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Well, after numerous daily requests for links, and "How To's" on Volt Modding your mobo's, I have compiled a list of all of them that I have.
If anyone wants to add more, not listed here, please do. :)
If you figure out a new one that you don't see for some new piece of hardware, please add it to the list :)
All suggestions and experiences are welcome with open arms!
And, Keep-Em-Coming!
Here we go...........
Shuttle AK31 Rev 2 or 3.1 that I wrote Here (http://www.overclockers.com/tips704/)
Shuttle Ak31 VMem, VIO, VCore Here. (http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/Shuttle/AK3x/)
Shuttle AK35GTR/ AK31 VIO, VMem, Volt Mod, 5V Mod Here. (http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/Shuttle/AK3x/)
Epox 8KHA+Here (http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html?/html/workshop/enmic_8tcx_plus_ep8kha_vcore.html), and Here. (http://www.ocmodshop.com/vmod.asp)
IWill KK266 Here (http://www.overclockers.com/tips445/)
Abit - KR7A + KG7 Vcore, Vmem, Vio mods Here (http://forums.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49058)
Gigabyte 7DXR Here (http://www.amdmb.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56261)
Gigabyte GA-7VRXP at the bottom of the page Here. (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=&postid=663428&t=7533#post663428)
Asus A7A/A7M 266 Here (http://www.sicom.fi/~jarmo/voltagemods/voltage_mods.htm)
Asus A7V266-E Here. (http://translate.google.com/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=de%7Cen&u=http://www.teccentral.de/overclocking/index.php/zeige/tuning_vcore/asus_a7v266-e/index/anzeigen/)
You will find all of the Mods Below,Here (http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html?/html/workshop/workshop.html):
Abit KT7 and KT7A series to 2,07 Volt and more
AOpen AK73 Pro (A) to 2,15 Volt and more
Asus A7V Vcore to 2,13 Volt (max. 2,45 Volt)
Vcore, VIO and VAGP solder guide for ENMIC 8KAX+
ENMIC 8TCX+ to 2,06 Volt and more
ENMIC (NMC) 8TTX+ to 2,08 Volt and more
Vcore, VIO and VAGP solder guide for Epox 8K7A
EPOX 8KHA to 2,06 Volt and more
EPOX 8KTA3 to 2,06 Volt and more
EPOX 8KTA3+ to 2,08 Volt and more
MSI K7T Pro/Pro 2-A to 2,07 Volt (max. 2,97 V)
MSI K7T Turbo to 2,15 Volt and more
MSI KT3 Ultra by freshy98 here (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=&postid=885143#post885143).
You will find all of the mods below,Here (http://www.tweakhardware.com/):
EPoX BX6-SE
Abit KT7
ASUS A7V
MSI K7T Pro
An you will find the ones below, here (http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/)
Shuttle AK31/35GTR
EPoX 8KHA Series
Leadtek 7350KDA
Shuttle AK31
Tyan Tiger MP (S2460)
ASUS A7M & A7A266
IWill KK266 Series
MSI K7T Pro/Pro2/A
ASUS A7V/A7V133
ABIT KT7/KT7A
EPoX 8KTA3
EPoX 7KXA
EPoX BX6-SE
You will find the ones below here, (http://www.teccentral.de/overclocking/index.php/zeige/tuning_vcore/abit_kx7-333/index/anzeigen/index.php) (In German)
Abit KX7-333R
Abit-AT-7
Abit KT7
Epox EP-4BDA2+
Epox 8KTA2
Asus P4T-E
MSI K7T266 Pro2 /RU
Epox 8KHA/+
Asus A7V266-E
Asus A7V / A7V133
Abit KR7A / KG7
MSI KT4VL & KT4 Ultra here. (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=&postid=1483415#post1483415)
I have included some pictures of the "Pomona Grabber", (I like the name...:eek: ) used in some of these mods.
One of our members, Larry Quinn sells pre-made VMod kits with the grabber, the correct pot, and a spade connector for $10.00, delivered. you can reach Larry by email here: mailto:larryquinn@cox.net or by PM here. (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/private.php?s=&action=newmessage&userid=8703)
Enjoy!
:D
Doc
I use one similiar to that clip, it is a Precision Micro-Clip part#278-017 from radio shack cost 4.99. 4clips with wire attached between them so you can make 4 connectors out of them. It has a L-shaped end rather than pincher but they do they same job.
Ya, I have some of those, but I've found that if you move them accidently, they can come off, or short out the leg next to it.
These little things are really tenacious. The harder you pull on em, the tighter they grip.
Trust me, I found out the hard way! :eek:
Doctor
tacobell
11-02-01, 04:56 PM
Doctor, can you send some pics of your vmod?
Well, tacobell, I'm sorry to say that due to the complexity of my VapoChill case, it would be very difficult for me to do that right now.
This thing is refrigerated, with some serious hardware preventing me from getting my camera near the parts that need to be photographed. I wrote a "How To" here (http://www.overclockers.com/tips704/), that's pretty self explanatory.
If there is anything you don't understand from the article, or any questions you have about doing it, please post them here.
I'm always willing to listen, and help :)
Doctor
Doctor,
Does it matter that what the red and black wire connect to the pins?
Is there a Standard?
First of all, thanks for the great pics. I wanted to see what the clips looked like first hand. I can't wait till I get mine. It's going to be so much easier.:)
FWIW, I prefer a soldered connection, especially if the computer needs to be transported.
Here are my instructions for boards that use the Intersil HIP6301.
K7G specifics:
You may want to use a 100k pot between Pin 7 and ground. This will allow you to return the board to stock voltage. A 47k pot will cause the board to boot at around 2.0 volts.
The mod is the same as the KT7 series except for the change in trimmer value for Pin 7. With 47k between ground and Pin 7, the board will boot at about 2 volts. Using a 100k trimmer allows the board to boot at normal voltage and obviously makes it possible to reverse the mod by dialing the Pin 7 and Pin 10 trimmers back to full resistance.
KT7 series, KK266, etc:
Solder wires to Pin 7 and Pin 10 of the IC that controls the voltage to the CPU. Put a 47k trimmer (49 cents at Radio Shack part # 271-283) between Pin 10 and ground. Put a 100k trimmer (271-284) between Pin 7 and ground. You can add a 1k trimmer (271-280) in series with the 100k trimmer if you would like to make it easier to fine tune the voltage. Use a spade lug or loop under a motherboard mounting screw for your ground connection. For convenience I suggest you mount the trimmers on a piece of breadboard and secure it to your motherboard tray with Velcro.
Pin 7 controls the voltage, Pin 10 controls maximum voltage threshold. Turn the trimmers to full resistance boot your PC and start VIA Hardware Monitor. Set the polling interval to 2 seconds and slowly dial up the Pin 7 trimmer until the screen blanks. Your PC will probably reboot when the screen blanks. Note the voltage and back it off a tad while the computer reboots. Then dial up the Pin 10 trimmer until your screen blanks and back it off a tad. Go back into VIA Hardware Monitor and dial the Pin 7 trimmer up to 2.3 volts. You may be able to go higher but I don’t recommend it.
Caution this will stress your cooling. Be careful or your CPU could end up a crispy critter. I also suggest buying a third hand device from Radio Shack to hold a pre-tinned wire to the IC leg while you solder. The magnifying glass on the third had will come in handy too. Get in and out fast so you don’t toast the IC. Lay off the caffeine and if you are of age, have a beer a half hour before soldering to steady your hands.
Be sure to tie your wires down to the board. A dollop of five minute epoxy works well for this. After doing several boards, I finally screwed one up. The mod went fine but I snagged the wire to Pin 10 on the end of my workbench and ripped the IC pin right off the board.
Note the pic of the solder points is of a KT7 series board.
Solder Points Pic (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1551335&a=11768501&p=42534658)
Thanks Colin. I was going to pm you to find this volt mod again. Can you run both of your grounds from pin 7 and 10 to the same place?
