View Full Version : Crossfire UP AND RUNNING!!!!
mikeguava
10-16-05, 01:22 PM
Running Asus P5WD2 and X850 crossfire Mastercard and slave card as I am typing - NICE!!!!!!!!
:drool: Go get em, Mike! :thup:
Son1990
10-16-05, 01:25 PM
Nice! Post some scores/benchmarks!
9mmCensor
10-16-05, 01:30 PM
Pictures?
Have you tried any games yet? What kind of fps are you getting?
stereo555
10-16-05, 01:44 PM
Pics , benchies , info , ... give us MORE MORE MORE !!!! :santa:
screwtech02
10-16-05, 01:44 PM
WOOT! That rocks man... Benches please?? Did you have to flash to the 519 bios???
mikeguava
10-16-05, 02:04 PM
Pictures and benches coming in a little while - just in the middle of editing bios to get the clocks up...no OCtool works right now...
First run was a measly 8888 points in 3DMark05, but things should get fun by the end of the night...
cooper15
10-16-05, 04:19 PM
um is it me or does 8888 in 05 seem really low for crossfire. i mean i read on this forum that a guy with a crossfire edition card got 7400 in 05 and barely oced
chr0nicles
10-16-05, 04:21 PM
Overclock Plz :)
Alchemy1
10-16-05, 04:39 PM
I can't wait to see more :)
mikeguava
10-16-05, 04:39 PM
um is it me or does 8888 in 05 seem really low for crossfire. i mean i read on this forum that a guy with a crossfire edition card got 7400 in 05 and barely oced
that was me ... but with a FX57 - If I'd throw that in it will easily go over 10K - again this was just a bone run with zero tweaks and overclocks.
Problem is I haven't been able to OC the card yet - none of the tools work. I am trying to hack into the bios to change the clocks but no dice as of now.
koontz946
10-16-05, 04:58 PM
put the fx57 back in!!
speed bump
10-16-05, 08:29 PM
Hes running Intel, hence the P5wd2 which happens to be one of the few motherboard that supports crosfire and is available right now.
However I would have to say heck with an FX-57 put in a 670 ;)
do new ati drivers support crossfire or soemthing!?!
that was me ... but with a FX57 - If I'd throw that in it will easily go over 10K - again this was just a bone run with zero tweaks and overclocks.
Problem is I haven't been able to OC the card yet - none of the tools work. I am trying to hack into the bios to change the clocks but no dice as of now.
:bang head
Not even Overdrive works?
mikeguava
10-16-05, 11:03 PM
nope overdrive doesn't work yet - just edited a bios and still have a bit of trouble
10k for this moment - but lots more later tonight
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1329874
put the fx57 back in!!
tried that - but no dice yet - I believe once someone hacks into Cat control center it could work - to unlock crossfire and overdrive...
DFI NF4 SLI sees both cards - but the option doesn't show up to enable overdrive. I might be wrong - but I have a feeling it's all in the driver...
awsome Mike, can you post up some pictures of the setup and such? I'm thinking of moving my Red system for Crossfire too. :)
mikeguava
10-17-05, 04:29 AM
just a bench setup - so not in a system.. will post some pics later.
12k for now - ok considering no vmods have been done to the card and cards on air... clocks were 600 on core / 648 on memory
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1330328
Nexus Realized
10-17-05, 04:41 AM
Lookin' good Mike.
BTW I never really payed any attention to SLI setup's but what were say...two 6800GT's getting in 05'?
scooter787b
10-17-05, 08:02 AM
10,000 up to 14,000(shamino and sampsa :-/)
Nexus Realized
10-17-05, 09:43 AM
Well considering he's still on Air, and no volt modding etc...I'd say 12K is pretty damn good.
Mr.Guvernment
10-17-05, 11:32 AM
^^ exactly.
El<(')>Maxi
10-17-05, 12:59 PM
Nice score Mike, when X1800XT hits you'll have a head start on Crossfire with this board.
I don't think that even the brand new Cat 5.11 drivers technically support the new X1800 series yet. I would bet money on lots more performance with these new cards as driver support catches up.
Janus67
10-17-05, 01:22 PM
very interesting, im curious as to what else you can get out of it.
Blackmage
10-17-05, 03:50 PM
I don't think that even the brand new Cat 5.11 drivers technically support the new X1800 series yet. I would bet money on lots more performance with these new cards as driver support catches up.
nice to see you out of the Cpu section :)
Chrome-
10-17-05, 05:49 PM
I can't wait to see the benches and pictures.
RangerXLT8
10-17-05, 07:56 PM
Aww man this is good stuff, I envy you. How many watts is the whole setup pulling? I can imagine this is when the umff of PC Power & Cooling 510w will shine.
It's tempting to buy a x800 mastercard just for the sake of running crossfire, but I'm buying X1800 real soon. I want to see 2 x1800 in crossfire, that's what I'm eventually gonna get when the crossfire x1800 cards come out.
Lookin' good Mike.
BTW I never really payed any attention to SLI setup's but what were say...two 6800GT's getting in 05'?
The world record for 6800Ultras is 14,623 by Shamino. The X850 record is 15,498 by Macci way pre-release. Both scores were done with extremely exotic cooling, but the X8xx's have always had an edge over the 6800's in 3DMark, so its no surprise that two of them keep the same advantage.
speed bump
10-17-05, 11:21 PM
^^^except 03 there you can't take anything away from Nvidia considering until K|ngp|n came along with a ton of dothan power and took down shaminos single card record 03 record which he held with a 6800U, P4 EE, and Abit AA8xe.
mikeguava
10-17-05, 11:34 PM
so far I can see 13k to maybe 14k pretty easily with some better clocks on the cards and a tweaked system.
