Prescott @ 7.47ghz & modPI1.4 1M/8M/16M/32M

[Nasgul]

READ AND SEE ALL ABOUT IT. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=79877&page=1&pp=25)


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[Nexus Realized]

:drool:

[Know Nuttin]

:thup: :thup:

[inkfx]

Now that is some impresive overclocking! :attn:

[3DFlyer]

And people say AMD is the benchmarking king?!? LMAO

[dylskee]

Now that's impressive!!!! :eek: :eek: :drool: :drool:

[mateo]

:drool: Even though there's no practical purpose to that, I'm still amazed...I love how flexible the Prescotts get when you cool them, you can push and push whereas K8s just break after a certain point no matter what, it seems.

[InfiniteThought]

That's just ridiculous.

What happens when you put an A64 on LN?

Where do you get a 19x multiplier?

[TheGreySpectre]

as cool as that is im more interested in how far you can overclock a chip on standard nonstock cooling, partially because systems such as 4ghz athlons and 7ghz P4s arnt stable and arnt available to the masses, any body who midly browses this forum can go pickup the right parts and OC there system, say an amd to 2.8Ghz, but it tkaes volt modding skills an extremely impressive budget to get a system up to the extremes

as for Sandiego cores on venice, they all tend to peak at around or just a little over 4ghz, although I would be interested to compare a 4 ghz sandiego to a 7 ghz prescott, the prescott would probably win but a comparison would be nice

[3DFlyer]

That's just ridiculous.

What happens when you put an A64 on LN?

Where do you get a 19x multiplier?

What happens is it'll bug out. DICE, and LN2 won't work with most AMD's. It's too cold. Most AMD's bug out at anything below -80.

If you want an Extreme OC'er you need an Intel.

Actually this chips is quite stable. It's not rock solid 24/7 stable, but it will benchmark. If you tried that with an AMD it would probably take something 2.5 vCore, and that's if by some divine intervention you could get the thing to run at the extreme low temps needed to do it.

Intel OWNS in the Extreme OC'ing world. They also look to be owning the benchmarking crown now too.

When the Pressler/Cedar Mills come out, and the Conroe come out the OC'ing headroom is going to go up even higher.

AMD's just won't clock. The pipes are too short and this limits the clocks. The short pipe was a good idea while it lasted, but Intel was smarter, they worked to get the clocks up, and are now optimizing the pipe length while still keeping the clocks relatively high, and lowering voltage to start getting the temps down. The 6xx CPU's show this very well, and they are merely a stepping stone to the new line of CPU's.

AMD does not have an answer for this as they are still stuck on the short pipe idea...too short. Basically the short answer is "they are too short and have come up short" hehe Say that one 5 times. LOL

Edited to add: The 19x comes from the ability to use EIST and the features of the mobo to get it.

[CarRamrod]

I think I just messed my pants. :drool:

[TiTON]

That is very NICE overclocking.

Did anyone ID the motherboard? It didn't look a DFI or Abit. Maybe ASUS?

I'm just hoping to join the the 5Ghz club w/ DICE. But 7 Ghz and 32MB pi stable is just crazy.

SAD

[Jakalwarrior]

If the short pipe sucks why is intel moving back that direction? IE, conroe etc...

[crimedog]

it's a 670, hence the 19x :rolleyes:
it's an asus p5wd2-premium, intel 670, corsair pc5400ul, liquid nitrogen

If the short pipe sucks why is intel moving back that direction? IE, conroe etc...
exactly, 3dflyer you're going on my block list because you're such a fanboy and your posts are so untrue. intel owns the extreme overclocking scene? then why are they outnumbered by such a ridiculous amount...

edit: looked it up and conroe is supposed to have a 14 stage instruction pipeline as opposed to the current prescott's 31 stages :bang head the 31 stage is usually blamed for the high heat output of prescotts. down with netburst.

[mtb856]

Although Intel gets some fast numbers.... and PRTeamJapan pushes some great SPi times, when it comes time for me to build my computer over again, I'll be moving to AMD. I ran an Intel 2.4C at 3.5 gigs for over a year and I loved that chip, but the AMD chips are the kings when it comes to gaming.... which is what I do primarily on my system.

When you consider that you can buy an Opteron 146 and overclock it past FX-57 speeds on water cooling.... and for a heck of a lot less than an equivalent Intel processor, there's really not a whole lot of reasons to go to Intel for gaming systems unless you're dedicated to Intel processors.

I love overclocking Intels, but for gaming performance I'll be switching over to AMD for my next computer.

