What should my setup be doing for points?

[dylskee]

My folding setup in my sig.

I was wondering what kind of PPD should i expect, just to make sure everything is working fine. So far i am getting 450 PPD but it's only been 2 days.

I was originally going to fold this setup during the week and intermittently on the weekends, (this is my main computer and games need to be played!) but after folding for 2 days and doing some encoding and burning at the same time, folding doesn't seem to have a huge affect on it.

I'm going to try gaming tonight and if i don't see any affect while gaming I'll let this fold 24/7. After Christmas I'll have an Athlon XP 2200 and an old Duron 1.4GHz to add to the folding cause. So I'll be looking for some info on adding multiple machines to my user name. I'll post back with my gaming results when i get a chance.

[pscout]

i have a 551 on same mobo with 1 gb mushkin 6400 at same oc as yours .. it is currently doing 613 ppd (EM3).
So I would expect 600+ ppd.

I don't game, but i would be suprised if you will see much if any impact leaving folding on ... but i guess it depends on the game. Ripping/encoding slow it down some, but those don't take long.

[dylskee]

600+!!!! Damn, i'm far from that and i have 2 gig of ram. I'm running the ram at a 3:4 ratio, will that make a difference. I can run at 1:1 but i get better benchmarks at 3:4. I also had to stop a few times today so i should give it a week or so and see how i make out.

[Joe Camel]

here is a PERFECT case of where GPU folding would really kick-in!!

imagine being able to tap into that GTX's PPD potential... :drool:

[pscout]

600+!!!! Damn, i'm far from that and i have 2 gig of ram. I'm running the ram at a 3:4 ratio, will that make a difference. I can run at 1:1 but i get better benchmarks at 3:4. I also had to stop a few times today so i should give it a week or so and see how i make out.

my mem is at 3:4 too - timings are 4-4-4-9. More mem does not make it faster once you already have enough. I recall reading a bit about (early?)1gb sticks of ddr2 being slower than 512mb ones, and some early 256mb ones being fastest. But I think things are starting to improve a bit.

I have most features of the board turned off in bios ... sound is installed but i don't use it for anything. It can take some cycles according to some reviews i have seen but i would not think it would impact folding much by itself.

Other than some sandra mem bandwidth tests when i get the oc set, i really only use folding as my benchmark.

The 650 has more l2 cache than the 551 but i would think that would only help folding, not hinder it.

I am on the same bios level as you, and my video is an ati x600 AIW.

I am planning on running Raid on it since i will like make this one my main rig next week or 2. I assume yoours is not raid? (I expect it may have some perf impact but hope it is small).



here is a PERFECT case of where GPU folding would really kick-in!!

imagine being able to tap into that GTX's PPD potential... :drool:


ya ... that would rock. BTW ... nice to see you Joe ... did you get the weekend off? ... is that xmas rush over yet?

[Joe Camel]

work wise...sorta, the TO DO list is only 1 page long now :)
but now the whole Christmas thing starts hitting...:rolleyes:

although i did procure a memory upgrade for 2x of my 3x P4 work-rigs...Classifieds > SOLD! (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=429082)

homer77 even gave me a discount since these were going into FOLDing rigs :attn: :thup: :attn:


while scrambling to come up with 1gig per rig (came with 512 but had on-board vid so it wouldnt show enough memory for QMDs) the mis-matched, "cheep-o" mem is bottlenecking these rigs down to 265-290 PPD.
that and stock cooling... :bang head

THIS (http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/searchtools/configdetails.asp?Base=1221657) rig with the:
2.8 GHz/800FSB/1M S775 and 512MB DDR400 PC3200 options

these are also my first non-Intel chipset boards too... :shrug:

EDIT:
the 630 option was NOT only > $10 when i bought these...
damn, they have the 640 option the same price as the 521...

[pscout]

work wise...sorta, the TO DO list is only 1 page long now :)
but now the whole Christmas thing starts hitting...:rolleyes:

although i did procure a memory upgrade for 2x of my 3x P4 work-rigs...Classifieds > SOLD! (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=429082)

homer77 even gave me a discount since these were going into FOLDing rigs :attn: :thup: :attn:


while scrambling to come up with 1gig per rig (came with 512 but had on-board vid so it wouldnt show enough memory for QMDs) the mis-matched, "cheep-o" mem is bottlenecking these rigs down to 265-290 PPD.
that and stock cooling... :bang head

THIS (http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/searchtools/configdetails.asp?Base=1221657) rig with the:
2.8 GHz/800FSB/1M S775 and 512MB DDR400 PC3200 options

these are also my first non-Intel chipset boards too... :shrug:

EDIT:
the 630 option was NOT only > $10 when i bought these...
damn, they have the 640 option the same price as the 521...

cool ... that should help in the battle for that #10 ppd spot you seemed to own for a while ... competition is getting stiff (ran out of smilies!)

[dylskee]

I just noticed in my windows task manager the the FahCore_96.exe is set to low priority, is this why i'm only getting 450 PPD? I tried setting the priority higher but i get an access denied error.

