EE P4 3.73GHZ 1066FSB suggestions

[danimbk]

Hello everyone,
I recently fried something on my FX57 so I have traded it in for this RIG:

Intel® Pentium® Processor Extreme Edition w/ HT Technology 3.73GHz 1066MHz FSB 2MB Cache

P5ND2 Nforce 4 SLI

PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 850 SLI

7800GTX KO (only one right now)

1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz w/ CL5 (this is not the ram I am sticking with. Have not bought new ram yet - thinking about: CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel 3-2-2-8, but if anyone can suggest something better I am all ears)

CoolMaster Liquid cooling for CPU and Video card that works wonders trust me.

(2) 74GB Raptors in 0 Raid @ 10,000rpm

Now, I am trying not to be an annoying noobie here and I have read and read all the posts and stickies forever. But I am apparently doing something wrong since I fried that last rig wich was expensive as can be. Don't want to do that again so I am asking for help from the masters here. I am looking to overclock somewhere between modest and impressive. No need to push the absolute limits. Also my cooling is really good so for the sake of discussion please take temps out of the variables here. Thanx in advance

[ghost_recon88]

Dang, that's a killer setup, however, the P4EE edition seems to be both a little overpriced and overhyped. Personally, I would go with a high-end 600 series CPU and get another 7800GTX with the money you saved. Just my opinion though.

[xTrEmEoVrClOcKr]

Id get a 670 w/ an extra 7800GTX. The 670 would easily do 4.5ghz on water, probably 4.8ghz.

[crimedog]

if i were you i'd change the motherboard to the asus p5wd2-premium (nforce4 isn't a good overclocker) and change the ram to mushkin pc2-6400 5-3-3-8 because it's basically the same stuff as the corsair but much cheaper.

what exactly do you want to know?

[3DFlyer]

I agree with crimedog, definitely loose the nf4. They're trouble. If you're after low clocks, bugginess, a chipset that gets so hot it's about to pop, and a board that's gonna drive you're voltage to the max just to get a very low OC then the nf4 board is the one, but I haven't seen anybody looking for thos attributes. They do come pre-equipped with issues and plenty of them.

The suggestion on the 6xx CPU's is also a good one. They ROCK! Pressler and Cedar MIll is also around the corner as well, so you might wanna do some reseaerch on those CPU's as well before buying. There's lots of fabulous stuff in Intel land these day's, and more is right around the corner. :)

[hugonow]

or you can buy the Asus P5N32-SLI: Dual x16, the absolute best board for intel at the moment.

It reach new records, in speed and in temperatures.
And if you didnt buy yet the EE follow the advices and buy a 670. This cpu rocks.

[crimedog]

or you can buy the Asus P5N32-SLI: Dual x16, the absolute best board for intel at the moment.

It reach new records, in speed and in temperatures.
And if you didnt buy yet the EE follow the advices and buy a 670. This cpu rocks.

that's an nforce4 board, same thigs said about the p5nd2 apply... if you're not overclocking, or hardly overclocking they're fine. but if you want to push the fsb you're out of luck.

[hugonow]

By anandtech:
The Asus P5N32-SLI Deluxe is outstanding and deserves serious consideration if you are an Intel enthusiast. It is hard to quantify this statement, but after spending considerable time with this board, it is truly a cut above most other boards in both quality and performance. The board is obviously targeted at the Intel gaming enthusiast, but it should not be dismissed as an everyday solution for people who are able to afford its $210 price tag.

In the video area, if you're an Intel gamer, looking for SLI or not, this is the board for you. It fully supports NVIDIA SLI with two approved NVIDIA based video cards in full x16 operation and with the 81.85 drivers, it will provide you with significant performance enhancements over the x8 products at higher resolutions or when utilizing SLI-AA settings

In the performance area, this board was constantly at the top in all categories. The board is extremely balanced and will run all tested applications at its full overclock configuration as well as it does at stock settings. We believe the performance of this board to be outstanding and definitely showcases the ability of Asus's engineering efforts in the Intel market space

Full Review here (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2580&p=1)

[crimedog]

Maximum FSB OC: 261fsb x 14 (3657MHz) +15%

i've run a p5wd2-p up to 370mhz fsb unmodded...

