sl5qw @ 1441

[radadman]

sl5qw @1441 @127 fsb @1.9v

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Very nice..
ohh.. you have a 1.1Ghz 11x multiplier P3 CPU.. nice. well? how stable is it at that speed? What progs can u run? It would be nice if you post the pic or your system info at that overclocked speed.. and perhaps some benchmarks?.. :p

[Pecos]

Great OC! Welcome to the forum!

That's a 1.1GHz 100FSB cD0 chip. What hardware do you have that thing plugged into and cooled by?

Got any benchies/screenshots?

[radadman]

Just came in yesterday, have not done burn-in yet
Will post & boot xp but crashes @ 133fsb
post & boot & stable @ 127fsb solid!
running acad2000i, photoshop 6

abit vp6 just 1 sl5wq for now
kingmax pc150 tiny bga cas2 up to 137MHz
gladiator cu Heatsink
radeon 32m ddr
hercules gtxp
intel pro 100 nic/arescom dsl modem
klipsch pro media
enermax 300w ps
1 WD 40G
2 maxtor 15G
yamaha 2100 cdrw
kenwood cd

Sweet!

[ol' man]

As long as you got good cooling I would giver' another .1v. Come on get it doing 1466MHz:D

How in the world intel could get these cDO's doing these speed is beyond me.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by ol' man
As long as you got good cooling I would giver' another .1v. Come on get it doing 1466MHz:D


How in the world intel could get these cDO's doing these speed is beyond me.

Dont think that'd be any better ... Few more mhz's only..

Nice ocing man :D

[ol' man]

133fsb and everything running spec???? Yeah that would be better!

Plus having a PIII at 1466MHz on .18u would be absolutley astonishing.

Yeah of course it is a nice OC. First time I have heard of a .18u PIII breaking the 1400MHz barrier.

[radadman]

Yea I must have got a cream of the crop chip!
I'm am having some stabilty issues with sandra burn-n after 30-90 mins avove1.4GHz (with just mem bench) but dx games run fine.

so far:
CPU: totally stable 1366MHz, fsb124MHz, 1/4 div pci31MHz all at default voltage 1.75 sandra best 3626mips
Memory: hostclk+pciclk 124+31+155MHz at cas2 sweet! sandra best399/442MBs

I'm sure I'll get more...

[ol' man]

With a pelt and H2O you could hit the 1466MHz mark I am sure. I like these new celerys though, that is my nest endevor.

[radadman]

mbm pic >

[radadman]

sandra @1366 x 124 fsb

[radadman]

and of course memory 124+31=155MHz at cas2 with wpcredit tweak for via

[radadman]

My old pIII 700e had the voltage tweak to go from 1.9 to 2.2 volts. I understand the pins are different now, if anybody knows what pins could jump to get more volts i'm sure I can get 1466x133

[slick306]

How come my Celeron 850@1275 is almost as fast as your piii at 1441?
Slick.

[radadman]

You high score are cause your fsb is much higher than mine.
Here is more sandra:

[radadman]

ok slick let see how well your celery compares to mine in multi-media

[Yodums]

Bah I'd like to join the 1ghz club... *Rubs the dust off his 500mhz club coat*

[ol' man]

Originally posted by radadman
My old pIII 700e had the voltage tweak to go from 1.9 to 2.2 volts. I understand the pins are different now, if anybody knows what pins could jump to get more volts i'm sure I can get 1466x133

The pins are not different, give it a go:D Just be easy on it when you do so.

[slick306]

Man your memory scores are low, what chipset are you running?

[radadman]

yea they are low. its the via 133a pro cs. Actually I gave some bad info on the dram bus was not running hostclk+pciclk or what I had figured to be 155MHz even though thats what bios said. It was actually just the same as the fsb. Without getting the fsb higher my memory score will be low. At this point I must be at or very near to the limit of cumine, to bad I can't crank the fsb to 140 or more. I like to trade some clk cycles for more fsb. I actually ordered the sl5qv but edgemicro screwed up the order. I think the sl5qv would be a better chip because the fsb will be a lot higher at the same clock then the sl5qw's fsb. But hey I am not complaining at all!
Temps seem low enought i'm going to try the vcc volt tweak to get over the 1.95 max in bios. Maybe tomorrow after another all night sandra burn-in. I swear I'll get this rig running at 1466 x133 yet!

[Godfodda]

Just bumped mine up last night... couldn't wait any longer. :) Went to 122 okay, but higher was a no go. Running at 118 now at 1.80. I'll let her toast here for a while and try higher.

[Godfodda]

And the bench...

[slick306]

Yeah I hope you do! heheI am hoping to get my Celeron 850 to 1306!, but I need some better memory. The memory craps out at 138mhz :( I am gonna buy some Micron CAS2 PC133 hopefully that will be able to get my system stable at 150 cas3 ot 155 cas3.. we'll see.. good luck. I will post my multimedia score soon, I just have to reboot at 1275, and take out some of my memory that doesn't work at that and I will post it, it will be interesting I hope.

