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Rafterman223
10-23-01, 03:50 PM
Answer me these questions three:
1. What is the most significant source(s) of heat in a computer?
2. Would a better haetsink and fan on the CPU and in the case make a big difference?
3. Is water cooling a difficult thing to do?
thanks to all who reply
Warlord2
10-23-01, 04:01 PM
WELCOME TO THE FORUMS
hey we all started out as n00bs:D
I would have to say
1. cpu
2. yes
3. not hard if you read up on watercooling
UnseenMenace
10-23-01, 04:24 PM
1. cpu
2. yes
3. No :- But someone who asks questions 1 and 2 is not ready to attempt it ..imho
EDITED ** Please read all the thread **
Godfodda
10-23-01, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by UnseenMenace
1. cpu
2. yes
3. No :- But someone who asks questions 1 and 2 is not ready to attempt it ..imho
Ouch! Look at the senior member spanking the new guy. :D
1. CPU - Dont forget the video card (If you have a powerful one)
2. YES!!!
3. It can be difficult, But if ya read on it, it will be EASY!
Just go into the Wattercooling archives.
www.overclockers.com & click on wattercooling in
the sidebar.
cowanrg
10-23-01, 05:01 PM
1.) electricity
2.) difference? well, it could run cooler, yes. but will it make the computer go faster alone? no. will it give better results in overclocking? yes.
3.) nah. just read a lot and use all your common sense.
UnseenMenace
10-23-01, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Godfodda
Ouch! Look at the senior member spanking the new guy. :D
I was not attempting to spank anyone, however I was attempting to indicate that perhaps the user is not ready to undertake such a task. While water cooling in itself is not hard a small failure can be catastrophic as we all know that electricity and water does not mix. Perhaps I could have and should have explained myself better.
I would not like to be viewed any differently to any user just because I am a senior, hell I'm the same ass that I always have been :)
Sorry Rafterman223 if I was out of line, my comment was not intended to be so, I just try to help people as much as I can and unfortunately took a little less time assisting you than I should have.
I have to agree with UnseenMenace. Water cooling is probably not for the rank novice. However, I've seen plenty of newbies become seasoned overclocking veterans in no time. Read, research, ask questions, experiment, and tweak your computer. We all were beginners once.
Rafterman223
10-23-01, 06:27 PM
thanks a lot for the info, but if the water is distilled, then there will be no ions to conduct the electricity and it wont be conductive, am i right??
Originally posted by Rafterman223
thanks a lot for the info, but if the water is distilled, then there will be no ions to conduct the electricity and it wont be conductive, am i right??
For about twenty seconds perhaps. As soon as you start running that water through copper pipe, guess what happens.
I should say, I don't know if distilled water is conductive, but even if it isn't ... it doesn't stay pure for very long.
nihili
mcrites
10-23-01, 09:25 PM
Heck, I just built my first computer and did watercooling, like they say, just take a few hours, and read every relevant post in these forums, and you will be set, and if you get stuck such as I did a couple of times, you can always ask and someone is more than likely to help, which is great here.
Some common pitfalls that happened to me for watercooling:
Not enough pressure on the CPU with the waterblock
Not using a resovoir, or at least a airtrap for my inline system, thanks Turbokeu for the idea, to easily get rid of bubbles, and be able to keep the system in the case, and be able to fill the water through the airtrap,
and make sure you make it as modular as possible, to make it easier to take apart, and bleed. I am going to get something like the quick couplers on eheim.com so I can pull my block from the system, so I can remove my mobo tray, and get to stuff easier. Why didn't I think of this first!!!!
Ok let me see if I can do this in an appropriate order here.
1: Everyone else has answered your questions, and I agree.
B: Nihili, love the new sig, very good there...
3: Welcome to prolly the best forums online.
D: Again, I agree basiclly with what has been said, Water cooling is an actual very easy task, Provided, that you have read everything you can possibly find. On this and every other forum there is. Do yourself a favor and read it all, it will take some time but it will very easily be worth the effort. In my opinion, there are dozens if not more of sites that have huge articles, how-to's and guides on building them. The cheap way, the most common way and the best way. Granted there really isnt a best way, just the best for him or her.
5: If you have any questions dont fail to ask, as it has been said before and will again, there is no such thing as a stupid question.
F: I am sure there are plenty here that would be willing to help in any possible way, I cant speak for everyone, but I have several types of online chat programs that I use, and I am online 24/7. (Unless of course something boots me or my ISP goes down.
6: Welcome aboard~!!!
Wait I already said that didnt I? :p
.. AE 86 ..
10-24-01, 03:43 AM
Rafterman223 :
what is the major heat source of a toaster ?
btw some processors (such as AMD) may be classified as a toaster too :D
Rafterman223 :
what is the major heat source of a toaster ?
btw some processors (such as AMD) may be classified as a toaster too
Let me clerify,
AMD processors can produce twice as much heat as Intel processors. (mainly because they require more power.)
Shroomer
10-24-01, 06:08 PM
Just gonna comment on the watercooling:
Easy: Yes... in a way
To get it to look good AND work well it takes either a lot of research and/or a lot of practice.
I'm now using revision 3 of my watercooling system. I've been through 3 waterblocks, three radiators (if ya count a cool ass but annoying bong), and 2 cases. I'm REALLY planning out revision 4. I'll be lucky to have it started in a month (money prob as well).
Tips:
1: TEST, TEST, TEST (2 close calls on record)
2: Research, resarch, research
3: Dimentions, dimentions, dimentions
4: The right case makes a LOAD of difference
5: Have the right attitude: You may make a mistake, but it was fun getting there.
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