Are these high temps for 1.4 OC'd to 1.533?

[Qualtran]

I just put together a nice new AMD sytem, and it seems to run smoothly. The only thing that worries me a little is the fact that my processor runs right around 64 degrees celcius without any load, and only a degree or so higher with a full load., and over time seems to be getting hotter. I purchased good cooling equipment and a powerful fan, so any idea why these temps are so high, or are they in a normal range?
Thanks,
Qualtran

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My system:
AMD 1.4 Overclocked to 1.533
Globalwin WBK38 Heatsink w/ 7000 rpm fan and artic silver thermal paste
Antec Server Case w/ 350w psu
4 80mm Case fans @3500+rpm (2 bottom front, 2 upper back)
Frequency 11.5 * FSB 133
Voltage 1.85
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-7DXR
512 MB Micron PC2100 DDR Ram
Hercules 3D Prophet Kyro II 4500 64mb video card
40GB IBM 60GXP 7200 rpm
60GB IBM 75GXP 7200 rpm
40GB Maxtor 7200 rpm
30GB Maxtor 5400 rpm
CDR Drive

[Big Mike]

Definately running too warm, I'd suggest reseating the heatsink, also make sure you're only using a VERY thin layer of paste

[Tobes]

This definitely seems high, particularly for the cooler you're using.

My 1.4 is at 1600 (11x146) at the moment and idles in the low 40's with a less efficient HSF.

Assuming the HSF has been mounted correctly, I'd be checking your case ventilation was working properly.

Heaps of fans aren't necessary. Often fans all over the place only results in air recirculating in the case.

My case has just one additional 80mm rear fan with only a finger guard fitted to ensure the least air restriction.
I have enlarged the holes at the bottom front to allow adequate air to enter (this can make an enormous difference).

[-Exi|e-]

64c is quite high. My 1.4Ghz runs at 48.2c Max load and idles at 40.6c, so you might wanna chk your heatsink so that its on properly. BTW i have a swiftech 370 made of aluminum so your temps should be around mine.

[xMephistoNx]

Hi, i have the same chip and same cooler as you.
My chip idles at about 61 and hits 65 under load.

I think its the global win cooler, or mabye the new athlons just run hot as hell.
Mine isnt overclocked either.

[bisyfxn]

I had that cpu cooler before i got my sk6 and the bottom of the cooler i had wasen't flat at all.I had to lap it quite a bit to get it flat and my temps went way down.Im not saying that is what's wrong with yours but i would check it to be sure.
Mike

[xMephistoNx]

No your right. I noticed that before when i installed the cooler, the bottom isnt that smooth. Well, global win are cheap, and you get what you pay for. I got a swifttech in the mail though, hopefull yit shows up tomorow. Mabye if i get a second global win cooler they could cool my v5. Not sure if they can even handle that though.

[Thelemac]

Originally posted by xMephistoNx
No your right. I noticed that before when i installed the cooler, the bottom isnt that smooth. Well, global win are cheap, and you get what you pay for. I got a swifttech in the mail though, hopefull yit shows up tomorow. Mabye if i get a second global win cooler they could cool my v5. Not sure if they can even handle that though.

They're decent coolers, especially if you lap them.

*Moved to "Cooling"*

[Qualtran]

Thanks everyone for replying so promptly. I tried resetting the heatsink, and cleaning everything and making sure everything was smooth, but still runs really hot. 58C idle, 64C full load. The heatsink itself seems to be really hot. The flow of air is good inside my system because the temp inside is usually right at room temperature. I'm considering getting rid of the globalwin and going with something new. Maybe someting made of copper. But my system is damn stable, so even though its hot, it seems to work allright. Thanks again,
Qualtran:cool:

[rUfUnKy]

Originally posted by Qualtran
Thanks everyone for replying so promptly. I tried resetting the heatsink, and cleaning everything and making sure everything was smooth, but still runs really hot. 58C idle, 64C full load. The heatsink itself seems to be really hot. The flow of air is good inside my system because the temp inside is usually right at room temperature. I'm considering getting rid of the globalwin and going with something new. Maybe someting made of copper. But my system is damn stable, so even though its hot, it seems to work allright. Thanks again,
Qualtran:cool:
like mentioned above you could try lapping it.if your case is staying around room temps and your cpu is that hot there is something wrong.However if you deside to get a new heatsink the sk6 is a well made copper heatsink at a affordable price.

