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gigabit
11-15-05, 07:02 PM
It is a nice card and fast too .I just got 12130 in 3Dmark03 with no OCing on the card but my cpu is running at 2500mhz down from my regular 2.7ghz.It scored 5128 in 3Dmark05 and Aquamark03 it got 72808 all with no Overclocking only running in 3D mode which is 425/1000 2d IS 350/1000 .Im say im pretty impressed so far with this card.I let it auto detect optimal speed and it autodetected 538/1.22.But i haven't tried running it like that .The fan isnt loud except when you frist start the PC i guess its at 100% then. and its idling at 43c and my room is a little warm ATM.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4405244

d94
11-15-05, 07:10 PM
dammmn that card sounds beast...deff best val iv seen for $200
dude. run benchies on auto detect :D

gigabit
11-15-05, 07:16 PM
I will but im gonna let it break in a few hours i dont wanna burn her hup..lol

deception``
11-15-05, 07:23 PM
That's it....

Your autodetect clocks have sold me. Going to pick one up in a few days. The XFX had m y eye, but eVGA's step-up program is too much to pass up.

deception``

gigabit
11-15-05, 07:26 PM
Yeah i got the evga and it looks nice and runs sweet.Ok i just set it 502 core and 1.17 ram and ran Aquamark03 and got 79857.If you 2 guys get one you all will kill my scores since your OC's on your cpu's are a lot higher than mine.Tomorrow im gonna do some tweaking to see what i can get out of her.I didnt get her til 6pm stupid ups but it did get here in 3 days like newegg said.

Special7
11-15-05, 08:06 PM
Got mine today,

3DMark05: 5178 (6074 at 500 Core/1200 Memory :D)
3DMark03: 11908
3DMark2001SE: 24475

Just got this motherboard yesturday so I haven't had time to tweak windows yet but wait and see. :D

d94
11-15-05, 08:40 PM
Got mine today,

3DMark05: 5178 (6074 at 500 Core/1200 Memory :D)
3DMark03: 11908
3DMark2001SE: 24475

Just got this motherboard yesturday so I haven't had time to tweak windows yet but wait and see. :D
DAMN!
if i ever sell my gtx..ill buy one of these :D

Special7
11-15-05, 08:57 PM
This card is pure sex considering it only costs around $210 (got mine for $209) and matches a 6800GT at stock. :D Gonna play some F.E.A.R and then later probably tommorow run 03/01 at the same settings but after I tweak my os a little cause stock xp pro is well bloated. :p

gigabit
11-16-05, 05:50 AM
This card is pure sex considering it only costs around $210 (got mine for $209) and matches a 6800GT at stock. :D Gonna play some F.E.A.R and then later probably tommorow run 03/01 at the same settings but after I tweak my os a little cause stock xp pro is well bloated. :p
Special7
Nice card .Did you run those benchmarks in 3Dmode.I ask becuse i didnt OC mine at all and i got about the same scores as you only mine mine are a tad higher

No OC / 3D Mode
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
12130 in 3Dmark03
5128 in 3Dmark05
72808 in Aquamark03
------------------------
OCed to 502 / 1.17 3D mode
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
79857 im Aquamark
28608 in 3Dmark01 se

Special7
11-16-05, 06:51 AM
I only ran 05 oc'd didn't get a chance to run the others oc'd.

gigabit
11-17-05, 08:20 AM
My card wont run at its auto detected speeds it freezesafter about 2 minuts.But it could be drivers im still testing drivers out.Any body no of a good driver for me to try?
post a link if you do Thanks

Special7
11-17-05, 06:20 PM
Xtreme-G. :)

cre8
11-17-05, 06:59 PM
I got to get my self one of those is I don't get my 78gt this christmas

SPQQKY
11-17-05, 07:18 PM
Mine will be here early next week. Was supposed to get two but that will have to wait it looks like.

waver123
11-18-05, 12:31 AM
Hey guys,
Can you guys try rotating your screen with nvidia tab by 90 (landscape mode) and see if any overlay video works ? My tv tuner and also windows media player cannot display any video when I run in landscape mode, but works fine if it's in portrait mode (no rotation) with my 6800gs, I'm pretty sure it's a driver issue. Sucks that I have no such problem with my 6600gt.

