How the hell do some of you have 40k+ score on 2001 SE?

[NDX_WARLORD]

That's rediculous, I can barely break 25k

[Gautam]

By having a lot of time to kill, basically, lol. It's probably the most finicky benchmark out there, both in terms of what hardware it likes and how it needs to be massaged just right...that's why some of us love it. Though don't be fooled, it's often far less than an accurate indicator of real-world performance.

[RangerXLT8]

That's rediculous, I can barely break 25k

Very high CPU clocks, and Crossfire\SLi setups. What kind of GPU are you running?

[stang8118]

Very high CPU clocks, and Crossfire\SLi setups. What kind of GPU are you running?


Acually you don't need crossfire/sli... it acually doesn't help in 01 much. All OCforums 40k members in 01' are running single cards.

[d]g[ts]

Very high CPU clocks, and Crossfire\SLi setups. What kind of GPU are you running?

CPU clocks yes. But the four members here who have posted 40K+ scores were all single card.
Basicaly for 40K ya gotta tune your rig for the benchmark ONLY, and max everything. CPU, mem and GFx all gotta be there. (at least in my case thats how it was) Lastly everyone here had something in there rig frozen to attain 40K

[NDX_WARLORD]

Look at my signature for my specs...

[Gautam]

You didn't list your video card...heh.

It's also noteworthy to point out that all the 40k rigs here had over a grand invested in cooling...except for mine. :p Not that I was much warmer though.

[NDX_WARLORD]

I had my video card in there originally but I just noticed 5 minutes ago it was gone, I guess I erased it when I resized my font because many people said my sig was too BIG =\

[d94]

im curious about this aswell! i get 33k..how do i reach the magical point mark? ^^
my setup is pretty top notch

[RangerXLT8]

g[ts']CPU clocks yes. But the four members here who have posted 40K+ scores were all single card.
Basicaly for 40K ya gotta tune your rig for the benchmark ONLY, and max everything. CPU, mem and GFx all gotta be there. (at least in my case thats how it was) Lastly everyone here had something in there rig frozen to attain 40K

"LAstly everyone had something in their rig frozen to attain 40k."

That's how they get 40k, hell maxi got around 45k if I'm not mistaken.

[NDX_WARLORD]

"LAstly everyone had something in their rig frozen to attain 40k."

That's how they get 40k, hell maxi got around 45k if I'm not mistaken.

So need more cooling?

[El<(')>Maxi]

Here's a formula for 40K

A64 running at least 3.3Ghz card on air @ 630/650 (X800/X850 16 pipes)
Windows 2000 & DX 8
High memory speed (275Mhz works good) with Low latency, ie BH-5
Catalyst 4.12 drivers
Correct test order- I use LL,LH,CH,DL,DH,N,CL x 10

Another way would be with SLI or a new gen X1800. With X1800 you could reach 40K with less CPU power, around 2.9-3.0Ghz

Dual cores are nice but the 3800 is going to be hard pressed to get it done. Of course there is LOD for ATI now, something I have not played with. And yes, cooling never hurts ;)

[bazx]

Here's a formula for 40K

A64 running at least 3.3Ghz card on air @ 630/650 (X800/X850 16 pipes)
Windows 2000 & DX 8
High memory speed (275Mhz works good) with Low latency, ie BH-5
Catalyst 4.12 drivers
Correct test order- I use LL,LH,CH,DL,DH,N,CL x 10

Another way would be with SLI or a new gen X1800. With X1800 you could reach 40K with less CPU power, around 2.9-3.0Ghz

Dual cores are nice but the 3800 is going to be hard pressed to get it done. Of course there is LOD for ATI now, something I have not played with. And yes, cooling never hurts ;)


ndx i would copy and past this somewhere for ref maxi wont say it again :santa:

[NDX_WARLORD]

Do you think it's possible on WinXP? I doubt it's worth the trouble of installing win2k

[HousERaT]

You can do it on XP but then you'll have to get better cpu and gpu clocks than in 2000.

[El<(')>Maxi]

All air you could do it on an Opteron running 2.9-3.0Ghz with X1800. I forgot one important point, you need to run with APIC Multiprocessor driver (single core).

Without Windows 2000 you loose close to 1K points, you can doubt it all you like :)

[Gautam]

I don't really agree with the test order, but whatever works works. You undershot the card clocks quite a bit IMHO. Perhaps this (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8551109) will refresh your memory. :p And here's (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8334690) what happens when you begin to run the GPU too low. (Though his memory in particular is the bottleneck there.) All in all you usually need an above average card on at least water, or phase change on an average--crap card like mine, air is only enough if you've got the earth shattering power of an FX57 or similar on phase, as Sucka did.

[El<(')>Maxi]

What I mentioned above are the absolute minimum's ;)

That first link is not run with the best driver or memory timings and is not 3.3Ghz either :)

Test order is preference to degree. I like to get the systems tests out of the way at slightly lower card clocks before maxing everything for Drago's, Nature and CL. I used to run CH first because I hated that test but the FPS gained is not worth it. I don't remember your order but if I had to guess would it be like this?

LL,DL,CH,LH,DH,N,CL

[d]g[ts]

All air you could do it on an Opteron running 2.9-3.0Ghz with X1800. I forgot one important point, you need to run with APIC Multiprocessor driver (single core).

Without Windows 2000 you loose close to 1K points, you can doubt it all you like :)
2 very excellent points here. @k with ACPI tweak is worth Loads of points toward the goal. Another observation is that the three A64 CPU's had 1meg of lvl2 cache which does better in 01 over its 512 cache counterparts. Basicaly with a 512 chip you need about 150Mhz more CPU speed to make up for the lack of cache. (Gautams dothan is just a different animal)

RangerXLT8: Maxi has Posted 3 or 4 40K scores over the last 8 months with a few different chips and cards.