[oc jason]

again way too high as try to set HS correctly if is isint, and apply paste correctly

[ve6jhc]

What program is the CPU/Temp/Volt data taken from?

[xMephistoNx]

Im using the one that came with my MB. Right now my cpu is at 61 degrees and 1.823 Volts.

Just a thought here, my motherboards thermal probe actually touches the cpu, so that would be a pretty accurate reading, what kind of probes do most other athlon mb's use ?

[Microsoft]

get a zalman 5000 and some AS

i idle around 26-27C and toped out at 33C full load cause my temps in the room rose after they bath

[Qualtran]

Hello,
I tried reinstalling the heatsink once again, after reading a bunch of online guides. I ended up following the instructions on the Arctic Silver II website. I cleaned the heatsink and the cpu thoroughly as per the specifications on their site, then applied the Arctic Silver thermal paste in the quantity and method they described. I put everything back in my system, and the heatsink seemed to have pretty good contact with the CPU (although its a bit impossible to see just how good contact is once installed in the motherboard). I booted up hoping I might finally see some lower temperatures, but... 57-63C Range still!!! :mad: Maybe my motherboard (Gigabyte GA-7DXR) likes to keep things real hot. Well, I included pics of the program I use to see the CPU temp. The reading comes from a thermometer under my CPU. thanks again for all the help,
Qualtran

[Tobes]

Maybe the probe is just making an inaccurate reading.

Or maybe your heatsink base isn't perfectly flat so contact with the CPU core is compromised.
As suggested above, lapping the HS base will fix this.

[oc jason]

Originally posted by ve6jhc
What program is the CPU/Temp/Volt data taken from?

It is called Motherboard Monitor 5, and it is free and customizable for evert board, fan, cpu. It jus uses the onboard mobo sensors and all you do is rename the feilds, say from Glaciator to Sk6, or cpu HS, or whatever you want

[ve6jhc]

I know MBM...I had version 4 now I see that they have version 5 out. A little different user interface. Have you tried the auto shut down addin? Seems like some cheap insurance against fan failure.

[Geobronc]

The 1.4 processors run a lot hotter it seems than the 1.33's

[Tobes]

Voltage is a big issue with heat.

If you can get a good overclock at the standard voltage you will be much better off heatwise.
The jump from 1.75V to 1.85V will add about 10W to the thermal output of a T-bird (according to the 'Radiate' program).

In this respect the 1.4 is a good bet because it will usually be selected from the best of the 'batch'.
I'd say you have a greater chance of getting a good overclock at standard voltage with the 1.4.
I wonder if those with heat problems are needlessly pumping the voltage to 1.85 (or higher).
Mine is perfectly stable at 1600 and I may experiment with dropping the voltage below 1.75.

[Qualtran]

If you drop the voltage, however, doesn't that render your overclock attempt useless due to the fact that you are indeed using less power to supply an overclocked chip?

[Tobes]

Originally posted by Qualtran
If you drop the voltage, however, doesn't that render your overclock attempt useless due to the fact that you are indeed using less power to supply an overclocked chip?

I don't quite understand what you mean.

Assuming my chip is 100% stable at 1.70V ( I don't know BTW), why would this make the overclock attempt useless???

The idea should be to get the maximum desired OC with the least amount of voltage necessary to ensure 100% stability.

Anything else is just making problems for yourself.

Of course if you use water/peltier etc, the extra heat may not matter.
With air, extra cooling is a noise issue (for me), so I go for the lowest 100% stable voltage.

[Qualtran]

I see what you mean, I was just thinking that if you dont supply an oc'd chip with enough voltage, it will not run properly (it will be underpowered).