Toshiba's Plasma/LCD Killer: A promising new technology

[guillaume]

Interesting article on Toshiba's next generation of TV Sets...looks really promising and worth following!

http://gear.ign.com/articles/679/679235p1.html

[tom10167]

Hella. Better than OLED!

[futura2001]

I read about this sometime mid last year. Glad to see that it is coming along alright.
Makes you wonder though, what do you think initial prices are going to be like? I'm guessing somewhere along the lines of 10k for the flagship set on release.
And I hope Toshiba releases computer displays with this technology, I and a lot of other digital artists would be willing to pay an arm and a leg (or alternatively the firstborn son) for a monitor that produces truly accurate colors...

[Wiggles]

It stated that the technology can be mass-produced on a cheaper scale than Plasma or LCD's. So hopefully they won't be too outrageously priced (but most likely will to begin with).

[dfonda]

I wonder why their cameras and pics are so horrible?

But 100000:1 contrast ratio my socks just blew off!!!That compares to plasma at 3000:1

[doublejack]

I wonder if this is going to be as easy on the eyes as plasma & LCD technology, or if it's going to be more like CRT in that aspect.

[murdok5]

damn ill give up a first born son....can make another easy :)

[dawei213]

But how long will it take to bring to the market? *sigh*... OLED have been in the "community" talk for the past few years and nothing yet. Just wish we had more options!! :D

[Echo_]

buying a t.v. right now is so hard

think about it the last 50 years or whatever crt was the best and basically only choice

now plasma is basically outdated (imo by lcd), dlp has great color but takes a lot of space, lcd are pretty good but lcos, oled and now sed are supppose to be better

confusing

[dawei213]

Well, it's great for us consumer to have so many types of tv. But now they should get the next gen high definition DVD standard stamped out!

[doublejack]

buying a t.v. right now is so hard

think about it the last 50 years or whatever crt was the best and basically only choice

now plasma is basically outdated (imo by lcd), dlp has great color but takes a lot of space, lcd are pretty good but lcos, oled and now sed are supppose to be better

confusing

Not really, they actually compliment each other. Plasma sets have relatively large pixels so you really don't see any sets smaller than 42". The HDTV flavors are mostly 50" and up.

LCD on the other hand has the opposite problem, the pixels are relatively small and making a defect free large panel is basically impossible. There are some 42" LCDs on the market now but that's the max.

So if you need a small flat TV then LCD is the choice, and if you want large then it's plasma. But yeah, most of plasma's other advantages over LCD have basically gone away as LCDs continue to improve. The last holdout is price. You can buy a 42" plasma for the same (or possibly less than) a 37" LCD.

But back to the topic, I think it'll be several years before this new technology is available at an affordable price. Plasma technology was actually invented decades ago, and TVs have used it for almost 10 years but for most of that time they were far too expensive for the middle class. I'm sure this will be no different.

[rseven]

Yes, I saw that article last night and started drooling. It sounds like it will be out this year and not all that pricey. The problem with any of these new TVs is if something goes wrong they have to get the parts fromthe outer galaxy and it takes months. I found this to be true even with large screen CRTs 5 years ago. Imagine laying out several grand to have the TV in the shop for 3 months! That said, if I had the bucks to spare I be one of them like flies on s***!

[Xtreme Barton]

1ms response ... thats whats up !!

[Vengance_01]

Right now DLPs are the way to go. Great picture and quailty but at a price that won't break the bank, and then these OLED's or next gen comes out you can grab one down the line. The only con is space.

[KingFish]

Wow, the specs lok great on paper...I'd love to see one in person

[Audioaficionado]

Right now DLPs are the way to go. Great picture and quailty but at a price that won't break the bank, and then these OLED's or next gen comes out you can grab one down the line. The only con is space.DLP doesn't work for me because I can clearly see that rainbow effect. If I go look at an array of LCD and DLP rear projection sets, I can pick out the DLPs in a matter of seconds. My wife can see it too.

If those new plasmas don't burn in images like the current ones do, then they could double as a real cool desktop/HTPC/gaming monitors. Otherwise I'll wait for a nice LCD set.

I imagine if you weren't careful while using your 10,000:1 contrast ratio plasma set, you might get sunburned watching skiing videos :p

[DaWiper]

I posted a thread about this technology some months ago:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=412121&highlight=sed

[thegreek]

I imagine if you weren't careful while using your 10,000:1 contrast ratio plasma set, you might get sunburned watching skiing videos :p
I'll run and get the sunblock :cool:

[KingFish]

I'd love to test that concept :attn:

[motherboard1]

what is the benefit of haveing such high contrast ratios? :shrug: I have a 550:1 contrast ratio on my LCD, and I keep the contrast on 2-4 out of 32, thats almost all the way down

when you turn it up, the color doesnt look real anymore, and the higher you turn it up, the worse it looks, it gets brighter, so it helps in some games when your haveing a hard time seeing your targets in dark areas, but I wouldnt use it high when I didnt have to

of course, the desktop environment looks more vibrant if I turn it up just a little, but anything else looks phoney

[Evil_Eye]

what is the benefit of haveing such high contrast ratios? :shrug: I have a 550:1 contrast ratio on my LCD, and I keep the contrast on 2-4 out of 32, thats almost all the way down

when you turn it up, the color doesnt look real anymore, and the higher you turn it up, the worse it looks, it gets brighter, so it helps in some games when your haveing a hard time seeing your targets in dark areas, but I wouldnt use it high when I didnt have to

of course, the desktop environment looks more vibrant if I turn it up just a little, but anything else looks phoney

Contrast and contrast ratio are two very different things.

Contrast (the setting) has to do with setting the screen's light level. This is different from the brightness setting which has more to deal with "adjusting the video signal's zero-level to equal black on the monitor screen". Both of these are referenced in a nokia monitor test I have.

Contrast ratio on the other hand is the difference between the brightest white and the blackest black.

[motherboard1]

ok, thanks, think it makes more sence to me now

so is it safe to say that with higher contrast ratio, your blacks will be blacker ? or would that be assumeing to much

[doublejack]

ok, thanks, think it makes more sence to me now

so is it safe to say that with higher contrast ratio, your blacks will be blacker ? or would that be assumeing to much

That's what it means. The higher the contrast ratio the closer to true black it will be.

[Evil_Eye]

Speaking of SEDs, I know that they will be used in TVs that have a fixed resolution, but what of computer monitors?

Will there be "native resolution" or will it change as well as a crt does through the resolutions? Initial thoughts, opinions?