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I hope this hasn't already been posted but an SP3 should be here next year.
http://beta.news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5886274.html
I think this is good news for the many folks who will not run out to by Vista.
shellshock
10-03-05, 05:56 PM
lol, i dont even have sp2, and my comp is SO MUCH faster. its awsome :D
stang8118
10-03-05, 06:12 PM
Any leaks on what sp3 will focus on? I know sp2 was mostly security issues, wonder if sp3 will help out with performance.
Supposedly a dumbed down version of WinFX is going to be included in SP3.
DaWiper
10-03-05, 06:19 PM
My first guess would be some sort of DRM and some more security fixes...
Prolly have features of Windows Vista to entice users to switch maybe?
Captain Newbie
10-03-05, 09:56 PM
SP2 works _okay_, it could be fantastic. Hopefully they'll add some performance updates. But, I fear that they will include their brain-damaged DRM schemes into it. If they do, I won't use it.
Xtreme Barton
10-04-05, 04:27 PM
http://www.thehotfix.net/sp3.html
Xtreme Barton
10-04-05, 04:28 PM
check out the sp3 preview on there too
TollhouseFrank
10-04-05, 04:29 PM
i dont' know why you all are so against SP2. I've never had a problem with it, and in fact, its slightly faster in my experience. (i even gained 100 points on 3dmark by switchin' to it)
Xtreme Barton
10-04-05, 04:30 PM
Laurent Delaporte of Microsoft France said: "Historically, certain functions of new versions of Windows are integrated in the service packs of previous versions."
Mr.Guvernment
10-04-05, 04:35 PM
Download Windows XP SP3 Preview Pack
DOES NOT exist - people are miss labeling anything - NOTHING sp3 is out, no beta's no alpha's nothingggggggg
all these are a fixes that will "likely" be in Sp3, but they are not SP3.
Xtreme Barton
10-04-05, 04:41 PM
DOES NOT exist - people are miss labeling anything - NOTHING sp3 is out, no beta's no alpha's nothingggggggg
all these are a fixes that will "likely" be in Sp3, but they are not SP3.
i think its pretty obvious that they are not sp3.
but these are fixes that are not included in sp2.
and likely is most likely very likely. :beer:
its probably people who follow this very closely. who may or may noy have direct contact with MS.
its a try if you like type thing ..
Fr3@k3r
10-04-05, 05:24 PM
SP3 was posted in a thread i posted earlier...
SP3 is supposed to focus on performance and multimedia updates which include streaming movie, mp3s and other stuff from the upcoming XBOX 360 which will have some MCE addons for xp pro and also some feature addons and updates
Xtreme Barton
10-04-05, 06:04 PM
hard to tell what it will actually focus on ..
probably a little bit of everything..implementing some new features also ..
Mr.Guvernment
10-04-05, 08:20 PM
It will certainly include the windows updates one can get now as almost all SP's are a round up of "hotfixes" released after the last SP.
SP3 is to include features from VISTA - i dont think Xbox....?? that is the first i have heard of that.
Fr3@k3r
10-05-05, 06:55 AM
It will certainly include the windows updates one can get now as almost all SP's are a round up of "hotfixes" released after the last SP.
SP3 is to include features from VISTA - i dont think Xbox....?? that is the first i have heard of that.
i was reading in xbox magazine that the new sp3 fix will include updates to enable xbox 360 streaming from your pc. along with some other media features and such
Mr.Guvernment
10-05-05, 12:29 PM
ahh, k, that could be handy, smart move for MS - make your PC work with your console - out to your TV etc :)
Captain Newbie
10-05-05, 02:01 PM
ahh, k, that could be handy, smart move for MS - make your PC work with your console - out to your TV etc :)
Now, that is cool. Now we're thinking future again :)
So long as they don't cripple it with too much DWM (digital wrong management :D ) we'll be cool.
Mr.Guvernment
10-05-05, 02:51 PM
^^^ i am sure they will try, but it would be nice to stream someothing on you PC to your Xbox then out to your HD 42' plasma tv :) but in a sense te Xbox should be able to do all that on it's own - or just as if the Xbox 360 acts as your "tv card" so to say.
