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Ottoman
10-23-01, 04:06 PM
hey guys..

I installed XP the other day, on top of 98se...
was running ME prior, heard about all the Improved fps etc.

well
I loaded CS, and I used to run it at 60+ fps, now it waivers around 30!!! it actually get's choppy!!!

and lost like 400+ pts on 3dm2k1

what the heck??

I've lost some serious gaming performance overall...
I'm not impressed what so ever...

I went and installed 2k drivers for my board, and installed the XP drivers for my vid card...

WHAT"S GOIN ON!!!

i'm not a happy camper :(

is it my radeon?, I keep hearing how crap it is..

here's my specs:

MSI K7 pro
athlon 650@705
384 mb ram
20 gb IBM@7200
30gb WD @7200
RADEON 64mb DDR
UnseenMenace
10-23-01, 04:10 PM
Have you tried running the game in compatibility mode ?
Ottoman
10-23-01, 04:21 PM
counterstrike? it has a compat mode?

I don't want it to be software rendered at 320x240 man
UnseenMenace
10-23-01, 04:44 PM
No windows XP has the ability to run software in a mode compatible to older windows versions
Ottoman
10-23-01, 06:18 PM
uhh, and where exactly would I be able to loacte that?
UnseenMenace
10-23-01, 06:25 PM
Right Click the exe file for the application and select properties and you will see a tab which states compatibility
abb1
10-23-01, 07:24 PM
My 3DMark2001 score went from 6993 in WinME to 6785 in WinXP. So yes there is definately a loss in gaming performance. You have to remember that WinXP is still NTFS, which is slower than FAT32. Mind you that a 3% loss is no big deal in my system, but a 50% loss of framerates in your system is. I would consider upgrading to a GeForce 3 if gaming is important to you.
Abb
bdf24
10-23-01, 10:22 PM
You should try a clean install instead of an upgrade. I noticed a difference in speed from when I first Uprgraded to when I formated and did a clean install. Even when you upgrade and convert from Fat32 to NTFS it leaves your old Win98 files there. And they are still usable for the most part. Atleast that's what happened when I did just the "upgrade".
abb1
10-24-01, 03:21 AM
I did do a clean install on my system.
Abb
Ottoman
10-24-01, 09:02 AM
do u recommend I switch to NTFS?

I heard somewhere that it's actually slower...

and I wont be able to read the drive with ME that I have installed on my other drive
omar
10-24-01, 10:04 AM
HEY YOU SHOULD TRY A CLEAN INSTALL YOU WILL BE MUCH HAPIER.......
AKDUDE
10-24-01, 10:34 AM
You should not have lost that much during a normal install.

I don't know what drivers your using for the Radeon, but when I ran XP RC1, I had a 3100 something 3dmark score, which was basically the same as the score I had when I ran 98se. My games also ran just fine, some improved a tad, others dropped a bit. In all cases it was just a few FPS, like 5-10 or so.

This was with a Radeon LE, using the drivers that came with XP.

I hope you get your problem sorted out. :(
AKDUDE
Ottoman
10-25-01, 07:50 AM
it's a little better than before..

I went and dl'ed latest XP drivers for Radeon
dl'ed the NT version of DX8
and used a redeon tweaker and OC'ed my card mad crazy

260/235 or something don't remember exactly...

improved my framerates somewhat, and I can actually play Counter-strike without being a jerky SLIDE SHOW
and can hover above 30fps most of the time...

and HL doesn't seem to like the Radeon Opengl drivers, because of their attempt to stop cheating that ppl did by making walls transparant etc... so when u play in OGL u get a stack overflow and quit. and my cards perf. was way better in Ogl....


this is rediculous....


and re-installing EVERYTHING is gonna be a pain....

man....