BTW this is with latest 81.94 forceware from nvidia site.

gigabit
11-18-05, 05:09 AM
mine works fine

waver123
11-18-05, 06:53 PM
Hey gigabit,
What version of nforce driver are you running? I don't know why it doesn't work for me (I've tried 2 version of nforce driver). Thanks.

Seven7Thirty30
11-18-05, 07:44 PM
This card is pure sex... and matches a 6800GT at stock.

B.S. :rolleyes:

bignick
11-18-05, 08:20 PM
Every review I have read says that it runs step for step with a GT. In Benchmarks and FPS. All the game tests I have seen the GS and the GT were 1-2 FPS difference.

Rattle
11-18-05, 08:26 PM
Its capable of surpassing the 6800gt when overclocked, cores are hitting 500's memory 1200's

Both overclocked they are still close I would imagine as they are stock, but for $200 its the card to get for sure.

trendx
11-19-05, 12:03 AM
man that card is a definate value, that is a sweet OC too. GJ and GL pushing it further.

gigabit
11-19-05, 06:39 AM
Hey gigabit,
What version of nforce driver are you running? I don't know why it doesn't work for me (I've tried 2 version of nforce driver). Thanks.


My fault i miss understood your question and when i reread it and tried what you were trying i got the same results as you.Im using the 81.94's not that it matter's since its not working for me either

waver123
11-19-05, 11:46 PM
My fault i miss understood your question and when i reread it and tried what you were trying i got the same results as you.Im using the 81.94's not that it matter's since its not working for me either

Thanks gigabit that should confirm it's a driver issue and not my end, hopefully they'll have a fix soon.

gigabit
11-20-05, 06:58 AM
Thanks gigabit that should confirm it's a driver issue and not my end, hopefully they'll have a fix soon.
No problem glad i could help.

AngelfireUk83
11-20-05, 07:59 AM
I think nVidia have made a wise decision in releasing a new AGP card I'm saving up for 1 myself should be around £200 hopefully in the Uk anymore and I'll have to do more overtime at work lol.

gigabit
11-20-05, 10:49 AM
6800GS in agp nice

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27760

SPQQKY
11-20-05, 07:44 PM
I don't trust a thing the inquirer says......

ATI still looks better in the AGP area as it doesn’t have any major shortages. At the same time, it's getting very hard to find many 6600GT AGP cards around. The new 6800GS AGP will fill the gap and will get Nvidia in the AGP game as soon as it ships it.
When the 6800GS out weighs the X1600XL in PCI-E, how can they say that ATi looks better in the AGP area? If a 6800GS is to be released, which I'm pretty sure nVidia said they are not going to waste their time with, how will that change in AGP. Seriously, if a 6800Ultra or X850XT isn't enough for you any more, than it's time to move on to PCI-E anyway.

Rattle
11-20-05, 08:14 PM
I don't trust a thing the inquirer says......


When the 6800GS out weighs the X1600XL in PCI-E, how can they say that ATi looks better in the AGP area? If a 6800GS is to be released, which I'm pretty sure nVidia said they are not going to waste their time with, how will that change in AGP. Seriously, if a 6800Ultra or X850XT isn't enough for you any more, than it's time to move on to PCI-E anyway.


agreed

SPQQKY
11-20-05, 10:34 PM
B.S. :rolleyes:

What makes you say this? Have you seen any reviews, do you own a 6800GS. Seems to me your post is BS. A little ryme in your reason please.

Rattle
11-20-05, 10:35 PM
What makes you say this? Have you seen any reviews, do you own a 6800GS. Seems to me your post is BS. A little ryme in your reason please.

those 2 cards ya got there may give my 7800gtx a run for its money, run me some 3dmarks, i'm curious...
thnx

AngelfireUk83
11-21-05, 08:00 AM
Where abouts did you get your 6800GS from gigabit I can't seem to find them anywhere over here in the Uk yet. I'm thinking of getting one imported if so can you put some links to some sites which deliver outside the US please.

Many thanks.

gigabit
11-21-05, 08:03 AM
I got mine from newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130258

this reatailer ships overseas but im not sure if the UK is one of the places it ships to and they have it in stock
http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/help/international.asp

Super Nade
11-21-05, 06:46 PM
Hi Folks,

I got myself an XFX version from the egg for $215 shipped. The stock clocks completely floored me. Lets see how XFX ones overclock.