Xtreme Barton
10-05-05, 06:17 PM
Now, that is cool. Now we're thinking future again :)
So long as they don't cripple it with too much DWM (digital wrong management :D ) we'll be cool.
whats your quam with drm ?
just curious...
I assume the Service Pack 3 being refered to in this thead would be for Windows XP.
Captain Newbie
10-05-05, 06:23 PM
whats your quam with drm ?
just curious...
Without talking politics, I'm a firm believer in fair use. I see a lot of DRM (whether it's Microsoft's, Apple's, whomever's) as infringing upon fair use. An additional objection for me is that it will be built into the operating system, adding overhead and potentially crippling your capabilities to manipulate media. Finally, implementing built-in DRM will increase the odds of a company (or association, see also RIAA) being able to look through my files.
I have no pirated music or movies, but that's immaterial. Nobody but me should look through my stuff. That includes OSes and the RIAA and whomever else.
AngelfireUk83
10-06-05, 08:07 PM
So if they do release this it may just be able to make PC's co-exist with X-BOX360 really I reckon maybe secuirty updates which protect the communication from PC to 360 if you have broadband. Sort of like a 360 Firewall or something like that but anyways this will no doubt cause a little bit more slow performance for those people who have SP2 already.
I for one won't install it until it's bug free on installation cause I had major problems with the first release of CD's for SP2.
BigDan3131
10-08-05, 08:30 PM
It seems to be that way with everything these days...rush to put out then add fixes later for stuff they should have done in the first place. Im perfectly happy with SP1,the only thing I had to get was Netframework 1.1 for my gaming needs. Will you need to get the bloated SP2 to add SP3 to your system?
Xtreme Barton
10-08-05, 10:19 PM
It seems to be that way with everything these days...rush to put out then add fixes later for stuff they should have done in the first place. Im perfectly happy with SP1,the only thing I had to get was Netframework 1.1 for my gaming needs. Will you need to get the bloated SP2 to add SP3 to your system?
yeah id like to see you build something flawless ... they not only improve things that they didnt have perfect, but things that people have found ways to manipulate.
they could just say ah screw it... leave it be lets move on to the next thing.. but they dont they spend tons of money to make it better. all for you !!
petteyg359
10-08-05, 11:18 PM
yeah id like to see you build something flawless ... they not only improve things that they didnt have perfect, but things that people have found ways to manipulate.
they could just say ah screw it... leave it be lets move on to the next thing.. but they dont they spend tons of money to make it better. all for you !!
Geez, I hope you're being sarcastic...
BigDan3131
10-09-05, 01:08 PM
The only thing they see is the bottom line. Barton must be a program writer as his words were not sarcastic just assinine.
The only thing they see is the bottom line. Barton must be a program writer as his words were not sarcastic just assinine.
I really don't think there is any call for that type of remark. Everyone is entitled to their opnions.
Xtreme Barton
10-09-05, 01:54 PM
Geez, I hope you're being sarcastic...
um no ..
The only thing they see is the bottom line.
fatuous statement
Barton must be a program writer as his words were not sarcastic just assinine.
again very fatuous
Captain Newbie
10-09-05, 07:46 PM
The only thing they see is the bottom line. Barton must be a program writer as his words were not sarcastic just assinine.
_who_ is They?
(Nice avatar, by the way. :rolleyes: )
Developers look at bottom lines, what the user needs, and what skills/tools they have on hand to solve a problem. We _do_ look at the bottom line, but _not_ exclusively.
fatuous statement
The only thing they see is the bottom line. Barton must be a program writer as his words were not sarcastic just assinine.
Break out the dictionaries and the thesaurus'!
Captain Newbie
10-09-05, 08:34 PM
Break out the dictionaries and the thesaurus'!
Seriously...
For those of us who are Computer Science, Math, or Arts Majors:
Fatuous: 1. Vacuously, smugly, and unconsciously foolish. See Synonyms at foolish.
2. Delusive; unreal: fatuous hopes.
Asinine: 1. Utterly stupid or silly: asinine behavior
Definition 2 is far and away less flattering.
On the thread...There isn't really any way to write perfect software. There is always some set of circumstances that will break the software. Developers take steps towards making the situation better, but it will never be perfect.
