xbox360 stolen!

[theELVISCERATOR]

This guy waits 16 hours in freezing temps then gets it stolen 15 minutes later.

Kinda funny really...A present for his fiance...righttttt.......

http://www.wndu.com/news/122005/news_46695.php

[Malpine Walis]

I don't care how much he loves the woman, nobody stands in the freezing cold for 16 hours for a gift. He bought it for himself.

And I have said it in about four threads already, Microsnot has millions of the things in a warehouse somewhere ready to flood the stores with right after the fuss dies down. Right now, they are shipping them to store 10 at a time to make a fake impression that they are hard to come by. This happens to at least one product every christmas and people buy the hype as if it was really true.

If anyone wants one badly enough, just wait until March and the stores will have plenty of them.

[Frodo Baggins]

I don't care how much he loves the woman, nobody stands in the freezing cold for 16 hours for a gift. He bought it for himself.

And I have said it in about four threads already, Microsnot has millions of the things in a warehouse somewhere ready to flood the stores with right after the fuss dies down. Right now, they are shipping them to store 10 at a time to make a fake impression that they are hard to come by. This happens to at least one product every christmas and people buy the hype as if it was really true.

If anyone wants one badly enough, just wait until March and the stores will have plenty of them.

Why is this, Malpine? I mean, why wouldn't Microsoft sell as much as they can. The only reason I can think of for higher demand is to drive prices up. But for one, the price is fixed, and for another, it seems people will buy at nearly any cost.

So if the company can sell for X number of dollars to 100 people, why sell it for X dollars to only 50 people. You're right in the fact that it creates this hype that "gee, the X-Box must be a hot toy right now, with everybody waiting in line", but in terms of profit, I don't see how it helps with anything.

If Microsoft could sell one X-Box for retail price to every single family in America, why wouldn't they? You're saying they would sell to only 1/10 families...and what possible good would this do? They'll make less profit.

[3DFlyer]

Well, he didn't loose much. The thieves are gonna loose more when they recall the things, and they don't have a receipt for it because they ripped it off. I'm thin king the plan here is to wait until after christmas when they have ripped off all the people going looney over the things and then recall them. They then can use all the extra money they made to apply the fix, and they'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

[shard]

Why is this, Malpine? I mean, why wouldn't Microsoft sell as much as they can. The only reason I can think of for higher demand is to drive prices up. But for one, the price is fixed, and for another, it seems people will buy at nearly any cost.

So if the company can sell for X number of dollars to 100 people, why sell it for X dollars to only 50 people. You're right in the fact that it creates this hype that "gee, the X-Box must be a hot toy right now, with everybody waiting in line", but in terms of profit, I don't see how it helps with anything.

If Microsoft could sell one X-Box for retail price to every single family in America, why wouldn't they? You're saying they would sell to only 1/10 families...and what possible good would this do? They'll make less profit.

Its all about the marketing in this situation, they know that by lossing some now, and doing a publicity stunt, they will rake in much more later when they give out more 360's.

[Malpine Walis]

Why is this, Malpine? I mean, why wouldn't Microsoft sell as much as they can. The only reason I can think of for higher demand is to drive prices up. But for one, the price is fixed, and for another, it seems people will buy at nearly any cost.

And how much are they charging for one if you can even get it? $840 with four games over at ebx. Remember that this is for a console not a real computer. What do you do with it in two years? More memory, bigger hard drive and a new graphics card? No, you throw it out and start over.

Also, when I checked ebx, it says that if you did not pre-order it early, you will not get it until March. Right when I already predicted that M/S will be releasing the mother load into circulation. Do you think that the price will go down when this happens? Probably by like $50 but I doubt that you will see a steep price cut now that they have established a lordly price for a console with a 20GB HD.

[threeme2189]

stupid....
just buy a pc. you know whats good about them? you can UPGRADE them!!!!!!

[DerekDRP]

stupid....
just buy a pc. you know whats good about them? you can UPGRADE them!!!!!!

AH MEN BROTHER haha. that is so true. and who wants a peice of s**** anways? from what I heard it over heats ( fire risk ) the graphix are buggy and is over priced pc pretty much ) not even an afordible game console ( wich it should be ) thats what Atari and other makers wanted the game console's to be was AFFORIDIBLE.

[shellshock]

I was at the mall firday,and fye's securty guards was escorting people out with 360's if the people wanted. Its just insane

[Overclocker550]

whats the hurry? Ill buy one in like 2 years cheap and there will be tons of games out for it by then!

[Captain Newbie]

Yeah, no rush to adopt a console here...

[ryanmartini]

Thats nothing. Heres a true story.

My Aunt Lauren lives in Chattanooga, TN at a hospital in the MRI department. One of the people in the department went to walmart and got a 360. Upon arriving outside the building, a gun was put to his head at his car, and it was stolen from him. It was all over the news and everything.

Lesson: Dont get things on opening day =p

[Illah]

Its all about the marketing in this situation, they know that by lossing some now, and doing a publicity stunt, they will rake in much more later when they give out more 360's.

Reality: Microsoft is rolling them out simultaneously worldwide instead of the usual market-to-market rollout in a rush to innundate the market during the holidays. This is spreading them a bit too thin and thus they are unable to keep up with the demand. Think how Sony or Nintendo releases everything in Japan months before we see those products in the US - they do that so they can produce to keep up with demand in Japan, then as demand rolls off a bit they move to the US, where demand is again high, and then in a few months they go to Europe, etc...