BTW, what are the temps are you guys hitting (idle and load)?

gigabit
11-21-05, 06:47 PM
Im getting 38-39c idle and i dont have rivatuner installed so i dont know my load temps.Do you have it now or did you just order it?

Super Nade
11-21-05, 06:50 PM
That is pretty good for the stock HS. My 6800GT would cook at 70C at full load. This is with a TR-V1. Go install rivatuner! I'd really love to know how these fare at full load.

Also, could you run a quick test to tell me what the temps are when you set the OC'd freq to AUTODETECT.

An easy way to do this would be to DL ATi tool and scan for artifacts. That really pushes the card to the limit.

Thanks mate!

gigabit
11-21-05, 06:54 PM
Well i had it autodetect today and it detetced 541/1.22 with the fans at 50% the idle temps was the same,But im sure that running like that would raise the temps a good bit.By the way the expert tool works on this card you adjust the fan speeds and you here it working not that its loud but you can hear the fan kick in and out.And ill test that tomorrow im about to get off line for the night

AngelfireUk83
11-21-05, 07:07 PM
Just waiting for the AGP version to hit Uk shores. :bang head

Super Nade
11-21-05, 07:10 PM
Great!

I always set the fans at 100% using Rivatuner :D

gigabit
11-21-05, 07:15 PM
OK i ran it for ten minutes it autodected at 540/1.28 and it topped out at 67.9c and my cases temps were 34c this was detected by the nvidia control panel river tuner and the expert tool

Super Nade
11-21-05, 07:18 PM
Thanks man. :)
I think I could live with those temps if there is no artifacting. Typically, ATI Tool pushes the card about 3-4 C more than most 3D Games. I'm really excited now. I hope my card clocks like yours. I've heard good things about XFX, my 6600GT clocked pretty good on the stock HSF.

gigabit
11-21-05, 07:22 PM
I think your's will OC just as well.But the highest i have ran any bench marks has been 502/1.1 and that was in 3Dmark05 and its scored 5900 but with out any OC it scored 5130.I wish i saved the frist bench mark,So these bad boys are in 6800GT territory id say.My buddies 6800GT running 450/1200 could hit 6300 in 05 and i think this card can do that.Even with 4 fewer pipes.It might need better cooling though.I cant wait to grab one more of these .Since i checked my chipset on my NF4 Uktra D and the trace's to make it sli arent even covered so an SLI mod will be easy and with 2x6800GS i think it will make a mean Gamer

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1468773

Super Nade
11-21-05, 07:33 PM
Beats my best x800xl (445/580) score by about 140 points. I keep my window open, so my room is freezing. That should help, right? :D

What are you referring to by saying SLI traces? I have an SLI bridge and another card would do nicely in an SLI setup.

gigabit
11-21-05, 07:37 PM
On the DFI UT LP NF4 Ultra D the NF4 chipset is an SLI chipset that the SLI wasnt activated on.But all i have to do is connect the traces and i have an SLI mobo.And i plan on getting one more 6800GS and ill need to find a SLI bridge some where even though you can run SLI with the 81.xx series drivers without the bridge but you do take a performance hit.I was putting AS5 on my Chippset H/S and was checking it out and compared it to other moddable chipsets and mine's the same.Nvidia forgot to cover the trace's on this board's chipset because by rights they should be

Super Nade
11-21-05, 07:40 PM
Mate,

I did the SLI mod too. Its very simple. I didn't have the correct pencil to do the mod, so I used AS-5 :bday: :santa:
Works flawlessly and is very easy to undo. Just make sure you don't apply too much. You must use a magnifying glass to have better control over the whole process.

gigabit
11-21-05, 07:41 PM
Cool were did you get your bridge?

crimedog
11-21-05, 07:45 PM
any of you guys ready to try this?
http://vr-zone.com/?i=2921&s=9

i was thinking of picking up a furb x800pro for some tec + vmod fun but if these cards respond to volts i may have to try the xfx instead...

gigabit
11-21-05, 07:51 PM
That guy had to do a volt mod to break 6000 in 05 im only 56 points off 6000 with only 502 / 1.12 OC .I must have a better cpu than him.I need to read that whole review..Crimedog why do you want a XFX over the evga or the leadtek or PNY?Just because of thefactory OC.

