networking for video editing

[crustie]

does anyone here use networking along with video editing?

i have to setup a LAN of about 6 macs and 5 PC's running windows and i'm trying to figure out the best way to do it.

i am thinking of having a linux server, for printing and file server and internet server.

what is the best way to connect Mac's and PC's without using third party software which slows the system down? (ie: PCmacLan and Dave)

any suggestions would be appreciated!

cheers
-crustie

[klosters64a]

I no expert with networking. My guess is that you'll need a LAN router. If you can use a box that you already have as a LAN router, this sounds good. I don't know if combining the duties of file serving, print serving, Web serving and LAN router into one box is feasible, much less desirable!

I assume that you want to use Linux(at least on the Web Server) for speed and security purposes. Unfortunately, Linux, FreeBSD and OpenBSD are not totally secure. But that's OK, nothing is! And running any MS networking OS is like waving a huge red flag to the world, with "please, oh please wreck my day!" printed on it.

AFAIK, it's more difficult to set up a Linux box for networking than an NT, 2K one. Nonetheless, it certainly appears to be worth the effort!

[rugby]

You could theoretically run an ftp server on a linux box and have users upload and download that way. It would be based on IP so would be fast and easy to use. Download Mandrake 8.1 and set up an ftp server from install and all should be well.

[crustie]

yeah i will certainly use a linux web server, i am writing this now thru one and it's great.

but as for the file sharing. I know i CAN use a FTP server, but that would mean having to open up the ftp server on the PC, then using a ftp client to connect to the ftp server, then transfer, then shut it down.... all this running around! can't there be an easier way to connect windows and macs

dont tell me about pcmaclan or dave, cause they are just as bad! i dont wan't any third party software to do it...

cheers
-crustie

[Oni]

Windows 2000 DHCP server, a router, and AppleTalk.

[crustie]

why a DHCP server? why the router?

[Fink]

I believe that Win NT3.5 and 4.0 both enable you to connect up an appletalk network to a standard PC network with little or no fanfare.

Setting up one with NT3.51 was a breeze, but that was more than a few years ago and things might have changed.

Heck, set up an NT4 or Win2000 server to handle DHCP, Appletalk, file serving, TCP/IP, security and all that jazz with a super cheapie LINUX box to handle firewall and external routing duties. I know it is an extra system, but a 486, 16 Mb RAM and 2 Gb HD will do just fine.

[crustie]

sounds good!
thanks for that...
i'll have to do some reading now to find out how to do all of it.

as long as i know it's possible!

[Shep]

If you are going to use a linux box for router/firewall check out www.coyotelinux.com and www.freesco.com both are cut down versions of linux that run from a floppy freesco can be copied to a hard drive and has a lot more features, coyote works well for basic routing.

[rugby]

Appletalk services will work, although IP is favored for Apple networking. I've been phasing out Appletalk at a school I work at and network traffic has decreased immensely. Of course we're talking about 300 computers roughly so ANY cutdown in traffic is good.

[crustie]

so i take it that Macs can be networked using TCP/IP or Appletalk,

just as Windows can be networked using TCP/IP or NetBEUI or IPX

Therefore, if i setup an entire LAN with both Macs and Windows running TCP/IP, then I wouldn't have to bother with any software to make sure the windows and macs can talk???

i'm getting confused now..
if it is so easy to network across platforms like this, why are there all these third party software programs such as Dave and PCMacLan?

cheers
-crustie

[rugby]

We use PCMacLan here at work to network our windows computers using Appletalk. Specifically for printers and older appleshare servers. Dave is used when NT servers don't run appletalk services.


I've set up 2 OS X servers that are totally cross-platform for networking. I mapped the server volume to my F: drive on my Dell Laptop and had it mounted on the desktop via the chooser on my Mac. No problems at all.

[crustie]

awesome so it's not that hard at all...

why would an NT system need Dave when it has appletalk ability within itself?