[Gautam]

Not far off, DL, LL, CH, DH, LH, N, CL. IMHO high detail tests don't gain as much from being run early, but low details (except for CL of course) lose really badly from being run late. I tried LL, DL etc and it wasn't as good as sticking DL at first either. Between the high detail tests, I think the order can pretty much be interchangeable. But all of that is probably only a couple hundred points at most, if even that. I think everyone can agree with the N, CL x 10 part, most important. :p

[wa77ss]

I scored 30100K+ in my rig. As said before, you must tweak it. I score higher when my GPU is clocked lower than I do when its clocked higher. :shrug:

[Joe Camel]

ok....you asked for it!

totally UN-tweaked
straight through not 1x test @ a time...DX 9c...etc etc (LOTS of room for improvement!)
i am on win2k though... ;)
not suicide on ANYTHING (CPU, system MEM or GPU, MEM)
probably very close though ;)

GPU 1.45v (666)
Vdd 2.151v (846)
Stock cooling
Beta Drivers

(pic went here)

:attn:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1913/41kin014cy.jpg


EDIT:
cant post in the 01 thread till these 6.2's go "official" and Orb lets us post x1900 card scores :(

[speed bump]

It is very simple to get 40k all it takes is TTC of which I have none right now. Time, Talent, Cash/

[Gautam]

EDIT:
cant post in the 01 thread till these 6.2's go "official" and Orb lets us post x1900 card scores :(
About time , Joe. ;)

[speed bump]

Come on joe you know you can hit that 44k. Get cracking:D

[Joe Camel]

armed with the "golden order" to run single tests in, DX8, and finding the "suicide' limit of my rig (again)...it just might happen.

but then Maxi is going to whip out the ol' mouse-pot; D-ice his card and put us all to shame (again) :)

this is still on stock cooling...well semi-stock ;)
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4287972&postcount=403

(been E-mailing VJ about a TEC block today....:))

[bignick]

How do you change the test order? I have looked in the selected tests section and all I see is check marks?

[Gautam]

Check only one of em at a time. ;)

[bignick]

I still don't understand? How do you only check one at a time and run the benchmark with all the tests?

[speed bump]

go to select tests then go to the custom tests tabs uncheck everything but the test you want to run.

[El<(')>Maxi]

Once you have run each individual test it will calculate a score, it will also give a result without Nature being run because it was released back when many cards did not support DX8.

[bignick]

Thanks I will give it a try. And what is the advantage of this other than the cool down periods?

[speed bump]

I think that its worth quite abit in certain tests such as drago low being ran 3rd will be unbeatable compared to running it anywhere else. Nature is best ran towards the end. Car low is ran multiple times at the end becuase you often get a huge boost on one of the runs.

[bignick]

Well I tried benching each test one at a time and my score went down? I don't know right now I'm so tired. Best score tonight was 26260 but I forgot to put it on ORB this was my second best run. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8892485
Any other tricks to sqeeze any more points out of this bench. I am going to try a run at 4000mhz and see how many points that gets me. I really want to break 30K but I don't see it happening on air.

[speed bump]

Run it in real time thats a huge boost for Intels.

One other way that I like benching is run everything but nature in normal order just below max clocks. Then run Nature at max clocks. Save score then go for a better car low. When you get that save your score again. Then look at your details see if anything could be better and rerun whatever looks weak again also saving your score when you get something better.

Also go into the 3dmark tweak thread and download glock19owners service killer. Do a fresh install of windows use DX9.0c forceware 81.89's I believe are still the best drivers, do a fresh defrag, put a shortcut to the startup.bat from glock19 in your startup folder . Run 3dmark in real time. Open a window for some colder air and pray like mad it works.

That probably wont get you 30k but it should get you 28k maybe

Finally the only tests that need to be run are the game tests ignore the other stuff its boring and ussually hurts your score.

[bignick]

Thanks speed bump. I read the tweak thread and learned alot. I live in Louisiana so I don't get that many cold nights but it's supposed to be 28 degrees tommorow night. I will try another run then. It's not worth it to me to do a fresh install but I will try all the other tweaks. I would be happy with 28K. I think re-running the low-chase is going to help a bunch from what I read. I mean how many P4/6800 users on air can say the scored even 26K?

[bignick]

Well I checked the ORB and there is no P4/6800GS's that scored that high I'm on top by almost 6000 points!

[OC/ingmaddog]

Well I didn't break 40k but I did 30k:D.

31735. I changed all my IQ settings to high performance and went from about 200 fps in Nature to 277!!! Holy crap. I was so happy. Running in real-time and changing the res really helped me. Also running the tests in the order Gautum suggested.

[speed bump]

Nice job now don't get *to* addicted to our madness ;)

Well I checked the ORB and there is no P4/6800GS's that scored that high I'm on top by almost 6000 points!

Nice job futuremark seems down right now so i'll ask you how close you are to the top score on the orb.

[bignick]

Not close at all but I would think most of those systems are on water and most say they are using SLI ( not that it helps in 01' ). I am #15 on the list and 7900 points from the top. I am the only Intel system on the first page. It seems that I have hit a wall with that score nothing else I do brings my score up. I am tring to sqeeze a couple hundred more points and I'm done.

[El<(')>Maxi]

Came across this on the ORB today, for anyone wondering if W2K is that big a difference or worth the effort this should make it plain. Compare of my current 01 with chefnr1 of TechSweden. Good comparison between XP/DX 9 & Windows 2000/DX 8

He has higher CPU clock but lower card @ 815/855, my card running 810/900. Either way it's plain to see in the system tests only such as CH and both Lobbies. 2000 is a huge difference. There may also be a little bit of test order/memory settings here but the main difference is the OS.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/XP2000CP1.jpg