[Killaapp]

haha max fsb of 261fsb is horrible, anything that maxes out before 267fsb shouldn't even be considered half way decent

[danimbk]

Wow,
Finally I get some really usefull feed back from this board. Since I don't really think I am going to need another 7800GTX (had two, not worth it IMHO), I agree with crimedog about the p5wd2-premium mobo. I think the mobo may be what I fried while trying to increase FSB on the AMD. The p5wd2-premium also lets you use the 1GHZ ram (pc 8000).
Too late on the EE - already bought it and money aside, I think I am happy I did. It will be able to OC just as much as the others while having a 25% faster FSB. Since I am willing to spend the extra cash for lower timings I would still go with corsair. However I will get the OCZ if I switch to the p5wd2-premium. If I do that thought, I am going to need to remove the water cooling and all that setup which I don't think I am qualified to do. Maybe someone can help me with that. Any and all opions are appreciated. Please let me know if I am on the right track. Thanks

[speed bump]

Don't buy the 850sli PSU it suck for P4s becuase of the many 12v lines it has. You would be much much better off with a 510 SLI which only has one 12v line.

[3DFlyer]

Yes sir! SLi be damned I'm afraid until nVidia starts supporting it ona real Intel chipset that will run.

As already shown, the new boards with intel chipsets will regularly run at or above 300FSB. At that level, you will get higher performanc with one card than you will with SLi on a board that only does 260.

260 hahaha That sounds rediculous. My socket 478 IC7-G will blow that away and that board is old compared to the level we are talking about here.

For serious performance go with an Intel chipset board man. These guys telling you that know what they are talking about. They OC this stuff all thre time, and do some of the most extreme stuff there is.

If crimedog says a board will do 370+, it will do it, and you can take that as the gospel becasue he's done it, and has already posted the screens that showed it. I too know this becasue i saw them, and I've seen others that do it too. These boards regularly break 300+. 300 is a piece of cake for them.

it takes the cooling to keep the processor cool, but the board handles it like it was nothing. PMS_Fishy told me the NB doesn't get hot either at that level.

On the PSU take a look at the OCZ PowerStream 520 SLi. They are a good strong 33amp PSU. No split rails either. You want that strong single rail unit. Avoid the 600 or the modstreams. The PowerStream 520 is the one. Lot's of guys have had great success with it including me. They are half the price of a PC P&C unit, but they are just as strong.

There's nothing wrong with a PC P&C though. They are excellent units, but they are priced too high IMO.

You will never overload a PowerStream 520. They run cool, they're quiet, and the rails are rock solid even when the most extreme OC's are put on them, and the heaviest loads. OCZ service is also second to none should you ever need it. They are a PSU designed specifficly for an OC'er.

[Turbo]

I'm running a 670 in a P5WD2 premium at 370 Mhz fsb 24/7, with 4 memory blocks (4x Corsair PC5400UL's) and 2x 7800GTX's as well. Board is completely unmodded. Superpi 32M is stable up to 380 Mhz fsb with 4 memory blocks and cpu @ 5.3 Ghz. So the P5WD2 is a kick-a** motherboard, no question about it. However, I can't run SLI

I have a P5N32SLI on order as well, should've been shipped yersterday. Now I've tried a P5ND2 SLI and an Abit NI8 SLI, none of which overclocked worth a damn, especially compared to the P5WD2. I'm hoping to get a respectable cpu overclock out of this one follwing the Anandtech review.

Oh, and don't put the PCP&C 850W psu down on Intel platforms. I haven't met anybody yet with better overclocks with similar components and cooling. It's an awesome psu and much better ( and a lot les noisy ) than the PCP&C 510. I have both.