View Full Version : How far could an XP 1800+ o/c???
LandShark
10-21-01, 12:42 AM
how far do u guys think or heard a XP 1.53G (1800+) could go?? i'm think low to mid 1.7G w/ a good air cooling. am i right??
'cos i'm thinking of getting a XP1800+; however, when i'm upgrading, i would like to have some more boost than just another 100MHz.
Some overclocking results have been posted at 'Athlonoc.com'.
Looks like you get what you pay for with the XP's.
The 1800+ has a real 1800Mhz o/c average (5 tested).
Check it out here. (http://www.athlonoc.com/xpoc_1.php)
oc jason
10-21-01, 09:39 AM
ya id say bot 1800 ould be nice
I've gotten 1702 at 1.85v....:(
I've read that's about average. Skip got his to 1725, right out of the box. A bit more vcore might get me to 1800 or so. (I hope)
(Mine is still multi locked, BTW...)
LandShark
10-21-01, 08:36 PM
well, if i'm gonna upgrade to XP, i'm gonna use the Millenium heatsink, can't bare w/ Delta at all!!
but i''m thinking really mid-low 1.7G at 1.85v is 'bout what it could do most of the time. those high 1.7, even 1.8G, might require either non-air cooling or voltage mod. am i right?!
1.8G would be a nice excuse for me to upgrade it. however, if "only" low-mid 1.7G, i guess i would have to better hold off consider i'm using a 1.56G T-bird. i know, i know, it's still faster than a T-bird even at the same speed. but it's still not enough to justisfy the cost of it right now (around low $200).
tks for u guys' input tho!! ;)
I'm in the same boat as you are. I'm running a 1.2 @ 1400. But I'm not running DDR, that could be another excuse for me.
LandShark
10-21-01, 08:51 PM
well, me too. i'm currently using the KT7a mobo right now. and if i'm upgrading to the XP, i'll definitly go w/ a DDR mobo too. and w/ 2 add together, (a $300+ upgrade), i'd better get a little more than 150-180MHz CPU speed increase!! right?!
look at my sig, my main rig is running at 1.56G, and my second rig is running at 1.07G, a nice 500MHz increase. and when i'm upgrading, i'll put my 1.56G T-bird in place of the 1.07G.
so, i guess i'm gonna hold off for now, at least. not only wait for the XP 1800+ price drop down (1900+ to 2100+ is coming before x'mas!), but also wait for the KT266a mobo be more mature. and don't forget the nForce (hopefully) is around the corner!
just my little thought......:rolleyes:
It's amazing how someone else can think almost exactly like you. Those are my exact reasons, as I am going to wait a little longer also. It's very tempting, and I'm just itching to spend the $300 for the upgrade. What I really want also is to upgrade my GF2 MX 200 to a GF3 Ti200. My wife is not going to like that.
With my t-bird running at 1600 on a 1.1 K77A I don't have any real desire for a DDR palimino. It's just not worth the $$ especially if the palimino is only going to 2ghz. I'm either going to wait untill AMD moves to .13 micron with 333 ddr or maybe the Hammer line.
Now what I need is a new gfx card! Damn they're expensive!
I've got my 1800 running @1725 now, although I seem to be getting lower benches than I would like.
I did unlock the chip, and it has been running stable at 1725 for quite a few days now.
Its air cooled in a mini tower with a cheap hsf and a homemade duct, and 3 cheap aux. fans- cpu temp around 43c/45c.
Maximus Nickus
10-22-01, 04:09 AM
im getting a epox ep-8kha ddr board (with da ew kt266A chipset) and i found either a athlon xp 1800 or a athlon 1400 guarrenteed to a minimum oc to 1533 from ocuk, should i get the athlon xp? i think i should but what sort of speed does the xp run at? is it faster than an athlon of the same speed and why does it say 1800+ not 1800 what does it run at?
