View Full Version : 7800GTX 512mb to beat ATI to consumers by 7 days.
{PMS}fishy
11-04-05, 03:17 PM
Its pretty much offical. Nvidia will have the 512mb GTX out on the 14th. Which is a whole week before the date the x1800xt has been pushed back to.
With 1.1ns ram rummored to be clocked up to 909mhz or 1818 for you DDR people, expect to see ATI take a serious butt kicking.
Core clocks will range between 550 and 580 depending on who is making it, and this is a different PCB than the GTX. Its really an Ultra, just keeping the GTX name.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27443
RedDragonXXX
11-04-05, 03:24 PM
Yep, XT's will pretty much get pawned by these. Just can't imagine the core clocks if Nvidia decided to do these on 90nm cores like they originally planned for so called 7800Ultra.
I sort of feel bad for ATI :-/
The sad part is that its no surprise.
marscay
11-04-05, 05:49 PM
even sadder for my wallet
xTrEmEoVrClOcKr
11-04-05, 05:56 PM
Im sure one of manufacturers will push 600mhz core clock, like Asus did w/ 500mhz core clock on the GTX. Good news for Nvidia.
DDR-PIII
11-04-05, 06:00 PM
Its pretty much offical. Nvidia will have the 512mb GTX out on the 14th. Which is a whole week before the date the x1800xt has been pushed back to.
With 1.1ns ram rummored to be clocked up to 909mhz or 1818 for you DDR people, expect to see ATI take a serious butt kicking.
Core clocks will range between 550 and 580 depending on who is making it, and this is a different PCB than the GTX. Its really an Ultra, just keeping the GTX name.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27443
... untill ati releases 512mb version right ? x1800xts are only 256 mb ?
yeah
Of fishy, I'm tired of your snappy, anti-competitor and almost angry comments. You make it sound like ATI is going to get wiped off the map with this all-powerful card, especially with a source that is acknowledged to be unreliable, even by yourself in some other thread. Of course you used the Inquirer to bash ATI or AMD. Whatever your bias may be. I doubt that the 512mb will kill a X1800XT 512mb by some sort of huge number.
However, I agree with you on the time aspect. I'd like to hoof ATI's CEO in the nuts right now. I gotta hand it to nVidia, they can deliver their product when they say so.
Don't dare call me a fanboy or you will make a public ass of yourself.
My appologies for my prickishness, but this "anger" towards your prefered companies competitor is rediculous. Seriously, are we 6th graders playing Pokemon or something? Pokemon red is better than blue?
{PMS}fishy
11-04-05, 06:06 PM
... untill ati releases 512mb version right ? x1800xts are only 256 mb ?
yeah
?
Throwing more ram onto a card that doesn't exist does nothing.
Im sure ATI will just slap more ram on a card, like they did with the x800xl and call it a day.
The 512mb GTX, shares very little with the GTX. Just the name really. Its a different PCB, Much faster ram, better power regualtion, and all sorts of other goodies to check a great yield out of a 110nm GPU.
El<(')>Maxi
11-04-05, 06:07 PM
Couple of things.
X1800 XT is already released in 512K form.
I don't care. Green cards are ugly and have shimmering issues :D I'm sure they will bench very well however.
{PMS}fishy
11-04-05, 06:09 PM
Of fishy, I'm tired of your snappy, anti-competitor and almost angry comments. You make it sound like ATI is going to get wiped off the map with this all-powerful card, especially with a source that is acknowledged to be unreliable, even by yourself in some other thread. Of course you used the Inquirer to bash ATI or AMD. Whatever your bias may be. I doubt that the 512mb will kill a X1800XT 512mb by some sort of huge number.
However, I agree with you on the time aspect. I'd like to hoof ATI's CEO in the nuts right now. I gotta hand it to nVidia, they can deliver their product when they say so.
Don't dare call me a fanboy or you will make a public ass of yourself.
My appologies for my prickishness, but this "anger" towards your prefered companies competitor is rediculous. Seriously, are we 6th graders playing Pokemon or something? Pokemon red is better than blue?
