Nvidia G71 (7900 Ultra) 90nm 750MHz

[RedDragonXXX]

Just when you thought you seen it all;

Dr. Vodka (I don't make that stuff up man) pointed me towards some links. It seems that NVIDIA is coocking up yet another high-end part, which makes sense. NVIDIA CFO Marv Burkett and VP Michael Hara at CSFB Annual Technology Conference 2005 revealed more about the GeForce 7 series where the 90nm G72 (GeForce 7200) and G73 (GeForce 7600) will be announced in Q1 next year.

G72 will be 64-bit and support TurboCache technology. Marv Burkett revealed that GeForce 7200 and 7600 series will last between one to one and half year. G71 will be 90nm and is expected to be much higher clocked at 750MHz. As for G80, the development process has been smooth and is slated for mid 2006 release which i suppose during Computex 2006. Also G80 will support Shader Model 4.0.

The new 90nm graphics processor units (GPUs) from ATI Technologies and Nvidia, with ATI’s flagship R580 chip and two 7xxx series from Nvidia, are expected to enter mass shipments by the end of the first quarter of 2006, according to Taiwan-based graphics card makers.

ATI’s current 90nm GPU lineup includes the Radeon X1800, X1600, and X1300 series, but out of these only the lower-end X1300 series is sufficient enough in supply to meet current demand, the makers noted. ATI’s next-generation flagship GPU, the R580, which the graphics chip vendor expects to release in January of 2006, should actually start shipping at the end of the first quarter, the makers noted.

Nvidia is scheduled to introduce its GeForce 7600 (codenamed G73) and 7200 (codenamed G72) graphics chip during the same period when ATI’s R580 hits the market, graphics card makers noted.

As reported on November 7, an upstream component shortage has led to tight supplies of ATI’s GPUs including the Radeon 9250, X300, X550 and its recently launched Radeon X1000 family. Supplies of ATI’s Radeon X1000 series should improve significantly by the first quarter of next year, according to the makers.

I'm glad to see that Nvidia is switching to 90nm then again I'm not because they need to slow down on the process of releasing vid cards. Although it will drive down the prices of previous product such as G70 and R520 (for ATI) game dev will start using new tech like SM4 and TurboCache and users like us will be left in dark and forced to use what we have unless you want to dish out another $500+ that you just spent on a new vid card which is few months old and the next gen vid cards will do nothing more then contribute to ridiculous prices that they are setting for vid cards today.

Another thing; even if you do get one you will need a new CPU as well to go along because today's top end vid cards are being bottlenecked by CPU's and unless you got FX-57 or top end Intel proc you might as well save your money. I know that next gen socket is around the corner but how many people will actually be able to afford the upgrade :shrug:

I don't know about you guys but I think that both ATI and Nvidia are pushing the limits that don't need to be pushed.

[tom10167]

Why not? If it pushes developers to make better games.... that's what the future is about.

Sounds to me like Q2, when the even better 7900GTX will come out, and prices have dropped off, is a GOOD time to build a new system.

[>HyperlogiK<]

looks like ATI may be back in the game, but Nvidia has plenty to worry them with still, which aside from your point about ridiculous release schedules and pricing (which I agree with totally) should be a good thing. Hopefully the number of rich idiots is reaching saturation point, as I can't imagine that there are a huge number of people willing to buy new SLI or crossfire setups only months apart.

[Blackmage]

Man, i knew i 20 pipes wasn't going to be enough looks like my intel SLI has come to some use now :D

[RedDragonXXX]

At this rate that they are going at no system will be top end for more then few months.

[3DFlyer]

I hope nVidia didn't release that card just to compete with the r580, because at the rate ATi moves it will be next December before we see it. By then, nVidia could have released 4 other versions. Whew...scary.

All this is about is nVidia proving who is on top, and ATi trying to catch up. I hope this doesn't contnue. It is getting out of hand, and is uneeded. Revolutions in game development only happen maybe every 6 months tops. Game developers are also not going to release a game that only the top 1% of cutting edge users can play. They go broke doing that.

I have a sim right now, that there is no video card or CPU strong enough for yet, and it's a real PITA. It comes down to who can tweak the best instead of pilot ability which is what combat flight sims are about.

Yeah, I like to see leaps in technology, but things have to work together.

[Careface]

hmm well said for you all, and i have to agree with this fast paced upgrading spree.. i mean, it was only a little while ago i found out "wow, shader model 3".. it took ages for the first games to even support SM3, and now they are bringing out shader model 4? i think its a little too fast.

Though, I do like to see both companies flexing their muscles, and i for one will most probaby be jumping on this new 90nm fab when its released as a "final" upgrade (you know, for a couple of years. if my old style gf4mx4000 can play ut2k4 with most settings and decent fps, then these cards will do me for a long time).

Having said that, im surprised about this. I was under the impression that nV was going to release a new gfx card during the ut2k7 release, but since they are releasing it next year, whats going to happen then? a new card? i certainly hope not. i would like to say "i have the best" for at least a few months, surely thats not a big ask? But they way they are going about it, if G71 is the 7900 Ultra, then wtf is the G80 going to be? the 8 series card? by god, that 7 series went and gone like a flash..

I guess only time will tell.

Careface*

[stang8118]

I was looking into getting a 7600gt for my next build. I just hope they aren't priced insanely high when they are released. Anyone have any of the specs on the new gen products? Like core/mem speeds? Pipes? etc?

[RedDragonXXX]

I was looking into getting a 7600gt for my next build. I just hope they aren't priced insanely high when they are released. Anyone have any of the specs on the new gen products? Like core/mem speeds? Pipes? etc?

