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simon389
10-29-01, 02:03 AM
I can get proably 20-50 computers here at Calvin.edu to fold in their spare time, but I need to work out a problem.

Maybe its just the server, cause it can connect to the stanford server to get a COMP ID #.

But when it goes from there it only says

:mad: "Could not get work instructions (retrying in 5 minutes)":mad:

I have a proxy firewall here, but it gets through with the settings set correctly.

Are any new folding members getting this error? Are the "new member" servers not up right now?

Thanks and BTW

Fold on bruthas........

Ebola
10-29-01, 05:07 AM
That would be cool if you got a few extra computers. Stanford's servers are sometimes screwy. Did you try installing the full client with graphical interface or the commandline console?

Ploaf
10-29-01, 06:33 AM
In reading a few forums and from my own experience yesterday it would seem that there was a problem with one of the servers. It eventually redirected to another server.

As for connecting through the proxy.... The client will use http if necessary to connect to the servers. That is enough, in most cases, to get through firewalls/proxies. There is also a way to configure the client for your proxy, but I haven't seen too much written on that yet to be much help.

Welcome to the team. I hope you were able to make a connection.

Kendan
10-29-01, 09:07 AM
Welcome to the team.

simon389
10-29-01, 12:00 PM
Left 3 comps overnight trying to connect every 5 minutes.

Unsuccessful.

Tried all 3 versions so far (graphical, console, scrnsaver) all with same result. The funny thing with the console is that before it said that is cant get work instructions like the rest of them, it gives the message

"- couldnt send AS request"

What is the problem? Why wont it connect? Is there any way I can edit the config.cfg file or any other to help get through the proxy better and such?

My proxy is filter.calvin.edu and port 2054. These are the things I put in the boxes when I install. Is there anything more I need to do? Am I doing it right?

PLEASE HELP!!!!:( :( :( :(

simon389
10-29-01, 02:10 PM
The console displayed something DIFFERENT!
But no luck still.

here is what it displayed new:

"-connecting to assignment server (this is usual)
- (NEW) Successful: assigned to (13.10.171.64).
+News from Folding@Home: _Welcome to 2.0
-connecting to server (13.10.171.64) on port 8080
+connection established
+requesting work
Network send failure: status = 0
-Error: Getwork failed -1, and no other work to do
Sleeping for 5 mintues then retrying
+Attempting to get work packet
-connecting to assignment server" :mad: :mad: :mad:

back to the normal lack of connections..........

Dunga Bee
10-29-01, 02:23 PM
That last info you gave makes it look like it did get through the firewall and to the Stanford servers, which is better.

That error looks like the standard 'can't reach the server error' that we have all seen in the past when a Stanford server is down.

Try stopping F@H and restarting it a few times to see if you eventually hit a god server that can give you some work.

Ideas anyone else ???

simon389
10-29-01, 10:10 PM
It has done that last update twice now. I have kept it attempting to connect on my computer for about 30 hours now. No luck.

Do other peoples new registrations work?:(

scoobiedoo
10-29-01, 11:23 PM
I was getting that message on 2 of my machines, the only thing i did to fix the problem is to change dial up numbers....I think it has something to do with the firewall, v2 doesn't seem to like firewalls very much. You could try editing the config file to get work through http.

my 2 cents.

simon389
10-29-01, 11:29 PM
how would I edit the config.cfg file to? I know how to edit it, just what do I change in it?

scoobiedoo
10-29-01, 11:33 PM
where the line says http=no put yes for that. start the client, if that doesn't work i would just try not using a proxy for the client version and see if it can connect with that.

I'm not certified or anything just telling you things that i have learned through setting up v2 on my machines at work. :)

simon389
10-30-01, 01:57 AM
Where is this "http=no" located?

simon389
10-30-01, 03:28 AM
This is all my config.cfg says:

[http]
active=yes
host=filter.calvin.edu
port=2054

[settings]
username=Calvin.edu
team=32
asknet=no
userid=D0A23F2C2B62FC2

is that any help?

It wont even obtain a userid unless i use the proxy, but going through the proxy trashes the connection.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
ANYBODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS?!?!!??!

scoobiedoo
10-30-01, 06:20 AM
by going through your first post I can tell you that you are not connecting to the right server to get work. You should be connecting to 171.64.122.110 or 171.64.122.111 or 171.64.122.113. These are the servers my machines connect to to get work.
Try to ping those addresses to see if you are able to see them.
:cool:

simon389
10-30-01, 11:56 AM
i typed "ping xx.xx.xxxx.xx" for those 3 servers you just gave me and all the ping requests timed out. What does htis mean?

Dunga Bee
10-30-01, 12:04 PM
That means you are not getting out of the firewall to the outside world.

Can you surf the net with these computers you are testing on?

simon389
10-30-01, 01:33 PM
Of course. My firewall works fine for everything, but for some reason it doesn't like these stupid IPs.