Super Nade
11-21-05, 07:56 PM
Got mine from g0dm@n. I think there is one on sale in the classies.

crimedog, that mod looks interesting. I'll give it a shot. 6k with a 12 pipe card is bloody good! I think you have to measure the resistance of the pencil you plan to use before attempting that mod. He didn't mention what kind of a pencil he was using. I bet the results would vary depending upon the pencil. By drawing a line across the resistor terminals, you are connecting a low resistance (pencil line) in parallel to the original resistor. Am I right in thinking so?

Edit*
Wow1 the review linked to by crimedog says that he hit 1300MHz on stock cooling! Damn!

crimedog
11-21-05, 07:56 PM
That guy had to do a volt mod to break 6000 in 05 im only 56 points off 6000 with only 502 / 1.12 OC .I must have a better cpu than him.I need to read that whole review..Crimedog why do you want a XFX over the evga or the leadtek or PNY?Just because of thefactory OC.
$10 more than the evga, if they're binning them it might do a bit better. the leadtek and pny are clocked lower and cost more

crimedog
11-21-05, 07:58 PM
Got mine from g0dm@n. I think there is one on sale in the classies.

crimedog, that mod looks interesting. I'll give it a shot. 6k with a 12 pipe card is bloody good! I think you have to measure the resistance of the pencil you plan to use before attempting that mod. He didn't mention what kind of a pencil he was using. I bet the results would vary depending upon the pencil. By drawing a line across the resistor terminals, you are connecting a low resistance (pencil line) in parallel to the original resistor. Am I right in thinking so?

every stroke puts down more lead which decreases the total resistance. more strokes = higher volts... man that sounds weird

gigabit
11-21-05, 07:58 PM
$10 more than the evga, if they're binning them it might do a bit better. the leadtek and pny are clocked lower and cost more
Newegg shows the XFX as open GL 2.0 and the other open GL 1.5 but evga says that its 2.0.Whats the big deal with OPen GL anyway?

Super Nade
11-21-05, 08:00 PM
Check this out:

And so it is! the core clocks much better than the older 6800 cores based on 130 Nanometer. I hit 515Mhz core and 1300Mhz Memory with default cooling and zero artifacts! The memory clocks amazingly well!, a good 30% above the rated 1000Mhz. Almost 6000 points in 3D Mark 05, that's 1000 points more than the score obtained at stock speed, and the great thing is that it even beats a 6800 Ultra at stock speeds

XFX seem to be really binning their stuff pretty good!

gigabit
11-21-05, 08:00 PM
Ill try it but not to night and ill need to grab Volt meter frist.Whats the best pencil for something like this?

gigabit
11-21-05, 08:03 PM
Super Nade
were is that quote from?
I bet if i cranked up my cpu to 2.65 and and upped the OC on my card a little id be banging on 6500 door in 3Dmark05 since my Cpu is only running right now at 217x11x5 with the ram at 2-2-2-5-T1

crimedog
11-21-05, 08:05 PM
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=264512
1.6 Pencil Volt Modding

This is a cheap and dirty method of quickly increasing the voltage from most regulators - I would NOT recommend it for CPU voltage hikes as they are prone to being highly variable.

The basis of the pencil volt mod is that graphite is conductive. In fact 2B/4B pencils conduct more than hard ones because they have less clay in the leads. For pencil modding you want a 2B pencil. An additional current path is formed around one of the feedback resistors by simply drawing or scribbling a line along the side of it.

To find out what to mod, the method is nearly the same as the conventional mod except that you have to carry out one more step: find the feedback resistor that connects FB and ground. I suggest you try to follow the PCB tracks first, and if the suspected resistor has the same value of resistance as what you measured at FB/GND then it's the right one.