Slick.

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Originally posted by slick306
Man your memory scores are low, what chipset are you running?

He is running Via Apollo chipset, you're running a 440BX (the raw power) chipset, that's why. ;) That is a nice score for a Celeron 2. your chipset is giving you a boost on your overal performance especially in the RAM department. It is not my guess because over a time I have tried different mobos with same type of CPU & RAM (with each mobos BIOS tweaked up) and I had very low score on the ABIT SH6.

BTW, Radadman, congrats on nice OC on your 1.1ghz E cD0 CPU.

I also noticed that 440bx based mobos do put higher score in both CPU and memory benchmark. My SL5QV 1000E is at 1380 (138fsb) and here's the bench on the CPU.. and I will post the RAM benchmark shortly although I won't expect too much cauze the FSB is only at 138..

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=312688

[[OC]_SR20DE]

1380@ 138fsb

[[OC]_SR20DE]

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[slick306]

yeah at cas 2 at 133mhz, my memory does about 415/470 which is pretty good. It can't do Cas2 any higher it doesn't load up, it just sits at a black screen which kinda sucks... But the weird thing is I had a bh6 r 1.01 and I got like an extra 20mb on my memory!? and now I have a bh6 r 1.2 and my memory is slower than it was on the 1.01? I don't understand really. I traded the 1.01 in for 1.2 for the extra bus speeds, I guess it could have been that my pci clock was overclocked, but I am not sure.

Slick.

[radadman]

Yes that BX chipset still rules! I too noticed that scores are higher in my bx133 vs via 133. I have a abit bx133 That may be more worthy of the sl5qw. But my memory scores were higher in my vp6 with the 700e running a fsb of 140 417/462. So while the bx does give you a little more, the higher fsb gives a whole lot more.
The burning-in seem to only help a little so far. I can now post at lower voltages than before, but still can't run sandra stable @133 fsb even at 1.95V I don't think more power is going to get me much if anything at all.

[-=HN=- Wild9]

aghhh i wish i could get some results like that with my celeron :(

[slick306]

What does your Celeron do on benchmarks?

Slick

[ol' man]

Originally posted by radadman
Yes that BX chipset still rules! I too noticed that scores are higher in my bx133 vs via 133. I have a abit bx133 That may be more worthy of the sl5qw. But my memory scores were higher in my vp6 with the 700e running a fsb of 140 417/462. So while the bx does give you a little more, the higher fsb gives a whole lot more.
The burning-in seem to only help a little so far. I can now post at lower voltages than before, but still can't run sandra stable @133 fsb even at 1.95V I don't think more power is going to get me much if anything at all.


1466MHz for a PIII is absolutely outrageous. I think if you had h2o or something similar you could hit it. Are you in a cold part of the country right now. I know I opened the window one night and got my PIII 800e to 131fsb when it was about 0 deg. C out. I let it burn at this setting all night with the door closed of course. I also had a house fan blowing the cold air right on to the cpu.

My chip never did hit more than 127fsb at room temp so it stayed at a cool 1000MHz 125fsb.

[radadman]

Right now its air cooled with a gladiator cu w/delta 40cfm, so heat is no problems at all. I do have a water setup that I had running in the summer. It only got me 30 MHz and took more energy to run. Plus its scary having all those h2o lines running around thru my box, plus what if my kids forget to turn the pump on, its just not worth it. The only thing about it I liked was it was quiet.
I'm am still debating if i'll try the vcc mod. That too only got me a few MHz's on my sl4ch's. Right now I'm more worried about my low memory scores more. My bios has a glitch in it, the 1/3 pci divider works fine with the hostclk+pciclk function but the 1/4 divider don't. I could get my memory to 150MHz or so with the 1/3 divider but at the expense of the cpuMHz's & the pci bus being to high. I have to use the 1/4 divider to get over 1.25GHz. If the 1/4 divider worked with the hostck+pciclk I could get 160Mhz memory speed.
Any guru's out ther know if a bios flash would help me? its award bios on a abit vp6 mobo.


More sandra: I'm getting close to that 1.33 athlon!

[radadman]

But as you can see my memory score are low even with cas2 and the wpcredit tweak for the chipset. Must have more fsb's...

[slick306]

what is the wpcredit tweak?

[ol' man]

Originally posted by radadman
Right now its air cooled with a gladiator cu w/delta 40cfm, so heat is no problems at all. I do have a water setup that I had running in the summer. It only got me 30 MHz and took more energy to run. Plus its scary having all those h2o lines running around thru my box, plus what if my kids forget to turn the pump on, its just not worth it. The only thing about it I liked was it was quiet.
I'm am still debating if i'll try the vcc mod. That too only got me a few MHz's on my sl4ch's. Right now I'm more worried about my low memory scores more. My bios has a glitch in it, the 1/3 pci divider works fine with the hostclk+pciclk function but the 1/4 divider don't. I could get my memory to 150MHz or so with the 1/3 divider but at the expense of the cpuMHz's & the pci bus being to high. I have to use the 1/4 divider to get over 1.25GHz. If the 1/4 divider worked with the hostck+pciclk I could get 160Mhz memory speed.
Any guru's out ther know if a bios flash would help me? its award bios on a abit vp6 mobo.