I am not sure how the P5WD2 handles the PCI-E lanes - But I am prety sure I was runing 16x/4x .
This could - again could - have also potentially slowed my system down.
Another thing to consider I am certain that the CF boards will be also be a bit faster than the 955X chipset- we should find out about the soon enough...
That I was able to run CF I don't think was supposed to be possible - the drivers that cames with the CF card would not allow it. Only using the latest ATI enabled CF.
I am certain next driver in itself will give a huge boost, and if Asus comes out with a bios that allows the distribute the PCI-E lanes t 8x/8x lanes it should give another bump.
Like in 780GTX sli, it is very key to have a FAST cpu - otherwise you scores will be way down.
Jum from 9k to 12k was all in the CPU clocks - and my system wasn't dialed in at all - I was actually doing CPU and running CF becnhes along - mainly focusing on CPU clocks without running a tight memory / tweak system setup - which would have been good for another 500points easily.
Memory bandwidth also helps scores - better to run huge FSB and looser timings than super tight - well that's a given...
The PQ is very good - eyecandy like we're used from ATI - only when the XP intitally starts up do you see some some flickering - i assume to sync the cards - that will also happen with resolution changes.
I think that X850XT CF is a very viable product - as long as you have a very fast CPU and already own a X850XT along with ecoupon from ATI which gives you $100 off ( anyone who purchased a crossifre ready card retail in the past few months can get this).
at a price of $249 ( $299 currently but not much longer..) That for the master card is a great deal.
Otherwise i'd look at some other cards.....
so far I can see 13k to maybe 14k pretty easily with some better clocks on the cards and a tweaked system.
I am not sure how the P5WD2 handles the PCI-E lanes - But I am prety sure I was runing 16x/4x .
This could - again could - have also potentially slowed my system down.
Another thing to consider I am certain that the CF boards will be also be a bit faster than the 955X chipset- we should find out about the soon enough...
That I was able to run CF I don't think was supposed to be possible - the drivers that cames with the CF card would not allow it. Only using the latest ATI enabled CF.
I am certain next driver in itself will give a huge boost, and if Asus comes out with a bios that allows the distribute the PCI-E lanes t 8x/8x lanes it should give another bump.
Like in 780GTX sli, it is very key to have a FAST cpu - otherwise you scores will be way down.
Jum from 9k to 12k was all in the CPU clocks - and my system wasn't dialed in at all - I was actually doing CPU and running CF becnhes along - mainly focusing on CPU clocks without running a tight memory / tweak system setup - which would have been good for another 500points easily.
Memory bandwidth also helps scores - better to run huge FSB and looser timings than super tight - well that's a given...
The PQ is very good - eyecandy like we're used from ATI - only when the XP intitally starts up do you see some some flickering - i assume to sync the cards - that will also happen with resolution changes.
I think that X850XT CF is a very viable product - as long as you have a very fast CPU and already own a X850XT along with ecoupon from ATI which gives you $100 off ( anyone who purchased a crossifre ready card retail in the past few months can get this).
at a price of $249 ( $299 currently but not much longer..) That for the master card is a great deal.
Otherwise i'd look at some other cards.....
When you say fast CPU, what do you ahve in mind, would a 650 @4G be fast enough or are we still talking a bottle neck ?
mikeguava
10-18-05, 01:12 PM
4GHZ gave me 10200 points ( but slow FSB - might have been a huge factor)- while 5.5GHZ gave me 12400 points
Maybe I should phrase it a bit different - a fast CPU will allow you much higher FPS - I believe the cpu power helps the CF rendering a lot.
One thing always to consider - I am not sure whether I running the perfect driver / bios combo - there could be a ot more potential in this combo.
I really didn't spend enough time to fully figure out what is going what when and where, but I am planning on having some more quality time this weekend...
screwtech02
10-20-05, 06:58 PM
Any more luck with this Mike???
IWasHungry
10-20-05, 07:09 PM
Ah I see, the CPU is the bottleneck. That kind of stinks; you can't tell the true performance of Crossfire like that. :(
Still though, I'm impressed. Getting a Mastercard in the future is definetly an option for X850 owners like me.
Tomatosaurus[RE
10-20-05, 10:53 PM
Getting a Mastercard in the future is definetly an option for X850 owners like me.
I want a Mastercard too, with phat credit so I can buy many FX57's. :santa:
;)
mikeguava
10-21-05, 12:36 AM
I want a Mastercard too, with phat credit so I can buy many FX57's. :santa:
;)
Crossfire & FX57 are finally ready to go... unfortunately no dice available in Miami atm ( thanks to Wilma...) - cards undergoing surgery...something might happen soon...
hyperasus
10-22-05, 02:39 AM
How difficult is it to enable/disable crossfire? Do you have any other monitors you could plug in to test how difficult it is to go from crossfire to multiscreen and back to crossfire. Do you have to use one of those DVI Y’s to plug your screen in to both cards? Are there any bios settings that have to be changed to go in and out of crossfire?
ViperJohn
10-22-05, 04:33 AM
^^^except 03 there you can't take anything away from Nvidia considering until K|ngp|n came along with a ton of dothan power and took down shaminos single card record 03 record which he held with a 6800U, P4 EE, and Abit AA8xe.
You can't use 3DM03 to compare NV anything to any other video card. The driver are so heavily and specificlly optimised to score in that benchmark the scores are worthless.
Viper
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