Yep, I tie the two pots to one ground with a spade lug or loop mounted under a motherboard mounting screw.
Originally posted by Diu
Doctor,
Does it matter that what the red and black wire connect to the pins?
Is there a Standard?
Diu,
I'm not sure that I understand your question?
:confused:
Doctor
tacobell
11-03-01, 08:40 AM
I was wondering how the vmod would look like with this clips.. i didn´t understand how they work very well..
I´ll try to find this clips here in brazil...
Please look at the second picture I posted above.
Doctor
tacobell
11-03-01, 10:02 AM
How about the wires? and i´ll need two of this grabbers for de vmod right?
Originally posted by tacobell
How about the wires? and i´ll need two of this grabbers for de vmod right?
You will only need one. It will clip onto the leg of the IC chip, and you will attach a wire to it, that will go to the variable resistor/potentiometer.
I hope this helps you out,
Doctor
Originally posted by Colin
FWIW, I prefer a soldered connection, especially if the computer needs to be transported.
Hi Colin,
I understand where your coming from, with the soldered connections. They are certainly more permanent, however, it is PERMANENT.
By using these "Grabbers", it allows you to try your mod, and if your not happy with it, or would like to sell your un-modded mobo somtime in the future, you can just remove em, and go back to stock.
As well, there is absolutly no chance of screwing up your mobo. I have read too many horror storys about people destroying their mobo by too much heat, or accidently snagging the wire on the workbench, and pulling the leg off.
These clips I'm talking about are very tenacious, and short of dropping your puter out of a moving car, they won't fall off, or short out.
If you care to PM me for my address, I will be happy to send you a couple for your consideration.
Lemme no...........
:)
Doctor
tacobell
11-03-01, 10:50 AM
So, in a7v133 i would use the clip to pinch the Voltage Regulator leg, solder a wire to the clip and attach the wire to a resistor?
Or i would have to attach another wire to the resistor and solder that wire to the second mark?
I´m trying to follow this vmod guide here (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/asus_a7v_vcore.html).
Sorry for all the questions and thanks for the answers. :)
It's my understanding from the link above, that you need to put a 1/4W, 30k resistor between the FB/pin 2, and the SMD resistor on the mobo. If you wanted to do it with clips, you would need 2, with the 30K resistor between them.
Dcotor
tacobell
11-03-01, 11:46 AM
thanx.. now i understood :)
i forgot to mention earlier that i use an a7v133
Originally posted by Doctor
Hi Colin,
I understand where your coming from, with the soldered connections. They are certainly more permanent, however, it is PERMANENT.
By using these "Grabbers", it allows you to try your mod, and if your not happy with it, or would like to sell your un-modded mobo somtime in the future, you can just remove em, and go back to stock.
As well, there is absolutly no chance of screwing up your mobo. I have read too many horror storys about people destroying their mobo by too much heat, or accidently snagging the wire on the workbench, and pulling the leg off.
These clips I'm talking about are very tenacious, and short of dropping your puter out of a moving car, they won't fall off, or short out.
If you care to PM me for my address, I will be happy to send you a couple for your consideration.
Lemme no...........
:)
Doctor
Thanks Doc but I think I will just buy some. I have to do a volt mod for one of the guys at a local computer store. I think I will try the clips on this one. I believe this fellow may prefer them to soldered connections.
As for selling my old boards, nah, got a nice pile of them right now! :D
i know that raise the core can make the processor satable
but watch out don.t go too high it can kill your mobo
remember that ok:mad: :mad:
Originally posted by Colin
As for selling my old boards, nah, got a nice pile of them right now! :D
LOL!
I think you should give some of those to the homeless......
:D
Doctor
Christoph
11-04-01, 09:54 AM
There's a link to an A7M voltage mod, but all it is is a couple of picctures. Does anybody know of some more explicit intructions?
More links. (http://hwfaq.overclockersonline.com/dbase.php?catid=12)
Edit: Scratch that. The instructions under the pics, while terse, seem adequate. Anyone done the A7M266 voltage mod? Looks like it'd spank with a little bong cooling.
Here are some more:
http://www.athlonoc.com/voltagemod1.php
Thanx guy's, keep em comm'in
:)
Doctor
What is a volltage mod for, anyway? I mean, I have a shuttle AK31v2 and it lets you change the chip and ram voltages BIOS. Is there something I'm missing here?
Yes, we have found that by raising the Vcore voltage to 2.0v, and somtimes higher, you can overclock higher, and, or get more stability at higher clock speeds.
The Shuttle, and most all other mobo's allow you to set the Vcore higher in the bios, but no matter what how high you set it, it won't go beyond 1.85v.
To get beyond this limitation, you need to tweak your boards voltage controller into thinking it's not putting out enough voltage, so it raises it to your desired level.
I hope this helps you understand our maddness............
Doctor
wild_andy_c
11-05-01, 09:49 AM
Those clips are cheatin' gear !!!!
I've soldered every one of mine to the board and never failed - the bigger and badder the soldering iron the better.
Originally posted by wild_andy_c
Those clips are cheatin' gear !!!!
I've soldered every one of mine to the board and never failed - the bigger and badder the soldering iron the better.
LOL!
Hell, just use a blowtorch! :mad:
Doctor
wild_andy_c
11-05-01, 10:41 AM
It sure would do my nerves better if I used one of those clips to attack leg 2 of the CS5301 or 5303 !!!
Next time ............
Originally posted by wild_andy_c
It sure would do my nerves better if I used one of those clips to attack leg 2 of the CS5301 or 5303 !!!
Next time ............
I've got an employee going to London, Doncaster, Manchester, and High Wycombe next month if you have a hard time finding them on the "other side of the pond".........
:)
Doctor
tacobell
11-06-01, 04:18 PM
Any coming to Brazil? :D
Can´t find any similar clip here.
Not Brazil :(
Venezuela, next month............
:cool:
Doctor
urbanski
11-06-01, 06:12 PM
Kind of a bump.
I just got back from Radio Shack, and that part 278-017 for us non-solderers, well, I got a 278-016A, Precision Mini-clip test jumpers link (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F008%5F006%5F002%5F000&product%5Fid=278%2D016)
Doctor, I know you were talking about those other clips, how tenacious they are. Let me tell you, these clips are actual HOOKS, not an L, and the hook retracts back into plastic insulation. They are strong, and you get 2 for $5, each with 20 inches of wire!
I shall fill you in on how they work.
Ya, they look cool!
Please let us know how they work, or even a picture of the hooked end would be GR8!
You can't imagine how much mail I'm getting now for the other ones...:eek:...
If those work, I will include a link to them at the top.
Thank 4 the heads up :)
Doctor
tacobell
11-07-01, 04:58 PM
Nice, does Radio Shack ship to other countries?
urbanski
11-07-01, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by tacobell
Nice, does Radio Shack ship to other countries? Actually, no, not nice. I tried those clips out. They are WAAAAY to big for the job, despite being the smallest they sell! I couldn't get the clip to go around the pin, and if I had, the clip was so wide it would have touched the adjacent pins.
oh well, gonna solder now!
:cool:
Can anyone give me a list of equiment that needed to use the clip to do the Voltage mod??
Thanks
Originally posted by urbanski
Actually, no, not nice. I tried those clips out. They are WAAAAY to big for the job, despite being the smallest they sell! I couldn't get the clip to go around the pin, and if I had, the clip was so wide it would have touched the adjacent pins.
oh well, gonna solder now!
:cool:
Why solder, when you can use the clips that Doctor recommended!:)
Originally posted by Diu
Can anyone give me a list of equiment that needed to use the clip to do the Voltage mod??
Thanks
It may differ from board to board, but for my KT7A: You know what, just look at colin's post in this thread. That's what I'm using, except I using two 47k trimmers!
