OCZ 2GB or G.SKILL Extreme Series 2GB

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

sice they are @ somewhat the same price now with MIR, what owns what?

predformance wise...

EDIT: wooops forgot links. :P

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231021

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145574

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227219

[gigabit]

hard call but i think id take the Gskill because i know a few people that have had great luck with theirs

[Nexus Realized]

G.Skills

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

which Extreme Series, the pc4000 stuff?

and i vote for Gskills either way.

edit: pc3200 vs pc4000??

GSKILL FTW even more!

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

really? what speeds do you think they cna do?

[cx323]

really? what speeds do you think they cna do?

people are regularly hitting >275 with those

[sir_pyro]

another vote for the G.SKILL. I'm running that exact same set in my current rig.

[party animal]

I say go for G.Skills too. They are clocking pretty nicely.

[Audioaficionado]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146970

I have this one in my Xeon dullie running 220MHz 2.5-3-3-8-1t. My Newegg review is there too. Third one down at the moment.

CAS 2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A7965&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A8477&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=525%3A8679&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=527%3A7870&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=147&Submit=Property

CAS 2.5: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A7965&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A8477&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=525%3A7866&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=527%3A7870&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=147&Submit=Property

CAS 3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A7965&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A8477&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=525%3A7867&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=527%3A7870&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=147&Submit=Property

Some of these will be less than PC3200 so keep that in mind.

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

people are regularly hitting >275 with those

WOW! sounds sick to me!

For the price i mean.

[gigabit]

I have a question about the 2x1GB sets of PC3200. Would a set with lower default timmings like 2-3-2-5 OC better than a set with 3-4-4-8 timings since you can raise/loosen the timing's more for more of an OC.Because if the sticks need to run 3-4-4-8 just to get to DDR400 i would think they wouldnt have much left in them.(i think i answered my own question)I would think the tigher timings would allow a higher OC since you can loosen them.Unlike with the 3-4-4-8 timimg you cant go much looser.I would usally go for the PC4000. But im curious since ive never used a 2x1gb set before and im thinking of going that route

[cx323]

I have a question about the 2x1GB sets of PC3200. Would a set with lower default timmings like 2-3-2-5 OC better than a set with 3-4-4-8 timings since you can raise/loosen the timing's more for more of an OC.Because if the sticks need to run 3-4-4-8 just to get to DDR400 i would think they wouldnt have much left in them.(i think i answered my own question)I would think the tigher timings would allow a higher OC since you can loosen them.Unlike with the 3-4-4-8 timimg you cant go much looser.I would usally go for the PC4000. But im curious since ive never used a 2x1gb set before and im thinking of going that route

alot fo the 2-3-2 timings @200 are infineon that failed to make the cut for pc4000 so you might get a good overclock, but most likely you'll get around 20mhz out of them (they don't oc any better if you loosen the timings). with the 3-4-4 timings it depends on what chips they are. if they're lesser binned uccc so they might oc ok, if they're something else they probably won't be very good

[EvilCloudStrife]

i NEED a set of 2gb ram that can run 264mhz. lower timings the better ofcourse. lowcost is a plus as well.

would the g.skill cut it?

[gigabit]

yep couple people i know run over 250mhz with the Gskill 2x1gb PC4000's

[wa77ss]

I just ordered some g.skill from the egg for 201 shipped. I will be putting these with a opty 148, so I am hoping for like 270. = ) Which will be right at 3ghz

[Ankun]

From what I've heard, with the more recent batches of the gskill from newegg people are having issues (myself included) I cannot push them above stock speed w/ stock timings and voltage.

Maybe try the OCZs.. I havent used them but as I said I have the gskill ES :)

[RIG RIDER]

people are regularly hitting >275 with those
Please direct me to these people,because I can't seem to get over 259.4
fsb with the same 2 gig kit you speak of. Check my sig for info.
Any help would be most appreciated.

[party animal]

Try upping your voltage a little bit.

[Killaapp]

The recent batch of 2x1024 G.Skill DDR500 have not been performing nearly as well as the previous batches.

For these reasons, I ordered this 2gig kit.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227219

[party animal]

Those OCZ use Samsung UCCC (i think). They should clock pretty well, somewhere around the G.Skills.

[Killaapp]

Yep, both the OCZs I posted and the G.Skill extreme are using UCCC, it just seems like the current batch that G.Skill is using performs much worse than their previous batches.

[party animal]

totally agree with you. The G.Skills arent doing too well right now, but it doesnt hurt to run on a divider.

[jpersinger]

You might be able to get 3-4-3-8 out of the GSkill PC4000 kit at 265 MHz, but if not 3-4-4-8 should be pretty easy. As for the PC3200 kit not overclocking well, if you peruse over at XS forums you will see that some have hit as much as 3-3-2-5 DDR 540 for Super PI benchmarks and 3-3-2-5 DDR 524 for 3dmark 05 benchmarks. I just purchased the PC4000 kit and am beginning to wonder if I would have been better off with the PC3200 kit; 1:1 mem frequency will vary from 265 MHz to 270 MHz for my system. Again though, we all know that some kits clock better than others.

[gigabit]

I here that the crucial value stuff OC's prettyt well

[EvilCloudStrife]

shoot.. i need to order some ram tonight.. will that OCZ hit 265mhz completly stable? i need it to.

[gigabit]

sorry wrong thing posted

[Killaapp]

Evilcloud - from what I have heard the latest batch of OCZ 2x1024 pc4000 should be good to around 270mhz, from there on it just depends on luck of the draw.

[ziggo0]

I just bought those G.Skills and I can say I'm absolutly loving them. Stock 250FSB, does 2.5-3-3-7 @ 250 (Stock should be 3-4-4-8). So far i've tested them up to 270FSB stable.

[Fighter2a]

Seems like the statement about the G.skills not performing well isn't well justified. I'm thinking about ordering the G.skills myself but not sure.

[party animal]

I guess some people just get lucky in which ones they get. :shrug:

[Killaapp]

Ziggo0 that is excellent news. What vendor did you order the sticks from? And if newegg do you know which warehouse it shipped out of?

[Ankun]

Seems like the statement about the G.skills not performing well isn't well justified. I'm thinking about ordering the G.skills myself but not sure.

I think it is pretty justified. Unless you are trying to twist words around.

They perform exactly how they should at stock settings (if that is what you mean) but it terms of OC headroom.. the sticks I got have none. They wont even run 3-3-3-8.. or an itch over 250mhz at 3-4-4-8.

[Fighter2a]

Just b/c you can't o/c them doesn't mean others can't. There are tons of little tweaks you can do on the lanparty ultra-d to your memory. There are also other factors like bios version.