I don't prefer Nvidia over ATI. Rather I prefer a company that can deliever, not BS.
If the situation was reversed, I'd buy ATI, but its not.
If you can't see past the smoke and mirrors that ATI uses to cloud its consumers, you deserve to pay for an inferior product that can't keep up.
Seriously, are we 6th graders playing Pokemon or something? Pokemon red is better than blue?
on the contrary - blue is far superior to red :D
j/k
to be honest I think nvidia had this planned all along - they launched an under powered (in terms of potential) and cheap (for them, as it doesnt use a faster memory chips) to destroy ati's market presence, holding back the good stuff until they need it....
ati run to catch up with a similar/better product based on nvidia current offering, and nvidia simply pulls out the full potential before they even deliver and theyre still trailing behind..... and all this time with the gtx512 held back nvidia can be working on the next chip......
{PMS}fishy
11-04-05, 06:10 PM
Couple of things.
X1800 XT is already released in 512K form.
I don't care. Green cards are ugly and have shimmering issues :D I'm sure they will bench very well however.
Where? Show me where I can buy one right now.
shimmering is a problem that both brands have been known to suffer from
and afaik the gtx512 is pretty much a new card (iv heard rumour it can AA/AF with HDR enabled like the new ati can)...just with a similar name so they can release an ultra later me guesses :)
{PMS}fishy
11-04-05, 06:15 PM
shimmering is a problem that both brands have been known to suffer from
and afaik the gtx512 is pretty much a new card (iv heard rumour it can AA/AF with HDR enabled like the new ati can)...just with a similar name so they can release an ultra later me guesses :)
Nvidia came out and said there will be no Ultra.
This 512mb GTX is the Ultra.
Just like in the 6800 series, the 512GTX has a different PCB than the 256GTX, just like the 6800U and 6800GT.
Same core, better power regualtion = better yield.
No need for any one to make someones opinion personal...ATI has been way behing on product but ahead in the "{Promiss}" of a superior product.
I was an ATI user and never used nVidia untill the 6800 series cards of nVidia..and from then till now I think nVidia rules the rost and will for the forseeable future..
Fishy is correect in his call on this one ! ! !
Same core, better power regualtion = better yield.
and dont forget 512mb of lovely fast memory :D
El<(')>Maxi
11-04-05, 06:24 PM
Newegg has had limited number of cards the last two days, they went very fast. A few guys on XS got them. Allstarshop also had them yesterday, then they jacked the price up $100 in lame Ass-shop style.
As far as shimmering goes, I'm sorry but anyone who says ATI suffers from the same level of image degradation doesn't know what they are talking about.
Still, I might just get one to bench on.
Modded Logic
11-04-05, 06:26 PM
You think it would be possible to run 2 of these in SLI and a PCI soundcard on the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe?
Looks like there might be just enough space for it, running the soundcard in the slot just above the 2nd videocard.
As far as shimmering goes, I'm sorry but anyone who says ATI suffers from the same level of image degradation doesn't know what they are talking about.
and any one that so blindly argues for ati's apparent 'lack of problems' suffers from the same flaw.
iv owned a boat load of cards from both brands - iv never experienced shimmering on any of them...even models that were supposed to suffer...its been proven that both brands can suffer from shimmering...more often than not its a driver bug.
IQ between my x800gto2@x850xt and 7800gtx is identical imo.
El<(')>Maxi
11-04-05, 06:45 PM
and any one that so blindly argues for ati's apparent 'lack of problems' suffers from the same flaw.
I've gamed on both GTX and X8XX series cards and I'm sorry to say but ATI has better image quality. So it's not a blind argument as you seem to think. Yes ATI has it's problems especially with drivers on X1800 but they will get that worked out.
In any event horray for Nvidia. This card will for sure score big.
xTrEmEoVrClOcKr
11-04-05, 06:49 PM
You think it would be possible to run 2 of these in SLI and a PCI soundcard on the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe?
Looks like there might be just enough space for it, running the soundcard in the slot just above the 2nd videocard.
You can run these 2 cards in SLI w/ room for a soundcard.