[3DFlyer]

it's a 670, hence the 19x :rolleyes:
it's an asus p5wd2-premium, intel 670, corsair pc5400ul, liquid nitrogen


exactly, 3dflyer you're going on my block list because you're such a fanboy and your posts are so untrue. intel owns the extreme overclocking scene? then why are they outnumbered by such a ridiculous amount...

edit: looked it up and conroe is supposed to have a 14 stage instruction pipeline as opposed to the current prescott's 31 stages :bang head the 31 stage is usually blamed for the high heat output of prescotts. down with netburst.

What are you talking about. There is NO AMD CPU that will do 7.47 GHz, or 7, or 6, or even 5. Outnumbered? AMD is not even close to the clocks Intel is getting and won't be for years.

If you have any proof at all of this last post you just made lets se just one. One single clock that is anywhere near 7.47Ghz. You shgow me a AMD that will clock that and i'll send you a check for 100 dollars. In fact, I'll make it money order next day air, and that's not a wager, i'll send it to you free and clear. All you have to do is show me the clock...anybody's clock it don't matter who or where they are.

Know why I'll do that? Becasue there ain't one...period.

BTW, I seem to remember another post where you said i was wrong about those Conroe's...remember that one? You said I was wrong too then. It seems like YOU are the one who needs to get their info straight before you go telling others they are wrong when they are right.

[3DFlyer]

If the short pipe sucks why is intel moving back that direction? IE, conroe etc...

I didn;t say the short pipes sucks on the Intels. Intel is going to keep those clocks, but they are going to shorten them. They are not going to go *too short* where the clocks suffer. Intel is going to have both in other words. AMD is sticking with the short pipes and the low clocks.

[crimedog]

What are you talking about. There is NO AMD CPU that will do 7.47 GHz, or 7, or 6, or even 5. Outnumbered? AMD is not even close to the clocks Intel is getting and won't be for years.

what are you talking about? what is wrong with you? more people are putting amd's under extreme conditions than intels. why would an amd be able to (or need to) match a prescott clock? do you think a prescott at 3.5ghz is as good as a fx-57 at 3.5ghz? :bang head

and i didn't say you were wrong about conroe ES's (the other thread.) I said they weren't "out there" meaning giving us results.

[Gautam]

I didn;t say the short pipes sucks on the Intels. Intel is going to keep those clocks, but they are going to shorten them. They are not going to go *too short* where the clocks suffer. Intel is going to have both in other words. AMD is sticking with the short pipes and the low clocks.
AFAIK, the first of the Conroes and Meroms will have clocks ranging from around 2.4-3 GHz.

There's plenty of extreme benchmarking going on with both Intels and AMDs, always is. :D

[3DFlyer]

what are you talking about? what is wrong with you? more people are putting amd's under extreme conditions than intels. why would an amd be able to (or need to) match a prescott clock? do you think a prescott at 3.5ghz is as good as a fx-57 at 3.5ghz? :bang head

That is not what I said. I said they own in the Extreme clocks. In other words highest GHz. You said that was wrong. I wanna see ANY AMD that will do anything close to 7GHz...hell, I'll even drop it to 6GHz. One single AMD clock of 6GHz that'll boot, and you get 100 dollars and I $#!^ you not.

[Gautam]

That is not what I said. I said they own in the Extreme clocks. In other words highest GHz. You said that was wrong. I wanna see ANY AMD that will do anything close to 7GHz...hell, I'll even drop it to 6GHz. One single AMD clock of 6GHz that'll boot, and you get 100 dollars and I $#!^ you not.
I think you guys both know what the other means, so lets try and tone it down a tad, mm-kay? :)

[crimedog]

That is not what I said. I said they own in the Extreme clocks. In other words highest GHz. You said that was wrong.
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If you want an Extreme OC'er you need an Intel.


Intel OWNS in the Extreme OC'ing world. They also look to be owning the benchmarking crown now too.

way to be

intel has had the superpi records for quite some time now. take a look at the orb though... no intel on the front page for 3dmark05, 03, or 01

[3DFlyer]

Yes, I know what he meant Guatum, but he was telling me I was wrong about that. I know how high these things clock, and how high the AMD's clock, and the Super Pi benches.

The guy has run that rig for 16minutes, so it's also possible he could run some 3D benches. He hasn't yet, but if he can get that thing to go through a stable 3D Bench it'll own that too.

Sorry Crimedog, I was saying something totally different that you. I know you see moe AMD clockers in numbers, but in GHz there is no match.

There ain't no fanboi to that at all. It's just a statement of fact.

[aeiou]

That is not what I said. I said they own in the Extreme clocks. In other words highest GHz. You said that was wrong. I wanna see ANY AMD that will do anything close to 7GHz...hell, I'll even drop it to 6GHz. One single AMD clock of 6GHz that'll boot, and you get 100 dollars and I $#!^ you not.

who rally cares if it can't get up to 7ghz?!! It will still out perform that intel processor on MUCH lower clocks. Even intel- the biggest proponents of the more clocks is better idea- have conceeded that ghz isn't everything.