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

since the price dropped, this is in teh thing now, too

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145574

and these because of the price drop..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227219

^^^^
these rape all/

[Fighter2a]

Yeah your right about the ocz gold. I just read a lot about them over at the ocz official forums here:OCZ OFFICIAL FORUMS (http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=45) Many are getting them above 260 and you can't go wrong with the OCZ customer support. I'm going to buy them right now .

[gigabit]

I just found this.I get the monarch new letter's and this is a weekend speacil $199 after mail in rebate
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140363&AFFIL=TH&NR=1

[madhatR]

i was thinking bout sending these ocz pc4000 ebs back ..

what is a good replacement

[mysterfix]

Mine are great, under $200 and I still get close to the same performance as my Redlines but with an extra gig of capicity.

[EvilCloudStrife]

i was thinking bout sending these ocz pc4000 ebs back ..

what is a good replacement

why?

[madhatR]

cuz they clock for **** ..

thinking bout getting some samsung uccc .. was gonna send em back and get the ocz gold gx .. cheaper and its uccc

[EvilCloudStrife]

ohh.. nm, i thought these had uccc.. duh

[madhatR]

its guarenteed that the ocz gx gold pc4000 kit is ucccc ? or is their a better kit to get .. thanks

[OnDborder]

So which is the better? The GSkills or OCZ's???? I'm going crazy trying to decide :bang head

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

i think the OCZ's are better//

[Fighter2a]

Well people that have recently bought the G.skills aparantly say they aren't clocking good at all. People are haveing lots of luck with the OCZ. You can go read a lot about it on the official ocz forums. They are also pretty close in price after the ocz MIR.

[madhatR]

i might send the platinum ebs back and get the ocz gold gx ones

[EvilCloudStrife]

just bought some golds. i NEED them to clock at 265mhz.. Come on come on!!!

[OnDborder]

Which ones? The gtx?
I was thinking of getting those.

[EvilCloudStrife]

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140363

this is the stuff i got

[madhatR]

how are they clocking for u

[EvilCloudStrife]

i bought them about 2 hours ago :p

[madhatR]

o ok lol

[mysterfix]

It doesn't matter which ones you buy you just need to be a little bit lucky and very familiar with your boards memory settings.

For instance: I've seen a lot of people with the G.Skill running max async latency at 7 or 8 but my ram is not stable below 9 when OC'ed. Also my read preamble setting needs to be higher (6 instead of 5 or 5.5) any lowering of these 2 timings results in instability or errors in memtest.

I've seen a bunch of people trying to get a good overclock of there ram by using other peoples settings but the thing is your board or cpu may not like those settings. So really even if you copy another persons settings you will still need to find your own sweet spot.

[gigabit]

Thats the stuff i listed right?

[Francocomp]

is this one worth the extra 17 to the other ocz that's been posted?
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140226&Category_Code=Rebates

and whats the big difference b/w the PC-4000 OCZ EL Gold Gamer Ext. XTC http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140535&Category_Code=Rebates
and the ocz that was talked about be4?

[OnDborder]

Just the heatspreader.
The gtx is, in theory, dissipate heat better. It's too bad they just didn't save some cost and not put any heatspreaders on at all.

[Soichiro]

and whats the big difference b/w the PC-4000 OCZ EL Gold Gamer Ext. XTC http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140535&Category_Code=Rebates
and the ocz that was talked about be4?
Lower stock timings and voltage. Of course that's not really worth the extra cost since you could probably get lower voltage and timings from the other OCZ. Plus that heatspreader looks stupid :p

[Fighter2a]

Damn Newegg has had my order at step 3 (payment recieved) for 2 days.

[OnDborder]

Sorry, I thought this was the stuff he was talking 'bout.. http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140363

[OnDborder]

Damn Newegg has had my order at step 3 (payment recieved) for 2 days.
So what did you order?? The OCZ or the Gskill.

[EvilCloudStrife]

i think for the most part the last 4 people have ordered OCZ. i hope they are good clockers

[madhatR]

i think i might just go with the gskill extremes since they are the cheapest

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

The OCZ's have a mail in rebate though... dont be lazy..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227219

[madhatR]

gskills are still cheaper though

[Fighter2a]

So what did you order?? The OCZ or the Gskill.

OCZ

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

gskills are still cheaper though

just a couple of bucks man and you get better clocks...

[madhatR]

nothing is guarenteed .. this ocz plat eb .. people on xs hit like 265-280 1:1 .. but a large majority cant break 254 .. and these are the most expensive kit that ocz does

[madhatR]

are the ocz gold at newegg samsung uccc like the gskills are ?

[OnDborder]

are the ocz gold at newegg samsung uccc like the gskills are ?
Yep. Still results differ. I'm still torn between the two. But it's not like we're out to break any records with this stuff. I would like this ram for gaming not benching anyway so as long as I get the guarantee'd speed, 250, I'll be happy.. Maybe.

[madhatR]

i miss my crucials lol .. did 295 with no problems .. besides dying every month or 2 .. but they kicked the crap out of all these other ram sticks for 2gb

hmm now to decide between the gskill extremes are the ocz gold

if i ended up getting 4gbs lol .. would i even be able to run 250fsb ? since 2gb is very stressful on the mem controller .. then 4 i would think would be torture

[madhatR]

anyways thought i would let u guys know .. i ordered the gskill extremes

[OnDborder]

Yippeee we have a decision..

[madhatR]

lol im the worst at decision making

[EvilCloudStrife]

shoot. i wish it was not this hard. when tccd came out, they were all clocking just about the same so it didnt matter. but the rumors about gskills current batch sucking scared me. i went with the ocz. man i want 264mhz. please make it happen computer-god

[PhobMX]

lol im the worst at decision making

the very day after i ordered my gskills is when bad comments about them started to sprout all over the forums... i hope i got the good batch

[OnDborder]

please make it happen computer-god
Lol..

[mysterfix]

Keep your fingers crossed for some good sticks. I been testing the sticks I got after some weeks of folding almost 24/7 (when I'm not gaming) and these things are doing really well. I still can't hit 280mhz stable but I hve been able to get all my other timings pretty tight for a 2gb kit. At 280mhz 2.6v I get 3-4 errors per pass in memtest so I have no doubt that 270-275 will be stable. I ordered these on the 19th of last month from the Egg so they might have been from a diffferent batch than the ones that clock like crap.

[evancold]

I ended up getting the G. Skill from the egg. I ended up doing an RMA due to one bad stick. However when I got them back from RMA I can hit 280 3-4-4-8 1T rock stable. I have not tried tighter timings yet, I just wanted to see how high I could go with stock timings first. I am pretty happy that I got rid of my ballistix for this ram, now to test tighter timings... :)

[OnDborder]

270-75? Gee, for 2x1gig ram I think is pretty decent.

