2-2-2-8 timing memory

[andyisc00l]

looking for a great 2-2-2-8 3200 ddr ram, anyone know good kind>

[Reefa_Madness]

These days your best bet with 2-2-2-5 rated memory is TCCD from one of the major players, such as OCZ, G.Skill or Patriot, to name a few.

Alternatively there is old skool Winbond BH-5 to be found in the Classifieds.

TCCD runs tight timings at speeds up to 210-220, then scales up to 300 and beyond on A64 rigs with more relaxed timings, ranging from 2.5-3-3-7 to 3-4-4-8 while doing this with only moderate voltage requirements (2.7v - 2.9v).

Winbond, on the other hand will keep the tight up and beyond 265-275MHz, but will require 3.4v-3.7v to hit those speeds.

You could also go with some of the newer UTT "BH-5" which is similar to the old skool stuff, but with questionable durability (UTT = UnTesTed by the manufacturer). OCZ and others still have some of this available. Check the DDR ram list sticky for modules with these chips if you are interested.

[Know Nuttin]

In addition to the above, the Crucial Ballistix is a good option.

[RedDragonXXX]

You should be able to find some OCZ Gold GX which are UTT BH's and should scale pretty nicely with 2-2-2 timings provided that you feed them a decent amount of Vdimm.

Good Luck :thup:

[Reefa_Madness]

In addition to the above, the Crucial Ballistix is a good option.

Good point. I shouldn't have left those out. These also happen to be well priced these days (like all DDR1 for that matter).

[andyisc00l]

Can someone explain vdimm to me??

[Reefa_Madness]

In motherboards with tweaking options, one of the variables that can be altered is the amount of voltage that can be applied to the memory (vdimm). Most of the memory available today uses chips manufactured by just a few companies. Each of these has different "personalities", if you would. Some respond/scale higher with increased voltages (Winbond BH-5/UTT), some will scale much higher with relaxed memory timings and no significant voltage increases (Samsung TCCD and Hynix DT-D5), while some require both (moderate) increase in voltages and (slighty) relaxed memory timings to achieve higher clocks (Crucial Ballistix with Micron "G" die).

[jiggamanjb]

Can someone explain vdimm to me??

Voltage that you put through the memory.


What board are you putting these in?

[andyisc00l]

I need a good 462 overclock board I do'nt know what to get, I heard the lan party one was good I might get that. And what ram should I get and what should i set vdimm for that type

[Sir. BOBSONATOR]

Either the Ultra-D or the Expert.

[Know Nuttin]

Either the Ultra-D or the Expert.

I don't believe DFI makes those in S462 format.

The DFI Lanparty/Infinity Socket A boards are good. Expensive though, and I don't think it is worth going that route. You can probably get into a S754 and DFI Infinity board for just a tad more, that would make more sense to me. Realize that S754 is also pretty much dead.

What components do you have now?

[Reefa_Madness]

I like socket A/462...they are fun because of the unlocked multis. Do you have a golden XP chip that you are wanting to use? If so, then the DFI or an Abit NF7 would be the boards of choice. The DFI will generally hit higer FSB and has more voltage options unmodded (there are plenty of mods available for both boards), but will be using the CPC setting of 2 to get there if running 2x512MB sticks. Which of those two boards works better has been a point of discussion for quite a while...it really depends on how they match up with the rest of your gear.

With the DFI you could run TCCD ram, keeping timings fairly tight and still hit 250 and beyond if you get a good mobo. The NF7, unmodded, will top out in the 220-235 range and could utilize original Winbond BH-5 based ram (not UTT). It really is a toss up between those two...boils down to how you want to run them.

However, if you don't have any of the major components then, in my opinion, S939 would be a better choice over either S462 or S754 because it is better performance and simply not outdated the minute you get it.

Did I mention that I like Socket A???

[andyisc00l]

I own barton2800...will be clocking 1.9vcore@2550mhz 425 fsb...I assume so at least...and the 2-2-2-8 ram, ti4600 goldensample gainward, and I need a psu I have a few suggestions though..so S939 eh?? I'll check it out, are these 3 gb/s sata? would be awesome

oh and I just purchased a 0429 I think tmpw iqyha barton 2600 2ghz 1.45w...gonna be a sweeeeet ride and with an sp97...my soul won't rest til I find one, it will be ownage from the underdog might get a new video card and gpu cooler...

anyways I'm looking for THE best oc'ing board as I'm interested in that since I want this to last a lonnng time...I figure that 2600 will own all, and I might try to get a 2500+ vcore 1.35 instead of 1.45...but I think they're hard to find, far and near...oh well.

