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cowanrg
10-24-01, 10:47 AM
ok, i have an aircooled system right now, and for what it is, it does very well. i never reach 40C, and it keeps rock stable with a mild overclock. however, its LOUD as he11! so, i want to do watercooling. however, i dont want to spend too much (but im very technically inclined, so i can build quite a bit and make it decent...)

here is my idea:

petsmart or whatever has a magdriver pump, like 180gph for around $20 or so... i can build a container, silicon it all up for sealing purposes, get a decent waterblock from somewhere on the net, hoses at hardware store, distilled water/radiator fluid, etc...

but, im going to cool the resevoir with pelts... i will get like 2 low powered pelts, hook the cold side up the the resevior side, then heatsink the hot sides. i will most likely make a separate unit to set outside of the computer, and jsut run the hoses into it. i would do a radiator, but i think cooling can bet achieved better by pelts. which one you think would cost less, and be more efficient, pelts, or radiator? i would want some pretty LOW temps, and i want a close to silent system. any help?

The Overclocker
10-24-01, 11:11 AM
this has been done but it didn't work that well because the cold side has to be half out of the water or it will not cool down, also you will have to put the resivor out of your case otherwize heat from the peltiers will warm up the inside of the case, a better idea would be a bong which is very effective and cheeper, if you are buying stuff soon have a look at www.aquastealth.com from some good and cheep stuff, the best but more expensive can be found at danger den and caseetc.com

cowanrg
10-24-01, 11:22 AM
cool, i think i will just stick with a radiator.

does anyone want to give me some info on a bong cooler? i pretty much know what it is, but i want maybe some pics, or something like that. my only problem is i live in colorado, its VERY dry here, water evaporates LIKE CRAZY. and i dont want to have to refill this thing daily.

robertm
10-24-01, 12:18 PM
On a water bong.

The idea is to spray water out in a mist (Most just use a shower head) As the water falls it cool. To add in this you put a fan that blows air over the falling water.

But as you know the smaller the drops of water the faster it will evaporate. I have not built a cooler like this myself as I want a more compact unit.

But I have thought about doing one for the fun of it. As you can see there is a reservoir and Air dryer at the top to help recover water from evaporation. That should give you a good basic idea
anyway :)

Well I hope the drawing will attach we will see :)

cowanrg
10-24-01, 12:40 PM
hum, yeah. that is just a LITTLE too complex for me. er, not complex, but bulky. i want a smaller solution. here is another idea i had.

buy a SECOND waterblock. (one with nipples coming out of sides, not top). now, you have a pump, reservoir, and 2 water blocks, no radiators.

now for flow. at the bottom of the case is the resevoir, pretty simple, nothing special here. either inline pump, or submersible, doesnt matter...

the pump would pump to the top of the case, or outside of the case to second waterblock (the one with side nipples). it would be mounted vertically, and have a pelt on each side, with heatsinks on it.... (fans too). so, the water goes from resevoir to pump to waterblock (which is COLD). now, the cold water goes to the actual CPU waterblock. then back to resevoir. in this system, you really wouldnt even need a resevoir.

the benefit is that the pelt is outside of the case, so condensation really doesnt matter too much, AND its not heating up the inside of the case. you can have some low noise fans, because cooling the heatsinks in open air isnt a HUGE deal. and, since its a waterblock, you have decent flow of cold water...

i think it would be cool. if im going to do watercooling, i want it to be COLD, not just cool. it also has to be quiet. but a radiator is still a great idea. im still deciding which way i want to go. (price is an issue too, i want it to be aroun $150 total.

cowanrg
10-24-01, 01:32 PM
bump?

m1066ad
10-24-01, 02:28 PM
Well, it sounds like it'd work, to me...provided the peltier was rated to handle more than the cpu put out. Don't have a clue, what it'd cost.

cowanrg
10-24-01, 03:57 PM
well, i can get 72-watters for $20. not too shabby. add a hsf to each, ($30 more), plus a resevoir ($15 locally), i could probably make a cold water resevoir for around $75. this would pump COLD water through the hoses, thus really cooling the chip.

it's either that or a radiator, but i dont really wanna go that route, becuse i want chip to be really cool, and as little noise as possible.