[Francocomp]

i went w/the g skills too

[madhatR]

good choice :)

[jpersinger]

Hey Evan when did you RMA your Gskill? I just got my kit last week and it also had one DOA stick...now I am RMAing!

[Fighter2a]

It's me and evilcloudstrife against you guys =P.

[OnDborder]

Count me in for the OCZ'z..
I got the ones with the "bling".. Couldn't resist. Had to try 'em out.

[evancold]

Hey Evan when did you RMA your Gskill? I just got my kit last week and it also had one DOA stick...now I am RMAing!

It was last week when I RMA'd my ram, like 2 days after I got it.

[shawkins]

I just ordered a 2GB kit of the OCZ Gold last night from the Egg! But man is my CPU gonna be a bottlenext isnt it?

[OnDborder]

I just ordered a 2GB kit of the OCZ Gold last night from the Egg! But man is my CPU gonna be a bottlenext isnt it?
What, your venice 3000? I'm sorry but I didn't see your v.card info..

[jpersinger]

I was just curious if I had gotten your RMA'ed set; over the past 6 months I have received two different items that had been obviously previously used from Newegg (one of them DOA as well). I will post my Gskill results in about a week; they are still processing my RMA.

[evancold]

I did my RMA directly through G. Skill, I did not go through the egg because I would have to pay shipping to ship it back to them. If you go through G. Skill they email you a label and pay for shipping both ways. So I am pretty sure you did not get my RMA'd set.

[evancold]

Sorry, my internet was freaking out or something odd. :shrug:

Extra posts deleted

[madhatR]

mine just arrived .. ill post some results in a bit

[EvilCloudStrife]

i got my gold coming tomarrow. i cant believe gskill pays for shipping both ways. because of this alone, i wish i went with them instead :(

[OnDborder]

Ya, that is pretty decent of them...

[madhatR]

well gskills are in .. running fine at 250 on my divider with 3-4-4-8 .. no problems .. havent tested anything yet though .. gonna pack up the ocz and send em back tomorrow

[EvilCloudStrife]

i will update my results to this thread asap. looks like a gang war of sorts.

ps - where are you from in arizona OnDborder? i assume, your on the boarder of mexico but i could be wrong

[OnDborder]

Like you,, in Mesa.

[Fighter2a]

Damn you ordered yours on Friday right? I did and mine aren't scheduled to get here until Thursday.

[EvilCloudStrife]

i ordered mine sat. and mine are scheduled for thursday as well.. where did you get yours from?

[dawei213]

G.Skill's customer service is this good? Well, think that might sway my decision in choosing which RAM to buy.

[Melhisedek]

There aren't Extreme G.Skill but are they any good?

Gskill PC4000 2x1024MB F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ

http://www.overclockers.se/ItemInfo?itemId=34209797

[OnDborder]

That link is to some 512x2 gbla's.. Which I rma'd lately hopefully getting back soon..

[evancold]

G.Skill's customer service is this good? Well, think that might sway my decision in choosing which RAM to buy.

I have to say, G. Skill's RMA customer service is by far one of the best that I have ever used. And this says alot considering I RMA at least 500 misc parts per month, most of them routers from wirleless customers. :p

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

hmm, i wonder what his clocks will be..

[Fighter2a]

I got mine from newegg. And UPS SUCKS IT UP AGAIN! Now I have absolutely NO expected delivery date, all I have is "A LATE TRAIN CAUSED THIS DELAY" . I wish newegg would use USPS Priority.


And wheres the results Madhatr? Your not hiding are you? :p

[EvilCloudStrife]

today is the day my friends! woo hooo!! exciting to the max! i ordered from monarch and fedex came through again. good for them.

i will post my findings :)

P.S - Sir. BOBSONATOR - I am honored to be in your signature :santa:

[OnDborder]

Check this out EvilCloudStrife...."Jan 12, 2006 7:54 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery TEMPE, AZ "
Me too,, wooo hoo..

[evancold]

let's see some results :)

[OnDborder]

Haven't got mine yet.

[evancold]

well as soon as you do i would appreciate it if you would post your results :)

[OnDborder]

You know I'm getting OCZ'z?

[evancold]

yes, i know. I just want to see how they clock compared to g.skill that's all

[EvilCloudStrife]

Check this out EvilCloudStrife...."Jan 12, 2006 7:54 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery TEMPE, AZ "
Me too,, wooo hoo..


haha - heres mine

"8:01 AM

On FedEx vehicle for delivery

TEMPE, AZ "

EDIT: if yours is also coming from the tempe fedex, you must be in west mesa like me. i bet were are very close to each other! (im on dobson and baseline)

[madhatR]

just a few runs of memtest show these gskills cant do 270 :bang head

[EagleClaw]

What voltage are you running throught them?

[OnDborder]

Dobson/8th st
http://www.mapservices.org/myguestmap/showguestmap.do?id=crash893b

[PhobMX]

just a few runs of memtest show these gskills cant do 270 :bang head

feed 2.9v to em, after the comments people are throwing out seems 265 stable is still good for those mems, ill post how mines do ASAP

[EvilCloudStrife]

im glad i didnt go with gskills now.. phew

ondboarder, we are like 5 miles away from each other tops

[EagleClaw]

These like lower Voltage, my set I had they would run 275 @ 2.6v

I would suggest try at stock first.

[Rattle]

feed 2.9v to em, after the comments people are throwing out seems 265 stable is still good for those mems, ill post how mines do ASAP


2.9v??

most only need 2.7 to top out, mine do 273 on 2.6v

be careful they get hot after 2.9...

[madhatR]

ill try and do 2.6

i tried from 2.66 up to 2.8 .. test 5 gave me like 9k errors lol

[Fighter2a]

Maybe change your timings?

[gigabit]

dont forget a new bios might help.

[madhatR]

no go at 270 .. 265 thru 117 errors .. better then 8000 ..
anyways .. didnt really mess with timings .. etc .. just uses the default stuff except for 3-4-4-8

it does 250 @ 3-3-3-5 if that matters :rolleyes:

anyways im gonna flash back to the 11-02 bios .. everything after that seems to suck

[Fighter2a]

So you surrender? LOL j/k . Keep trying.

[evancold]

hey madhatr, do you have your DRAM strength on auto or manually set?

[shawkins]

YES! I just checked NewEgg and my memory was delivered today! So I should get it when I get home from school! I cant wait! Now Im going to need help setting my timings. Dangit

[mysterfix]

ill try and do 2.6

i tried from 2.66 up to 2.8 .. test 5 gave me like 9k errors lol
Can you make a screen shot of your settings so we can help you figure out what might be the problem.

