View Full Version : Is 3DLabs the newest competitor?
Kingslayer
10-28-01, 08:21 PM
http://www.3dlabs.com/
Check it out. They have a new Wildcat II 5110 that according to their test all but destroys the GForce 3.
I don't know how realistic it is, but it does has 80 meg of memory on it....but for $1500 it better spank the GForce.
Dedicated 32MB frame buffer, 32MB texture memory & 16MB DirectBurst memory. Pretty impressive. And OpenGL acceleration. I bet this is one smokin card.
Warlord2
10-28-01, 08:41 PM
I would like to see the score it would get using 3dmark 2001
]-[itman
10-28-01, 08:57 PM
First, Even if it does kill the GeForce 3 who's going to be willing to spend $1500 on a card? This card may take over the (hmm what's the word for it)professional market but it can't compete in the home user market where nVidia is concentrated. I think what they're trying to do is tell all the pro's who think the GeForce is the verry best card there is (excluding the price factor) that there's a better card for what they do. Also, they call those benchmarks real world applications. I don't consider those real world applications. I'd like to see some Quake benchies in there as well as maybe time some video and animation editing/creating software.
Kingslayer
10-29-01, 11:46 AM
You don't see Quake benchies because this card is above Quake and the other ****ant games we through at other cards. This card is made for 3D rendering, CAD/CAM drawing, and stuff of that sort.
But with the OpenGL acceleration I'm sure it would blow the heatsinks off any "video card" that we gamers run.
]-[itman
10-29-01, 12:05 PM
I realize that this card is more advanced than our thinking of a good card(i.e. GeForce3, Radeon8500) it's just that if they're going to compare the cards atleast compare them in all areas not just what it's designed for. I'm sure it'll kick the crap outta the GeForce3 but I'd really like to see how much better it is for $1000 more ;).
Kingslayer
10-29-01, 01:00 PM
For $1000 more, it better be 3 times better.
I'm sure it is. I wonder if anyone at 3DLabs would be stupid enough to believe that I would like them to send me one for free to test.....
]-[itman
10-29-01, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Kingslayer
For $1000 more, it better be 3 times better.
I'm sure it is. I wonder if anyone at 3DLabs would be stupid enough to believe that I would like them to send me one for free to test.....
Maybe if you promise to promote their product as much as you can on www.overclockers.com I'm sure that'll be their deciding factor ;)
Kingslayer
10-29-01, 02:22 PM
Hey, that's 10,000 free advertisments for them. No one here ever heard of that card and the only reason that I stumbled upon it was because I was looking for XP drivers for an old 3DLabs Permedia 8Meg card.
They could use the free advertisement.
]-[itman
10-29-01, 02:38 PM
true but how many ppl here are going to spend $1500 on a card? Heck, how many ppl here have $1500?
About 2 years ago I read a roundup of Professional (over $1000) cards in a magazine here in the UK. The mag had just got hold of a Geforce 1 and decided to throw it in and see how it compared with the others. Well in the pro appz the results were similar to the review on 3dlabs website- but in Quake and other games the pro cards fell apart totally. They decided that it was all due to driver optimizations ie the pro cards all came with drivers that worked well with 'serious' appz but the Geforce drivers were unoptimized for anything apart from games.
Who cares.
Didn't a Quadro Geforce render scenes from Final Fantasy in real time at a graphics show recently?
And we still have Geforce 4 to look forward to next april....
Originally posted by ka
About 2 years ago I read a roundup of Professional (over $1000) cards in a magazine here in the UK. The mag had just got hold of a Geforce 1 and decided to throw it in and see how it compared with the others. Well in the pro appz the results were similar to the review on 3dlabs website- but in Quake and other games the pro cards fell apart totally. They decided that it was all due to driver optimizations ie the pro cards all came with drivers that worked well with 'serious' appz but the Geforce drivers were unoptimized for anything apart from games.
Who cares.
Didn't a Quadro Geforce render scenes from Final Fantasy in real time at a graphics show recently?
And we still have Geforce 4 to look forward to next april....
GeForce 4 already next APRIL?! WTF thats like half a year away.
]-[itman
10-29-01, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Yodums
GeForce 4 already next APRIL?! WTF thats like half a year away.
That's about the pace that nVidia's been going with their cards.
Bah the GeForce 2 were made long time ago :D
]-[itman
10-29-01, 09:20 PM
Ya but only the first version. Look at all the new technologies they've come out with since then. MX's, GTS's, Ti's. Plus before they didn't have such a prominent company with their own fanATIcs breathing down their necks
Über~PhLuBB
10-30-01, 02:18 AM
Alot of their cards whup the GF3, but they're not made for gaming. They're made for 3D Design. They always have been, and they always will be. You can't game with a Wildcat, and you can't do CAD with a GF3. (Not effectively anyway)
RedDeathDrinker
10-30-01, 04:22 AM
Eechie-wa wa!
That card is big.......
We've just taken delivery of 20 SunBlade workstations for our CAD team, and are evaluating one of the new Silicon Graphics Octane 2's.............
Now those are CAD-puppies...........
Kingslayer
10-30-01, 07:37 AM
I know it is big, and I like the fan holder at the back. It looks way bigger than a DooDoo2 dont it? I would really like to see how well it renders with only 80 Meg of memory on it though. I have seen pro cards with 128 and 256 of memory.
Creative used to have a pro version of the TNT2 Ultra for sale on a hidden section of their site. It was 128 meg of memory. $1200 too.
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