Guys, I started this thread to just let everyone know that SP3 was in the works and what we might expect from it. I had no intention of starting a debate about Microsoft. However, people can snipe at MS all they want, I certainly have on ocasion, I just don't think we need to snipe at each other in the process. The thing I have always admired about this forum is how little of that which goes on here compared to other forums. Let's just repect that high standard and each other. Thanks.
(Damn, I just hate myself when I'm this serious!:))
Captain Newbie
10-10-05, 12:33 AM
(Damn, I just hate myself when I'm this serious!:))
Being serious usually isn't fun :)
Lionsault_100
10-10-05, 01:20 AM
got to love the lack of service pack 3 discussion
Mr.Guvernment
10-11-05, 09:27 AM
It seems to be that way with everything these days...rush to put out then add fixes later for stuff they should have done in the first place. Im perfectly happy with SP1,the only thing I had to get was Netframework 1.1 for my gaming needs. Will you need to get the bloated SP2 to add SP3 to your system?
SP3 will have SP2 and SP1 IN it you cant pick and choose what options to install.
There is planey of SP3 discussion - DRM and such above :)
AngelfireUk83
03-07-06, 06:40 PM
Since we'll be seeing Vista soon obviously will be seeing this Service Pack as well any thought of what will be added.
Seven7Thirty30
03-07-06, 06:41 PM
Latest updates show a Summer 2007 release of SP3.
Mr.Guvernment
03-10-06, 01:32 PM
lol, i dont even have sp2, and my comp is SO MUCH faster. its awsome :D
and SO MUCH more seceptable to vulnerabilities. i would say there has been zero speed affect from installing SP2.
Xtreme Barton
03-10-06, 01:56 PM
and SO MUCH more seceptable to vulnerabilities. i would say there has been zero speed affect from installing SP2.
i have to agree. silly if you say sp2 is way slower ...
brakezone
03-10-06, 03:11 PM
:p I wish that the company that built my car would have updates and service packs
Have any of you ever did a side by side comparasion of XP bare, XPSP1 and XPSP2?
XP by itself is fast, almost as fast as W2K. XPSP1 is slower, but fixed a lot of crap. XP2 fixed more stuff but brought back as much of XP's original speed as possible lost in XPSP1. XPSP2 brought some enhancements from W2K3 to bring the speed back. That's why people think SP2 is so fast when infact SP1 made it slow. SP2 also did some prefetch tweaking to have incrediblly fast boottimes.
I swear if MS makes XPSP3 any more for the average joe I'm gonna be really ****ed. First was that stupid filechecker that's incrediblly hard to disable and the thing with the themes. One thing that is gonna be good with SP3 is the new firewall which may actually do something this time since. SP2 has it on by default but it's not full featured enough.
AngelfireUk83
03-10-06, 06:24 PM
They'll be putting things in like Windows Defender probably and maybe IE7 which will probably have a service pack of it's own by then.
Seven7Thirty30
03-13-06, 07:11 PM
:p I wish that the company that built my car would have updates and service packs
If they built cars like computers
1. Every time they repainted the lines on the road you would have to buy a new car.
2. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason, and you would just accept this, restart, and drive on.
3. Occasionally, executing a maneuver would cause your car to stop and fail and you would have to re-install the engine. For some strange reason, you would accept this too.
4. You could only have one person in the car at a time, unless you bought "Car95" or "CarNT". But then you would have to buy more seats.
5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast, twice as easy to drive, but would only run on five percent of the roads.
6. The Macintosh car owners would get expensive Microsoft upgrades to their cars, which would make their cars run much slower.
7. The oil, gas and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single "general car default" warning light.
8. New seats would force everyone to have the same size butt.
9. The airbag system would say, "Are you sure?" before going off.
10. If you were involved in a crash, you would have no idea what happened.
Ha Ha...corny!!!
Super Nade
03-13-06, 09:28 PM
SP2 works _okay_, it could be fantastic. Hopefully they'll add some performance updates. But, I fear that they will include their brain-damaged DRM schemes into it. If they do, I won't use it.
They will, absolutely. No way in hell will I update to SP3. :)
From the hotfix site (don't know if its legit or not)
891122 - Download - Update for Windows Media Digital Rights Management-enabled players
This one takes the cake: :rolleyes:
887822 - Download - Some pre-Service Pack 1 (SP1) hotfixes do not migrate to the SP1 version when you update your computer to Windows XP SP1
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