OEM stuff

[bamaboy]

on OEM stuff i know you dont get the fancy box, but what exactly do you get if you buy oem vs retail (all this from newegg)

will oem come with the jumpers, cables, and everything you need to hook it up what wont it come with

this goes for hard drives and dvd burners

i know on dvd drives if you get a dvd drive it will have the company name on the retail version and not on the oem

[tom10167]

Jumpers yes. That's it, all you need.

[bamaboy]

what about the ide cables? do i ahve to buy those seperatly?

[thegreek]

no cables or anything, just the drive (and jumpers)

[bamaboy]

do you still need audio cableS?

[thegreek]

OEM does not come with anything but the drive. You should already have cables and if not (a new build), your MB should supply you with what you need.

[Xtreme Barton]

you dont NEED them ...

[moz_21]

An OEM hard drive from Newegg will come in the factory antistatic bag, wrapped in like 2 inches of bubblewrap. Both HDD's and CDx/DVDx's come with the jumper(s). No audio or IDE cables will come with them.

[bamaboy]

yea the mobo comes with the ide cables but i dont think any audio so i dont need them?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Showimage.asp?Mode=&Type=&Image=13-131-538-01.jpg%2C13-131-538-02.jpg%2C13-131-538-03.jpg%2C13-131-538-04.jpg&CurImage=13-131-538-03.jpg&Description=ASUS+P5LD2+Socket+T+%28LGA+775%29+Inte l+945P+ATX+Intel+Motherboard+-+Retail


would it be better to spend 5$ extra and get the retail lightscribe drive will it have any software or anthing extra that would be useful because i know i bought a memorex external cd burner a few months back and it had nero 6 in it

[bamaboy]

well the light scribe does need a program to work so should i get the retail

[Xtreme Barton]

just spend the extra 5 bucks.

can you link to the drive you are talking about .

[bamaboy]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&description=benq+ightscribe&Submit=ENE&Ntk=all&N=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

[bamaboy]

anyone have coupons for newegg? and is there anywhere that has cheaper prices with good service like newegg

[damarble]

:welcome:

and is there anywhere that has cheaper prices with good service like newegg


http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=392555

[Xtreme Barton]

bad link. try again

[bamaboy]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101008
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101006

[Xtreme Barton]

well looking at the two ....you have simple options...

pay the extra 5 bucks and get free lightscribe capable disc(s) and sofware to enable the use of lightscribe.

or if you have Nero 6.6.0.8 or a later version installed save the money and get the oem...



5 dollar difference is nothing really and worth having the option to play with the software that came with it ...


go with retail version

[Xtreme Barton]

and when you get it be sure to get the new firmware :D


happy lightscribing !!

[bamaboy]

yea i am, im just going oem for regular DVD rom

does it matter whihc drive i use as primary/slave? i want the dvd rw as primary i think or it really dosent matter

[Xtreme Barton]

how many hard drives do you have ??

i would setup a hard drive on your primary beng the master and your dvd-rom as slave..

and then on your secondary put your second hard drive as primary and dvd burner as slave. or if you only have one hard drive make your dvd burner the master..

[bamaboy]

i have 1 250gb hdd
dvd rom
and dvd rw

what would be the best
dvd rw is gonna be master and dvd rom is gonna be slave
hard drive is sata

[Xtreme Barton]

so your hard drive is sata and the dvd's are ide..

put your burner on primary ide as master

put your dvd-rom on secondary ide as master


do not have them on same cable in your situation..

[bamaboy]

dont put them on the same cable? okay

on my mobo i have a PRI_EIDE and SEC_EIDE then a PRI_IDE

so im gonna use the EIDE ones right ths drives are ATA/ATAPI

[bamaboy]

what about my hard drive from my old pc, what would be the easiest ways to transfer files to the new computer

could i hook the hard drive up to the mobo and transfer them that way or i dont want to setup a network or really burn it all to a disk

[Xtreme Barton]

what mobo do you have ?

[bamaboy]

asus p5ld2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131538
3 ATA100
4 SATAII

[Xtreme Barton]

just put your old hd on as a slave on your primary or secodary .. transfer files and remove it .. or leave it there for extra storage.. or if you have extra cables just put them all on there own as masters..

[bamaboy]

it has a primary_ide and primary EIDE and secondary EIDE

what is the difference between eide and ide?

