Game....

[ShellMaza]

Hello My Name Is ShellMaza Chillin In MI.

Heres My Rig

P4 3.4Ghz HT Pres.
1 Gig OCZ DDR 3200 2-2-3-5 (Going 4 Gigs)
MSI MOBO (865PE Neo3)
GForce FX6600 256DDR
120Gig Segate Barracuda 7200.7
Demon 580Watt PSU
Thermaltake Big Water SE

Solid 51c

What Am I Doing Wrong?

[ShellMaza]

Pictures Are Worth A 1000 Words!

[crimedog]

you've got an extremely hot processor (if it's the older D0 stepping) so with a low-end water setup that's not suprising. with those kits i think the only thing you can really do wrong is have a bad mount or put on too much or too little thermal paste.

welcome to ocforums :)

[ShellMaza]

SL7J8
D0 Steping.
Ok, What Do I Need Todo? The Cpu Block Is Really Nice. What Should I Replace. Wanting To OC It To 4Ghz. Tell Me, And I Shall Do!

[crimedog]

haha, like the attitude ;)

how much money are you willing to spend? you may like the cpu block but there are much better out there... anyone here giving you suggestions on upgrades is going to want you to sell that kit and piece together your own. another important consideration is how big of a radiator can you fit? and will you mod your case for it?

[ShellMaza]

Few 100usd

[z0n3]

What level of ecperience do you have working with computers and cooling? Do you have the tools to mod your case? Also if you are aiming for 4 ghz your ram might hold you back. Not all of those OCZ sticks can make it to those speeds.

[ShellMaza]

Ram Is OCZ EL Plat. @ 169.99usd A Stick It Betta! :P
Modding... No Problem.
Cooling As In WC, Only Owned 2 WC-Kits.

FYI: The Rad Fans, One Is Pushing Other Is Pulling.

[ShellMaza]

Also Willing To Put Stuff Out Side Of The Case... Need H/D Space For 1.2TB Raid-5 Setup. Dont Ask :P

[hainer36]

you can get a nice wc'ing set-up for fairly cheap if you hunt for parts that people sell....d94 is a good example, he has his dual core running nice and cool on a $80 wc'ing set-up, i originally spent about 100 on mine, then i went to another rad, another pump, and tried a pelt, so i went over 150, but its still nice and cool, and gives me 4.2ghz with ease, just read the wc'ing stickies and search around, youll find a good set-up for cheap.

[ShellMaza]

Sitting At 141F, Is This Too Hot? I Fear I Might Damage My CPU If I Don't Get This Puppy Under 100F

[Fighter2a]

Are you blowing cold air through your radiator or sucking hot air from the case through it?

[ShellMaza]

This Is The Air Flow

[ShellMaza]

I Switched The Direction OF Air Flow, It Went UP 2F! :(

[ShellMaza]

Wich Item Should I Replace First?
Pump Or CPU Block Or HeaterCore "Radator"

And With What? I Have 1/4" Tubing.

[ShellMaza]

Thinking Of Going With This Unit "Innovatek Konvekt-O-Matic Passive "

Pros? Cons?

[speed bump]

I would try Swiftech 6002.

Chevette HC and 120mm fan

Inexpensive mag3 eheim 1048, or some DC pump. cools your CPU down to a nice temperature and is probably the same price or less than that kit your looking at.

Otherwise Koolance is ok but not reccomended.

[ShellMaza]

where would i find these items?

[ShellMaza]

How About This Setup?

Cpu Water Block $52.95usd
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-234.html

Reservoir $59.99usd
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-res-79.html

Pump $111.99usd
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-pmp-09.html

North B. $42.99usd
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-191.html

Tubing 10ft x $2.00usd = $20.00usd
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-tub-80.html

Rad. $151.99usd
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-rad-47.html

[Fighter2a]

This is what I have and what I recommend.

CPU Block: Storm G4 (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_199&products_id=3349)
Pump: MCP 655 (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_201&products_id=3112)
Radiator: Black Ice Xtreme 2 blk (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_200&products_id=1646)

You'll need 2 or 4 fans I recommend 120x38mm Sanyo Denki fans but I don't know where to buy them. Also instead of a res you might consider a T line

[ShellMaza]

1/4" Or 1/2" Tubing? Shopping Now With ABout 400 Buxs To Play With.

[clocker2]

Swiftech Storm (http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-204.html) CPU block.

Swiftech MCP655 (http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-pmp-27.html) pump.

Thermochill PA120 (http://www.thermochill.com/news3.php) radiator.

The rest of the details (res/T-line, clamp type, tube brand, etc) are really a matter of personal preference.

[ShellMaza]

Should I Stick With The 1/4" Tubing Or Move Up To 1/2" ?

[ShellMaza]

Also Was I Lucky To Get That CPU For Only $199.99usd?

