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Direwolf
10-30-01, 04:17 PM
I have ordered my 1800xp with the good core ect. The case I ordered was the antec 1030,
would have got the 1040 but didnt have the extra cash :(

Give me some opinions on what to do. Think the 300watts enough for now?

specs

1800xp
epox 8k7a
Alpha PAL8045
Delta 68cfm
geforce 2mx 200
micron 2100 ddr

I sure hope I have enough watts to run this thing lol

]-[itman
10-30-01, 04:28 PM
I think without overclocking you should be fine. However 300W is definitely a minimum and if you're considering overclocking I would get another 100W psu and just hook you're cdrom's and such on it or get a more powerful psu and switch them but for right now i'd say you're ok.

Warlord2
10-30-01, 05:25 PM
you could try it

your 5v wire will start getting really low if you try oc it enough

it really depends on how many case fans you are going to put in and how big they are

also if you get more drives you will start to notice alot of crashing and prohaps a psu fire

Direwolf
10-30-01, 06:19 PM
well I will be running 2 80mm fans including 1 80mm for the heatsink,1cdrom,1floppydrive,plus the geforce 2


i may leave my sblive off since the mobo has onboard sound since i dont want to stress the ps

max i would try to oc to would be 1800 (11.5X157)

]-[itman
10-30-01, 06:30 PM
personally i would not try an overclock especially that high without another psu. too much power trying to be sucked from a psu can be a VERY BAD THING!!! I don't mean the psu quits so everything turns off. In worst case scenerio the psu goes BOOM and takes everything with it. Motherboard, cup, sound card, video card, everything but the cdrom drive and floppy drive but even they can go too. Maybe i'm just paranoid(:p) but I would never try it.

killem1x1
10-30-01, 06:40 PM
You can get a very good 400w PSU for around $30.00 USD. I actually buy the ones I use retail. It's called a POWMAX, and I've had very good luck with them.

Direwolf
10-30-01, 07:55 PM
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43403

check that out, a few of those guys are running all kinds of **** with a 300 watt and another guy with his 200 watt ps and there systems are oc'ed and stable

:p you guys are freaking me out about my ps blowing up n ****

lol errrr :(

]-[itman
10-30-01, 08:03 PM
sorry didn't mean to freak you out and i'm sure that the system will run fine with the 300w psu but I wouldn't try an overclock to 1.8ghz with it for sure. Like I said maybe i'm just paranoid but what i said above can happen.

Hoot
10-30-01, 09:39 PM
Antecs are great workhorses and if they say 300W, you can rest assured it will deliver 300W. That is certainly not the case with many "no-name" PSUs. For your hardware compliment, I'd say overclock it as far as you can run stable. It will not hurt to try for as much as you can get. The thing won't detonate, it'll just get to a point where it won't run any faster. At that point, you have just found your upper limit. The 10xx Antec cases are great. I have a 1040. They only come with 2 fans in the 4 knock-outs, but they are wimpy as 80mm fans go, though quiet. If you don't want to hack on it, Move those two wimpy fans to the rear knock-outs (on exhaust) and put two higher cfm 80mm fans in the front blowing in. They'll help keep the PSU and the case in general running cooler.

We need a PSU forum.

Hoot

Direwolf
10-30-01, 09:58 PM
Yea, mine comes with the two installed in the rear already. I have a 80mm on my old computer right now (its wimpy also) but its better than nothing :)

Overall 3 80mm wimpy fans plus 1 80mm n steroids (delta 68) should keep the case cool enough for me to break the 1.533 barrier.

Lets hope :D

bigfoot
10-31-01, 01:58 AM
I just thought I'd add on to this, I was planning on getting a new system packed with a 1.4 Ghz T-Bird but I'm a little straped on monney at this moment so I was wondering what I could do with an older 250W PSU, if anything, I'm guessing If I do that at all I might even have to *cough, Chock* Underclock it:eek:

Hoot
10-31-01, 06:28 AM
Don't do it. You are better off waiting until you have scratched up a little more money and only have to pay once for all. No point stressing yourself trying to debug system problems relating to a weak PSU.