[EvilCloudStrife]

here is an update. i got my golds in my compy right now mem testing they are 1:1 264 3-4-4-10

all looks good.. need to do more tweaking but it looks like i hit my goal! YEAH

[MICT158]

I have the OCZ you listed in the #2 link, and while they have been rock solid reliable at stock settings, they don't overclock well. If you are looking to OC, I would go with the G.Skill or maybe some Mushkin sticks.

Good luck! :)

[EvilCloudStrife]

on the same note. dont you guys think that the 2GB plats should be golds, and the golds should be plats? just a though (considering the IC in the plats suck compared to golds)

[jpersinger]

ECS, it seems you and I have very similar tastes in mobo,gpu, and cpu. I also run at 11 x 264 1.52 V in BIOS. How much more can you get out of your CPU? I began tinkering with mine again...it just completely hits a wall hard. At 1.52 V 2.904 gHz I can Prime small FFT for 16 hours+ (I stopped it) but at just 2.926 gHz same voltage it fails in 2 hours.

[EvilCloudStrife]

ECS, it seems you and I have very similar tastes in mobo,gpu, and cpu. I also run at 11 x 264 1.52 V in BIOS. How much more can you get out of your CPU? I began tinkering with mine again...it just completely hits a wall hard. At 1.52 V 2.904 gHz I can Prime small FFT for 16 hours+ (I stopped it) but at just 2.926 gHz same voltage it fails in 2 hours.

i dont remeber what exactly i got. i know not much over 2.9ghz though, i wanted to feed it more voltage but if i remeber right no matter what voltage (below 1.7v) wont do 3ghz. im still happy with 2.9ghz even though my goal 3ghz.

[EvilCloudStrife]

prime stable (well, for 3 hours, but 90% errors happen within that time, super pi 32mb (26m, 41s) stable, a couple of runs of memtest stable. i will put my bios settings up soon so any of you ram pros can tell me if anything looks way high and help me tweak it a bit.. super stoaked

[Mac]

After reading this thread I have decided to purchase the OCZ sticks based on the assumption that the G.skill sticks have been bad recently. Also money is no concern for me.

Not sure if im going to overclock yet, but if I decide to, I'm confident I have the right memory to do so.

[Internal]

After reading this thread I have decided to purchase the OCZ sticks based on the assumption that the G.skill sticks have been bad recently. Also money is no concern for me.

Not sure if im going to overcock yet, but if I decide to, I'm confident I have the right memory to do so.

Ya when you read the thread over at XS, that's the impression I get.
Then again I hear people having issues with all types of ram.
Seems like everyone has a story to tell.

[EvilCloudStrife]

Ya when you read the thread over at XS, that's the impression I get.
Then again I hear people having issues with all types of ram.
Seems like everyone has a story to tell.

it all started when i was 5, and my mom was baking a apple pie. It smelled so good that it would make you come a' runnin' from 5 miles away. We all got back to the kitchen and then....

ohh, you didnt mean this kind of story?


ohh yeah, 1 more for OCZ. we got quite a team here!

[El<(')>Maxi]

Is anybody gonna post some benchmarks with these bad boys, thats what I wanna see :)

[gigabit]

http://www.ocprices.com/?rev_id=291

How about these ?

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

http://www.ocprices.com/?rev_id=291

How about these ?

Thats 2x 512 and its diff..

[gigabit]

: No its not its 2x1gb.And i know its differnt stuff why do you think i asked what about these.Im not gonna say anything else now :bang head :bang head

[Rattle]

those sticks are nice gigabit, but they are also $300 lmao

thats why we love the gskills.

I loved OCZ modules and crucial is probably good stuff, but i aint spending no $300 on a 2gb kit when the gskills are $200 and even ddr2 2gb kits are freaking cheaper :rolleyes:

[gigabit]

True i figured these were abit more.But Sir. BOBSONATOR say's they are 2x512mb.he didnt even look at the link and the other link i post earlier had ocz pc 4000 gold 2x1gb were like $198 i think after the mail in rebate.I know i want a set of either the G skill or the OCZ.Or im thinking about a set of Gigaram's PC4200 2x1gb set.I know gigaram suck's but anadatech gave it a good review

[Rattle]

lol I had my heart set on some OCZ EB 4000's but my gskills are serving me fine. The OCZ golds are pretty inexpensive with good results also.

[gigabit]

Gigaram PC4200 2x1gb

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2560&p=6


http://www.gigaram.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=110&highlight=&sid=7c6ae04d95b473b68fbc91aa9224bfde#110

[Rattle]

infineion = yuck

but the forum you linked to says UCCC hmmm

[gigabit]

They are UCCC now they stop using the infineion

[Rattle]

They are UCCC now they stop using the infineion


they are totally diff stix though, the infineon ones were 4200's the UCCC ones are 4000's got a link to the stuff at egg ?

[OnDborder]

prime stable (well, for 3 hours, but 90% errors happen within that time, super pi 32mb (26m, 41s) stable, a couple of runs of memtest stable. i will put my bios settings up soon so any of you ram pros can tell me if anything looks way high and help me tweak it a bit.. super stoaked
Gee, don't ya just love "tweakin"..

[Fighter2a]

The $300 OCZ platinum 2x1GB isn't in production anymore because they can't get any of the chips they need. I read that at the offical OCZ forum. And my ocz memory comes later today :D

[EvilCloudStrife]

The $300 OCZ platinum 2x1GB isn't in production anymore because they can't get any of the chips they need. I read that at the offical OCZ forum. And my ocz memory comes later today :D

woot. let me know your bios settings if you go past 250mhz :D

[OnDborder]

Are you guys using any swapfile?

[Rattle]

Are you guys using any swapfile?

i have it set to system managed on my storage drive...

[OnDborder]

What are there advantages to that choice..
And how big does it get, the swapfile that is.

[Rattle]

well its recommended to put the pagefile on another drive other than OS and its system managed, starts at 2 gigs and goes to 3

[OnDborder]

Ya, I got my swapfile on another drive. Just wondering about the system managed part.

Well I got mine up to 265x10, running prime right now.. If I could figure out how to attach an attachment to a post I'd post some screenies..

[OnDborder]

Screenie

[OnDborder]

Another

[OnDborder]

Again.

[OnDborder]

Stress

[OnDborder]

Sorry, one more

[agentbad]

another vote for g.skill extreme. best bang for your buck IMO.

