How many will buy Intel for their next folding rig?

[stratcatprowlin]

Will you go for the QMD's or buy AMD no matter what?

[maph]

how about both! more folding power is always good :) but i am waiting to see if they fix the no QMD for AMD in V6...I think that would be the biggest deciding factor. Joe's 920 thread is very convincing....but watercooling is out of the question for now.

[Audioaficionado]

I want at least one layer like Joe Camel's. Even on air that thing will put out 1kPPD. There's too much new power coming up for me to stay in the top 50 this year. So if I don't want to get bumped down every other day, I'll have to double my PPD to stay in the 40s.

I'll still build a dual core AMD rig but with the price drops, the 940 pin dual core Opterons are much more affordable and two dual cores is more fun than just one.

[Joe Camel]

my actions speak louder than words...

and they precede me too :)

Intel

PS im thinking of making my next bench (sig-rig) an Intel too :eek:

[TollhouseFrank]

As much as I love AMD's and have been an AMD man for over a decade, I'd hafta make the next rig an Intel. Just for variety, WU mixes, and the ability for mad overclocks.

[pscout]

It depends ... while qmd's are favouring p4's i will consolidate my farm onto fewer p4's.

As the year un folds, I may see a reason to replace some p4's with AMD's.

I am at my limit on # of farm rigs, so it will just be improvements from here on.

Net is that ATM my next purchase will be Intel.

[LandShark]

you all should know my answer!! ;)

however, as Pete said, IF the table turns around, I "might" take a look at the AMDs tho.....

[ghettocomp]

The Poll should also have an option like "I don't care, either way" :D
actually I need to get an Intel board or two to mix in with what I have.

[jonspd]

AMD 4eva

[LandShark]

The Poll should also have an option like "I don't care, either way" :D
actually I need to get an Intel board or two to mix in with what I have.
or more like "I don't care, it's all point/wu dependent for my decision!!" and I bet it will be close to 100% vote on this one!! :D

[ghettocomp]

or more like "I don't care, it's all point/wu dependent for my decision!!" and I bet it will be close to 100% vote on this one!! :D
Yeah!! Like what you said. The competition is fun too!

[Joe Camel]

how could anyone building a farm (by definition) NOT get a 1k+ PPD setup?

ya it seems expensive, but you would need what... 3x AMD's to = PPD...if you can pull off 3 AMD rigs </= the price of 1x 920...go for it.

im assuming the Intel bias in FOLDing (Intel compiler) will @ BEST become = to AMD... i dont see it tipping in AMD's favor... :(

[AlabamaCajun]

AMD no mater what. If I have to buy a Intel, it will be for another reason such as a business decision. For me conviction speaks louder than points.

[Joe Camel]

respect.

[ghettocomp]

Adding Intel to my box rig is a decision for other reasons than folding. There
are certain video processes that seem to run better on Pentium machines
than AMD. Do I need more power? A little more Ram and I can be there easily!

[stratcatprowlin]

The science is more important to me too.No doubt but I just wanted to know what people are going to buy as dedicated folders.Sorry If it looked like I was all about points.Certainly I am not but someone has to fold those QMD's hehe.
Props to the AMD Folders as well as the Intel guys.

[pscout]

I agree with all the viewpoints above.

There could also be a survey category question that distinguishes between a folding only rig vs a rig that only folds in its spare time.

My first response was in thinking about farm only rigs.

If i were a gamer, my sig rig would probably be an AMD. I went intel because (before i even knew about folding) it seemed like the best platform at the time for video.

Have since learned tho, that intels are a lot easier to OC for simpletons like me, but that could just be the experience speaking since i have only OC'ed 1 amd ... and it wasn't a good OC candidate chip/mobo (a7v333/xp1800).

[ihrsetrdr]

I'm filling in my farm with Intels, which was something I always opposed as a dyed in the wool AMD man. I'm hoping to maintain the same or greater level of production, but with fewer machines...electric bill's eatin' me alive! MY AMD fleet is elderly and needs to go; 4 of my duallies are already parted out and sold and 2 more will go on the auction block in the near future. 3 of the six machines were running xp-m's with the L5 mod, and as such needed to run in a Windows enviornment so the multiplier could be adjusted with crystal cpuid. This was counter to my goals, but now I will be able to spend more time learning Linux, and taking advantage of what Linux has to offer.

[Xtreme Barton]

... and it wasn't a good OC candidate chip/mobo (a7v333/xp1800)...


man i hated having a A7V333 !!

[Xtreme Barton]

whats the max someone has ?? as in total pc's that re pretty up to date with cpu's and ram ..

what do you consider alot of machines ?

[pscout]

man i hated having a A7V333 !!

it is actually my daughter's desktop ... extremely quiet and cool with a zalman and in a sonata case.
It does more than what she needs away at school where she also has a centrino laptop and her own little dorm room lan.

She even leaves it on 724 it is so quiet, and helps keep her draughty dorm room warm in the winter months.

[LandShark]

whats the max someone has ?? as in total pc's that re pretty up to date with cpu's and ram ..

what do you consider alot of machines ?
now THIS is a lot!! --> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=1920x1080i%2DHow%3F%3F%3F

[Xtreme Barton]

over 600 cpu's ??????????


omg man !! whats his electricity bill ?