Originally posted by Diu
Can anyone give me a list of equiment that needed to use the clip to do the Voltage mod??
Thanks
Diu,
Read the volt mod link for your mobo at the top of ths thread.
:)
Doctor
Originally posted by urbanski
Actually, no, not nice. I tried those clips out. They are WAAAAY to big for the job, despite being the smallest they sell! I couldn't get the clip to go around the pin, and if I had, the clip was so wide it would have touched the adjacent pins.
oh well, gonna solder now!
:cool:
At my local Radio Shack, I came across the Precision Micro-Clip Test Jumpers! They worked out great!:)
That's awesome, Jaws!
Could you post a picture of it?
TIA,
Doctor
Originally posted by JAWS
At my local Radio Shack, I came across the Precision Micro-Clip Test Jumpers! They worked out great!:)
I got those as well and though I don't have the motherboard in yet I did test it out on a motherboard with a similar module and it fits great.
I do have a question though. I'm doing the voltmod for the 8KHA+ and I got the 220K 1/4 watt resistor but what % tolerance should I have gotten? I bought the 5% but there were also 10% and 20% tolerance resistors. I figured on the 5% since I can always decrease the total I get but I don't want to boot up to too much votage. The part number I got from Radio Shack is 271-1350 if that helps...thanks.
By the way, as far as what these clips look like in comparison to the ones urbanski tried, they are identical...only much, much smaller. I saw the ones he tried and they were quite a bit bigger than these. Almost 2-to-1 in size.
Genoide
11-12-01, 06:09 PM
Hey DOC How about the KG7 RAID how much Voltage can the puppy take?
Originally posted by Jon
I got those as well and though I don't have the motherboard in yet I did test it out on a motherboard with a similar module and it fits great.
I do have a question though. I'm doing the voltmod for the 8KHA+ and I got the 220K 1/4 watt resistor but what % tolerance should I have gotten? I bought the 5% but there were also 10% and 20% tolerance resistors. I figured on the 5% since I can always decrease the total I get but I don't want to boot up to too much votage. The part number I got from Radio Shack is 271-1350 if that helps...thanks.
By the way, as far as what these clips look like in comparison to the ones urbanski tried, they are identical...only much, much smaller. I saw the ones he tried and they were quite a bit bigger than these. Almost 2-to-1 in size.
When I went to Radio Shack to get a trimmer, thats when I noticed the Precision Micro-Clip Test Jumpers. These were so much smaller the the above mentioned. (Micro) Plus, I asked the Manager if it was small enough to clip onto a IC chip leg. He said yes, so I bought them.
Jon, as for the resistors go, on my last KT7A, I bought 5K,10K,and 22k Ohm and they were the 1/4 with 5% tolerance. I know because I'm looking at the packaging. I think the lower the resistor number, the higher the voltage turns out. Don't quote me though! I used the 22k on my old board. This was done before I knew about the the trimmers. I haven't read the volt mod procedure concerning the 8KHA+, so I don't know if it's similar or not to the Abit boards.
Well, I just went by the mod listed at the top of the thread and it listed using a 1/4 watt 220k resistor for an immediate 0.2V increase...they just made no mention of what tolerance it should be so I figure less would be better.
As far as using the really low resistors like the 5, 10 and 22k...I don't know. I'm just going by what the directions tell me. I've never had to do a volt mod before so all this is new to me. Only reason I got the clips was because it was overly easy to do and I don't really like the idea of soldering since it's irreversible.
Probably won't get the board and stuff in til Thursday so I'll see how it all works out then...in the meantime, I'll just wait...
Originally posted by Jon
Well, I just went by the mod listed at the top of the thread and it listed using a 1/4 watt 220k resistor for an immediate 0.2V increase...they just made no mention of what tolerance it should be so I figure less would be better.
As far as using the really low resistors like the 5, 10 and 22k...I don't know. I'm just going by what the directions tell me. I've never had to do a volt mod before so all this is new to me. Only reason I got the clips was because it was overly easy to do and I don't really like the idea of soldering since it's irreversible.
Probably won't get the board and stuff in til Thursday so I'll see how it all works out then...in the meantime, I'll just wait...
I agree with you 100%. I would've never soldered my first board, if I knew about the clips! SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier!
JAWS,
Where did you buy those clip?
From Radio Shack??
Can you give me the part number plz...
Thanks.
Originally posted by Diu
JAWS,
Where did you buy those clip?
From Radio Shack??
Can you give me the part number plz...
Thanks.
Sure Thing! Part# is 278-017! Make sure they say MICRO-CLIP! Doctor found some good ones too!
Originally posted by JAWS
Sure Thing! Part# is 278-017! Make sure they say MICRO-CLIP! Doctor found some good ones too!
Oh, ok...
Thx
Ultrajack
11-13-01, 10:00 PM
Hey Doctor........
Tryin to find out if the voltage mod will work on an MSI K7T 266 Pro2 ........
Originally posted by Ultrajack
Hey Doctor........
Tryin to find out if the voltage mod will work on an MSI K7T 266 Pro2 ........
First of all, Welcome to the Forums Ultrajack!
The volt mod you need is listed at the top of this thread, but beacuse I'm a nice guy, and tell you that you can find one here (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/msi_k7tpro2a_vcore.html), and here (http://www.tweakhardware.com/guide/k7tpro-voltage/), and here (http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/k7tpro/).
Ya all come back now, Ya hear!
:)
Doctor
urbanski
11-14-01, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by JAWS
Sure Thing! Part# is 278-017! Make sure they say MICRO-CLIP! Doctor found some good ones too! Aw shucks. Now I have to try this mod again! I got the wrong clips!
Off to RS again.
urbanski
11-14-01, 08:30 AM
OK, one more time.....8KHA+, which one is pin #2?
With the CS5301 lettering facing me, it is the second from the left on the bottom row?
thanks :)
Originally posted by urbanski
OK, one more time.....8KHA+, which one is pin #2?
With the CS5301 lettering facing me, it is the second from the left on the bottom row?
thanks :)
Yes, from what I can see, its the bottom row, left.........
urbanski
11-14-01, 04:49 PM
The 278-017 clips, to me, look the same size as the ones I bought...too big.
So before I go with Doctor's clips, I have this idea...
My mod with one linear 220KOhm resistor didn't work, no POST, FF code. I read on another forum to try to increase the resistence to fix this. So I'm going to try 2 220K in series...good or bad idea??
urb
The idea behind these mods are to fool the voltage controller into thinking its not putting out enough voltage. By giving it a really high resistance, like you suggest, may not do anything. It's by lowering the resistance, that you fool it into thinking its not providing the correct voltage.
If anything, I suggest using a pot, rather than a fixed resistance, if the mod youre going by calls for one.
If you could give me a link to the other post you read, and the mod your using, I can give you a much more educated reply.
Here,
Doctor
Originally posted by urbanski
The 278-017 clips, to me, look the same size as the ones I bought...too big.
So before I go with Doctor's clips, I have this idea...
My mod with one linear 220KOhm resistor didn't work, no POST, FF code. I read on another forum to try to increase the resistence to fix this. So I'm going to try 2 220K in series...good or bad idea??
urb
so.... none of those clip from radio shack works?!?
:mad:
Some say yes. some say no.
I don't even need any, but ordered 5 of em, yesterday just to see.
Stay tuned.............
Doctor
Originally posted by Diu
so.... none of those clip from radio shack works?!?
:mad:
The clip is used only to be a substitute for soldering. Inserting a trimmer or pot. between the pin and ground to change the voltage. Never a fixed resistor.
urbanski
11-15-01, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Doctor
The idea behind these mods are to fool the voltage controller into thinking its not putting out enough voltage. By giving it a really high resistance, like you suggest, may not do anything. It's by lowering the resistance, that you fool it into thinking its not providing the correct voltage.
