What other tweaks can i use

[oc jason]

right now im at 10x153 turbo settings,. cas2 4 bank interleave and 1tcommand rate. 200/465, vsync off, set to best performance

it is same as before but i had to reinstall OS, before reinstall it was a 66FPS in beginning of Game 1 3dmark2k1 now its 51FPS instead!!! That is a big difference, and i know its set exactly the same cause i wrote my settings down, becuase those were the max that i could run stable, so what am i missing-Windows 2000

same drivers 21.85 det 4's and VIA 4.35v finals??

[Zuck Gou :)]

Did you play with the 3dMark settings ever? Or just use default?

[Pinky]

I remember that the order of driver installation played a role in setting up my system with an nvidia card and w2k...

VIA drivers, then Directx, then video.

[oc jason]

got it back up to 67 FPS to start test, yesi dont use default its 800x600 32bit, 32 bit not compressed, and that is about it 5299 3dmarks in 2001

[o770]

Originally posted by Pinky
VIA drivers, then Directx, then video.

how is that? can u explain it a bit more - how much difference made it? i always take care about the order i install all the drivers and softwares.. anyway can someone explain why directx before the video card drivers?

[Violator]

Well many video drivers now require DirectX 8 for example, therefore unless you're using XP you'd need to update the DX version you have already installed with Windows.

Oh and [OC] Jason, why do you run 3dMark in 800x600, people generally only regard benchmarks at default setting to be worth anything. Unless it's just personal preference I guess.

[oc jason]

i run at 800x600 because that is what i play games at, so i want the most possieble FPS at theat resolustion. I can care less what others think due to my benchmark res, i mean i want it to look good for what i do, and i plat at 800x600 so that is the res that i tweak and bench for. Just my personal preferance

[Pinky]

Originally posted by oTTO


how is that? can u explain it a bit more - how much difference made it? i always take care about the order i install all the drivers and softwares.. anyway can someone explain why directx before the video card drivers?

It's more experiential than factual.

If I really knew the programming how's and why's I'd probably be making twice my salary with IBM, Novel, or Microsoft :p.

[o770]

Originally posted by Pinky


It's more experiential than factual.

If I really knew the programming how's and why's I'd probably be making twice my salary with IBM, Novel, or Microsoft :p.

ok. but do u know how much increase in performance u got from doing that?

[Pinky]

Originally posted by oTTO


ok. but do u know how much increase in performance u got from doing that?

My theory is this:

1 - VIA drivers are needed anyway for system performance and the AGP driver update/setup as turbo, etc.

2 - Directx works with some of the VIA drivers and is used by the video card, so it seems fair to installing them AFTER the VIA drivers but before the video.

3 - Video drivers utilize both the above drivers, so installing them last allows windows to learn how to get them playing nice together...

This isn't necessarily a performance modification, but I found that during installations if I loaded directx last, or video drivers first, the performance would falter. This was especially true with an older OS, like 95/98/NT 4.0 . Again, experiential and not very scientific (that's how most of us tweakers get by :)).

You, on the other hand Otto, love to know the how's and why which is why I adore reading some of your posts... you typically ask the questions I don't even think to... I just want my PC to run efficiently and care little as to why (since in 2 years it will all be old technology anyway ;)).

[o770]

Originally posted above by Pinky


ok. i made that yesterday.
used to let GART to be installed after directx and video driver: vid > directx8 > gart - when using w2k pro. your way is a lot more logical despite the performance kept the same.