I've gamed on both too and I still dont see better image quality with ATI. Its all in the eye of the beholder. Of course with the new X1800's they may have got IQ up to par.
Overclocker550
11-04-05, 07:40 PM
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27443
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27400
Comming Nov 14 too! ATI's x1800xt will stand absolutely no chance vs. the 7800u and it can barely beat the 7800gtx which will probably be $400 by then. ATI's gonna have to price their top of the line card at $400 and sell em at a loss. Their r600 however may be what it takes to regain the performance crown sometime next year
crimedog
11-04-05, 08:51 PM
how can anyone possibly be confused about fishy's anger? two releases in a row ati has promised and not delievered. if one card has an edge over the other or not, i think that's very important.
Schalldampfer
11-04-05, 09:48 PM
Whoo! I'm already excited, and I don't even have a PCI-E motherboard yet.
H4Z4RD0US
11-04-05, 11:13 PM
Well I was going to get crossfire X1800XTs...but if this new GTX lives up to its name, I will get them. Nvidia drivers and SLI just seem more solid to me IMO.
{PMS}fishy
11-04-05, 11:17 PM
Well I was going to get crossfire X1800XTs...but if this new GTX lives up to its name, I will get them. Nvidia drivers and SLI just seem more solid to me IMO.
Rather more realistic.
LordDarik
11-04-05, 11:34 PM
When companies compete, we win! Cheers guys. :beer:
I don't prefer Nvidia over ATI. Rather I prefer a company that can deliever, not BS.
If the situation was reversed, I'd buy ATI, but its not.
If you can't see past the smoke and mirrors that ATI uses to cloud its consumers, you deserve to pay for an inferior product that can't keep up.
Then grab an X1800XT, fishyboy. Seems ATI failed to deliver BS and only came out with a card. :shrug: Paper release? Not really.
I'm quite aware of marketing tactics and correct me if I'm wrong, but supply problems arent exactly "smoke and mirrors" to make their product look better. ATI started rough, and rectified to deliver on time. If you wanna talk about "smoke and mirrors", then stick with your slightly but hidden overclocked nVidia card. Now there is a deceiving trick that nVidia uses to "cloud it's consumers" to get them to "pay for an inferior product that can't keep up".
Please fanboy. :rolleyes:
crimedog
11-05-05, 02:09 AM
Then grab an X1800XT, fishyboy. Seems ATI failed to deliver BS and only came out with a card. :shrug: Paper release? Not really.
I'm quite aware of marketing tactics and correct me if I'm wrong, but supply problems arent exactly "smoke and mirrors" to make their product look better. ATI started rough, and rectified to deliver on time. If you wanna talk about "smoke and mirrors", then stick with your slightly but hidden overclocked nVidia card. Now there is a deceiving trick that nVidia uses to "cloud it's consumers" to get them to "pay for an inferior product that can't keep up".
Please fanboy. :rolleyes:
you propose quite a challenge to me. how to respond without flaming? i guess i'll tread lightly. perhaps that's where the term flame baiting comes in.
when ati releases a product, you can't go out and buy it. you can't go online and buy it either. a little while later a limitied quantity hits the online stores, who jack up the price. eventually, enough get around so price falls. then ati starts sending out their higher end cards, rinse and repeat. what has happened when nvidia released their cards? why, there's been plenty of them. sure there's the initial price gouging for the first shops to get them, but there's quickly a surplus of supply to demand. now, what does a release date mean to you? the date they "officially" send out the specifications of their products? the date they ship to stores? the date you can buy one?
a supply problem? are you serious?
the fact of the matter is you call fishy a fanboy for having a little bit of common sense that is obviously being clouded by something. since a childish challenge to question how much of a fanboy you are was raised i'll sidestep. how can you possibly stick up for a company that repeatedly pulls this utter bull****? what is wrong with you, as a consumer, that you not only don't mind being lied to and made to wait and wait for promised products, but you defend the company and bash it's competitor?
if you have a problem with nvidia, keep it to yourself. if you have a problem with fishy, keep it to yourself. but if you want to argue the fact that ati has continuously released vaporware then you are dillusional.
bottom line: why not be angry! why not show this company that we're sick of what they're doing? i know i am.