I HIGHLY recommend that you monitor the resistance change with a multimeter as you are pencilling the resistor. To lower the resistance just rub the pencil down the side of the resistor between the two solder caps. You should be able to get a modest reduction in resistance, of the order 10%. Use the "new voltage" formula to find out what the modded voltage will be from the new resistance between FB and GND. To reduce the resistance just stick a cotton bud in there and wipe it off. Do NOT let the pencil dust get under BGA chips or between pins. That is a Bad Thing™

I have performed this mod myself and know first-hand that it can produce very variable results. Breathing on the resistor increased the voltage due to the moisture on the graphite! Therefore I do not recommend that this be a permanent mod.

i've never done a pencil mod and wouldn't want to, if i get one of these cards i'd do it with an iron and vr's

Super Nade
11-21-05, 08:06 PM
I think #3 should do pretty good. I would draw a line on a piece of paper and measure the resistance first. This mod looks to be a bit unpredictable. I'd rather use a precision single turn pot. I'd suggest you measure the resistance of the SMT Resistors first. Now look at his values, that should give you the value of the additional resistance to be used in parallel. This is what I mean:-

Net Resistance he got = Rnet
Value of the on PCB SMT Resistor = R
Value of the resistance required = r

You have 1/Rnet = 1/R + 1/r.

From the above, calculate r. Once you have r, see if your pencil trace can provide that r, else use a different pencil/a thicker trace. Note that I'm assuming that the trace connects the two terminals of the resistor and not some other point. The pic is not very detailed (maybe my eyes are bad :D ).

Good luck mate!

Edit*
The quote was on Richard Feynman's ( a great Physcist) blackboard in his office.

crimedog
11-21-05, 08:09 PM
if anyone finds results from people freezing one of these cards i'd really appreciate if you posted a link here :)

gigabit
11-21-05, 08:09 PM
Yeah that dont sound to cool how am i gonna make sure no pencil dust gets in there and under that cap .Well im not gonna be trying that. But i would be willing to try a volt mod on it.But my soldering skill's arent to great..lol

If i see any posts about that ill be sure to PM you with the link crimedog

Good night guys im off to bed

Super Nade
11-21-05, 08:17 PM
Later man.

One thing Ithe review spoke of was the lack of protective shims around the core. I'd be a bit careful if I were switching cooling solutions.

kswaid
11-21-05, 08:20 PM
crimedog, don't discount the x800pro yet. I got a refurb for $175 direct from ATI, and with vmod it does 669/1220. With cpu @2.55, and 2gb ram @ 2/3/2/5/2T I get 6884 in 3dmark05. With a pelt, I can only image what they would clock to.

I am very interested in what these 6800gs's can do with some voltage, though, because they are basically a direct counterpart to the x800pro. Good luck to whoever is willing to try it.

crimedog
11-21-05, 08:26 PM
crimedog, don't discount the x800pro yet. I got a refurb for $175 direct from ATI, and with vmod it does 669/1220. With cpu @2.55, and 2gb ram @ 2/3/2/5/2T I get 6884 in 3dmark05. With a pelt, I can only image what they would clock to.

I am very interested in what these 6800gs's can do with some voltage, though, because they are basically a direct counterpart to the x800pro. Good luck to whoever is willing to try it.

my thoughts exactly, seems like the nv version of the x800pro. i would get the ati direct x800pro furb if they didn't charge $15 for shipping, but the sapphire one at the egg is $160 so i'd do that. not sure what their warranty is though... damn i gotta make up my mind. i may just go x800 because i haven't had an ati card in a while and i know they like the cold.

SPQQKY
11-21-05, 09:18 PM
if anyone finds results from people freezing one of these cards i'd really appreciate if you posted a link here :)
I can probably bring mine down to 15c, but not super cooling. I won't vmod it until I get my second one. If it survives a vmod, I can run SLI, if not, at least I will have a second one to run. :cool:

jmike314
11-22-05, 12:10 AM
Just though I'd chime in.
I picked up my EVGA 6800GS today and it has blown me away.
- Intel Pentium D 820 (2.8GHz@3.1GHz)
- Kingston DDR2 533 1GB (PC4200@PC4700)

Out of the box, into the system, and with the latest 81.94s the card posted a 3DMark05 of 5139.

Mix in a little RivaTuner action along with some XG 81.94v2, and the clocks are now at 500/1200 and giving a 3DMark05 of 6016.