I'd like to be running 425-435 processor with a fan on ram if I need seious overlcocking i have to research that, not too familiar with that

[ReD.SkY]

OCZ platinum Revision 2

[Mdogs444]

Cant go wrong w/ Crucial Ballistix 1gb kit for about $110 shipped. They run run 2-2-2-x @ DDR400+ and even up to DDR600+ @ 3-4-4-x

[jiggamanjb]

I've had no problems with my RAM ( see sig )

As for the board, NF7 or the DFI is where you want to be.

With the DFI you could run TCCD ram, keeping timings fairly tight and still hit 250 and beyond if you get a good mobo. The NF7, unmodded, will top out in the 220-235 range and could utilize original Winbond BH-5 based ram (not UTT). It really is a toss up between those two...boils down to how you want to run them.

From what I know of the 2 boards, DFI - tons of OC'ing options, no as stable. NF7 - voltage options limited without mods, more stable. I love my NF7. :)

[andyisc00l]

I think i was kinda lookin at that ram the other day...and asus deluxe e version is a no?? Between dfi and nf7 where are you at for this setup...

and Im goin for pure brute speed, I hear this speicifc chip the guy was using was exccelkent for oc'ing, I can probably reach 2600+@400...or as high as it can go, maybe it can go to 450, who knows
mobile 2600barton
maybe your ocz ram
big typhoon
either ge4ti4600 or 9800proXT allinwonder

[jiggamanjb]

My knowledge of Asus is limited so I wouldn't be the one to ask on that.

Pure speed... go with DFI. You should be able to push the FSB to 240ish or higher I would think.

[andyisc00l]

What do you mean the NF7 is more "stable"...I don't understand? One oc's faster but the other doesn't do what, crash? or what

[jiggamanjb]

Don't hold me to this, cause I'm not 100% sure on it


I believe the problem with the dFI's were that since you can OC them so much they weren't stable, crashes, corruption, and what not. I also think the they are as well made as the NF7, ex. crashed and corruption more often.

I can't find that DFI anywhere. Did a quick search on Ebay on found a couple though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/DFI-LanParty-NFII-Ultra-B-Motherboard-AMD-Socket-A_W0QQitemZ6845693836QQcategoryZ99238QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


found a quote you might like

For a no overclocking, "plug and pray" motherboard, my advice is to avoid the DFI nForce2 motherboards like the plague.

They suffer frequent BIOS corruptions, and use shoddy Vcore voltage regulation circuitry. Extensive memory tweaking is pretty much a given just to get these boards on their feet and running with stability. For overclocking however, they are exceptional, with extremely rich memory overclocking features in the BIOS (Namely, BIOS-accessable Alpha Timings, and DriveStrength/SkewRate settings), a very well implemented chipset that almost always makes it to ~240 MHz on the FSB before the AGP controller craps out, and most importantly, a +5VDC VDIMM feed that gets you to 3.3V unmodifed, and as high as you want after a voltmod.

The ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe is the exact reverse, a poor overclocking motherboard with inferior voltage options, a poorly done BIOS for overclocking, only the most basic of tweaking via the BIOS, and a chipset-implementation that rarely clears ~220 MHz on the FSB. At the same time, the A7N8X-Deluxe has amazing onboard sound, is stable as a rock with stock settings, delivers consistant voltages, and has two LAN ports.

The A7N8X-Deluxe also suffers from BIOS corruption however (almost always as a result of overclocking though) - my old A7N8X-Deluxe Rev. 2 needed a BIOS hotflash on a bi-weekly basis .


The DFI LP'B'/Infinity is an excellent overclocking-feature-rich board, the A7N8X-Deluxe is an excellent everyday-feature-rich board. I should mention that the NF7-S is the happy middleman that is excellent for overclocking after some voltmods and a modified BIOS, and excellent for day-to-day use at stock.

I've owned all three, and ended up keeping my NF7-S untill the end of it all, while the other two boards eventually made their way into the classifieds for various reasons.


I guess to summarize: for your current purposes the A7N8X-Deluxe is the best choice even if it costs more.