[Fighter2a]

Got mine at 270. Now I'm off to play BF2 to make sure they are stable


http://www.ownedbitch.net/gallery/d/98-2/ocz.JPG







ocz>gskill

[EvilCloudStrife]

those are my boyz.. playas

hey gskill folks, seriously try for 270mhz or better, it seems like none of you care

[Audioaficionado]

well its recommended to put the pagefile on another drive other than OS and its system managed, starts at 2 gigs and goes to 3You also want it in the most used partition on that 2nd drive. Not necessarily on the first/outermost partition as commonly advised. That way the drive's actuator and heads won't have to travel as far and will take less seek time.

[Fighter2a]

Yeah these sticks are the ****. They are pretty much plug and play which is what OCZ was going for. Also EvilCloudStrife and OnDborder try and run yours at 3-4-3-8 as a lot of people are getting that to work.

Oh and did I mention i'm running these sticks at 1.5v :D

[OnDborder]

Not to make up excuses but my mem controller on my 0543, is cr@p. Couldn't get above 267 with any of my sticks.

[DJCorpse]

heres my gskill 2gbhz

http://myweb.cableone.net/djcorpse/oc4.jpg

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

nice dude!^

[Fighter2a]

Ok so those are doing the same as my ocz. But did you just buy them? I'm interested in the people who just recently bought them.

[OnDborder]

This is why it was so hard to decide which way to go, where to spend my 200bux.. I pick GSkills, OCZ do better, I pick OCZ'z, Gskill do better.. :cry:

When did you say you bought your bhz'z, Fighter?

[liftedcj7on44s]

I just ordered the ocz stuff tonight, should see it maybe tuesday. I will let you guys know what it will do. I called circuit city today and they said 1 1gb stick of kingston was 250.00. I told them they were stupid,lol. But hopefully this stuff will do 270 as i am running at 270x10 so 1:1 would be nice.

[EvilCloudStrife]

what bios are you running fighter2a?

i see 623 but it might not be updated :)

[Fighter2a]

This is why it was so hard to decide which way to go, where to spend my 200bux.. I pick GSkills, OCZ do better, I pick OCZ'z, Gskill do better.. :cry:

When did you say you bought your bhz'z, Fighter?

last friday

[Fighter2a]

what bios are you running fighter2a?

i see 623 but it might not be updated :)


6/23-3

[Rattle]

You also want it in the most used partition on that 2nd drive. Not necessarily on the first/outermost partition as commonly advised. That way the drive's actuator and heads won't have to travel as far and will take less seek time.

hehe my 2nd drive is 234 gig

its my huge junk folder really, all my pics, MP3's, some movies and proggies along with all my system drivers and all the stuff i might need some day....

I suppose i should partition it just for the PF ?

[Qarl666]

hehe my 2nd drive is 234 gig

its my huge junk folder really, all my pics, MP3's, some movies and proggies along with all my system drivers and all the stuff i might need some day....

I suppose i should partition it just for the PF ?
There's no benefit to making a separate partition for the page file. Just plop it on your 2nd drive and you're good.

[Rattle]

ahh conflicting opinions on the same matter....

[Qarl666]

Hmmm, OK. I just read a VERY interesting article. I'm going to have to give this a try:

This is an incredible tweak that has improved the performance of my system by leaps and bounds.

There have been lots of articles and tweaks concerning the Page File. I have tried them all, however, whilst researching articles for work, I came across this tweak directly from Microsoft that has been the best improver of my system performance.

If you have two or more hard drives, especially if they reside on separate IDE channels, it is possible to Strip the Page File across these two drives. Windows XP has code within it that will enable a RAID-Type Stripping. Therefore, Windows XP will through its internal algorithms place information in the separate drives. By accessing both of the Drives at the same time to read/write information, Windows XP will considerably improve its performance!

Simply go to System Properties > Advanced > Performance > Settings > Virtual Memory and assign the page file a size on each drive.

The way I did mine is as follows:

I have two hard drives each formatted with two partitions each. Hence I have a total of 4 Partitions being displayed. On my secondary HD, I created the first Partition and called it my SWAP. Since I have 512 MB of RAM, I created the partition with 1.5 GB. On this partition, I assigned the Swap File of 764 - 1500 MB. On the Primary Partition which Contains my Operating System, I also have a swap file of the same 764-1500 MB.

Try this out my friends. I guarantee you will be impressed with the results. As a comparison, when I had a single partition, one application used to suck 100% of my cpu cycles and my swap file usage jumped way high. Ever since I started the page file stripping, that very same application sucks only 5% CPU cycles!

[PhobMX]

Hmmm, OK. I just read a VERY interesting article. I'm going to have to give this a try:

This is an incredible tweak that has improved the performance of my system by leaps and bounds.

There have been lots of articles and tweaks concerning the Page File. I have tried them all, however, whilst researching articles for work, I came across this tweak directly from Microsoft that has been the best improver of my system performance.

If you have two or more hard drives, especially if they reside on separate IDE channels, it is possible to Strip the Page File across these two drives. Windows XP has code within it that will enable a RAID-Type Stripping. Therefore, Windows XP will through its internal algorithms place information in the separate drives. By accessing both of the Drives at the same time to read/write information, Windows XP will considerably improve its performance!

Simply go to System Properties > Advanced > Performance > Settings > Virtual Memory and assign the page file a size on each drive.

The way I did mine is as follows:

I have two hard drives each formatted with two partitions each. Hence I have a total of 4 Partitions being displayed. On my secondary HD, I created the first Partition and called it my SWAP. Since I have 512 MB of RAM, I created the partition with 1.5 GB. On this partition, I assigned the Swap File of 764 - 1500 MB. On the Primary Partition which Contains my Operating System, I also have a swap file of the same 764-1500 MB.

Try this out my friends. I guarantee you will be impressed with the results. As a comparison, when I had a single partition, one application used to suck 100% of my cpu cycles and my swap file usage jumped way high. Ever since I started the page file stripping, that very same application sucks only 5% CPU cycles!


essentialy using 2 swapfiles... hmm didnt thing about that but its true the option is in there...

[mysterfix]

Very interesting Qarl666, I'm gonna set mine up right now and see how it does.

[EvilCloudStrife]

im an idiot... swapfile? have we been over this before?

[OnDborder]

But what size would you need to set it up at with 2gigs? The dude only had 512mbs.
I always thought that it was better to have a fixed amount, like 1024/1024 or whatever, not 764-1500.. And divisible by 16,32,64, etc. As usual, I could be wrong.

[Rattle]

But what size would you need to set it up at with 2gigs? The dude only had 512mbs.
I always thought that it was better to have a fixed amount, like 1024/1024 or whatever, not 764-1500.. And divisible by 16,32,64, etc. As usual, I could be wrong.

from what i understand with 2 gigs the pagefile is best set to system managed... usually it set min to 1,5x the ram amount you have and the max at 2x the min amount, when i select system managed with 2gig in the machine it sets it to 2gb min and 3 gb max which should be sufficient...