[3DFlyer]

who rally cares if it can't get up to 7ghz?!! It will still out perform that intel processor on MUCH lower clocks. Even intel- the biggest proponents of the more clocks is better idea- have conceeded that ghz isn't everything.

There's obviously something to it, becasue there isn't any AMD on top on the Super Pi record is there? What level clock will it take for a AMD to match that Super Pi run? no matter, even if you could arrive at that number, they will not get there. The highest I have seen personally would not match it, and that CPU lasted a day. I'll believe they'll outperform that CPU when I see it. It will take a redesign before we see it, and it will have to be an answer to the next gen that are coming out in 3 months because the new CPU's are going to run cooler, and from the reviews they have higher OC'ing headroom also.

[crimedog]

Yes, I know what he meant Guatum, but he was telling me I was wrong about that. I know how high these things clock, and how high the AMD's clock, and the Super Pi benches.
first off let's put this to rest, it's stupid. a) i didn't say that b) if anyone else read what you wrote and understood what you apparently mean i'd be shocked.

The guy has run that rig for 16minutes, so it's also possible he could run some 3D benches. He hasn't yet, but if he can get that thing to go through a stable 3D Bench it'll own that too.
it's not the first time a pressy has been over 7ghz...

i'm not sure why think i don't know about intel either, maybe it's because i'm sticking up for amd. i share the world record of an 830, and once i get the cpu i'm going to try to get a 660es to 6ghz. then a 640. i know my way around intels, and AFAIK the only benchmark intel consistantly wins is superpi. i happen to like the benchmark but i am not foolish enough to believe that how fast my computer can calculate digits of pi has anything to do with real world performance.

[Dan0512]

Intel OWNS in the Extreme OC'ing world. They also look to be owning the benchmarking crown now too.



HEHE, too bad 99% of the people can't afford it. AMD owns on budget OCing....

Congratulations for something we can't afford :clap: :beer:

Maybe you should stop your Intel Fanboism, Fànboy..... You just seem to go from forum to forum and say how crap AMD is and how Intel beats AMD yada yada yada...

Ablacher

Dan

[speed bump]

^^^a 670 costs about half of what a FX-57 costs how is the AMD cheaper when it comes to Benching.

Only thing AMD really really has going for it is SLI and Intel/Nvidia getting along like crap.

By the way there has been atleast 4 670's over 7 GHZ.

[3DFlyer]

HEHE, too bad 99% of the people can't afford it. AMD owns on budget OCing...

Maybe you should stop your Intel Fanboism..... You just seem to go from forum to forum and say how crap AMD is and how Intel beats AMD yada yada yada...

Dan

You people here need to loose that damned word from your vocabulary. Just becasue somebody speaks the truth does not make them a fanboi. When AMD gets their act together (IF they ever do) I might change my tune, but I'm not gonna blow shunshine when none is there.

If you AMD fans don't like the info here, then don't read it. This IS the Intel forum. If you don't wanna hear about what Intel CPU's can do, then why read it?

If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretent that AMD is the king of the hill, and owns the records, and has the highest clocks, and owns in sales, then reading anything in this forum is only going to be a disapointment. Nobody in here is gonna lie and say different though when the numbers speak for themselves. :)

[kayson]

i know my way around intels, and AFAIK the only benchmark intel consistantly wins is superpi. i happen to like the benchmark but i am not foolish enough to believe that how fast my computer can calculate digits of pi has anything to do with real world performance.

How many fps you get in a video won't give you real world performance either...3dmark will barely if at all give you an idea of where your gaming performance is, but when you're talking overall performance, no benchmark can accurately determine "real world performance."

AMD and Intel both have their strengths and weaknesses, and everyone knows it. There's no point in arguing about it. Intel obviously dominates in clock speed (as a number, not necessarily real world performance) and superpi, while AMD will come out on top in 3dmark. So lets stop bickering!

[Dan0512]

You people here need to loose that damned word from your vocabulary. Just becasue somebody speaks the truth does not make them a fanboi. When AMD gets their act together (IF they ever do) I might change my tune, but I'm not gonna blow shunshine when none is there.

If you AMD fans don't like the info here, then don't read it. This IS the Intel forum. If you don't wanna hear about what Intel CPU's can do, then why read it?

If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretent that AMD is the king of the hill, and owns the records, and has the highest clocks, and owns in sales, then reading anything in this forum is only going to be a disapointment. Nobody in here is gonna lie and say different though when the numbers speak for themselves. :)

Your truth? If you are calling your usual generalisations the truth, then I seriously wouldn know what to expect from you anymore....

I don't have anything against Intel or these numbers, but your ¨truth¨confuses me most.