[Xtreme Barton]

"Enhanced IDE, also called EIDE, is a term that Western Digital coined in 1994 to represent a particular set of extensions it devised to the original AT Attachment standard. At that time, the official ATA standard was rather limiting, and work was progressing towards the new ATA-2 standard. Western Digital decided that it did not want to wait for the new standard, and also that it could better position itself as a market leader by creating a new feature set for (then) future drives. The name "Enhanced IDE" was presumably selected to build upon the common name for ATA then in popular use: IDE.

The original Enhanced IDE program included the following improvements over ATA:

ATA-2 Enhancements: EIDE includes all (most?) of the improvements that are defined as part of the ATA-2 standard, including the higher-speed transfer modes.
ATAPI: The EIDE definition includes support for non-hard-disk ATAPI devices on the IDE/ATA channel. Note that at that time, ATAPI was not part of the ATA standard at all.
Dual IDE/ATA Host Adapters: The EIDE standard specifically includes support for dual IDE/ATA channels, allowing four IDE/ATA/ATAPI devices to be used. (In fact, the ATA standard at the time never precluded the use of two IDE/ATA channels; it just was not commonly done.)
EIDE has become a widely-accepted term in the industry, which would be great if not for the fact that it is so incredibly confusing. Objections to EIDE include the following issues:

Proprietary Standard: EIDE is not an official standard, and it competed with other non-standard IDE/ATA terms like Fast ATA. Of course, that criticism applies not just to EIDE.
Scope: Much of the criticism of the original EIDE program is that its scope was too wide, and that it encompassed features that are really the domain of the BIOS. For example, support for dual IDE/ATA host adapters, meaning a secondary IDE/ATA channel, has nothing to do with the interface or the hard disk itself. And ATAPI is a standard that is defined for use with optical drives and other non-hard-disk devices, which again requires BIOS and driver support and really has nothing to do with the hard disk. At the time, other hard disk manufacturers not only excluded these from their own standard proposals (such as Fast ATA), they made a point of criticizing Western Digital for bringing these issues into the interface discussion.
The Word "Enhanced": The choice of the word "enhanced" was unfortunate, as it led to confusion in another area. At around the same time that EIDE was introduced, the 504 MB hard disk size barrier became a big issue. To work around this required an "enhanced BIOS". Because of the fact that both of these phrases use the word "enhanced", and because EIDE defines BIOS support standards, many people have come to think of the terms as interchangeable when they really are not. This has lead to claims that you need an enhanced IDE interface to support disks over 504 MB, when you don't--you just need an enhanced BIOS. As if this weren't bad enough, some companies advertised add-in cards with enhanced BIOSes as "enhanced IDE cards"!
Redefinition: Since EIDE is Western Digital's term, they have the right to change its meaning, and unfortunately, they do this on a regular basis. At first, EIDE included only PIO modes up to mode 3; then mode 4 was added. When the new Ultra DMA modes came out, WD of course added support for them to their newest models, but they kept calling the drives "EIDE"! Today other drive manufacturers also say things like "EIDE compatible", leaving you wondering what exactly this means.
Some people in the hard disk industry apparently feel that the creation of "Enhanced IDE" was one of the worst things to ever happen to the IDE/ATA interface! I think that is probably a bit over-stated, though I do agree that it is probably one of the most confusing things to ever happen to the IDE/ATA interface. Much of the criticism is valid, but some of it is just the usual conflicts between rivals in a very competitive industry. And I do think Western Digital's goal of expanding IDE/ATA capabilities was a laudable one, even if the implementation of the program left a bit to be desired.

Of all the criticisms leveled at Western Digital, there's one that I personally agree with strongly, and that's the issue of redefining the term. Every time the IDE/ATA interface standards change, Western Digital changes the actual interface specifics of its drives, but continues to list the interface of the drive as just "EIDE". A term that is constantly redefined is a term that is utterly meaningless. As a result, I can only tell people at this point that if they see a drive labeled as being "EIDE", to keep digging to find out the specifics of the modes and official standards it supports, because "EIDE" by itself doesn't tell you anything (other than the generic interface of the drive, as the terms "IDE" or "ATA" do.) It would be nice if Western Digital would just drop the term entirely, but I doubt this will happen since they have spent so many years promoting it."


courtesy of http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/unstdEIDE.html


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