[Qarl666]

Here's the poop on how to use XP's striping across multiple HDs:

Creating Software RAID 0

RAID (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks) zero is another name for the technique known as disk 'striping' in which two disks act as one single hard drive, sharing (or striping) all data between them. This process considerably speeds up drive performance, especially when reading from the drives, since the data stream can come from both disks at once. For more information on other forms of RAID, flip through the pages of PCstats guide on the subject.

Windows XP, like Windows 2000 before it, comes with RAID 0 support built in. If you have two hard drives, you can take advantage of this feature to speed up your computers disk access (which affects nearly every facet of the computing experience). Note that you cannot create a RAID 0 stripe with the partition that holds the Windows operating system.

This means that you will have to have at least two physical hard drives with free space so you can create a pair of new partitions to stripe since you cannot stripe an existing partition with data on it either.

To create a RAID 0 stripe with two identical disks right click on 'my computer' and select 'properties' then 'manage.' Open 'disk management' from the computer management window. Convert both drives to dynamic disks. Once both disks are listed as dynamic, right click the 'unpartitioned space' of either drive and select 'new volume.' In the 'select volume type' Window, select 'striped.'

http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/200411/104tips_34.GIF

Add all disks you wish to use, then decide on the amount of space on both disks you wish to use for the striped volume you are about to create. If you wish, use only part of each disk for the stripe, leaving the rest free for other uses.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/200411/104tips_35.GIF

Choose a drive letter or folder to use, and the method of formatting, and you are done. The striped array will format and be ready for use.

[Internal]

Make sure you gave your stuff backed up if you're going to run RAID 0.

If anyone of those drives fails you loose all of your data.

[Qarl666]

Yeah, good idea. :) Also, it should be noted that if you convert your disks from Basic to Dynamic (which is needed to do striping) you CANNOT convert them back to Basic later if you don't like it.

[OnDborder]

So really it would be best to pick up a couple of small capacity hdd's and run it like that..

[OnDborder]

But back to the subject of this thread.. The best I could come up with is 265x10 at 3448@2.84 vdimm. Really not too bad considering the capacity of the ram.

Anyone else got some info on the thread subject?

[EvilCloudStrife]

But back to the subject of this thread.. The best I could come up with is 265x10 at 3448@2.84 vdimm. Really not too bad considering the capacity of the ram.

Anyone else got some info on the thread subject?

hey dude. whats your full genie bios settings?

[OnDborder]

265
3
16/16
10
100
D
1.450


1.375
110%
1.30
1.70 I think could be 1.6
2.8( which is really 2.84 via a dmm read)

200
e
3
4
8
4
7
14
3
3
2
A
3072
E
A
0
N3
3
A
normal
A
A
D
A
A
A

The settings I put on Auto have slight influence on performance anyway.

[EvilCloudStrife]

i am tweaking some settings right now and i am currently stable at 3-4-3-8! 264mhz 1:1 2.73v

yay for me! still testing

[Fighter2a]

Try lowering the voltage. I got my voltage low so they don't get hot. Plus I have a fan blowing on them anyway.

[EvilCloudStrife]

if they are already stable, why lower the voltage. i just did 5 passes of memtest, im good to go for that. now time to prime and loop 3dmark05

[OnDborder]

Good Luck :thup:

[OnDborder]

Regarding the vdimm on these, "the samsung IC's on these 2 gig kits are real similar although 2.6 to 2.8V seems the sweet range dependant on overclock." http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showpost.php?p=110050&postcount=1
I had to go to 2.8. Maybe after these get "broke in" I will be able to lower the voltage.
I have a fan over the sticks and I also got the sticks with the "honeycomb" hs's.

[EvilCloudStrife]

prime stable (7 hours 30 minutes) 3d mark stable (20 of each game loop)

im going for 2.5cas now!

wish me luck

[OnDborder]

Hmm, maybe next weekend I'll try 623-3. I'm using the bt704 now. I tried the 623-1 earlier but didn't have as much luck.

[EvilCloudStrife]

well cas2.5 was no go, neither was 3-3-3-8

im just getting greedy now though, over all i am VERY happy with 3-4-3-8 @ 264mhz

for anyone that cares here are my bios settings for 623-3
-----------------------------------------------------------
(starting in DRAM settings)
200
Enable
3
4
8
3
11
16
2
2
1
3
3120
Enable

Auto
0
L3
L2
8ns
Normal
6ns
256
Dis
16x
7x
Dis

[OnDborder]

Thanks..

[EvilCloudStrife]

ohh yeah, any ram pros that think my settings are either too high or do not go good together please recommend some better settings :)

[Rattle]

ohh yeah, any ram pros that think my settings are either too high or do not go good together please recommend some better settings :)


I havnt had to mess with any bios settings aside from the 4 major settings to get mine up to 273, may help though, i havnt really tried to find out.

I know when i ran my TCC5 1 gig kit at 300mhz there wasnt one dram setting untouched :p

[PhobMX]

hey m8s, seems i have the GOOD BATCH g.skills: i have them stable at 265MHz :D... still ocing the cpu tough.

all i did is load the optimized settings and set basic dram settings to 3 4 4 8 and the others left default...

i have a dfi board, is there any setting i should tweak to reach 270?

[Rattle]

I havnt had to mess with any bios settings aside from the 4 major settings to get mine up to 273, may help though, i havnt really tried to find out.

I know when i ran my TCC5 1 gig kit at 300mhz there wasnt one dram setting untouched :p

[phatty2x4]

I still can't make up my mind between the OCZ gold or the Gskills, arg.

[phatty2x4]

Ah, I just got the gskills. :santa:

[OldOne]

Just did an upgrade to my system. Now I have a A8n32-SLI Delux FX-53 G.Skill F1-4000 USU2-2GBHZ eVGA 7800GTX KO two 74 gb Raptors in raid0.Did all this yesterday.

[OnDborder]

Just did an upgrade to my system. Now I have a A8n32-SLI Delux FX-53 G.Skill F1-4000 USU2-2GBHZ eVGA 7800GTX KO two 74 gb Raptors in raid0.Did all this yesterday.
Smokin' :cool: :cool:
Now it's time to change your "sig" :)

[synthetic_fenix]

Just did an upgrade to my system. Now I have a A8n32-SLI Delux FX-53 G.Skill F1-4000 USU2-2GBHZ eVGA 7800GTX KO two 74 gb Raptors in raid0.Did all this yesterday.

