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ppppp
10-27-01, 03:33 PM
hi all,

I have a ASUS TUSL2-C board with a Celeron 633/66 oc to 788Mhz. I would like to upgrade my processor it to a 1,2 GH celeron/100. Is that a good idea?? And can my board support it??

I how much can i expect to oc a 1,2GH??

Thanks all.

peter
copycat
10-27-01, 04:03 PM
in my opinion if there is something u want a big CPU its a waste of money!for example let me ask u smt.What will u do with ur new celeron 1200 u cant do with ur already existing 700 celeron? the answer is: nothing. the only diference is tha u will have some frames more in the games or some seconds earned waiting for something to be processed. What i mean is that if you are not a professional who makes video or audio editing in which you need a high processor,this is the only reason i thing for buying a better processor.:cool:
batboy
10-27-01, 04:10 PM
A 1.2 gig Celeron is almost maxed out already and has only half the cache of a P-III. Why not overclock that C-633 to 950? Or get a cD0 800 or 900 and overclock it to 1.2 gig?
ppppp
10-27-01, 05:25 PM
hmmm, you may be right.
THX.
Yodums
10-27-01, 05:50 PM
Its not wise to buy the top of the line ASAP...

There are better Celly's to oc... the 633 has a 60-70% overclock I've seen it to 1.167ghz...
batboy
10-27-01, 06:27 PM
Ok, here is another reason you may not want to get the 1.2 gig Celeron. I forgot about this when I first posted, but those 1.2 gig Celerons are the new Tualatin CPUs and unless you have a new motherboard that will accept a Tualatin CPU, it won't even work.

ADDED: Ok, I think your mobo might allow the Tualatins to work after all, in that case, maybe you do want the 1.2 gig Celeron, since it'll overclock pretty good and it has the 0.13 micron core.
Yodums
10-27-01, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by batboy
Ok, here is another reason you may not want to get the 1.2 gig Celeron. I forgot about this when I first posted, but those 1.2 gig Celerons are the new Tualatin CPUs and unless you have a new motherboard that will accept a Tualatin CPU, it won't even work.

ADDED: Ok, I think your mobo might allow the Tualatins to work after all, in that case, maybe you do want the 1.2 gig Celeron, since it'll overclock pretty good and it has the 0.13 micron core.

I believe his mobo can use the Tualatins... His mobo is fairly new.
ol' man
10-27-01, 07:43 PM
Shi# man, get the 1.2celery. You got a TUSl-2C! Should be good to go with a bios upadate. I can tell the difference when installing software and stuff when I am using my celery at 700MHz. Slow compared to my 1.2 tualatin. i am not a power user but I don't like waiting either.

Maybe you can join the 1600MHz Celery club I am sure OC.com will soon have. I know I am getting the 1.2 GHz celery ASAP. For a benji how can you go wrong. It is basically a PIII on .13u, no more no less period.

I guarentee you will see a major improvment with some things by going to a 1200@ 1600MHz. I am not a gamer but I miss my 1200MHz tualatin:( It was fast, especially when OC'd to 1500MHz.
ppppp
10-27-01, 07:52 PM
Hi Olīman

My thoughts exactly. my mobo is a new and very god one. So why not use the speed. And the 1.2 GH give a big difference. I have been thinking about upgrading to 256MB ram from 128MB. Is a god quality of PC133 ok?
PS I love speed.....

THX

Asus TUSL2-C with 128 mb ram
Celeron 633@788
Asus V7100 GForce2 MX400 32mb
batboy
10-27-01, 10:23 PM
Definitely get more and better RAM. With memory prices as low as they are, why not go with a 256 meg stick of PC150? If you do get PC133, make sure it's CAS-2 rated. Sorry about my first post, I didn't realize that the 1.2 gig Celerons were Tualatins. If I had your mobo, I'd seriously consider going with the 1.2 gig too, like Ol' Man suggests. No guarantees about 1.6 gig, but it should do 1.5 gig with good cooling and a little luck, maybe more.
Pinky
10-28-01, 12:42 AM
Oh, and the 1.2 celerons are really P3s, they kept 256kb cache on them to make them overcome AMD's duron or whatever the celeron's competition is.
ppppp
10-28-01, 05:38 AM
Hi Batboy,

PC150?? I the mobo is running FSB of 100 because of the Celeron 1,2GH does 150 on the RAM then make any difference?? Or is it me that don't understand it?? LOL

Peter
Lancelot
10-28-01, 06:04 AM
What everyone is also forgetting is that this is a Celeron with 256k full speed cache like the coppermine P3's only this is the new Tualatin 0.13u core so it will prolly even outrun it, and he already has the mobo to support Tualatins. If you have the money go for it I would say!
Yodums
10-28-01, 06:10 AM
It's all up to you buddy.. :D What type of heatsink and fan did you use Ol'Man to get to 1.6ghz?

And where can you find PC150? The local stores around here only sell PC133..
batboy
10-28-01, 09:47 AM
If you never run your FSB past 133 MHz, then there is probably no reason to get PC-150 RAM. Ok, here is why I suggested it. I upgraded my PC-100 RAM to PC-133 last winter for my Celeron system. By the spring, I had upgraded to a P-III 700 CPU and suddenly my PC-133 wasn't fast enough, so I had to upgrade to PC-150 because I'm running FSB of up to 157 MHz with my current system. That said, I did the math just now for that 1.2 gig Celeron which has a 12X multiplier. At 133 FSB that's running 1.6 gig. If you get PC-133 Cas-2 RAM, then I'm sure the memory will do a little faster than the rated 133 MHz, so in your situation, PC-133 RAM will probably work just fine, bcause the 1.2 probably won't go much faster than 133 FSB. But, it sure would be nice to have the PC-150 in case it does or in case you decide to use the RAM in another project, right?

Not many local computer stores carry PC-150 RAM. I got my Kingmax TinyBGA at CrazyPC (see link). These guys are awesome. They ship fast, have a fantastic reputation, and have great customer service. Several other good brands of PC-150 on the market too. I think Corsair carries some and maybe Mushkin.

http://www.crazypc.com/products/memory/memory.htm
[OC]_SR20DE
10-28-01, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Lancelot
What everyone is also forgetting is that this is a Celeron with 256k full speed cache like the coppermine P3's only this is the new Tualatin 0.13u core..

Correct =)

so it will prolly even outrun it, and he already has the mobo to support Tualatins. If you have the money go for it I would say!

If you mean prolly outperform in terms of overclockability, yes. If you mean performance difference in mhz to mhz comparison, no. At least not from what I've heard.. Perhaps.. I mis-read it. Somebody correct me if im wrong.