No artifacting...no snow...no hiccups to speak of at all.
The highest noted temp was 66C on the card.

I know there's more room on the 6800GS, so I'm going after an Artic Cooling NV5r3 now to see what else it can do.

Thanks for all the information you guys provide
jms

godofgorks
11-22-05, 02:09 AM
Thanks man. :)
I think I could live with those temps if there is no artifacting. Typically, ATI Tool pushes the card about 3-4 C more than most 3D Games. I'm really excited now. I hope my card clocks like yours. I've heard good things about XFX, my 6600GT clocked pretty good on the stock HSF.

Yes, your 6600gt does clock nice, now if I can remember which one was which. :p

Oh well, these GS's are really tempting, but I'm not sure it it's worth the price for me. Considering, I got this pair of 6600gt's for ~$250 and seem to be holding their own price vs. performance wise against these.

Going back through the GS posts looking for benchies to compare.

Okay did some figuring:

2 6600GT SLI vs. 6800GS
$250 vs. $200

6800GS
3D03 = ~12000 (stock, couldn't find 03 OC'd)
$200/12000 = .016667 $pp ($ per point)
$3D05 = ~6000
200/6000 = .033333 $pp

6600GT's
3D03 = ~16500
$250/16500 = .015152 $pp
3D05 = ~7400
$250/7400 = .033784 $pp

Results

Almost Identical performance per $. At least compared to what I have achieved so far on my 6600gt's and what would be expected to get on 6800GS. The 03 is fudged because I couldn't find an 03 score when OC.(hint) If I could squeeze 7500 in 05 it would be identical. So it looks like I'm going to hold on to these since I plan on a vgpu mod on both and shooting to get 600-620 core, and ~1250-1300 mem.

The systems were compatable, considering a A64 @ 2.5, a gig of ram. The only thing that would give my system an advantage would be my high FSB with low multi, compared to gigabit who is running a lower FSB and higher multi. I do not know how much more that would have helped me, or hindered him.

The major upgrade I see of going to this is that I would be comparable in price, and then I would have the open slot to upgrad to SLI. That and the extra memory per card.

Just to say, I've edited this like ~7 times lol. No use of frivilous back to back posts. :p

gigabit
11-22-05, 06:32 AM
Hey last night i set the core and ram to 539/1.28 and i forgot to set it back and i was playing farcry a little while ago with no problems at all.I think thats awesome going from 425/1000 with the reference H/S .Super Nade i think you will be very happy with your XFX.If what crimedog says is true and the XFX's are binned for better clocks i bet you can hit 550/1300 no problem.Im thinking about getting an NV5 or that Icestorm if it would fit.
I most say im impressed with my GS but this is the frist real high performance card ive had with 256mb.Ive had a BFG FX5900 128mb and a the Evga 6800nu 128mb and a PCI-E PNY6800nu128.Which i still have it only 3 weeks old sitting in its box.I wonder if i could run these 2 in SLI .Since the cards are pretty close and have the same core just differnt amounts of ram and clock speeds.The PNY 6800nu is a hell of a overclocker to. I had it at 475/850 but it would freeze in games at those speeds unless i put a fan blowing right at the ram .If i put better cooling on that card it would be a beast to and im sure it would run with the new 6800XT 128mb cards no problem


godofgorks
Thats some good work you put into that post.
Yeah it wouldnt make much sense for you to drop down to a 6800GS from 2x6600GT's but if you could sell them and get 2x6800GS's that might be.I bet you could sell both 6600GT's for about$325 /$350 and then out of pocket would be around $70 /$100 for 2 6800GS's.But hey your getting some kick ass scores with that pair of 6600Gts.

godofgorks
11-22-05, 07:14 AM
gigabit, first off thanks...

now...

I was wondering if you could run 3d03 while overclocked since I haven't been able to find any scores of 03 while OCed. Especially since your entire rig is very comparable to mine.

Also 6600gt's aren't worth all the much anymore, I bought the pair for 250-260 and could probably get that much out of them right now. I'm thinking about voltmodding over winter vacations from college, about a month from now. Then really test them out, and if they pull some sweet scores I might be able to get a little more for them.

I know they have a lot more, I just haven't much time to even get a good OC on the system. I have to sit down and actually go through the whole process, first testing out my new board, then my two venices, then ram, then each card, and then finally go with both together.