I would like to see what you get out of that memory with that Motherboard. What you see in my sig is what I have, just got the stuff last week and im still tweaking.

[phatty2x4]

Got the G.Skills today(paid for 1 day shipping :santa: ). Running @ddr500 just fine. As soon as I get a tri-blade, I'll start pumping up the fsb. But for now, I'll let it burn in a little.

[DeadSmiley]

I bought three 2x1GB HZ kits and none of them will run at DDR500 with any settings I try. They always fail memtest86 test #5 and sometimes some other tests too. I am running 3-4-4-8 timings, T2, 2.5 vdimm.

If I try 2.7 vdimm it's even worse. I can run all day and night at DDR480 but not DDR500. This is on all three kits.

I have been talking to the guys over in the Asrock DualSATAII thread and they sent me over here to see what you guys think.

I tried swapping dimm sockets and then I tested one kit one stick at a time and found the bad one. It's a bummer....

I paid for DDR500 so I should get that with these sticks.

[OldOne]

I bought three 2x1GB HZ kits and none of them will run at DDR500 with any settings I try. They always fail memtest86 test #5 and sometimes some other tests too. I am running 3-4-4-8 timings, T2, 2.5 vdimm.

If I try 2.7 vdimm it's even worse. I can run all day and night at DDR480 but not DDR500. This is on all three kits.

I have been talking to the guys over in the Asrock DualSATAII thread and they sent me over here to see what you guys think.

I tried swapping dimm sockets and then I tested one kit one stick at a time and found the bad one. It's a bummer....

I paid for DDR500 so I should get that with these sticks.

I run mine in T1 at 10x255 for now.Today was the first day I had to play with it.Doing all the memtests and all.I am waiting for Xtremesystems to come back on line,they have a big thread on this board.I will know what it will do in a few days.I know it will do better than 2.5gigs.

[OnDborder]

Update;

[OnDborder]

A little tighter timings :)

[OnDborder]

I am waiting for Xtremesystems to come back on line,they have a big thread on this board..
And they're still down.

[OnDborder]

They always fail memtest86 test #5 and sometimes some other tests too. I am running 3-4-4-8 timings, T2, 2.5 vdimm.

.
Mmm, the "T2" is probably giving you the trouble. Try CPC "enabled" or t1, 3,4,4,8 or auto, and the rest on "auto", to start out with, @ 2.6.
What's your vcore and cpu temp?

[DeadSmiley]

Mmm, the "T2" is probably giving you the trouble. Try CPC "enabled" or t1, 3,4,4,8 or auto, and the rest on "auto", to start out with, @ 2.6.
What's your vcore and cpu temp?

vcore is 1.4v, I don't have many options on this board, it's an Asrock 949DualSATA2. I have two vdimm options and they are labled Normal and High which is 2.5 and 2.7 volts respectively. But hey, the board was only $65!

I am using 3-4-4-8 timings. T1 just makes things worse. 2.7v is a no go as well. The reason I went with the G.Skill is because of the low voltage requirements of my board. They run great up to DDR480, then they poop out.

[OnDborder]

Can you increase the vcore?

[MaStA]

I'd like to know how the 2GB GSkill sets are going that people recently received. I must buy new ram like tonight or tomorrow to get it ASAP. So please keep me updated.

Thanks,
Jared

[phatty2x4]

I've got mine @250 for now. I went directly from 200fsb to 250 and HOLY CRAP! This is fun. :) So far I like the G.Skill, anything over 250 is justa bonus. :p

[MaStA]

Well I ordered the GSkill last night from Newegg, so I will hope for the best. :)

[OldOne]

260 is the best I can do with the G.Skill

[Misfit138]

Asrock 949DualSATA2

Perhaps the ULI chipset has hit the wall before the RAM ?

[DeadSmiley]

Can you increase the vcore?

Yeah, I did a Rebel's volt mod and I can get it up to around 1.58v in .025 increments.

Edit: make that .025 increments! :rolleyes:

[DeadSmiley]

Perhaps the ULI chipset has hit the wall before the RAM ?

Many people have gotten over 2.9GHz with the A64 3200, so I don't think that is it. I have three boards here and none of the RAM will run at spec in any of the three. I don't think it's the board. I could be wrong though.

[Misfit138]

Many people have gotten over 2.9GHz with the A64 3200, so I don't think that is it. I have three boards here and none of the RAM will run at spec in any of the three. I don't think it's the board. I could be wrong though.
Getting 2.9GHz out of a Venice 3200 does not necessarily mean your RAM, board or memory controller will be able to keep up. If you are unable to achieve a satisfactory OC on your RAM on all 3 Asrock boards, perhaps you are asking too much of the board? I have no hands-on experience with the Asrock dual, but from it's specs it seems like you are asking for a pretty ambitious OC out of a moderately overclockable board.

[DeadSmiley]

Getting 2.9GHz out of a Venice 3200 does not necessarily mean your RAM, board or memory controller will be able to keep up. If you are unable to achieve a satisfactory OC on your RAM on all 3 Asrock boards, perhaps you are asking too much of the board? I have no hands-on experience with the Asrock dual, but from it's specs it seems like you are asking for a pretty ambitious OC out of a moderately overclockable board.


I would be happy with 2.5GHz. My X2 3800 will do 2.6GHz with little trouble using a divider for the RAM. It's the RAM that won't go DDR500. I have sent an e-mail to G.Skill tech support. Unfortunately, I don't have the RAM s/n's in front of me. I will post whatever they come back with. Maybe it is my board, but like I said... others have gotten over DDR600 with this board so I don't think asking for DDR500 is asking too much of it.

[Misfit138]

I.. others have gotten over DDR600 with this board so I don't think asking for DDR500 is asking too much of it.

Hmmmm.. was not aware that this board was so robust!
Good luck, and let us know what G.Skill has to say. :cool:

[DeadSmiley]

Some have done a VDIMM mod to get there with certain RAM types as this board only goes to 2.7v.

It will be interesting to hear what they say. I expect it will take a couple of days to get a reply. Their RMA document says to resend the RMA if you don't get a response in 72 hours.

Oh, and thanks!

[DeadSmiley]

These guys respond fast! :)


The thing is, my X2 3800 runs at 2.6GHz so I would have to use a divider anyway to run it at those speeds. Even with the divider, it would be greater than DDR400 so I would still need something better than DDR400 (not by much though) and this RAM runs solid at DDR480 on the DualSATA2 board. It has passed memtest86 for more than 19 hours, I forget how many passes. It did not fail memtest86, I stopped it to do other things. Today I discovered that memtest86 is out of date, no longer maintained and that I should be running memtest+ version 1.65. I did have OS corruption at DDR500 speeds. That is when I decided to test with memtest86, which I have done extensively. I don't expect this RAM to run above DDR500, even though many have claimed to have gotten DDR550 and above with it.