EnterTheDragon
10-22-01, 05:07 AM
well...
im running my athlon xp1800 in a case i bought for 39 bucks with PSU, my point is that the PSU is cheap, right now im at 1702, at around 1.85 vcore, im sure i could run lower vcore but the psu is crap, and this way its super stable...the only cooling im using is a 60mm delta on an sk6, the case is open and its at around 43c full load, once i get a new psu im gonna go higher, I also havent touched the multiplier, this chip is swwwwweeet
EnterTheDragon
10-22-01, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by nick_cw
im getting a epox ep-8kha ddr board (with da ew kt266A chipset) and i found either a athlon xp 1800 or a athlon 1400 guarrenteed to a minimum oc to 1533 from ocuk, should i get the athlon xp? i think i should but what sort of speed does the xp run at? is it faster than an athlon of the same speed and why does it say 1800+ not 1800 what does it run at?
with the new tech the mhz reading isnt comparable to tbirds, the xp1800 overperforms a p4 2ghz in many benchmarks
Originally posted by EnterTheDragon
with the new tech the mhz reading isnt comparable to tbirds, the xp1800 overperforms a p4 2ghz in many benchmarks
Yeah....but even a T-bird at 1400 could do that!
XP is better than the T-bird, no question, but I want something that will give me the 50%+ increase i got from upgrading my Duron @1Ghz (I know, I'm a greedy *******).
Thoroughbred, Barton and Hammer cores are all due out next year - I'm gonna wait.
Maximus Nickus
10-22-01, 08:42 AM
will there be a athlon xp faster than the 1800+ out this year? i wanna grab a cpu before 2002 and try to hit over 2000mhz.... dream of 2500mhz wf a geforce 3... wonder what scores you'd get without it being bottlenecked...
LandShark
10-22-01, 01:42 PM
AMD confirmed that there would be a model 2000+ (1.67G) coming out before x'mas. and rumor said that the Palo core probably will max out at a little under 2.0G! 1.8-1.9G most likely!! and that's another reason why i might have to better wait till next spring when the 0.13micron core Throughbred comes out.
for a 2G+, u will need a highend cooling system, e.g. water-cooled. 2.5G?? PIV might be, Palo? no way!
Maximus Nickus
10-22-01, 02:14 PM
should i get this if its around £150? or should i wait and hold fore until nxt year, after all i have a 1gig avia at the moment....
I got an 1800+ and I'm wondering how it will do with my 158W peltier and watercooling setup... Should be sweet :) Probably won't get to it for awhile though since my Tbird system is using that setup right now and I can only power the peltier at 5V until I get my new power unit set up. Has anyone given an XP the freeze treatment yet?
-Rav
LandShark
10-22-01, 02:46 PM
well, i don't know u, but for me, if it'll drop into the low-$100 range, and knowing it'll o/c too at least close to 1.8G, i guess i'll upgrade it. 'cos i don't think my upgrading bug could stand till next spring!:cool: and to wait for a little while, who knows, we might find a stepping similar to the AYHJA T-bird that really worth for!!
LandShark
10-22-01, 02:48 PM
i had seen on other forum (IrconticForum?!) that there's more than a couple guys water cooling or/plus pletier the Palo and clocked at the mid1.8G-almost 2G range!!
killem1x1
10-22-01, 02:50 PM
My 1800+ is still locked, but it runs very, very well on a FSB overclock. Loads of people are stating that they are not going to upgrade from a t'bird 1.4 to a 1.53 pally becasue of the exisitng overclock they have. My feeling are that you should not really consider your overclock when determining the upgrade. Sure you can get a feeling of what the chip will do, but you should really base your opinion on what it is rated to do. Please don't spend that kind of money and take a chance of being disappointed. I am running high 1600's with the 1800+. I am running a higher overclock on my other 1.4 'bird system, but my Seti times are faster on the pally along with what actually "feels" more stable. Both run stable, don't get me wrong. I don't know if anyone else gets what I'm saying, but the pally is more "stable" at higher speeds.
EnterTheDragon
10-22-01, 03:51 PM
after playing UT and running SETI@home for over 5 hours my temps at 44c highest with only an sk6 and a 60mm delta and the side of the case off
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