These 6800GS's are really tempting me, but I'm just a poor college kid, spending too much money as it is. LOL. Maybe I'll pick a pair up with some christmas money.

Super Nade
11-22-05, 09:20 AM
Yes, your 6600gt does clock nice, now if I can remember which one was which. :p


lol! I'm pretty sure my GT is doing 90% of the work and his lazy ass GT is doing the rest. :p

I think my 6600GT had 1.6ns RAM, that is why you see those killer scores. The GS has 2.0 ns RAM (if I'm not mistaken).


Oh well, these GS's are really tempting, but I'm not sure it it's worth the price for me. Considering, I got this pair of 6600gt's for ~$250 and seem to be holding their own price vs. performance wise against these.

Going back through the GS posts looking for benchies to compare.

Okay did some figuring:

2 6600GT SLI vs. 6800GS
$250 vs. $200

6800GS
3D03 = ~12000 (stock, couldn't find 03 OC'd)
$200/12000 = .016667 $pp ($ per point)
$3D05 = ~6000
200/6000 = .033333 $pp

6600GT's
3D03 = ~16500
$250/16500 = .015152 $pp
3D05 = ~7400
$250/7400 = .033784 $pp

.......

You need to depreciation into account in your analysis. In a few months, when the 7600 series of GPU's are released, the prices on these cards will drop to the sub 200 level. That would be a good time to add an extra card. I think you will see a better price per point ratio when that happens.

gigabit:
I was thinking about this whole video card binning thing. What happens to the cores that don't make the grade? You can't push them off onto a lower rated card, can you? So, in this respect, this isn't like RAM. Binning would be very expensive! So, I don't think there is any binning involved here. I believe every GS would clock similarly.

All 81.xx drivers support SLI with cards having the same core. Multi-manufacturer SLI is officially supported. Good to know that you have achieved a good OC with stock cooling! I was thinking about eVGA's step-up program, but I figured, I'd rather add another card instead of selling it. Plus, I really like XFX and their double warranty program. It would be good for somebody who would buy it used, from me.

jmike314
11-22-05, 09:27 AM
I was wondering if you could run 3d03 while overclocked since I haven't been able to find any scores of 03 while OCed.

I ran one this morning on my EVGA 6800GS @ 500/1200:
- 3DMark05 = 6016
- 3DMark03 = 13436

Hope that helps.
jms

godofgorks
11-22-05, 12:09 PM
I ran one this morning on my EVGA 6800GS @ 500/1200:
- 3DMark05 = 6016
- 3DMark03 = 13436

Hope that helps.
jms
okay so now for 03 with the 6800GS
200/13400 = .014925

So the 6800 is squeezing just a little more then the 6600gt's.

You need to depreciation into account in your analysis. In a few months, when the 7600 series of GPU's are released, the prices on these cards will drop to the sub 200 level. That would be a good time to add an extra card. I think you will see a better price per point ratio when that happens.
Also I was considering the buy one now, one later but I really want to buy two of the same make at the same time so most likely they will perform similarly, have same bios, etc.

I don't see how these would be binned since they are GO cores that didn't make the 16pipe cut and got cut down to 12, correct. It's not like they are then getting split between a 6800GS and 6800GSGT. One chip, one model, you get what you get basically.

lol! I'm pretty sure my GT is doing 90% of the work and his lazy ass GT is doing the rest.

I think my 6600GT had 1.6ns RAM, that is why you see those killer scores. The GS has 2.0 ns RAM (if I'm not mistaken).

LOL. The cards are fairly different, having different stock heatsinks, different bios, one doesn't read ambient temp, the other does. Might test them seperately and then I'll know which one is yours. The superior one. ;)

EDIT:

Just saw the news about the 7800GS. Going to wait awhile and see how these go. See how soon they'll hit the market and at what price. Not in too big of a hurry ATM.

gigabit
11-22-05, 03:32 PM
I just got 13669 no OC on my Cpu and card was at 515/1.17
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4420584

gigabit
11-22-05, 04:02 PM
just ran 3Dmark05 i got 6268
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1472382