Thats right the last ATI I owned was a 9800pro, I had my mind and heart set on a X850XT when it was upgrade time. but at the time I wanted one I couldnt find one anyway but one store, and they wanted $600 LMAO.
So I went and bought a 6800gt and never looked back and I'm glad I did :p
crimedog
11-05-05, 02:18 AM
Thats right the last ATI I owned was a 9800pro, I had my mind and heart set on a X850XT when it was upgrade time. but at the time I wanted one I couldnt find one anyway but one store, and they wanted $600 LMAO.
So I went and bought a 6800gt and never looked back and I'm glad I did :p
i hear ya, i went through a few 9800p's finding a nice overclocker, i still love the cards. when i couldn't get the x800's for a reasonable price and the 6800 limited editions came out though the choice was clear. the 6800 series is a great line in my opinion, very durable, fast, and fun to oc. not as fun as a x800pro though :p
i hear ya, i went through a few 9800p's finding a nice overclocker, i still love the cards. when i couldn't get the x800's for a reasonable price and the 6800 limited editions came out though the choice was clear. the 6800 series is a great line in my opinion, very durable, fast, and fun to oc. not as fun as a x800pro though :p
Yes the 6800 series was incredible IMO also.
I cant see people upgrading to X800's when they coould get a more future proof card in a 6800 series and better overclockers to boot.
Careface
11-05-05, 05:23 AM
I guess its just because they dont deliver (though, I dont have a problem here in New Zealand, as it takes months, -months- for the stuff you American's get on the day :P ).. but by god, I was saving up for this card and I dont think I'll be able to get it now :( I was planning on it taking at least another month to be put out in stores lol.. guess I'll borrow some money from mum or something >>;.. any ideas on pricing yet?
Careface*
crimedog
11-05-05, 01:05 PM
Jesus Christ you people bash Ati as if they'd raped your mom or something.
As far as I remember, the x800 line manages to keep up with the 6800 line.
Dan
that has nothing to do with it. i thought the x8x0's were exactly the same performance wise as the 6800 series.
yeah but 6800's has FULL HDR and FULL sm3.0
better IQ by far. Less expensive, able to be bought and held and FOUND when you wanted one LOL
SuperFarStucker
11-05-05, 09:12 PM
Corporate fan-boys have emotional problems. About the only thing you're all good for is grabbing a cup of water for the PHB of the engineering team. They'd ask you to get coffee but they're afraid you'd burn yourself.
bLack0ut
11-05-05, 09:22 PM
Its funny people calling each other fanboys when its alrdy been admitted that they used the competitor's card up to an extent.... if your gonna call em fanboys, call em fair-weather fanboys
(reminded me of cubs vs white sox here in chicago :) )
jivetrky
11-06-05, 12:52 AM
(reminded me of cubs vs white sox here in chicago :) )
Go Cubs :) (and yes I watched, and believe it or not, rooted for the Sox) Good for them.....now hopefully the Cubs pull it next year :)
And I guess that brings me to my comment (in a way related) ....while I'd say I'm currently more impressed with Nvidia's offerings....I would just as easily buy an ATI card if it was a better value. (meaning performance = price)
It just astounds me the way you guys bicker back and forth about this stuff. Ya know how when you are reading a post you kind of try to picture the author as you read it. Well reading these ridiculous flames I am picturing 14 year old kids pushing out their chests at each other.
Can't we just be "big people" and talk about the facts? Is this overCLOCKERS.com or overWHINERS.com :shrug:
Anyway...this is actually the first that I have heard of the 512MB GTX ....I remember reading about the 6800 cards that had 512MB that it was basically useless (according to reliable ppl like tomshardware, maxPC, etc)
How are things tremendously different now? I mean currently the GTX's...expecially in SLI can run games @ 16x12 with full settings. How many ppl actually have displays that run higher than 16x12?