A statement you should think about tonight before you go to sleep- ¨if AMD''s short pipe sucks, then why is Intel going to move to it on it's next gen. of CPUs?¨

3x Ablacher



dan

[3DFlyer]

first off let's put this to rest, it's stupid. a) i didn't say that b) if anyone else read what you wrote and understood what you apparently mean i'd be shocked.


it's not the first time a pressy has been over 7ghz...

i'm not sure why think i don't know about intel either, maybe it's because i'm sticking up for amd. i share the world record of an 830, and once i get the cpu i'm going to try to get a 660es to 6ghz. then a 640. i know my way around intels, and AFAIK the only benchmark intel consistantly wins is superpi. i happen to like the benchmark but i am not foolish enough to believe that how fast my computer can calculate digits of pi has anything to do with real world performance.

That's what I don't understand. Why stick up for them? Have they done anything for you? They've done alot for me...give me a bunch of greif and cost me money. Why try to make them look good when they are not?

I know you know own those recods. I congratualted you and Fishy both when yo both were clocking those things like mad, and I'm sure you still are. No doubt about that.

Saying an AMD will clock higher though is just not true. That's all I was saying. I also said it looks like they are owning in the benchmarks, and dang man...you guys are two of the top runners.

Why in the world would you want to talk up AMD when those Intels are giving you performance and showing you different?

All we can do is talk about what we see.

There is sooooo much hype on here about AMD it's not even funny. How mnay guys have come to this forum and said "I need to know what's up in Intel land again. I had an AMD, but don't know what all the hype was about...I'm switching back" . It's *because* of all that hype that these guys are doing that. That gets expensive. it happened to me, it's happened to two of my freinds, and it's happened to many others here. I'm sure all of us would love to have that money back and could put it into the Intel system we *could've* bought had we not wasted our money. That's why I'm writing on a socket 478 system right now instead of a 775 based system...exactly why. The computer fun had dried up, and I had to junk off a rig a half the price I paid for it because it was useless.

I don't want a cheap CPU that clocks a little. I want a CPU that clocks as high as I can possibly get it. I don't want to hit a brick wall, or have one that spontaneously erupts in fire becasue it has no thermal protection. I don't want a gamer that games like mad if I'm willing to put up with bugs. There's always a catch with them. All I want is something that works like people expect them to, and when I turn it up I get expected results.

The Intel's work right. They clock higher than anything else out there. They are owning records. They are stable as a rock. They can be cooled well below -80 without bugging. Never a hint of an issue with the boards becasue they have a matched chipset. Yes, they run a little hotter, but that's what aftermarket cooling is for. There is nothin on one I haven't been able to cure in minutes on the rare occurance there was an issue, and generally it was a driver issue with the video card.

And people call me a fanboy becasue I don't want to switch from that? What person in their right mind would switch from something that is woring perfectly for them?

All you have to do is look at the two forums, and look at trhe issues. I don't think there is a single thread on the first page of this forum that is problem related. It is all general Intel hardware questions and settings. We did have some issues with some nf4 boards, but that's not Intel related. In fact, not being Intel is why they had those nf4 problems.

I use what I use becasue it works, and it keeps working , and it's stable and predictable. That is the only reason I use what I use. If somebody from the planet Zibulax came to us with something better I'd be using it. I have no love at all for Intel, for AMD or ahy other company. They don't give me free stuff, or pay me, or call me up and ask me how I'm doing. These computers are a *thing*. They aren't an object of affection. This fanboy word somebody came up with sounds so damned stupid. It's sooooo retarded.

[elec999]

It would be nice to have a cpu run at 7gig 24/7. Amazing overclock tho.
Thanks

[3DFlyer]

Your truth? If you are calling your usual generalisations the truth, then I seriously wouldn know what to expect from you anymore....

I don't have anything against Intel or these numbers, but your ¨truth¨confuses me most.

A statement you should think about tonight before you go to sleep- ¨if AMD''s short pipe sucks, then why is Intel going to move to it on it's next gen. of CPUs?¨

3x Ablacher



dan


It's very simple, because they know how to keep relatively high clocks with them now and can afford to do that without penalty. They are NOT going to shoten them like an AMD. That is one of the reasons I'm waiting on Conroe. I know the pipes will be efficient, they will be the proper length, and the clocks will not suffer. Yes, there has been talk that they will lower them some, but they are still higher than AMD with the shorter pipes.

With AMD you get one at the expense of the other. With the Intel we are gonna get *both*.

[macklin01]

Okay, this is now totally pointless.

I'm shutting it down (for now) and copying it to the green room for further dissection.

More comments will follow later. I'll try to cut out all the crap posts and reinstate the thread later. Tsk tsk to those who decided to start an AMD vs. Intel war. -- macklin01