More sandra: I'm getting close to that 1.33 athlon!

A bios flash wouldn't hurt plus it is not that hard either..

[funnyperson1]

thats about average memory scores for a Via chipset......my crappy ram cant even run Cas2 i get like 250/390mb/s its crazy

[radadman]

Flashed the mobo bios to lastest from abit. It did not help my 1/4 divider problem, but it did somehow improve my sandra scores and also made them more consistent. Looks like every sandra cpu test is beating up the athlon1.33 since the bios flash! I am beginning to know my cpu is maxed out already. This sl5qw is going to tease me to get to the magic 133Mhz fsb. Just like my pair of sl4ch's teased me @980Mhz they just couldn't hit 1Ghz without water. It looks like I hit a dead end with trying to improve memory scores too. But wait... this is just 1 cpu running! not only will my cpu benchs double but judging from many past dualing experences with bp6/vp6 the memory scores will improve 10-15%.
After much consideration and due to the fact that i'm not going to h20 this rig the vcc voltage tweak is out. Right now fsb 127 runs at default voltage(1.75), to get to fsb 131 takes the full 1.95 and temps climb with it. So I guess i'm saying I am at the point of dimishing returns now.
So here my last report of sandra: Sweeeeet!

[radadman]

wow

[radadman]

PS And yea I know its a crappy via133 & sdram

[radadman]

Oh yea I almost forgot! pray for a big prices drop this week from intel so we can all get one of these chips for $100!

[Godfodda]

Well, you've given me a mark to shoot for. I always like a challenge. :)

Don't forget to add it to the Database! The 1100 wasn't listed as of yesterday, but we can probably get them to add it. I like a challenge even more when it's blatantly thrown in my face like that. :D

[radadman]

Well I didn't mean it that way at all! but if your up to it...

[Godfodda]

Originally posted by radadman
Well I didn't mean it that way at all! but if your up to it...

lol I gotta take it that way so I'll do a better job. :) Actually, I'm about ready to toss this thing. Just fragged my HD a second time trying to push it too far too soon. Sunday nights and overclocking haven't worked well for me these past couple of weeks. :D

[Falkentyne]

Originally posted by slick306
yeah at cas 2 at 133mhz, my memory does about 415/470 which is pretty good. It can't do Cas2 any higher it doesn't load up, it just sits at a black screen which kinda sucks... But the weird thing is I had a bh6 r 1.01 and I got like an extra 20mb on my memory!? and now I have a bh6 r 1.2 and my memory is slower than it was on the 1.01? I don't understand really. I traded the 1.01 in for 1.2 for the extra bus speeds, I guess it could have been that my pci clock was overclocked, but I am not sure.

Slick.

Have you changed Idle Pipeline dram leadoff from "1" to "0" ?

That would make the difference in the extra 20 MB/s.

I bet you that BH6 1.02 probably had this set at "0". I actually remember the 1.02 bios (I had a 1.0x board) having an extra field in the BIOS Ram area, whereas the 1.1/1.2 had "sdram precharge control" enable/disable (which for the life of me, I dont know what it does, benches seem identical)

If you were running 124 FSB / 3, try running that on the 1.1 as well, and testing, BEFORE you tweak the idle pipeline dram leadoff.

Oh, you will need WBXTUNE to do it (BX chipset tuner..you should be able to find it on the web, but it expires in 1 week...... email me for a code).

[radadman]

133 x 11 = 1466!!! @2.05V temps-31c-43c ouch
4004 MIPS/sandra, right before the crash. Just can't run stable at anything over 129 fsb. To post takes a little less, but these are the voltages required to boot into XP:
124,125, 126 fsb @ 1.75
127 fsb @ 1.8
128 fsb @ 1.85
129, 130 fsb @ 1.9
131 fsb @ 1.95
132 fsb @ 2.00
133 fsb @ 2.05
The all night sandra burn-ins only got me a .5v less improvement on booting and nothing on the clock speed. Seems to run best at 128Mhz x 11=1408 1/4 divider pci=32 @1.85V temps 27idle & 37c max. The vcc trick alows 2.2V but I dare not try without lots better cooling.
I hate to but i'm taking off the wire jumpers it just is not worth the added instablity & heat to get the last few drops. How could I not be happy a totally stable PIII @ 1.4GHz+

[ol' man]

I don't know man I ain't gonna be happy till I hit 133fsb with my upcoming 1.2ghz celery:D

If it fry's there is always another one:D It is retail;)

[slick306]

I finally benchmarked my Celeron at 1275. Here are the multimedia scores. It is weird because I am way faster in Floating point, and slower in Integer.

Slick