[maph]

over 600 cpu's ??????????


omg man !! whats his electricity bill ?
probably not all that much, those are his former workplace borgs :) nice to have that.

[Audioaficionado]

how could anyone building a farm (by definition) NOT get a 1k+ PPD setup?

ya it seems expensive, but you would need what... 3x AMD's to = PPD...if you can pull off 3 AMD rigs </= the price of 1x 920...go for it.

im assuming the Intel bias in FOLDing (Intel compiler) will @ BEST become = to AMD... i dont see it tipping in AMD's favor... :(I did some comparisons and two P4 rigs cost as much or more than one Presler layer.

Power usage wise I think the Presler will use less that two Prescotts.

The ultimate, I think, would be a diskless, headless cluster of layers with just the CPU, board, memory and some good inexpensive power supplies. You would only need a master server and switch to control it all. That could be a cheap low power consuming uATX board with a Semperon or Celeron.

[ghettocomp]

....The ultimate, I think, would be a diskless, headless cluster of layers with just the CPU, board, memory and some good inexpensive power supplies. You would only need a master server and switch to control it all. That could be a cheap low power consuming uATX board with a Semperon or Celeron.
Yay!! Just what I have done with my wall-O-crap in my server closet. great stuff folds there..

[tenchi86]

Technically AMD since I am buying an old socket A and it will fold. Though my next big rig will be Intel. Something about the OCs and way they run has always made me feel at home.

[muddocktor]

I'm getting ready to take my old dually MP machine out of service and I haven't made my mind up yet on which way to go, especially since the QMD wu's are offline. I guess it depends on how fast the next batch of QMD work comes out. I'm still leaning towards Intel but I don't know if it will be Pressler, Smithfield or Dothan/Sonoma yet. And I do still have a winnie 3000+ sitting there doing nothing, so I might buy a cheap A64 board too. :shrug:

EDIT: So with my answer here, I didn't vote because there is no "I don't know" selection in the poll.

[MadHyeNa]

I would go for 955XE... OC easy at 5.6GHz (even beats FX60 @ 3.4GHz)

But it's really $$$.

[muddocktor]

Hey, if you got the spare bucks then go for it. As for me, this will be a dedicated folding rig, since I just rebuilt my A64 rig with a DC Opti and 2 GB ram and I'm really satisfied with it. When I build a dedicated folding rig I go the bang-for-the-buck route myself. I make decent money but not enough to buy high dollar procs for folding only rigs. If I do go pentium D it will be on a budget, using most probably a 945p chipset mobo and value ddr2 and hunt for a deal on ebay for the proc.

[WarriorII]

I would like to see how the intel rigs do right now without the qmds.

that'll really make my mind up on this matter.

I just built a decent A64 rig, & it's slow on the qmds.

Lemme see how my borqs do in the meantime. w/o qmds.

[pscout]

I am expecting my production to drop by 50% or more :eek: :temper:

A few decent wu's, but taking a day to produce a 56 ptr when it was under a day to do 450 .....

[Audioaficionado]

I'm expecting to drop below 800PPD Orange and turn Green :(

[LandShark]

I forsee some folder's ppd will drop as much as 2/3 IF they all are Intel P4s!! :eh?: :shrug: :bang head

[Oric]

Hey work units is work units they all got to be done!!! :cool:

Lets hurry and crunch these so they are done and gone so they can feed us biguns again. :burn:

[Voodoo Rufus]

I'm eyeing the Conroe and comparing it to the X2. Considering that Intel dual cores are cheaper, my next and primary machine just may end up Intel. I value OCing and gaming power a bit more over my FAH power, but 1000PPD is so mighty tempting.

200PPD best case on my XP-M just don't cut it.

[pscout]

I forsee some folder's ppd will drop as much as 2/3 IF they all are Intel P4s!! :eh?: :shrug: :bang head

That is me ... all p4's.

Today is the first day with no qmd's left to turn in ... so far it is looking like about a 50% drop but we'll have to see how many more 56 point wu's i still have left to turn in today. :rolleyes:

Out of 33 WU's in progress atm 13 of them are 56 ptrs.

And i love the elapsed time on these wu's ... all but 2 of my p4's would finish a qmd or more in one day ... some of the 100+ ptrs take well over a day to crunch.

Now i understand why farmers need government subsidies.

[Misfit138]

AMD forever...or until Intel's suddenly become cheaper and better than AMD's?

Nah, AMD forever.

[jcw122]

I wouldn't mind either, but I prefer AMD anyway.

[electrorcamd]

I'll probably stick with AMD, but I have been thinking of building a cheap Intel system. It probably won't happen anytime soon though.

[walaka7]

For the first time since i started folding Im gonna say that if i can afford it, Im gonna go AMD as I want a dual core dual proc setup for my next rendering rig. If i gotta go on the cheap then it will prolly be a dothan or poss yonah if/when it comes out. I dont think I wanna go Pent-D due to heat issues and the extra juice needed to run it. The dothans are the "hybrid cars" of folding :D