[ShellMaza]

Ok, So Far I Have Picked Up A New CPU Block.
CPU Danger Den.
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-230.html?mv_pc=660

North Bridge
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-188.html?mv_pc=330

10ft 1/2 Tubing.

Can I Use A Peltier To Get Xtream Low Temps?

[Aphex_Tom_9]

Ok, So Far I Have Picked Up A New CPU Block.
CPU Danger Den.
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-230.html?mv_pc=660

North Bridge
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-188.html?mv_pc=330

10ft 1/2 Tubing.

Can I Use A Peltier To Get Xtream Low Temps?
dont go peltier yet, that's a whole new game.
I would go with the stuff that Clocker2 recommended.

[Xymurgy]

I always try to minimize the amount of tubing used. You want the water to move as quickly as possible. 90 degree elbows will hurt you too (looks like your old waterblock has them).

Why the NB block and no GPU block?

[Icedfire101]

don't go with a nb, the really don't help you at all and can even hurt your temps

and also go with 1/2 tubing

and go with the stuff Clocker2 reccomended

[ShellMaza]

i bought the extra tubing incase of cut mistakes....
i bought this pump
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-pmp-27.html
the one clock2 said to get....
i want to cool the NB. GPU for a GForce FX6600, is it really needed?

[ShellMaza]

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=4&cat=72&page=1
How About This Rad.?

[noxqzs]

The pump you chose should handle it well enough. Now all you need is a good radiator and cpu block.

The BIX requires strong fans, might want to consider a BIP. Get ready for some case cutting though.

People favor either the 6000 or G4 series waterblocks. EIther one will give you noticeable improvements.

[ShellMaza]

i got the danger den cpu block with 1/2 and 3 pipes.
case cutting? i'm mounting the pump on the top with a platic cover, and mounting the rad. on the side with riser screws.

question....
do i want to suck air thru the coils of the rad or push air thru?

[ShellMaza]

how many rpms should i use to cool the rad.? 2000, 2800, 3000?

[Aphex_Tom_9]

i got the danger den cpu block with 1/2 and 3 pipes.
case cutting? i'm mounting the pump on the top with a platic cover, and mounting the rad. on the side with riser screws.

question....
do i want to suck air thru the coils of the rad or push air thru?
ssssssuck

[Aphex_Tom_9]

how many rpms should i use to cool the rad.? 2000, 2800, 3000?
RPM dosent matter, CFM and pressure matters

[ShellMaza]

Ok.....
Suck (10-4)
69.15CFM Or More?

[ShellMaza]

Where Can I Find Some Bulkhead So i Can Put Fittings Thru The Case Walls To Clam On Hoses?

[PottaCoola]

I have that same kit and processor and i, but my water block broken and leaked so iv made my own kit costin me £270. the big water realy isnt that good my temps was around 47c. you wont get much better with this kit and with 6.5mm tubes theres no wonder why. Ether more rads or a new kit would help it.

edt: btw the cpu block is good its just fragile!

[Bugsmasher]

If you go with a Black Ice Xtreme series radiator to really see them perform you will want 80cfm fans or greater. If noise is a consideration look at their Pro line which does well with sub 80cfm fans.

If you want the best of both worlds and price is not a consideration look into the PA line by Thermochill. Their performance with sub 80cfm fans approaches that of the Xtreme line by BlackIce.

Look into using 7/16" ID - 5/8" OD tubing.
1. Its much cheaper. Look for the Masterkleer at www.mcmaster.com $15 delivered or less will get ya 25'. Thats plenty extra to try different loop layouts or replace as needed over time.
2. Its much more flexible than most 1/2" ID - 3/4" OD tubing. This is nice for bends.
3. It does fit over 1/2" OD fittings. Simply place the end to be fitted in hot water for a few seconds before sliding it over the fitting. If needed a small amount of liquid soap or glycerin can be used as a lubricant.
4. Once in place its a nice tight fit. Although I dont suggest it some people go without clamps. Personally I always use clamps.

Bulkhead Fittings -
Go to www.mcmaster.com and search for Bulkhead Tank Fittings.

They have a pretty nice selection there of what you may need. While your there look up their Masterkleer tubing part #5233K44

[ShellMaza]

Ok Everything Installed, Mounted, etc... Still At About 116f 100% Idel, Small Work Load 122f. Where Did I Go Wrong?

Black Ice III With 3 x 120mm Fans At Full Speed. Lian-Li Case V2000B, "Will Post Pixs Soon!" Danger Den CPU Block, North Bridge Block Also Danger Den. Swiftech Pump. And Using A T-Line. Should I Just Buy A Newer CPU? One That Dosen't Have The Horable D0 Steping?

[ShellMaza]

Should I Replace The 3 120mm 69CFM fans with these?
http://www.frozencpu.com/fan-157.html