View Full Version : Silly Puddy with trace tape for the XP L1 Bridges!?!
Clean_Baldy
10-22-01, 04:23 PM
Heres a thought. Just put silly puddy into the laser cut Pits of doom! then use trace tape across.... easier than superglue... but will it work?
cowanrg
10-22-01, 04:28 PM
maybe, but quite frankly, the pits are VERY VERY VERY small. i doubt silly putty would work because its just too thick.
also, silly putty just might fry, and make a nice smell/mess.
im just waiting for someeone to make the ingenious idea of making a trace tape in this shape:
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they could make trace tape in the shape of a bracket, you wouldnt need to fill the pits, the tape would just bypass the pits... that would be great. you could use trace tape, AND, not have to mess with the pits.
Clean_Baldy
10-22-01, 04:30 PM
good point about the heat... hmmm... i've been pondering all day on what i could use that would be quick and easy to put into the holes. i just hate using superglue... its too quick and a pain in the ass if you mess up.
unless of course, you do put the two pieces of tape across the leads, and just superglue all the way across, and then just leave it mounded up and use the trace tape that way....
what a pain in the butt!
maybe i'll spend the extra 100 for a 1800 MP! unlocked already
Thelemac
10-22-01, 05:00 PM
Maybe you could just connect the traces with conductive ink or the rear window defogger kit like that. Anybody want to try that?
cowanrg
10-22-01, 05:16 PM
eh? explain more. im interested...
SickBoy
10-22-01, 10:40 PM
Well, I think the issue is that if you just fill those pits with conductive material, that you're shorting something and some of the multipliers dont work. I think spackle might work good, but thats just my opinion.
Clean_Baldy
10-22-01, 11:34 PM
I saw a post earlier on someones idea about filling the pits with super glue then using a rear defroster repair kit for a car to do the job. well... what about just filling the holes with something other than superglue. I find superglue to be a pain in the ass to work with... makes a mess... dries to quickly, and damnit, it makes my fingers stick together!
So, lets come up with some alternative products.
we have spackle. might be good, but for a job this small, seems like an awful waste of time to set it up.
silly puddy. May have problems with 100*F+ not sure. Would be pretty easy to work with though.
Super glue. Pain in the butt, but has worked already. Just takes a little time/patience/steady hand
how about just taping a piece of paper across the PITS with scotch tape at each end
* * * * *
========
* * * * *
and then using some conductive tape to go across the paper which is covering the pits!?
I havent done any of these, but i just thought of covering the pits with a piece of paper, so that the conductive tape couldnt go into them. seems like a good idea.
any other ideas?
I plan on getting an Xp in the near future, I was thinking of using silicone sealant to fill the pits. I have used it for many other things and it's very easy to work with. If you put tape across the contacts, then put the silicone in, you should be all good. It's real easy to clean if you mess up. The only downside is it takes like 20 min+ to dry.
Fiz
Clean_Baldy
10-23-01, 10:30 AM
Good idea. You're talking about caulk, right?
Heres an easy way to do it:
Cover the contacts with tape, and make sure to get it right. use a microscope afterwards to make sure you did it right. Its important work, and you need the whole contact visible for a good good connection. DONT do a half aZZ job.
After this is done, take some of the silicone sealant, and put it on a piece of paper. You wont need much. Keep the sealant handy, because while you are working on one pit, you're silicone might dry on the paper. You could use a toothpick to fill the pit, and make sure you fill the entire pit Wipe it flat while its still wet with a piece of paper, but dont push too hard, or you may move the tape. Silicone is easy to use, so i dont think you'll have a problem.
After this is done, Just wait for it to dry. Give it a good hour, just to make sure, and check it over to make sure that you filled the pits! If you didnt, you could short out your Chip and say Bye Bye.
Tools to use:
Microscope/Magnifying Lense....
sponge(to put the cpu on while you work, and so it doesnt move)....
a good light source....
toothpick, pin, whatever you prefer....
razor blade(to scrape the dry silicone flat if it is mounding or causing a problem).....
silicone sealant...
a piece of paper, wax paper would be good for this...
scotch tape....
the CPU, duh.....
whatever method of connecting the contacts you want to use (trace tape, defroster repair kit)...
