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screwtech02
10-25-05, 12:24 PM
So, is it me, or is the whole Crossfire thing already overated?? Havent seen anything posted worth-while to convince me otherwise... Only thing i can see it benifiting, is that it works on the Intel chipsets... Not to mention there seems to be a whole lot of driver issues currently... Thought that ATI would have gotten thier act together before releasing the master cards...

Not flaming anything here guys, just kinda dissapointed in the whole deal...

Rattle
10-25-05, 12:34 PM
So, is it me, or is the whole Crossfire thing already overated?? Havent seen anything posted worth-while to convince me otherwise... Only thing i can see it benifiting, is that it works on the Intel chipsets... Not to mention there seems to be a whole lot of driver issues currently... Thought that ATI would have gotten thier act together before releasing the master cards...

Not flaming anything here guys, just kinda dissapointed in the whole deal...


Dunno to me honestly the whole 2 card thing is a waste of money IMHO, although I prefer nvidia the last 2 generations, when it comes to 2 cards if the ATI's can indeed work effectivly in everything without the hassle of configs and game profiles like nvidia, if the performance is equal then crossfire will surely have the advantage in gaming over SLI, becuase it will automatically work with all games from what I understand.

deathman20
10-25-05, 12:46 PM
Ya the whole crossfire thing is suppose to be easy to use for any 3d application using both cards. Since there hasn't been much word out on this or master cards to go with the standard ones to do it. And I think the drivers due out this coming month is the one where we could start seeing support for the Crossfires in the drivers.

TheGreySpectre
10-25-05, 04:39 PM
meh I havent really paid much attention as 2 cards seems pointless to me unless you have $1000 to spend on videocards

deathman20
10-25-05, 06:08 PM
I wouldn't get 2 cards maybe later in its life but defintalty not right off the bat.

JU571N
10-25-05, 08:24 PM
x800gto2 > x850xt + x850 crossfire isn't too expensive. From what I saw in the x1800xt reviews the x850's in crossfire did better than the 7800GTX. You may pay $100 more or so, but you get a lot out of it.

This is if you already have a crossfire compatable mobo, such as the p5wd2.

I'm planning on selling my x800xt pe and buying a x800gto2 (flashing to x850xt) and a DFI crossfire mobo (unless the sapphire board comes out soon), then picking up a x850 crossfire master card a few months later. Is it going to be the fastest setup out there? Not even close, but I do like playing with new stuff, so it's worth it to me.

RangerXLT8
10-25-05, 08:41 PM
Wait untill X1800 CrossFire is released, then you'll see some results. The new cards are designed to better operate in crossfire.......CrossFire is more compatible as far as chisepts go, and game wise. Almsot all 3d games will benefit from cossfire. IMO Sli cannot compete with CrossFire in an all around way. That's jsut my opinion though.

screwtech02
10-31-05, 12:20 PM
So, i havent seen any "substancial" results here on the forum of guys running the 850 series in Crossfire... Then we have "another" wait for the x1800xt master cards, and even the regular xt's... Then we have the whole "testing" deal on the 955x chipset... Is this EVER going to end, i mean really??? Why release a product, then have crap support for drivers, ect... It's getting really weak....

{PMS}fishy
10-31-05, 12:37 PM
IMO Sli cannot compete with CrossFire in an all around way. That's jsut my opinion though.

How can you compare something that doesn't even exist, outside of reviews and early samples?

Yeormom
10-31-05, 12:45 PM
How can you compare something that doesn't even exist, outside of reviews and early samples?

True story.

deception``
10-31-05, 12:45 PM
Wait untill X1800 CrossFire is released, then you'll see some results. The new cards are designed to better operate in crossfire.......CrossFire is more compatible as far as chisepts go, and game wise. Almsot all 3d games will benefit from cossfire. IMO Sli cannot compete with CrossFire in an all around way. That's jsut my opinion though.

Admittedly, your opinions hold a lot of bias, so they may not be the most objective (or appropriate, for that matter) in the world.