Not much is known as of yet but most likely it will be 16/7 pipe with core of 500MHz+ and RAM around 1500MHz+.

[fordsierra4x4]

I would have thought that the 7600GT would have been to the 7800's as the 6600 was to the 6800's - ie, half of one. The 6800 was 16/6, whereas the 6600's were 8/3 - does this mean we're likely to see a 10/4 7600GT? Also, they're based on the same PCB's as the 6600's, so surely the memory is still going to be 128-bit.

[Blackmage]

16/7 pipe with core of 500MHz+ and RAM around 1500MHz+ 128 bit is more like it

[tom10167]

At this rate that they are going at no system will be top end for more then few months.


When hasn't it been that way?

[blitzkrieg1110]

At this rate that they are going at no system will be top end for more then few months.
I've gotten over my obsession with ''trying to have the best" because in this age of computers its impossible. Im simply going to be happy that my setup has played every game with decent settings at 1024x768 and until it stops doing this is when i will upgrade. I see no need to waiste my hard earned money on products that will be outdated in a matter of a couple months. But thats just my 2 cents. :bang head

[Avg]

nVidia is not only doing this to introduce a better product, but also to lower the manufacturing cost, a G70 will cost much less when it is shrunk down to 90nm, so in reality the clock bump is just a plus nVidia get's for having to shrink the die size, I just hope they don't get a prescott kind of situation with it though. Although I a little upset that my card will soon be more like a midrange card, it also means that I might be able to get a second card and sli it if the prices drop.

[d94]

dang
i just got my gtx :(

[3DFlyer]

When hasn't it been that way?

It's been that way for over 20 years I know. :)

[fordsierra4x4]

16/7 pipe with core of 500MHz+ and RAM around 1500MHz+ 128 bit is more like it


I doubt that very much. the 7800GS was supposed to be 16/7 but nvidia pulled the plug. I doubt very much we'll see a mainstream card with 16 pipes for at least another year. 12 is the max for the moment. As for mainstream cards using uber expensive 1500Mhz memory - erm, no. More likely 1 to 1.1ghz will be the limit - dont forget that the 7600 range uses the SAME PCB and thus the SAME POWER CONFIG as the 6600 Series.

[azu]

Hmm...At this rate even a 7800GT sli will get 4 fps in a year at the usual top notch settings.

[Chrome-]

I kind of like ATi and nVidia developing new technologies/video cards at extremely fast speeds, but if they keep this up, who knows where games will end up.

[Matarael]

Well, looks like I'll put off buying a 7800Gt for a couple of months to see how things go.

[madhatR]

i just went 512mb gtx sli .. which will hold me until the g80 comes out .. im tired of all these refreshs .... ill wait for the g80 prolly in dec

[inkfx]

dang
i just got my gtx :(
Why are you upset about that?

The release of these new cards will be great. I cant wait till the new AMD socket comes out and I get to upgrade.:D

[Flip-Mode]

Why are you upset about that?

The release of these new cards will be great. I cant wait till the new AMD socket comes out and I get to upgrade.:D
Excellent time to start saving big time!

[BenF]

I like hearing that the g80 will be out late this year. I don't really mind products coming out so fast; I actualy like it alot. I upgrade every 2 years so the more products that come out between that time, the better it is for me.

[siresword]

... lol and all i want is a 512 7800gtx

and wow 750mhz clocks... :o

[metloaf]

The way I see it, is that if you are willing to wait just a few months, then you should be able to get todays top-end vid cards at a pretty reasonable price. I would not mind getting a 7800gtx by then at all! I think that is worth the wait. :cool:

[Wiggles]

The way I see it, is that if you are willing to wait just a few months, then you should be able to get todays top-end vid cards at a pretty reasonable price. I would not mind getting a 7800gtx by then at all! I think that is worth the wait. :cool:

I'm still waiting. By then I might even have enough money to buy two of the 7800gtx's to run in SLI right off the bat.

[RedDragonXXX]

More News:

Crowd control, rumor control .. Inquirer is speculating again. The new high-end model from NVIDIA which until today I figured would be codenamed G80 might just be called G71. NVIDIA's latest graphic offering should start sampling as soon as next week. We also heard that ATI is prepping the new high-end R580 based solution pretty soon. And for thos that do not know: G71/R580 are the chip development codenames.

It's all in the promises now but we have a reason to believe that Nvidia is on the schedule with this one. We also heard that the chip should work around 700 MHz frequency and as we reported before it should feature 32 pixel pipelines.
Nvidia scheduled its launch and world wide availability in stores for February 2006 but if all goes well it might actually launch at the same time as ATI, in the last week of January.

Guru3D.com ImageNvidia sounded happy about 90 nanometre marchitecture and it thinks that its yields are good but we still have to see to believe. ATI is shipping thousands or R520 based cards and they are all available while Nvidia still struggles to ship any of its ghost Geforce 7800 GTX 512 cards. They are still on hold and it sounds quite dead to us as in three weeks Nvidia plans to release even faster card that should come in the same price range and it should cost roughly the same, at least we hope it should cost the same.

The biggest mystery now is what is faster 32 real pipelines raw brute force or the rumored 48 pixel shaders from ATI, we guess both Nvidia and ATI's approaches will have its positive and negative effects. We expect that Nvidia will win some of the benchmarks with its G71 while ATI will win some with R580, Radeon X1900XT.

And you figured your GeForce 7800 GTX or Radeon X1800 XT was fast enough eh ? Exciting times for sure though !