Hoot

DaveB
10-31-01, 08:09 AM
Since the Antec comes with the case, of course you should use it. I'm running the following system with the Antec 350W PS completely stable for over 3 months overclocked to the hilt. It has the same +5V and 3.3V specs as the 300W model, but has more amps on the +12V rail. I needed that for my multiple SCSI and IDE drives, you don't. Plus, your XP CPU uses less power than my 1.4 GHz @ 1.618 GHz anyway. It should be fine.

Athlon 1.4 @ 1.618 GHz (1.87V) @ 10.5 X 154 MHz
Shuttle AK31V2 KT266 Motherboard
Thermalright SK6 HS with 40 cfm 7K YS Tech Fan
256 MB Crucial PC2100 DDR RAM @ CAS2
Western Digital 30GB 7200 rpm ATA100 IDE HD
Adaptec 2940UW SCSI Controller
Seagate Barracuda 18GB 7200 rpm SCSI U2W HD
CyberDrive 24x SCSI CD-ROM
S&F (Sanyo) 8x/20x SCSI CDR
Visiontek GeForce2 GTS Ultra 64MB DDR AGP @ 275/500
SBLive! 5.1 OEM PCI Sound
Generic ATX Case with Antec PP352X 350W PS
56K Modem
Dual Boot Win2K SP2 and Win98 OEM

Direwolf
10-31-01, 09:41 AM
http://www.antec-inc.com/product/powers/pp303x.html

OverLoad protection

Latching Protection
+5V @ < 48A
+3.3V @ < 60A
+12V @ < 20A

whats overload protection mean? anyone have a clue?

RangerJoe34
10-31-01, 04:54 PM
no, im telling you right now get at least a 400 watt psu, with my 300 watter i cant get my 1.33 past 1.42 and be stable and my temps are as you see below, so thats not a problem, and the cpu isnt locked, so i know its the psu due to other things that people on here have told me, you need at least a 400 watter for an xp 1800. so spend the extra money and get that, because if you computer wont even start up then you will be screwed

Dagon
10-31-01, 05:00 PM
IMHO Antec makes the best PSU's hands down. You're going to be fine with a 300watt Antec. Why? See sig..I just added a DVD player too, no change....1.85vcore doesn't change it either. 4 80mm sunon's also. All PSU's are not created equal, the 400watt is nice but is not needed.

Scann69
10-31-01, 08:58 PM
oh man, now i'm worried. i'm only using a 300W PSU and my sistem has 3 Rom Drives, 3 Casing Fans, 1 huge Swiftech 462 Fan, Floppy, 2 hard drive, 1 zip drive and i'm trying to clock my XP 1600+ to the max. now with all the blowing up of PSU i don't think i want to overclock anymore :(
what is the default Voltage for the XP 1600+ as i'm runing it at 1.85v already.
apart from that, does the Roms us up more power when running as i usually burn CD's and watch DVD at the same time.
thanx to your but i'm i'm really freaking out cause i'm at work now and my systems is runing at home.
anybody with any bright ideas are most welcome.
thanx for the info

Hoot
10-31-01, 09:52 PM
I'll repeat this again. In all likelihood, it will not blow up. It just won't run stable if you overtax it. I'm sure there is someone who managed to blow up a PSU, who will chime in, but I would not rush home at lunch over it.

Hoot

]-[itman
10-31-01, 09:58 PM
Ya i didn't mean to scare anyone at all. Infact a psu exploding is a very rare thing.(i'm just paranoid). Infact i'm going to be running a 1600+ system with a 300W psu but i'm not going to oc it very far. As Hoot said don't worry about it. As soon as stuff starts failing on you and you've narrowed down all other possibilities that's when you know you went to far for the psu. Back it up a little bit and you're fine.

supraway
10-31-01, 10:02 PM
The new XP processors actually require less power than the older Athlons, thus running cooler. Antec tends to make a very good power supply, so I think you will be just fine with that. If you decide to overclock, you may eventually want to get a larger power supply, but really, you are probably well above required power specs.