But not to say I'm dogging the card...it sounds super impressive...but I'm really looking forward to it because it will lower the 256 GTX's a little. (cause right now my new rig is a little over what I thought my budget would be...I was aiming for $3,000 and I'm at almost $4,000.....so any help is welcomed :) )
one more thing.... Vrykyl said that Nvidia may have planned this all along. And that could very well be but who's to say that ATI doesn't have an ace up it's sleeve?
Anyway, LordDarik said it best:
When companies compete, we win! Cheers guys. :beer:
Careface
11-06-05, 02:08 AM
How are things tremendously different now?
well i hear FEAR doesnt run too well with full aa/af and all that jazz, and of course the e-penis factor: "olo liek mi kard iz bett0r than yu0rs~". Having said that, I certainly wouldnt complain about having that card :D
Careface*
-_{MoW}_-Assasi
11-06-05, 02:19 AM
*cries* i wish i shouldnt of bought my 'normal' 7800 GTX and wishes for this new one
i wouldnt cry to soon...new stuff always comes out, and theres nothing yet to say that the 512mb gtx is going to be world destroyingly better...tho performancce will be better...its the nature of the pc to become 'outdated' as soon as youve purchased it - theres always something newer ;)
jivetrky
11-06-05, 03:42 AM
i wouldnt cry to soon...new stuff always comes out, and theres nothing yet to say that the 512mb gtx is going to be world destroyingly better...tho performancce will be better...its the nature of the pc to become 'outdated' as soon as youve purchased it - theres always something newer ;)
Yep....as soon as you drive it off the lot is depreciates! :)
-_{MoW}_-Assasi:
You got this for your GTX on air? (514mhz Core 1360mhz mem)
not bad...makes me wonder what I might get with water.....I can't wait! :)
xTrEmEoVrClOcKr
11-06-05, 07:50 AM
Jivetrky, wish my 7800GTX even clocked over 500mhz core, this is the worst clocker, ever.
hasuchobe
11-06-05, 10:26 AM
sounds good crimedog =) (referring to your comment on page 1)
madhatR
11-06-05, 11:40 AM
well the 512mb gtx does sound awesome .. there are preorders for it already from overclockers uk or something .. 788 US LOL ..
anyways the x1800xt is avaible already .. a bunch of compusa's had them .. some people over at hardforums got them .. and they are showing up on e-tailers now ..
drivers are really the issues with them .. i still think a cf setup with x1800xt 512s will compete with the newer gtx sli'd
Not to mention the 90nm version is sitting there waiting to go. Its their ace. To be pulled out at will in the event that ati does something unexpected.
madhatR
11-06-05, 11:58 AM
according to someone on xtremesystems .. nvidia has a bigger card then the 512mb gtx ready and waiting .. and supposed to come out around q1 of 06 .. so who knows
guys iv had em all..9800p's were awsome cards
then i got a vanilla 6800
then a 6800U
then a 7800gtx
traded that for 2x 6800u's PCI-e
sold each of those off
and bought a x800pro for 180
oc'd that puppy and it feels just as good as my ultra!
my 3dmark scores speak for themselves
but, nvidia HAS won this round AGAIN lol
i plan on getting a 7800 in the next couple weeks as prices are so LOW! aka $300 7800gt's and $375-$400 256mb 7800gtx's
hell when this new card comes out prices will fall even lower!
and it doesnt look like ati's gunna drop prices anywhere like that..im no fan boy, im just a consumer that wants to get the most for his $$$
the uk rrp on the 256mb x1800xt's are higher than a gtx...the 512mb cards are like £450 over here...a regular gtx can be had for £320...so if nvidia can stay under £400 gbp for the 512mb gtx theyl make a killing :D
jivetrky
11-06-05, 08:16 PM
Jivetrky, wish my 7800GTX even clocked over 500mhz core, this is the worst clocker, ever.