The head of Xbox has a personal and professional feud with Sony, and the worldwide rollout is his attempt to beat the PS3. Fun fact - he used to be the head of the Sega Dreamcast division. We all know what happened there, and how the PS2 came to dominate the market with more share than all the other major consoles (60% share I think). Now he wants to head off the PS3 as a sort of 'revenge'. He's quite open about this - it was in a recent Fortune or Business 2.0 article, forget which one.

At this point the fire has been set and is burning white hot. If they flooded stores with the millions of 'hidden' 360's it would be a major payday at Microsoft. Not only that, they would much more easily pre-emp the PS3 by allowing even more people to start dumping money into the 360, which would make it harder to justify another console purchase only a few months from now. There's no reason to continue building hype. It's already there, and at this time of year people are really loose with their money. Waiting until January or February, when retail drops off dramatically due to consumers dealing with the debt of holiday shopping, makes no sense really.

--Illah

[shard]

Thats nothing. Heres a true story.

My Aunt Lauren lives in Chattanooga, TN at a hospital in the MRI department. One of the people in the department went to walmart and got a 360. Upon arriving outside the building, a gun was put to his head at his car, and it was stolen from him. It was all over the news and everything.

Lesson: Dont get things on opening day =p

The greed and nerve of people. Someone does that, I hand it over, and as they run, put a bullet in their back.

[Malpine Walis]

Another reality: This is exactly what happened with several other products over the past 20 years. The cabbage patch people pulled it off sucessfully two or three times in the 80s and every christmas since companies have tried this form of marketing with some degree of sucess.

I think that the most recent example that made for a huge corporate payoff was the Tickle-me-Elmo about 5 or so years ago.

[DerekDRP]

Another reality: This is exactly what happened with several other products over the past 20 years. The cabbage patch people pulled it off sucessfully two or three times in the 80s and every christmas since companies have tried this form of marketing with some degree of sucess.

I think that the most recent example that made for a huge corporate payoff was the Tickle-me-Elmo about 5 or so years ago.

If the cabbage patch people made Garbage pale kids? would you have gotten one for "later sale on ebay"?

[Audioaficionado]

Another reality: This is exactly what happened with several other products over the past 20 years. The cabbage patch people pulled it off sucessfully two or three times in the 80s and every christmas since companies have tried this form of marketing with some degree of sucess.

I think that the most recent example that made for a huge corporate payoff was the Tickle-me-Elmo about 5 or so years ago.Ouch! I got bit three times by them when they first came out over 20 years ago. My kids just had to have them and then destroyed them in a few years of abuse. Now you couldn't get $5 for the ragged looking filthy things.

As for the Xbox hype, the old quote "A fool and his money are soon parted" still rings true today. However there might be a shortage of those triple core processors Microsoft is getting from IBM. I've read there are some yield issues. Microsoft may be making a silk purse from sow's ears in this case by making a good market ploy from a bad supply situation.

[shellshock]

Thats nothing. Heres a true story.

My Aunt Lauren lives in Chattanooga, TN at a hospital in the MRI department. One of the people in the department went to walmart and got a 360. Upon arriving outside the building, a gun was put to his head at his car, and it was stolen from him. It was all over the news and everything.

Lesson: Dont get things on opening day =p

no no, its carry a gun with you on opening day. LOL :D

[z0n3]

I am in agreement with Illah. Microsoft isn't selling more units because they don't have anymore to sell. If they had them they would start selling them by now. This is not a case of Microsoft being greedy or manipulative. Though like all major companies they certainly are. This is just a case of Microsoft being out of stock.

About the armed robbery: This is why I try to buy new releases online. I don't want to have to game with holes in my body.

[Illah]

From the NY Times:

"There are five million people who have made up their minds they are getting a 360 for Christmas and 500,000 who are getting them," said Michael Pachter, a video game analyst with Wedbush Morgan Securities. Instead of buying games for old systems, he said, "They're saying, 'Let's wait for a 360.' "

"It's the worst quarter in 10 years" for the industry, Mr. Pachter added.

According to NPD, Mr. Pachter noted, Microsoft has sold around 320,000 consoles in North America since the Xbox 360's debut on Nov. 22, and he projected 200,000 more could be sold by the end of the year. Those figures are far below earlier analyst projections that Microsoft would sell as many as 1.5 million consoles over the holiday season. Inventory of the console has been essentially exhausted in North America, and Microsoft says it is getting consoles to retailers as quickly as it can produce them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/21/technology/21game.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1135208077-Pckp1/aPgl8f7NuMQgquww

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--Illah

[deRusett]

Another reality: This is exactly what happened with several other products over the past 20 years. The cabbage patch people pulled it off sucessfully two or three times in the 80s and every christmas since companies have tried this form of marketing with some degree of sucess.

I think that the most recent example that made for a huge corporate payoff was the Tickle-me-Elmo about 5 or so years ago.

Those other products are not the same as a Console, a Console is about making the additional income from software sales, by holding off and stock piling they are leaving room for people to get PS3's instead of XBoxs later, then not only is the sale of the console lost, but so is the sale of future games, and a potential Xbox Live subscriber. IF MS was stock piling there best bet would be to release a stock pile this week into Xmas for the late shoppers, or the people who couldn't get there hands on one, the surplus spills over into Boxing week, and this is when you pump out your game sales from all the kids who got Xbox machines but only a single game.

[drenader]

Oh yea because boxing week is huge in the states? you crazy canadians.