If anything, I suggest using a pot, rather than a fixed resistance, if the mod youre going by calls for one.
If you could give me a link to the other post you read, and the mod your using, I can give you a much more educated reply.
Here,
Doctor
Sure, right here (http://www.amdmb.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70246) This guy WTobin had my exact same problem. He's using 4 100K pots in series and it works for him.
JAWS, I understand....no simple resistors! I'm going to get 4 of these pots, if you all think that makes sense. I gotta buy those jaw clippers, though, in order to experiment with how much resistence. Oh well, what's 20 more bucks. I want 2 volts!
urbanski
11-15-01, 09:20 AM
yeah. I sent the guy a PM about it. I don't even know how to wire pots in series, so I'll see what he says.
Thanks Doctor for your pomona clips. It was much easier using these clips than the Radio Shack micro clips. Set my core max to 2.05 v. Using only 1.94 v now. xp1600 1400 @ 1650.
You're very welcome!
Congratulations,
Doctor
Originally posted by JAWS
Sure Thing! Part# is 278-017! Make sure they say MICRO-CLIP! Doctor found some good ones too!
I ordered, and then recieved the Radio Shack Micro clips yesterday, and proceded to try em out.
The contact end of them is shaped like an "L", making it way to easy for them to move over to the adjacent leg on the Voltage Controller IC, and short it out. I tried them on several boards around here, and couldn't find one type of IC that I would feel comfortable clipping them to, without the worry of them falling off.
I'm sorry to report that this Doctor will never prescribe the Radio Shack 278-017 MicroClips to my fellow overclockers. :(
Take a look...........
As you can see from this picture, it's way too easy for the clip to short out the adjacent leg of the IC, if it's moved even slightly.
I'm sorry, that I bent it a little trying to hold the clip open, and take the photo at the same time, but I think you get the idea...........
The good news is that I found the "Pomona Grabbers" at W.W.Grainger (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1613487081) for $6.80, for a set of 2.
They have the grabbers on each end of the black ones, and some other type of grabbers on the red set. They are connected by wires.
Photo...:burn:
Originally posted by Doctor
I ordered, and then recieved the Radio Shack Micro clips yesterday, and proceded to try em out.
The contact end of them is shaped like an "L", making it way to easy for them to move over to the adjacent leg on the Voltage Controller IC, and short it out. I tried them on several boards around here, and couldn't find one type of IC that I would feel comfortable clipping them to, without the worry of them falling off.
I'm sorry to report that this Doctor will never prescribe the Radio Shack 278-017 MicroClips to my fellow overclockers. :(
Take a look...........
so, then...
it still works right??
Originally posted by Doctor
As you can see from this picture, it's way too easy for the clip to short out the adjacent leg of the IC, if it's moved even slightly.
I'm sorry, that I bent it a little trying to hold the clip open, and take the photo at the same time, but I think you get the idea...........
That's an interesting pic. First off, that is one awesome camera. That's a little to close for my liking for pin 7, even though I bent the strong arm some so it would bend back out. I think I'm okay on pin 10, the arm heads out the other side of the chip.
Originally posted by Diu
so, then...
it still works right??
The "Pomona Grabbers" work.
The Radio Shack ones don't work.
Doctor
Originally posted by JAWS
That's an interesting pick. First off, that is one awesome camera. That' a little to close for my liking for pin 7, even though I bent the strong arm some so it would bend back out. I think I'm okay on pin 10, the arm heads out the other side of the chip.
Ya, the camera is a Nikon CoolPix 990. It will focus as close as 2cm.
You may want one of the grabbers for pin 7!
Good luck,
Doctor
Originally posted by Doctor
The "Pomona Grabbers" work.
The Radio Shack ones don't work.
Doctor
If i bend the L shape to J shape...from the radio shack one
i think it might be work..
I think you may be right. But be very carefull, and let us know how you make out.
Good Luck,
Doctor
Quantum_Angel
11-17-01, 06:33 AM
doctor do you know of a volt mod for the a7v266-e?
I just spent 1/2 hour looking through the archives, to find nothing for the "266" series. I have found many for the A7V, A7V-133, and the A7M-266.
If I were you, I would take a look at the mods for the other Asus boards, and see if the voltage controller chips are the same. If you find some similarities, let us know, and we/I will give you a hand figuring it out.
Good luck,
Doctor
Doc
I got a regular size 50K pot, mounted it through a recessed area vent hole in the rear of the case, and put an adjustable friction device and a knob on the shaft. The friction device is set so the shaft is hard to turn so as to prevent any inadvertent voltage changes. I bent the tab, that I wanted to use, against the pot case and soldered them together so don't need a separate wire to ground.
Now all I need is the grabber thingee and that should get here Monday (I think you sent it Thursday).
Bill :)
That's a great idea Bill! I like the friction device.
Please let us know how you maks out.........
Doctor
Dissolved
11-19-01, 03:24 PM
does anyone know of a volt mod for the gigabyte 7dxr?
in my bios it only goes to 1.85v and in the bios theres settings to go 1.75, 1.8 & 1.85 and through mbm5 it always reads 1.84v. im getting my watercooling setup this week, and id like to hit at lest 1.7ghz maybe more if im crazy enough, but i will need more volts right?
thanks
Sure thing, I found one here (http://www.ocinside.de/index_d.html?/html/workshop/gigabyte_ga7dxr_vcore_d.html), but it's in German. Plenty of pictures though.
It appears that it has the HIP6301 voltage controller, which is common to many mobo's. Therefore the mod will be the same.
You can just follow the pictures in the link above to locate your voltage controller, and use the same mod that I wrote for the Shuttle AK31. Ignore the wire they have going to the 3 legged chip on their mod, as it's just a convienient ground. You can attach that wire ti a ground screw on your mobo.
Follow it exactly!
I hope this helps you out,
Doctor
Dissolved
11-19-01, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Doctor
Sure thing, I found one here (http://www.ocinside.de/index_d.html?/html/workshop/gigabyte_ga7dxr_vcore_d.html), but it's in German. Plenty of pictures though.
It appears that it has the HIP6301 voltage controller, which is common to many mobo's. Therefore the mod will be the same.
You can just follow the pictures in the link above to locate your voltage controller, and use the same mod that I wrote for the Shuttle AK31. Ignore the wire they have going to the 3 legged chip on their mod, as it's just a convienient ground. You can attach that wire ti a ground screw on your mobo.
Follow it exactly!
I hope this helps you out,
Doctor
cool thanks. do u think i could hit 1.8ghz @ 2.15volts? i got a translator when that germen, so im reading it. i think i have the same cpu as you. im gonna go watercooling and i may possibly use a freg to cool the rad if i have enough money so i hope i can get about what ur getting from the 1.4ghz TB.
Mine just gets to 1804mhz, and that's @ -09C
:eek:
Doctor
Here's one for you Doctor. I volt modded my A7V-E board and put .2v on my system (which give me an extra 100mhz) but if I use the mod my 5v line drops to 4.79ish and the system craps out on me left, right and center. Can you give me directions on how to up the 5v line in my ps? It's a 300w Cyberzone brand. I already cracked it open looking for pots and found none. :(
Oh man, If it was an Antec, or Enermax I could help you out, but I have never taken one of those apart before.
As far as I can se, you have 2 options:
1. Add another PS to the system, in tandem with yours. One for the Mobo, and another for the drives. (I can help you with how to wire them together).
2. Get a good quality, high watt PS that you will own for a long time.
As an avid overclocker, I try to upgrade every 2nd generation of the newest stuff. When it's time to buy some new gear, I will sell my "old" system to a relative, or friend. Since I sell them an only a "mildly" overclocked system, all the stuff goes into a new case, with the PS it came with (I buy them good ones).
Because of this I spent the bux for an Enermax 550W temperture controlled PS. I will have this for a long time, and never have to worry about low voltage again.