[pscout]

if you click on the cpu column twice under processes in task manager .. it will sort highest to lowest ... you should see the core consumming 50% since it is a HT cpu. That is the max a single threaded program can show. It will only drop if you have other programs consuming much of the cpu. Mine stays at 49-50.

You can't alter the core's priority through task manager ... the console controls that when it starts the core. There is a setting in client.cfg but you should not need to touch it if it is showing 50% as above.

/edit i didn't directly answer your question ... no .. that should not affect your ppd ... but it also depends on if you have programs running which are keeping your cpu busy. It is normally set to low so you can still use your computer. It will just consume all cycles when cpu is otherwize idle which is most of the time for most people.

[dylskee]

Thats strange, according to this stats page i got 900 points in a 24 hour period, is this correct?


http://fahstats.com/t.php?col=2&t=32&search=dylskee

[pscout]

sure ... your rig finishes each qmd in under 24 hours ... so depending when one starts you can get 2 from it in one day ... like a bonus day once a week (or more!) depending on how fast your rig cranks 'em out :)

Now u understand the qmd addiction some of us have :bang head

With current stanford wu mix, it makes the AMD guys :drool:

[ChasR]

Priority should be set to idle (priority=0 in client.cfg) unless you're running another DC project. Set to low FAH will not back off as much when other stuff runs and that means a noticable performance hit while folding QMDs.

[Misfit138]

sure ... your rig finishes each qmd in under 24 hours ... so depending when one starts you can get 2 from it in one day ... like a bonus day once a week (or more!) depending on how fast your rig cranks 'em out :)

Now u understand the qmd addiction some of us have :bang head

With current stanford wu mix, it makes the AMD guys :drool:

DOn't remind me :rolleyes:

[dylskee]

Priority should be set to idle (priority=0 in client.cfg) unless you're running another DC project. Set to low FAH will not back off as much when other stuff runs and that means a noticable performance hit while folding QMDs.
Yes, i have it set to 0 in the cfg file. How exactly can you tell what kind of file your working on? If i check my unitinfo it says, "p1912_ALA-dipeptide_umb2" what would tell me if that was a QMD or not? Sorry for all the dumb questions, i should probably do a little more reading on the subject.

[Who]

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html
Check the 'Code' column.
Also, EMIII will give you the type of core you're folding.

[dylskee]

Great, thanks for the link man. How does one get one of those 700 pointers?!?!?!?! Great Avatar who........ :)

[ChasR]

With a p4 you want QMDs. On a P4 6xx, single instances of QMDs are produced at a rate of about 155ppd/GHz the DGromacs (700 pointers) at around 95ppd/GHz.

[dylskee]

Oh i see, i have an 830D sitting here would that be a better folder if i ran the Dually or just run the single with my 650? Keeping in mind this is my main computer. I will be adding an Athlon 2200+ with 1 gig of ram and an old Athlon Duron 1.2GHz with 512k of ram to the fold after the holidays.

[pscout]

Yes, i have it set to 0 in the cfg file. How exactly can you tell what kind of file your working on? If i check my unitinfo it says, "p1912_ALA-dipeptide_umb2" what would tell me if that was a QMD or not? Sorry for all the dumb questions, i should probably do a little more reading on the subject.

All you will ever see (currently) running qmd's are 1910, 1911 and 1912's.

EM3 or fahmon will tell you what u r folding. I use both but only fahmon on my main rig since i use a vpn a lot on it which cuts of lan access to the rest of my rigs. I run em3 on my secondary 'main' rig.

[pscout]

Oh i see, i have an 830D sitting here would that be a better folder if i ran the Dually or just run the single with my 650? Keeping in mind this is my main computer. I will be adding an Athlon 2200+ with 1 gig of ram and an old Athlon Duron 1.2GHz with 512k of ram to the fold after the holidays.

The 830D rocks for folding ... run them dual with both set for QMD's ... i have 3 of 'em oc'ed between 250 and 270 fsb - they each produce around 800 ppd.
If you only run 1 qmd instance on the dual core u will get in the 500+ range OC'ed.

HOWEVER, since they aren't my main rigs, i can't really comment much on their usability running dual folding instances ... but since there is no HT on them I am guessing it would not be as responsive as a single instance on your 650. But i could be wrong on that since the dual core is different and probably better than HT ... but 2 QMD's are a heavy memory and bandwidth hit.

When i rework my setup here over xmas, i wil likely make my 551 my main rig relagating my current sig rig to the folding farm. May try 1 of the 830's as my secondary 'main' rig - the one 830 rig with 2GB (the others are both 1GB). I may even sell off my old sig rig since i see my mobo and 478's going for really high prices right now on ebay ... then i would replace it with new stuff for folding. :santa:

The other BIG consideration with dual folding on the 830 is heat ... u will get a lot! 2 of mine are caseless and 1 in case. The cased one is very (too) warm. I will be moving it out of case and/or watercooling it if i use it as my secondary rig. Need lots of cfm on air and a very good cooler if u want to OC it much.
Mine are OC'ed to 250-270 fsb. The 250 is the cased one .... limited by temps. Most big OC's on the dual cores are on at least good watercooling from my reading.

The big heat and power needs of the current dual cores is why many folks are waiting for intels new ones. I am just impatient (and dumb?). :D