Well of course that's not AWESOME or anything...but 14% is still not too bad. (from stock reference speeds) :)
xTrEmEoVrClOcKr
11-06-05, 08:20 PM
Im getting rid of this and getting an X8XX series card, dont need a 7800GTX right now.
jivetrky
11-06-05, 08:34 PM
hell when this new card comes out prices will fall even lower!
and it doesnt look like ati's gunna drop prices anywhere like that..im no fan boy, im just a consumer that wants to get the most for his $$$
And that's the bottom line... It shouldn't be about "fanboys" it should be about who has the best technology for the best $....it's a back and forth thing between vid card companies...always has been that way......back in the day ATI was the sh** and right now Nvidia is king...I remember back when I built my "top of the line" I put a voodoo 2 card in it :) because that was king (no, not SLI...couldn't afford it) and my next major upgrade brought me to the 9600XT because at that time ATIs had it over everyone else......and like I said, lately it's been Nvidia....I'd be HAPPY to see a better card come from ATI, that was at the right price point. We'll see I guess :)
Apokalipse
11-07-05, 02:52 AM
according to someone on xtremesystems .. nvidia has a bigger card then the 512mb gtx ready and waiting .. and supposed to come out around q1 of 06 .. so who knows
where'd you hear that?
anyway, Nvidia has won this time. clear and simple. ATI will probabbly not gain a lead for quite some time, especially if Nvidia really does have a better card than the 512MB GTX.
although I do actually hope ATI can recover. after all, if ATI went out of business, there'd be no competition for Nvidia, and they would start making their cards really expensive, and slow down their development.
3DFlyer
11-07-05, 11:09 AM
If nVidia don't snap it up and get those SLi drivers out to Intel users, they are seriously gonna be outsold by ATi due to crossfire. They need to pull that nf4 crap they've been shoveling off the market, and start supporting a real chipset. They are ripping people off...the things don't work right at all. If they can release a new card in the drop of a hat, then they can get those drivers out.
I've heard rumors that "they are still working on them"...there is no way. They've had those drivers, and have had them for a long time, they just think people are gonna buy their nf4 crap, and it's not gonna happen. Only performance enthusiasts are even going to look at that kind of thing, and most do their homework. Nobody who reads up on what they're buying is going to buy a board that the NB about melts off of when it's OC'd, or that can't get anywhere near 300 FSB (heck at 230 the damn things bugs out), or that is riddled with bugs.
These topline cards are aimed at the performance enthusiast, and that's where they make their sales.
ATi may very well show a gain on Nvidia in the 4th quarter because of lost sales at nVidia due to lack of driver support. People can't use something that doesn't exist, and they can't buy 2 cards when there is no support for them.
I'm getting really tired of their games, and if they don't give up these political games, they are going to loose a longtime customer.
I got caught up in the ATi "All in Wonder" fiasco back some years ago, and that left a bad taste in my mouth, so I switched to nVidia then, and have used them ever since because they are the performance leader. I guess they are caring less an less about performance. I also guess sales and their longtime users mean nothing to them.
Highendtoys
11-08-05, 06:10 PM
These topline cards are aimed at the performance enthusiast, and that's where they make their sales.
Wow, if you guys only knew and I am not just talking about the quoted comment. I will infact take that comment on and tell you that it cannot be farther from the truth. I work with an ATi sales person and I can tell you that you are so far off that if you take the above statment and do a 180 play on words it would only then be correct.
What do you think sold more, the 9800, 9600 or the 9000? This is a volume product, the products you sell more of are the products you make the most money on. Having the latest and greatest product puts a thought in the consumers head and generates a buzz. Our highend toys are simply marketing tools for the people that actually make ATI and NVIDIA money, Joe Sixpack.
Curb the flaming, and can the fanboyism, or I will not hesitate to close this thread, rather than clean it up again. Last I checked, flaming was still against the rules here and the rules will be respected. -- Oni :sn:
jivetrky
11-08-05, 06:24 PM
yeah I'd agree with that....they probably make a lot more money on the bulk sales of their more basic cards (like how dell is currently selling x300's in many of their systems)
mysterfix
11-08-05, 07:56 PM
If nVidia don't snap it up and get those SLi drivers out to Intel users, they are seriously gonna be outsold by ATi due to crossfire. They need to pull that nf4 crap they've been shoveling off the market, and start supporting a real chipset. They are ripping people off...the things don't work right at all. If they can release a new card in the drop of a hat, then they can get those drivers out.