I hope this helps you decide how to handle your problem,
Doctor
Dissolved
11-19-01, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Doctor
Oh man, If it was an Antec, or Enermax I could help you out, but I have never taken one of those apart before.
As far as I can se, you have 2 options:
1. Add another PS to the system, in tandem with yours. One for the Mobo, and another for the drives. (I can help you with how to wire them together).
2. Get a good quality, high watt PS that you will own for a long time.
As an avid overclocker, I try to upgrade every 2nd generation of the newest stuff. When it's time to buy some new gear, I will sell my "old" system to a relative, or friend. Since I sell them an only a "mildly" overclocked system, all the stuff goes into a new case, with the PS it came with (I buy them good ones).
Because of this I spent the bux for an Enermax 550W temperture controlled PS. I will have this for a long time, and never have to worry about low voltage again.
I hope this helps you decide how to handle your problem,
Doctor
what do u think of this psu? here (http://www.enermax.com.tw/products/eg-365p-vefca.htm)
i was thinking bout the 430watt model. do u think it would be good enough? or should i go for the 550watt? i found that 430watt one retail for 99.00.
thanks
Doctor, after your volt mod, I cannot get any higher than without volt mod. Possibly my Antec 300 watt is too weak for xp1600 @ 1650 plus.
Originally posted by Dissolved
what do u think of this psu? here (http://www.enermax.com.tw/products/eg-365p-vefca.htm)
i was thinking bout the 430watt model. do u think it would be good enough? or should i go for the 550watt? i found that 430watt one retail for 99.00.
thanks
Yes, that would be an excellent choice!
But if you go here (http://www.directron.com/eg465pve.html), you can get the same one for $80.00.
:beer:
Doctor
Originally posted by Polar2
Doctor, after your volt mod, I cannot get any higher than without volt mod. Possibly my Antec 300 watt is too weak for xp1600 @ 1650 plus.
I would try a few of things:
1. Increase your Vcore to 2.0v+, keeping a close eye on your temps.
2. Lower your DDR voltage to 2.5/2.6. You really don't need the voltage until you get into higher FSB's.
3. Try lowering the memory timing to CL-2.5.
See which one of these makes a difference in MHZ's, and follow it from there. When I get me system to it's highest potential, it comes from many, many restarts, and tweaking, and re-tweaking, untill I find the limits of the compontnts I'm dealing with.
Good luck,
Doctor
Dissolved
11-19-01, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Doctor
Yes, that would be an excellent choice!
But if you go here (http://www.directron.com/eg465pve.html), you can get the same one for $80.00.
:beer:
Doctor
thats the older model. enermax has a new model line out. there blue, and have a fan adj. on the back.
Originally posted by Doctor
Oh man, If it was an Antec, or Enermax I could help you out, but I have never taken one of those apart before.
As far as I can se, you have 2 options:
1. Add another PS to the system, in tandem with yours. One for the Mobo, and another for the drives. (I can help you with how to wire them together).
2. Get a good quality, high watt PS that you will own for a long time.
As an avid overclocker, I try to upgrade every 2nd generation of the newest stuff. When it's time to buy some new gear, I will sell my "old" system to a relative, or friend. Since I sell them an only a "mildly" overclocked system, all the stuff goes into a new case, with the PS it came with (I buy them good ones).
Because of this I spent the bux for an Enermax 550W temperture controlled PS. I will have this for a long time, and never have to worry about low voltage again.
I hope this helps you decide how to handle your problem,
Doctor
1) Tried that, sort of. I disconnected all of my drives, extraneous fans and such and checked the voltage with a meter, there was no difference. :( So a second supply to cover the drives portion of my machine would probably not help. Good idea though.
2) I know but I was hoping to avoid that option. :( I've already picked out the place to get myself an antec 300w for the cheapest price.
Dissolved
11-19-01, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by eobard
1) Tried that, sort of. I disconnected all of my drives, extraneous fans and such and checked the voltage with a meter, there was no difference. :( So a second supply to cover the drives portion of my machine would probably not help. Good idea though.
2) I know but I was hoping to avoid that option. :( I've already picked out the place to get myself an antec 300w for the cheapest price.
i got a antec 300watt i could sell yea..
Dissolved
11-19-01, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by eobard
blank post?
Oh no. It was a very eloquent and well worded post. And after pouring my soul into thinking of what to say and then typing it I attempted to post it. And after a long delay I got that stupid "cannot find server bla bla bla whatever the hell" crap! :( So I hit the back button on my browser and went back to the screen before it attempted to submit my post, and the stupid text box was blank!!!:mad: So I concluded that if this effen machine wants me to submit a blank post instead of my post that I wanted to put out to be read then so be it! And so we have a blank post. Stupid effen machine! (my computer, not the board)
Dissolved
11-20-01, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by eobard
Oh no. It was a very eloquent and well worded post. And after pouring my soul into thinking of what to say and then typing it I attempted to post it. And after a long delay I got that stupid "cannot find server bla bla bla whatever the hell" crap! :( So I hit the back button on my browser and went back to the screen before it attempted to submit my post, and the stupid text box was blank!!!:mad: So I concluded that if this effen machine wants me to submit a blank post instead of my post that I wanted to put out to be read then so be it! And so we have a blank post. Stupid effen machine! (my computer, not the board)
lmao... yea the same crap has happened to me 4 times now.. this board has a lagg a lil i think..
Christoph
11-20-01, 07:53 AM
It's always nice to copy your post to the clipboard and then find out that you just saved yourself the frustration that eoboard experienced. I've only had that happen once or twice, but it killed a valid and respectful debate because I couldn't stand to pour my heart out twice in an hour.
My condolences. The best you can do now is to make your next post better than the original.
Dissolved
11-20-01, 10:34 AM
7volt mod for fans? id like to mod my top blowhole 120mm fan on a switch 7/12/off is that possible?
thanks
Doc, I received the grabbers!:) Thanks! Fit perfect! You want to hear something funny? Before I added pin 10, I was getting around 48c-52c at idle. (Vcore at 2.08) Now my vcore is set to 2.11 (for now) and my full load temps are 50c. I'm kinda glad I had to brake down everything and start from scratch. Maybe I didn't apply enough A.S. last time. :(
You're very welcome, congratulations!
Now, wasn't that easy!
:)
Doctor
Doc where can you buy these grabbers!!!!!
Thanks Paul.K
I can buy some at Christmas when i head to the States NY City!!!
Originally posted by Paul.K
Doc where can you buy these grabbers!!!!!
Thanks Paul.K
I can buy some at Christmas when i head to the States NY City!!!
CIAO Paul!
We will be glad to have you in the US, and NY is alot of fun!
Here's (http://www.elexp.com/clp_5243.htm) a company in New Jersy (right next to NY) that has the grabbers. The company requires that you buy $20.00 worth of stuff from them, but since the have everything you could ever ask for to do your volt mod, you shouldn't have a hard time fulfilling that requirement.
I hope this helps you out.
Have a great trip, and a very Merry Christmas here!
Doctor
Doctor,
Thanks for your help much appreciated. By any chance do you know of any good PC hardware shops in Manhattan/New Jersey area. Thinking of buying a G-Force3 Ti200/500, memory, Epox 8K7A for my other system since I'll be in US on 26th of December.
And by the way a Merry Christmas to you!!!!!
Paul.K
P.S. Keep up the good work mate!!! We all appreciate the time and effort you spend in here!
Thanks for the kind words Paul!
You are very welcome :)
Here's (http://www.essencompu.com/) a place in NY that has everything your looking for. I have used them B4, and they are OK to deal with.
Have a GR8 trip, and a Happy Holiday season in the US!
Doctor
r0ckstarbob
11-27-01, 01:48 AM
thanks doc for this thread and for maintaining it. heres a small jump of the gun for you to put in your pipe when you think of it.
i have one of the new Abit KR7A RAID mobos commin at me next month and am looking for a vCore mod and a VIO/VIO-1 mod, so if you run into one of these and think to post it, i'd certainly be in your debt.