DaveB
10-31-01, 10:29 PM
Actually Antec doesn't make their supplies. A company named Heroichi Electric Ltd. (HEC) does. My Antec PP352X has the part number HEC 350LD on it, which is listed in AMD approved list. The picture of the HEC LD series supply at the HEC website is identical to my Antec.

http://db.6ri.com.tw/compucase/show.php3?num=88

Scann69
11-01-01, 01:50 AM
come to think of it, probably that is whyi cannot clock my XP chip any higher. anybody knows how to unlock the XP 1600+ chip? currently i'm only clocking it with the FSB which don't seem to be doing too well. hopefully somebody here can help me with this. i'm already using the biggest HSF..... the Swiftech 462A and spend alot of money on it so i really want to make full us of it :)
somebody please help me. i'll buy u a drink :p

nikhsub1
11-01-01, 03:05 AM
I actually have a 2 week old 400w Antec that I am going to ebay. If anyone is interested pm me. @ $50 plus shipping.;)

zangler
11-01-01, 03:24 AM
check the sig, and know you will be ok. i run seti 24/7, my computer has not crashed once(except when i make it do stupid things....but that is my fault) 300w works for me, with 4 ide devices, many cards, 4 case fans, and overclocking. antec rules in this arena.

oc jason
11-01-01, 08:01 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Direwolf
[B]http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43403

check that out, a few of those guys are running all kinds of **** with a 300 watt and another guy with his 200 watt ps and there systems are oc'ed and stable



i am running a 200wayy max PS on my system. with 3 exra fans

Winterhawk
11-01-01, 10:33 AM
Yep- Antec rocks. If there's a 300 watt PS out there that'll float your boat, it's their's.. :cool:

Hugo 59
11-01-01, 10:48 AM
I think you will be fine with the Antec 300 watt. I have the same powersupply in my sx830 and this is what I am currently running completely stable:

DVD-ROM
CD-ROM
4 case fans
1 slot fan
soundcard
NIC
swiftech HSF
Tbird 1.33 @ 1.52 @ 1.92V
floppy drive
hard drive

The powersupply has never been a problem. I would rather have an antec 300 watt then a lot of company's 400 watt.

My 2¢

zangler
11-01-01, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Hugo 59

The powersupply has never been a problem. I would rather have an antec 300 watt then a lot of company's 400 watt.



i agree, and second.

Direwolf
11-01-01, 01:56 PM
Well thanks a lot! This really makes me feel a lot better about my computer

appreciate everybodys help :D

Angry
11-01-01, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by DaveB
Actually Antec doesn't make their supplies. A company named Heroichi Electric Ltd. (HEC) does. My Antec PP352X has the part number HEC 350LD on it, which is listed in AMD approved list. The picture of the HEC LD series supply at the HEC website is identical to my Antec.

http://db.6ri.com.tw/compucase/show.php3?num=88

HA! Alright I got a 300 watter with Heroichi on it. (thought it was some cheapo)
Now maybe I can get rid of this loud 230 watt AT powersupply that powers chipset fan,vid card fan, and fan blowing over cpu.
I dont think my 550mhz a 611mhz slot a athlon needs that much, unless the pcb around its draws juice...

Now I have a 300watt Premir cheapo that gets the job done when used...i actualy paid the same but the Heroichi has more connectors for IDE devices and such...

Autolectrician
11-01-01, 07:26 PM
First off power supplies have to be ul rated which means they have to have some sort of overload protection. ussualy a fuse some use reseting brakers most power supplies that are said to be burnt up are still fine just need fusr replaced.

Angry
11-01-01, 08:55 PM
Yeah..but I was reading somewhere that a p4 powersupply literaly went up in smoke, killed a 2gig p2, the website was offering a chance to win a p4 keychain. Now that is one thing intel is good for, keychains, I have 2, p233mhz and p75mhz gota make a hole though the p75..