I've heard rumors that "they are still working on them"...there is no way. They've had those drivers, and have had them for a long time, they just think people are gonna buy their nf4 crap, and it's not gonna happen. Only performance enthusiasts are even going to look at that kind of thing, and most do their homework. Nobody who reads up on what they're buying is going to buy a board that the NB about melts off of when it's OC'd, or that can't get anywhere near 300 FSB (heck at 230 the damn things bugs out), or that is riddled with bugs.
These topline cards are aimed at the performance enthusiast, and that's where they make their sales.
ATi may very well show a gain on Nvidia in the 4th quarter because of lost sales at nVidia due to lack of driver support. People can't use something that doesn't exist, and they can't buy 2 cards when there is no support for them.
I'm getting really tired of their games, and if they don't give up these political games, they are going to loose a longtime customer.
I got caught up in the ATi "All in Wonder" fiasco back some years ago, and that left a bad taste in my mouth, so I switched to nVidia then, and have used them ever since because they are the performance leader. I guess they are caring less an less about performance. I also guess sales and their longtime users mean nothing to them.
Dude, with all do respect Intel makes there own chipsets and they seem to be pretty good at it so why not look to them for sli support? I'm sure if they really want to get it done they will. :shrug:
Now back to the subject at hand, I really think Nvidia has been planning and working hard since they were hit hard by the X800 series. The GTX512 is Nvidia's way of spiking the ball on ATI and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they have another surprise waiting in the wings.
ATI has a habit of waiting for Nvidia to hit the market first and then trying to "one up them". So this time it looks like Nvidia was ready for the sneakiness of ATI and has effectively caught them with there hands in the cookie jar. :)
I hope this thing is as good as we all think it will be because that means that ATI will have to work harder for the crown we will surely benefit from the battle for supremacy with lower prices and better gpu's.
Sentential
11-08-05, 08:00 PM
Im sure that alot of people feel similarly to myself. I have no plans of buying the NV47 (aka G70) or the R520. Perhaps Im simply becoming paranoid but I get the impression that these are just filler cards for the good stuff that will come out on 90nm next year. (Ie G71 and R580).
Ill bite once I see what both of these are like
Highendtoys
11-08-05, 08:43 PM
Woot, I just got the call, one of five that came in today will be on my doorstep by 8AM tomorrow. I begged for a second card but no dice so I will have to call around tomorrow and see if I can make someone elses list.
well my wallet is really tired of all the recent upgradings.. iam sticking with my gtx for sometime.
oh and that doesnt mean that u wont keep us updated with the 512 gtx's guys!
Feuer Frei
11-09-05, 06:28 PM
Woot, I just got the call, one of five that came in today will be on my doorstep by 8AM tomorrow. I begged for a second card but no dice so I will have to call around tomorrow and see if I can make someone elses list.
So any updates? Did u get the card? *waits patiently*
:p
ps. you are talking about recieving the 512MB gtx right?
- Feuer Frei
ShadowClock59
11-09-05, 08:05 PM
... untill ati releases 512mb version right ? x1800xts are only 256 mb ?
yeah
Why is it that there are reviews of the actual 512mb X1800XT then? What? If ATI's cards really are only 256mb, I geuss the reviews here:
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2552&p=10
They must be lieing about the fact that they have a 512mb card. Truth is, this is a fair competition and thats that, 512mb vs 512mb (supposedly, they still havnt released them)
but what can I say. I dont care who wins, I will sale my GTX and get whichever one of the top of the line cards performs better.
BTW. Ive never noticed shimmering, maybe you could point to a specific game or benchmark? Unless your talking about tearing, if not, then I have never seen shimmering on the GTX. The only time I saw what could be shimmering was when I put a housefan next to my case to blow in some air, and even then, the only reason it was "shimmering" was because of the conflict of magnetism between the GTX and the fan...
Sorry, but this is an all out, down and dirty, fair competition. I think the scores will be close, but I also think the nvidia card will take the lead.
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