I'd agree that Crossifre can have some promise; however, SLI is more than a viable competitor to Crossifre. Not only has it available now, but it has also fixed many of it's early problems through it's countless driver updates (such as mixed-vendor compatibility). The main issue with SLI is that it current has some issues with Intel chipsets, but the real truth is that Intel users currently do not represent the majority enthusiasts demanding dual-GPU technology.

Before you complain about this, take in mind that ATI has abysmal Linux performance compared to NVIDIA. Their driver performance has lagged for quite some time, but I assume part of that is because Windows is a much larger market.

Anyhow, the point is that it's erroneous of you (or anyone for that matter) to say that a readily-available, mature technology like SLI cannot compete with one that is still very much shrouded in mystery.

At least, Crossfire has a ways to go to be even as practical or popular as SLI.

deception``

screwtech02
11-03-05, 07:57 PM
Soooooooo, does anybody have any "hard" evidence that shows me why i should "hold-out" for the whole crossfire thing??? I could just get 2 7800gt's in SLI, and be done with the whole multi-GPU thing by now....

deception``
11-03-05, 07:59 PM
Soooooooo, does anybody have any "hard" evidence that shows me why i should "hold-out" for the whole crossfire thing??? I could just get 2 7800gt's in SLI, and be done with the whole multi-GPU thing by now....

If you're a diehard fan, you might want to wait for Crossfire. Otherwise, SLI is already available, much more mature, and there are many more SLI-capable motherboards (assuming this will be for an AMD system).

deception``

RangerXLT8
11-03-05, 10:38 PM
Soooooooo, does anybody have any "hard" evidence that shows me why i should "hold-out" for the whole crossfire thing??? I could just get 2 7800gt's in SLI, and be done with the whole multi-GPU thing by now....

Nope, if you want multi-gpu now go buy SLi, I'll wait for x1800 crossfire to come out.

speed bump
11-04-05, 12:23 AM
When the x850xt pe crossfire master gets to be nice and cheap then I will think about considering I will already have a P5wd2 and an x850xt pe but right now its just to much vaporware and not enough hard evidence.

screwtech02
11-04-05, 07:42 PM
Vaporware, now thats what i'm talkin about, no "hard" evidence......

BloodbathMK
11-04-05, 11:23 PM
your rights SLI and crossfire are retarded, besides the actual market for 2 300-500 dollar cards is very slim, ATI and nvidia should focus on better single gpus or maybe more dual core gpus.

screwtech02
12-04-05, 02:52 PM
So, now that the x1800xt crossfire cards are out, has anybody here took the "leap of faith" and gotten a crossfire setup going???


http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190538


Unless this is just a regular non-master crossfire card????

deathman20
12-04-05, 02:55 PM
So, now that the x1800xt crossfire cards are out, has anybody here took the "leap of faith" and gotten a crossfire setup going???


http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190538


Unless this is just a regular non-master crossfire card????

Looks like a normal XT card.

RangerXLT8
12-05-05, 08:02 PM
Crossfire X800 cards are available on NewEgg for 265.00 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102639)

screwtech02
12-06-05, 11:58 AM
The whole thing that burns me is that there are no solid reviews of the touted "crossfire" compairing Ati's soulution to the Nvidia SLI... I got tired of waiting for ATI to get there act together in a timley fashion.. (which they STILL have yet to do) Got a 32 pipe intel sli board, and 2 7800gt's.... Would have liked to have gone the ATI route, but no hard numbers/proof of performance, and the SLOW release times of the products pointed me in the Nvidia direction...

Nexus Realized
12-06-05, 12:02 PM
Crossfire X800 cards are available on NewEgg for 265.00 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102639)

Ranger, do you know of any reviews comparing an X800 CF setup to a comparable SLI setup?

deathman20
12-06-05, 12:04 PM
The X1800XT's have crossfire cards are close. There is a few over at XS that has some of the cards. But there under NDA and can't show any numbers currently.

RangerXLT8
12-06-05, 10:39 PM
Ranger, do you know of any reviews comparing an X800 CF setup to a comparable SLI setup?

Negative.

I'm just waiting for X1800Crossfire to come out... I have everything I need, P5WD2-Premium, PC Power & Cooling 510w Express and X1800XL.......