Good Luck!
Why not just put a thin piece of electrical tape on the sticky side of a piece of trace tape? Or put it down in the pits. It cant be any harder to fill the pits with tape than with superglue, and it's much easier to make corrections.
nihili
Clean_Baldy
10-23-01, 10:44 AM
not a bad idea... but you'd have to have the steadiest hand alive to do it right! If you can do it, send a screenshot... but I doubt i'll be seeing that screenshot anytime soon :)
killem1x1
10-23-01, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by nihili
Why not just put a thin piece of electrical tape on the sticky side of a piece of trace tape? Or put it down in the pits. It cant be any harder to fill the pits with tape than with superglue, and it's much easier to make corrections.
nihili
That sounds like a good idea. I haven't done anything yet, because I'm not going to use superglue, or anything else that can't be cleaned off, electrical tape, and trace tape, hmmm.
cowanrg
10-23-01, 10:46 AM
if someone tells me where to get trace tape cheap, let me know. i will do this as soon as i get my trace tape in! wow, what a great idea. way to think outside the box... and its not permanent.
I have always prefered Epoxy any time that I could use super glue. Epoxy is thicker and dries slower (I use 15 minute) so if you have an unsteady hand and accidently touch something that didnt need glue on it you can easily wipe it off. I think that is what I will try (if I ever get an XP).
Originally posted by Clean_Baldy
not a bad idea... but you'd have to have the steadiest hand alive to do it right! If you can do it, send a screenshot... but I doubt i'll be seeing that screenshot anytime soon :)
Send me an XP and I'll get right on it. ;) I'll even spring for the trace tape. :)
But why would my hand have to be any steadier with tape than with glue or sealant?
nihili
cowanrg
10-23-01, 10:58 AM
if someone tells me where to buy some trace tape, ill definately try it.
i have reallly steedy handws. ;)
ToeKneeATX
10-23-01, 02:40 PM
i dunno about you guys but i used clear nail polish to fill in the holes and a conductive pen to connect the bridges.... works great so far... i can use 9.5 - 12.5 multipliers.... when i use 14 & 15 it gives me a speed of like 667, i think i have to reconnect the last l1....
tools used:
clear nail polish
tweezers
scotch tape
conductive pen
thx to amd extreme performance tour for the free xp 1.53 (1662 12.5x133)
killem1x1
10-23-01, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by ToeKneeATX
i dunno about you guys but i used clear nail polish to fill in the holes and a conductive pen to connect the bridges.... works great so far... i can use 9.5 - 12.5 multipliers.... when i use 14 & 15 it gives me a speed of like 667, i think i have to reconnect the last l1....
tools used:
clear nail polish
tweezers
scotch tape
conductive pen
thx to amd extreme performance tour for the free xp 1.53 (1662 12.5x133)
Would you be able to "clean it up" if it didn't work? I mean, could you "clean it up" enough to RMA it if you had to?
ToeKneeATX
10-23-01, 03:57 PM
i dunno if i'd be able to clean up the conductive pen, but i'm sure u can remove the nail polish with nail polish remover.... to be honest i really didn't think about whether it would work or not... =) but i'm glad it did!
cowanrg
10-23-01, 04:31 PM
hum, im gonna stick with trying to make custom trace tape patches for the XP chips...
minoukat
10-23-01, 04:50 PM
what's trace tape ?
Im a little confused...
I thought there was a ditch where the "laser" had cut but the contacts are still there?
Now im not sure what this ditch looks like...
Someone have a pic?
LutaWicasa
10-23-01, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Angry
Im a little confused...
I thought there was a ditch where the "laser" had cut but the contacts are still there?
Now im not sure what this ditch looks like...
Someone have a pic?
Yeah. Look on the front page. There's an article about doing this with superglue(which I gather ya'll are trying to stay away from), but it has pics.
cowanrg
10-23-01, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by minoukat
what's trace tape ?
trace tape is basically conductive tape.
its really a big patch of tape that you put on your chip, to cover the L1 bridges, and when lined up, it connects the L1's.
here is a pic:
http://www.plycon.com/trace.htm
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