From: "G.Skill US Rep" <ustech@gskill.com>
To: <kslownospammers@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Trouble with F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ 2GB kits
Date: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:26:38 [View Source]

Hi

I am sorry to hear it. I would suggest you to RMA if that is the only way we
can help you. Let me know what you think. Thank you

Best regards,

Yen Liu
G.skill USA Rep

-----Original Message-----
From: kslownospammers@comcast.net [mailto:kslownospammers@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:20 AM
To: G.Skill US Rep
Subject: RE: Trouble with F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ 2GB kits

Yen Liu,

Thank you for your prompt reply.
I do not have a DFi or MSI board to test this RAM.

Best Regards,
Kelly Slow

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "G.Skill US Rep" <ustech@gskill.com>
> Hi
>
> We had many cases that ASUS motherboard had big compatible problem with
> Samsung UCCC chip and also the high FSB problem. Moreover, ASROCK is very
> hard to reach over 250 even with TCCD DDR600 guarantee memory. I will
> suggest you test your memory on other motherboard such as DFi and MSI.
Those
> motherboard makers design better AMD platform motherboard, especially for
> high FSB reached. Thank you
>
> Best regards,
>
> Yen Liu
> G.Skill USA Rep
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kslownospammers@comcast.net [mailto:kslownospammers@comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:39 AM
> To: ustech@gskill.com
> Subject: Trouble with F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ 2GB kits
>
> I have had this RAM for a about two weeks and I have been trying to get it
> to run at DDR500 for about a week. I bought three of these kits total and
> about all I can get out of them is DDR480.
>
> RAM G.Skill F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ
> Motherboard: Asrock 939DualSATA2
> CPU; AMD64 X2 3800, AMD64 3200, AMD64 3200
> Power supply: 500w
>
> RAM settings: 3-4-4-8, Command Rate 2T, 2.5v
>
> I have tried them at 2.7v and it just increases errors in memtest86. Case
> temperature is about 31 degrees C.
>
> Do you have any suggestions? I really would like to use this RAM for it's
> low voltage requirements, plus I heard good things about your company.
>
> One more question: I read the RMA policy and saw that the S/N is
required.
> That is the S/N on each individual RAM stick itself, correct?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Kelly Slow

[knight_of_knee]

i just bought a pair of these ocz sticks http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820227210
and they work like a dream, great timings, and everything runs smooth i would highly recommend this ram

[Kilyin]

i just bought a pair of these ocz sticks http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820227210
and they work like a dream, great timings, and everything runs smooth i would highly recommend this ram

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[DeadSmiley]

i just bought a pair of these ocz sticks http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820227210
and they work like a dream, great timings, and everything runs smooth i would highly recommend this ram


What motherboard are you using?

[phatty2x4]

"We are the knights that say..... KNEE!" :P Nice name. hehe.

Well, today I'll start pushing the ram and see if they can go past 250(gskills). Fingers are crossed. :shrug: :p

[phatty2x4]

Ran 9 passes of test #5 and finishing up several passes of test #8 in memtest @255, so far so good. 260 will be next.

[phatty2x4]

260 is looking good so far. :shrug: :)

[phatty2x4]

Doesn't like 265. :bang head But they seem to be responding well to voltage..... still testing........

[phatty2x4]

Well, the voltage kept giving me less errors as I raised it, but 3.0v and 3.1v both gave me 2 errors, so I put the vdimm back down to 2.6v and 264fsb didn't pass either, so 263 is testing now. So far I'm happy I even got 260 out of them, since I'll only be running them @250 anyway, but I thought I'd inform everyone of my findings.

[MaStA]

Well, the voltage kept giving me less errors as I raised it, but 3.0v and 3.1v both gave me 2 errors, so I put the vdimm back down to 2.6v and 264fsb didn't pass either, so 263 is testing now. So far I'm happy I even got 260 out of them, since I'll only be running them @250 anyway, but I thought I'd inform everyone of my findings.

Sure your cpu is not limiting the ram?

[phatty2x4]

Oh yeah, it's stable @250x10, 1.65v with my XP-120. I'm using a x9 multi to test the ram.

[osiris999]

i had no problem getting 270 out of them

[phatty2x4]

I'm wondering if 2t would help me?

[phatty2x4]

Looks like my memory controller isn't that great. I don't know what they can run at, honestly. :bang head

[DeadSmiley]

I was able to run DDR500 on both of my kids' Asrock boards after I changed the memory settings to Auto. When I run CPUZ I still see the same memory timings that I had before so this is a puzzler. My X2 3800 won't do DDR500 but it will do DDR490 with the G.Skill RAM. Last night I ran Prime95 torture test on my son's machine at 2.6GHz with a memory divider and it did not fail. I ran my daugther's the same at 2.7GHz and her's passed as well. I ran prime95 on both cores of my X2 3800 at 2.6GHz with memory divider and it did not fail either. I guess I really don't need DDR500 that bad. It would have been nice to run the kids' machines at 2.6GHz (which is where I set them at) with no memory divider, but that is not what I paid for. I left my machine at 2.6GHz as well and I leaving them running and extended session of prime95 while I am at work today.

Thanks for all the help guys! :)

[OnDborder]

You really like Asrock mobos? Ever thought about getting a dfi?

[DeadSmiley]

Asrock is Ok. The overall build quality seem pretty good and they work Ok. DFI makes some fine boards from what I hear. I am cheap though and only paid $65/each for these 3 boards.

[{FKR}Loki]

Heh not a single person even mentioned Crucial Ballistix that use samsung tccd's and can hit 280+@under 3.0v... :shrug:

[DeadSmiley]

Heh not a single person even mentioned Crucial Ballistix that use samsung tccd's and can hit 280+@under 3.0v... :shrug:


Do they make those in 2x1GB format?

[Eldonko]

Heh not a single person even mentioned Crucial Ballistix that use samsung tccd's and can hit 280+@under 3.0v... :shrug:I'm thinking no one mentioned Ballistix because it's no longer avail. It also uses Micron -5B D chips if you are talking about 1 gig modules.

[{FKR}Loki]

I'm thinking no one mentioned Ballistix because it's no longer avail. It also uses Micron -5B D chips if you are talking about 1 gig modules.

I stand corrected on the chips but they do hit 280+ under3.v from my experince

[phatty2x4]

Well, eq2 doesn't like the FSB @500, so I had to change to the multi to 11 and fsb to 230 and all is well. I did change the timings to 3-3-3-8.