It likes that one that doesn't connect very well though.....

scoobiedoo
10-30-01, 09:44 PM
Have you gone to internet explorer properties and see what proxy you are useing...It is under the connections, lan tab.
I'm giving you all i got captain, I just don't think i can take it any more :D

simon389
10-30-01, 11:12 PM
no my proxy in IE was set up by me. The proxy settings are fine I just need work done with the folding@home program.

scoobiedoo
10-30-01, 11:15 PM
It sounds like the proxy is blocking the folding program from getting to the work servers :( Could you try to change these settings?

simon389
10-30-01, 11:52 PM
It sounds like the proxy is blocking the folding program from getting to the work servers Could you try to change these settings?

this is what we have discovered so far. what we are working on is HOW to change the settings of folding@home to get it to work.

Anybody have any more suggestions?:( :( :( :( :( :(

scoobiedoo
10-31-01, 12:47 AM
I wonder if the local setting in the config file has anything to do with this? Input greatly appreciated.

zakelwe
10-31-01, 07:31 AM
This seems quite a common problem with going through proxy servers with F@H2. I and another guy are both mentioned this on the Folding2 Yahoo group. My error is identical :-

[B]Benchmarking ...
Trying to send all finished work units
+ Attempting to get work packet
- Connecting to assignment server
- Successful: assigned to (13.10.171.64).
+ News From Folding@Home: ¿½Welcome to 2.0
- Connecting to server (13.10.171.64) on port 8080
+ Connection established
+ Requesting work
Network send failure: status = 0
- Error: Getwork failed -1, and no other work to do/B]

I can connect to the assignment server ok ( 13.10.171.64 ) but I never get as far as the work servers mentioned above.

I can't ping 13.10.171.64 either as I get a destination host unreachable error meassage . If I do a trace on it then I only get as far as one of my company's routers, so I assume the router set-up at my end is the problem.

I've tried different port settings but nothing seems to get through.

I'll let you know if I find anything.

Regards

Andy

simon389
10-31-01, 09:03 AM
Well it is nice to know there is somebody with the same problem as me. I believe that there is really nothing we can do about it except email stanford about it and try to get a fix in the next verson (2.13?)

I just wish there was a way for us Proxy Folders to get around this problem from our end. Oh well. I guess I'll just have to wait it out.

Thanks,

Simon

Dunga Bee
10-31-01, 09:15 AM
This may be a reach, but have you tried to use the Winsock Proxy Client ?

It basically fakes out windows programs that can't deal with proxy (Outlook 2000 comes to mind). It replaces the Winsock files with ones with proxy settings built in so that when a program like Outlook says "I need to get to the internet", winsock sends it through the proxy.

Programs like Outlook Express and IE have the ability to use proxy settings that you give them, but some do not and that is what the proxy client is for.

You install it and it shows up in the control panel. From there you can enable it or disable it.

I'm not sure this is the 'ultimate' answer, but it might be worth a try on one or two machines just as a test.

I am looking for a link to the proxy client now...will update in a few...

Dunga Bee
10-31-01, 09:31 AM
Here is a rip from a messageboard about setting up the proxy client. This assumes the use of MS Proxy server. The client may work with other proxy servers or the particular proxy server you are using might have the equivalent of the MS Proxy client.

My gut feeling is that the MS Proxy client would work since if you are using an MS product as your OS, you are using Winsock to hit the internet and that is what this client changes.

Still looking for a direct d/l of the client in case you are not using MS Proxy Server...

Anyway here is the info:
There is a share installed on a proxy server by default that you can go to and install the client (assuming that the administrator didn't lock it out). What you need to do is map a drive on your local machine to \\servername\mspclnt and then you will see a setup.exe. You just simply run the setup.exe and the proxy client will be installed. If your just making http requests with your browser(surfing the web) you shouldn't need the client....but if running other applications like direct socket connections or other things you will need the client.

zakelwe
10-31-01, 09:50 AM
I have found a solution to this using third party software for tunneling and ALSO a third party proxy program ( probably similar to the stuff menitoned above ).

With this set up when you configure F@H2 you tell it there is no proxy.

The local proxy software runs the f@H2 program and it uses the tunneling software to talk to Stanford. The tunneling software converts all Stanfords whacky ports to 80 so it gets through you company firewall .

Et voila !

As you are catching up the OZ boys again you probably don't need the details or settings .... :D

Regards

Andy [H]

Dunga Bee
10-31-01, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by zakelwe
As you are catching up the OZ boys again you probably don't need the details or settings .... :D

Regards

Andy [H]

Actually, details would be helpful...:D

zakelwe
10-31-01, 06:01 PM
I'll dig up the info tomorrow at work.

Meanwhile why won't this 1.47 XP not work in Win98 on an Asus A7M266 unless it is either at 1100Mhz or in safe mode ?

Sigh ....


Andy

Kendan
10-31-01, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by zakelwe
I'll dig up the info tomorrow at work.

Meanwhile why won't this 1.47 XP not work in Win98 on an Asus A7M266 unless it is either at 1100Mhz or in safe mode ?

Sigh ....


Andy


It will support it : http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q4/011031/xpvsp4-14.html

check this out it is from Tom's hardware.
does it work with a different OS?

Boy914
11-02-01, 01:47 PM
So, any news on the proxy situation?

simon389
11-03-01, 12:19 AM
I got past my proxy. Thanks so much to everybody. If you want to know how check the other thread on this subject for Andy's Article. Thanks a bunch guys.