Super Nade
11-22-05, 04:07 PM
Wow! All this with stock cooling? I can't wait to beat up my card on stock cooling :D
What were the temps during this run of 3DM05? Just curious as your core is a bit lower than your previous best. I think you can push you mem further with that particular core clock. Maybe you could do a quick analysis of how core clock affects memory clocks and vice versa?

gigabit
11-22-05, 04:27 PM
I just broke 1400 easy
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4420727

I tried to run 3dmark03 and 05 at 539/1.28 and it froze after about a minute.

ziggo0
11-22-05, 05:00 PM
Lets see some 15K breakage on 03 ^^

gigabit
11-22-05, 06:59 PM
Go for it you have the 6800GT you should be able to.But if i could run my 3700+ at 300x9x3 i bet i could hit 15000

SPQQKY
11-22-05, 09:29 PM
Will be going for 15k later this week. Will run my Winny at about 2.75GHz and cool the GS down to about 15-20c and find out how far it will take me.
Once I get the second one, it'll be SLI all the way.

Rattle
11-22-05, 09:33 PM
thats a sweet card ya got there, I was about 4 weeks early buying the 6600gt for the other rig, I really wish those were out then :bang head

SPQQKY
11-22-05, 09:55 PM
Super Nade,
Here are some temp readings during my 3DMark03 run. You can see the clocks as well. The room was a balmy 78F because my wife is a salamander...LOL. Temps rose pretty good, this was without any artifacts at all. Haven't pushed it to see the max core and memory until my wife lets me drop the room temps to at least 70F.

gigabit
11-22-05, 10:13 PM
Yep 68c is what mine went to last night with it at 539/1.28 and using the ATI tool scanning for artifacts it topped out at 68c

AngelfireUk83
11-23-05, 06:40 AM
Your using a ATI Tool on a nVidia brand card for artifacts scanning cool might try it myself.

gigabit
11-23-05, 06:43 AM
Yeah its the only thing that works on the ATI tool with a nvidia card.You can't OC your card with it or anything but scanning works

Super Nade
11-23-05, 08:46 PM
Thanks SPQQKY, for the SS.

Why are your rooms so hot? When my roommate isn't around, I turn off the heat and ambient is a cool 54 :) I'd like to keep the temps below 60C. But hey, if its not artifacting, no need to worry!

SPQQKY
11-23-05, 10:48 PM
Thanks SPQQKY, for the SS.

Why are your rooms so hot? When my roommate isn't around, I turn off the heat and ambient is a cool 54 :) I'd like to keep the temps below 60C. But hey, if its not artifacting, no need to worry!

Like I said, my wife is a salamander or something (I am thinking another reptile, but she might kill me if she finds out....LOL). She likes the air at 80F and still covers up with a blanket while I sweat like a pig. I prefer it much cooler in the house, but then we argue...........women......... :bang head .

Super Nade
11-23-05, 11:01 PM
Hey man, that doesn't sound good. Maybe her body Sodium/Potassium levels are low. My mom is like that and she has low BP. Better get that checked out.

SPQQKY
11-23-05, 11:13 PM
Hey man, that doesn't sound good. Maybe her body Sodium/Potassium levels are low. My mom is like that and she has low BP. Better get that checked out.

Actually, she has epilepsy and takes medication. It may have something to do with that, but then again her mom has it as well and she thinks it's hot when her house is at about 60F......who knows......she would prefer we lived in Arizona instead of Illinois. I often wish I was still in Minnesota. One year the wind chill dropped to -95F. We stayed in until the next day when it warmed to a balmy -55F. LOL.

SPQQKY
11-24-05, 02:54 AM
15k was a no go. Couldn't get the card to run past 540/1305 without artifacts. Only managed 14.8k in 3DMark03 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4423860).
Too tired to keep going in 05, though I had about 6.5k last run. Not bad for a $200 card. I probably won't push it anymore until I get my second GS in a few weeks.

Super Nade
11-28-05, 01:39 PM
Man I'm impressed! This is an OC right out of the box. No burn-in no nothing!
I'll post a few 3DM scores once I'm done dl'ing 3dm05 :D

A nice 61C (on top of the ATi Tool 3D Screen) at full load. I think this will slaughter my 6800GT.

http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/8267/6800gs0c6jn.jpg