RSB
You're very welcome RSB!
Basically, most of the volt mods are the same. There are only 2, or 3 different voltage controller chips in the mobo's we use. If you could tell me the kind in your new KR7, when it arrives, we can come up with a volt mod 4U!
Lemme know,
:)
Doctor
BTW, Kool avatar!
fireman233
11-27-01, 01:38 PM
What Pot should I use. THis is going to an AK31 mod. Does a 47K pot make it easy enough to adjust the voltage, or is there a better choice?
DO I just go to radio shack and ask for a 47K pot? (Part number?)
Originally posted by fireman233
What Pot should I use. THis is going to an AK31 mod. Does a 47K pot make it easy enough to adjust the voltage, or is there a better choice?
DO I just go to radio shack and ask for a 47K pot? (Part number?)
I'm not sure what that board needs but I suggest two things:
1) Put a fixed resistor in series with a lower capacity pot. If your board needs a 47k pot then put a 22k pot in line with a 33k fixed resistor, that way you'll never have less than 33k resistance and you'll have less chance of putting too much voltage through your chip. My board mod should be a 50k pot but I used a fixed 47k resistor. Common resistors have a 10% variance and mine was less than 47k, it measured around 44k-45k, and using that bumped my voltage by .2v. If I had used a pot and turned it all the way in the wrong direction I could have possibly put as much as 2.5v through my chip and that would have blown it.
2) Don't get anything form radio crap.
Originally posted by fireman233
What Pot should I use. THis is going to an AK31 mod. Does a 47K pot make it easy enough to adjust the voltage, or is there a better choice?
DO I just go to radio shack and ask for a 47K pot? (Part number?)
The pot for the AK31 is a 47K pot. I have modde 3 of these, and have used the same one on all of them.
Follow this volt mod (http://www.overclockers.com/tips704/) link for part numbers, and instructions.
I wrote it, and it works perfectly.......
:)
Doctor
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48719
Shuttle AK31V2
XP 1800+ AGKGA Y @ 1.772 GHz (11.5 X 154 MHz) Vcore @ 2.00V (Voltage Mod Installed)
Themalright SK6 HS/F with 40 CFM YS Tech fan
256 MB Crucial PC 2100 @ 154 MHz CAS2
WD 30GB 7200 RPM ATA100 IDE HD
Adaptec 2940U2W SCSI Controller
Seagate 18GB Cheetah 10,000 RPM U2W LVD SCSI HD
24X SCSI CD-ROM
8x20 S&F (Sanyo) SCSI CDR
VisionTek Geforce 2 GTS Ultra 64MB @ 275/500
SBLive! 5.1 OEM
Intel Ambient HaM 56K PCI Modem
Generic Mid Tower Case with Antec PP352X 350W Power Supply
3-1/2" Floppy Drive
Win2K Professional with SP2 on SCSI HD
Win98 OEM on IDE HD
Ralphing
11-28-01, 07:10 PM
I've seen a few guides for vcore mods for the KG7, but I haven't been able to find Vmem, or VIO mods yet. Any ideas Doctor?
Appreciated.:)
I'm sorry, but I haven't seen any for this particular board, however, I would take a look at other mobo's mods, like this one (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/enmic_8kax_ep8k7a_vio_vcore.html), and see if you have the same controller chip.
If you do, the mod should be essentially the same.
Let me know how you make out.........
Doctor
Ralphing
11-29-01, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by r0ckstarbob
thanks doc for this thread and for maintaining it. heres a small jump of the gun for you to put in your pipe when you think of it.
i have one of the new Abit KR7A RAID mobos commin at me next month and am looking for a vCore mod and a VIO/VIO-1 mod, so if you run into one of these and think to post it, i'd certainly be in your debt.
RSB
Thanks to DDtung and others at icrontic for there help (Icrontic is currently down, I'll give credit to others when it's back up).
rOckstarbob, the KR7A apparently has the same voltage regullators as the kg7.
Double Vmod:
ic chip: HIP6301
location: between AGP slot & mosfets
pins to use: pin 7 on chip to one side of 1st VR and other side of VR to any ground on the board.
pin 10 on chip to one side of 2nd VR and other side of VR to any ground on the board.
I/O mod:
ic chip: HIP6012
location: lower right-hand corner of board
pin to use: pin 5 on chip to one side of 3rd VR and other side of VR to any ground on the board.
Vmem mod:
ic chip: HIP6521
location: upper right corner of board. Next to DIMM slot 4.
pin to use: pin 3 on chip to one side of 4th VR and other side of VR to any ground on the board.
Use 50k pots.
Eliminator
11-30-01, 09:49 AM
I found Pamona SMD Grabbers for $3.49 at Fry's Electronics in San Diego. You get one set which include 1 black and 1 red. That's right, you get a total of 2 grabbers.
So, if you live near a Fry's Electronics or Incredible Universe store. Go get'em !!!
I am going try to vmod my A7M266, but to my understanding I must solder the 4.7Kohm resistor...right? There really is no need for the Grabbers unless I use a potentiometer...which is optional...correct?
Nice find!
From what I've read, you are correct. 4.7K resistor should do the trick.
As for the grabbers, if you feel confident soldering to the SMD's on your mobo, you don't need them, however, they will clip onto just about anything small, and may help.
Good luck, and let us all know how you make out!
Doctor
Eliminator
11-30-01, 11:02 AM
Hmmm...
Well, then maybe I don't understand where you actually attach the 4.7K resistor in the C106 position. There is nothing for the grabbers to grab onto :D
Is there another way to attach the resistor that I am not aware of? The 7 pin does not come into play with the 4.7K, if I'm following the directions correctly. btw, my resistor is 1/8W...will it work or burn-up?
Or can I forget about the 4.7K all together and use a 100K potentiometer instead?
Thanks Doc
I'm sorry, but I was incorrect in telling you to use the grabbers to grab somthing that isn't there. :(
I have attached a photo I shot of a different board (because I don't have one of yours here :)) which I have colored in the soldering points for the 4.7K resistor with red dots.
You will be essentially be adding a resistor to a place on the mobo, that was intentionally left out. I suggest soldiring wires to the resistor, and then soldering them to the mobo, where I have indicated with my red dots.
I believe a 1/8th watt will be plenty.
Good luck!
:)
Doctor
Eliminator
11-30-01, 12:45 PM
Talk about some very delicate work. I don't think my hands are skilled enough for this. I have done plenty of soldering in my RC car days, but this is totally different.
Can I use the 100K potentiometer, which uses the Grabber for the 7 pin, instead of using the 4.7K resistor?
Thanks
Are any of the C106 traces connected to an IC chip, and if the answer is yes, what are the numbers on it?
Eliminator
11-30-01, 02:47 PM
Thank you for the nice close-up pictures! It gave me confidence that I am looking in the right area.
I did see a trace that leads to the 7 pin on the IC chip. Therefore, I tried the 100K pot and booted. In BIOS, I noticed that I could change the Vcore quite easily. I then saved the BIOS at 1.95v while keeping my default 133 FSB and waited for Win2K screen. Well, I got nothing but a black screen. I think my ground may be loose. I'm going to try and find some better wire. All I am using right now is some 18gauge solid wire. Maybe twisted wire will be more appropriate for the job. I'll let you know.
Thanks for all your help Doc...I feel much better now :)
Thanx Guy!
If you feel good, so do I :beer:
Doctor
Eliminator
12-01-01, 08:17 PM
Re: A7M266 Vcore mod
Hi Doc,
I just wanted to give you a heads-up on my Vcore mod. I am using just the 100k pot and I'm having difficulties. I cannot boot my computer into Win2k unless I am at default 1050 MHz . I also noticed that my Vcore will range between 1.75 - 2.10 all by itself. I have checked and re-checked all my connections and they are flawless. My 100K potentiometer wasn't cheap either, $3.50.
Have any other suggestions?
Thanks Again
Originally posted by Eliminator
Re: A7M266 Vcore mod
Hi Doc,
I just wanted to give you a heads-up on my Vcore mod. I am using just the 100k pot and I'm having difficulties. I cannot boot my computer into Win2k unless I am at default 1050 MHz . I also noticed that my Vcore will range between 1.75 - 2.10 all by itself. I have checked and re-checked all my connections and they are flawless. My 100K potentiometer wasn't cheap either, $3.50.
Have any other suggestions?
Thanks Again
Sure, but I need to know the numbers on your voltage controller chip.
Lemme know,
Doc
DodgeViper
12-03-01, 08:52 PM
It was a matter of time before I found myself coming to this thread. I am going to take the next step. I came to this forum in search of a motherboard telling myself I was not going to overclock. Well I learned fast and now I am a full-blown OVERCLOCKER looking for what I can get out of this computer.
I stopped by and picked up a 47K Potentiometer and now in need of a SMD GRABBER. If anyone would like to part with a GRABBER I would appreciated it. I am willing to send a few dollars your way.
Doctor, Having the same AK31 what was your MAXIMUM resistance when turning the potentiometer during setup? You have yours set to 2.2 max. volts. My question, what setting did you have your CPU VCORE in bios at when setting the 2.2 max and when you first booted the computer? I just don’t what to boot into a very high setting.
Originally posted by DodgeViper
It was a matter of time before I found myself coming to this thread. I am going to take the next step. I came to this forum in search of a motherboard telling myself I was not going to overclock. Well I learned fast and now I am a full-blown OVERCLOCKER looking for what I can get out of this computer.
I stopped by and picked up a 47K Potentiometer and now in need of a SMD GRABBER. If anyone would like to part with a GRABBER I would appreciated it. I am willing to send a few dollars your way.
Doctor, Having the same AK31 what was your MAXIMUM resistance when turning the potentiometer during setup? You have yours set to 2.2 max. volts. My question, what setting did you have your CPU VCORE in bios at when setting the 2.2 max and when you first booted the computer? I just don’t what to boot into a very high setting.
LOL!
I'm sorry to inform you that it's time for you to join OA.
Overclockers Anonymous.
[stands up from chair and speaks] "Hi, my name is DodgeViper, and i'm and Overlcocker" :eek:
Yes, I have the pot set for 2.2v-max, and had the Vcore in the bios set to stock.
I've never measured the pots resistance, but the key for safely starting up for the 1st time is to set it to MAXIMUM resistance before booting. Then, while in the voltage screen it the bios, just start lowering the resistanc of the pot, and watch the voltage rise.
Good luck,
Doc
DodgeViper
12-04-01, 06:49 AM
YEA YEA YEA, Once I built the computer and it had been running for a while my wife asked, What’s wrong with the hardrive? I had to inform her that those were fans running. Her next question was, What’s the hole in the top of the case? It's a blowhole to help the cooling. She is already asking if this sound is going to continue emitting from the family room. So I guess you can see where this is going a new case, new cooling, etc…..
Eliminator
12-04-01, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Doctor
Sure, but I need to know the numbers on your voltage controller chip.
Lemme know,
Doc
Where might that be located ? I've looked in the manual to no avail.
Thanks
Originally posted by Eliminator
Where might that be located ? I've looked in the manual to no avail.
Thanks
Right Here:
Originally posted by Eliminator
Where might that be located ? I've looked in the manual to no avail.
Thanks
Or this one!
Originally posted by DodgeViper
YEA YEA YEA, Once I built the computer and it had been running for a while my wife asked, What’s wrong with the hardrive? I had to inform her that those were fans running. Her next question was, What’s the hole in the top of the case? It's a blowhole to help the cooling. She is already asking if this sound is going to continue emitting from the family room. So I guess you can see where this is going a new case, new cooling, etc…..
Sounds just like me! LOL! It's a great hobby to have though!
Christoph
12-04-01, 10:52 AM
I think that I just ordered some of those pomona grabbers (ouch!) from grainger.com, but they don't have a very clear or simple ordering process. I haven't seen anything about what shipping will cost and I haven't gotten a confirmation email yet. If I don't hear anything from them by this afternoon, I'll take another stab at it.
Hey Doctor or anyone else --
I just got my KR7A -- and I want to go ahead and set up the volt mod. I have two Pomona Grabbers (thanks Doc), two 47k adjustable pots, and all the wiring. Here is my questions.
On the HIP6301 chip -- where exactly are pins 7 and 10. I have seen diagrams, but I don't know what the orientation of the chip is. Are pins 7 and 10 on the AGP slot side (lower right hand side of the chip) or on the CPU Socket (Mosfet) side of the chip (upper left hand side?????
Thanks for your help.
I have got a 1900+ AGKGA 'K' that has been craving more power --but my old 8K7A+ could not reliably deliver more than 2.05 Vcore (good for 1.825 ghz) -- I am looking for 2.1 to 2.2 (and 1.9+ ghz).
I water cool -- and will be installing a new and improved cooling system in the near future, so cooling should be very good.
Thanks.
Ralphing
12-04-01, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by skrill
Hey Doctor or anyone else --
On the HIP6301 chip -- where exactly are pins 7 and 10. I have seen diagrams, but I don't know what the orientation of the chip is. Are pins 7 and 10 on the AGP slot side (lower right hand side of the chip) or on the CPU Socket (Mosfet) side of the chip (upper left hand side?????
Thanks for your help.
Thanks.
The pins are on the lower right hand side. I've already done the mod and I suggest you skip the pot on pin 10. It apparently has no effect. Others have had similar results.
:)
Originally posted by Ralphing
The pins are on the lower right hand side. I've already done the mod and I suggest you skip the pot on pin 10. It apparently has no effect. Others have had similar results.
:)
Don't you have to clip pin 10 to increase your voltage past 2.1? I know I had to, but I have a KT7A!
Originally posted by IdeaMagnate
I think that I just ordered some of those pomona grabbers (ouch!) from grainger.com, but they don't have a very clear or simple ordering process. I haven't seen anything about what shipping will cost and I haven't gotten a confirmation email yet. If I don't hear anything from them by this afternoon, I'll take another stab at it.
I'm sorry to report that someone from this forum ordered them from Grainger, and they are not the same as the picture in their catalog, or website.
I would cancel the order if you can.
You can get them here (http://www.elexp.com/clp_5243.htm), but need to order $20.00 worth of stuff from them. This actually isn't too bad since they also sell all the other gear you would need to do a volt mod.
If enough people can't get them, I will order some more, and distrubute them again.
Doctor
Originally posted by JAWS
Don't you have to clip pin 10 to increase your voltage past 2.1? I know I had to, but I have a KT7A!
I can get 2.2+ with just pin#7 on my Shuttle.
Doc
Originally posted by skrill
Hey Doctor or anyone else --
I just got my KR7A -- and I want to go ahead and set up the volt mod. I have two Pomona Grabbers (thanks Doc), two 47k adjustable pots, and all the wiring. Here is my questions.
On the HIP6301 chip -- where exactly are pins 7 and 10. I have seen diagrams, but I don't know what the orientation of the chip is. Are pins 7 and 10 on the AGP slot side (lower right hand side of the chip) or on the CPU Socket (Mosfet) side of the chip (upper left hand side?????
Thanks for your help.
I have got a 1900+ AGKGA 'K' that has been craving more power --but my old 8K7A+ could not reliably deliver more than 2.05 Vcore (good for 1.825 ghz) -- I am looking for 2.1 to 2.2 (and 1.9+ ghz).
I water cool -- and will be installing a new and improved cooling system in the near future, so cooling should be very good.
Thanks.
This picture should help you out, if your mobo does have the Intersil HIP6301 voltage controller.
If you notice the notch on one end, it will help you discern which leg is the correct one.
I hope this helps you out.
:)
Doctor
Originally posted by skrill
Hey Doctor or anyone else --
I just got my KR7A -- and I want to go ahead and set up the volt mod. I have two Pomona Grabbers (thanks Doc), two 47k adjustable pots, and all the wiring. Here is my questions.
On the HIP6301 chip -- where exactly are pins 7 and 10. I have seen diagrams, but I don't know what the orientation of the chip is. Are pins 7 and 10 on the AGP slot side (lower right hand side of the chip) or on the CPU Socket (Mosfet) side of the chip (upper left hand side?????
Thanks for your help.
I have got a 1900+ AGKGA 'K' that has been craving more power --but my old 8K7A+ could not reliably deliver more than 2.05 Vcore (good for 1.825 ghz) -- I am looking for 2.1 to 2.2 (and 1.9+ ghz).
I water cool -- and will be installing a new and improved cooling system in the near future, so cooling should be very good.
Thanks.
Here is the chip the way it's on your board!
You beat me to it!:)
Originally posted by JAWS
You beat me to it!:)
LOL!
Well, at least skrill won't be confused!
:D
Doc
Originally posted by Doctor
I can get 2.2+ with just pin#7 on my Shuttle.
Doc
I think the Abit boards are little different! I think I've come to a conclusion (whenever I get some extra money) to get a Shuttle. That one you have is looking strong!
Hey guys thanks for the help.
One more (dumb) question -- how do I connect the grabbers to the wire I have soldered to the pot? Do I pull of the "cap" portion, solder to the copper loop, then replace the "cap"?
I am sorry for being so stupid. Four years at Harvard and three at U. of Chicago -- and they never taught me how to Overvolt an Abit Mobo using Pomona grabbers. Thats a waste of $150k. LOL!!
:)
Doctor had this written down somewhere! I'll try to remember. Pull the wire threw the cap hole then solder to the little metal piece and replace the cap. The only dumb question is the one not asked. I bet I've asked Doctor over 100!:)
Originally posted by JAWS
I bet I've asked Doctor over 100!:)
LOL!,
Ya, but the only reason I answer you is for the extra stars! :D
Doc
Doc
You probably don't remember but I was grumbeling that I couldn't find my AK31 v3.1 PCI bus speed in Sandra. Sent email to SiSoft and got the following;
"KT266A is not supported by Sandra until 8.53 version. Unfortunately, the latest Standard is 8.11. Thus, please wait until we release Standard 2002 aka 8.6x which will support the KT266A."
Might be a factor.
Bill. :beer:
Originally posted by bpratt
Doc
You probably don't remember but I was grumbeling that I couldn't find my AK31 v3.1 PCI bus speed in Sandra. Sent email to SiSoft and got the following;
"KT266A is not supported by Sandra until 8.53 version. Unfortunately, the latest Standard is 8.11. Thus, please wait until we release Standard 2002 aka 8.6x which will support the KT266A."
Might be a factor.
Bill. :beer:
Thanks for the info Bill!
Ironicly, it worked on my Win2K machine until I ugraded to XP.
:(
Doc
Eliminator
12-12-01, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Doctor
Sure, but I need to know the numbers on your voltage controller chip.
Lemme know,
Doc
UPDATE: Sorry for the delay.
HIP6013CB
P123CAD
What I have done thus far is attach the 4.7K to the SMD gragger. I tried setting the Vcore to 2.0, it still fluctuates between 1.95-2.032. Not perfect, but much better and I'm able to boot with this Vcore. This mobo (A7M266) max's out at 2.16 in the BIOS..Is this true?
OK..here's the deal. My mobo mulitplier is locked at 10.5. I have my Vcore at almost 2V and my VIO1=2.9V. I have VIO settings at default 3.3V because I have no idea what these should be at. Is this ok? I am able to boot with an FSB=160. When Win2K boots up after the DOS startup screen, everything is illegible and colored lines and blocks all over the place. The thing is, "Your settings are being loaded" screen appears to look normal. I am running SETI w/o any probs along with IE and Outlook Express..which usually freeze up on me if I try and push it too far. Is this due to not enough V to my memory? or maybe my v5 5500 not liking the 160 FSB at startup?
Many Thanks...I'm having a ball!
1st, I hope that you mean that your pot is 47K rather than 4.7K!
All mobo's are different in how well they respond to volt mods. Some can go to 2.4v, and some will just get over 2.0v.
Chances are that your video card might not like the high FSB.
Sometimes a little more VIO will help, try it!
Also, with high FSB's, upping your memory voltage will help considerably. I run mine at 2.7v, because it's the max 4 my mobo. I would try 2.7, or 2.8v if you have that option.
I'm glad that you're enjoying your new found power..:burn:
Good luck,
Doc
Eliminator
12-12-01, 02:07 PM
Memory is already maxed at 2.9V
Sorry, I wasn't to clear.
I have a 4.7K resistor that is attatched at one end to an SMD grabber and the other to a 100K Pot. Before, I just had the 100K Pot without the 4.7K resistor and I was getting really bad fluctuations for my Vcore.
Funny, I was able to max out at 2.16 a minute ago, but no I'm stuck at 2.06V....weird. I'll just keep it maxed out because the fluctuations are very small (+-.03V).
Also, my comp boots without a hitch. Go figure. I guess I needed more power...Don't we all?
Thanks Again
freshy98
12-13-01, 09:35 AM
I saw mod's about the MSI K7T Pro2, but nog the MSI K7T266 Pro2. Big difference.
But can it be that the chip is the same and that therefore the mod works for both the K7T Pro2 and the K7T266 Pro2?
Originally posted by freshy98
I saw mod's about the MSI K7T Pro2, but nog the MSI K7T266 Pro2. Big difference.
But can it be that the chip is the same and that therefore the mod works for both the K7T Pro2 and the K7T266 Pro2?
Yes, in general, if the 2 mobo's have the same voltage controller chip, the mod is the same.
If you need help, let me know.......
:)
Doc
Christoph
12-13-01, 10:08 AM
Hey Doc,
Is there any place where I could get some of those pomona grabbers with no minimum order and where I don't have to be a business?
Eliminator
12-13-01, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by IdeaMagnate
Hey Doc,
Is there any place where I could get some of those pomona grabbers with no minimum order and where I don't have to be a business?
Fry's Electronics or Incredible Universe stores are two places that I have seen them. You get 2 grabbers for $3.49 :)
Doc,
My fluctuation Vcore is driving me nuts (1.93-2.06). I would like to max out my Vcore, but this Pot seems to cap out at 2V. I did see it hit 2.17, but fell shortly there after. I haven't been able to reproduce the same 2.17 again. Can I use something else besides the 100K Pot that does not require soldering? (A7M266)
Christoph
12-13-01, 12:08 PM
I don't live near either of those stores. I don't need the grabbers right now, so I might just wait until the next time I go up to Portland, but I was thinking more of an online store. Thanks, though.
Originally posted by Eliminator
Doc,
My fluctuation Vcore is driving me nuts (1.93-2.06). I would like to max out my Vcore, but this Pot seems to cap out at 2V. I did see it hit 2.17, but fell shortly there after. I haven't been able to reproduce the same 2.17 again. Can I use something else besides the 100K Pot that does not require soldering? (A7M266)
Is it possible that the grabber isn't making a constant connection, or that the 100K is too big, and isn't giving you a fine enough adjustment?
I would try the 4.7K resistor, and maybe a 50K or less pot.
Lemme know.........
Doc
hey Doc, i just got the grabber you sent me a couple of days ago...after i get some CS projects turned in have my surgery on monday, i hope to get my mod done
...it's a 47k pot right?...cuz that's what i got, but i can get others
...anyways what i meant to say is thanks a million for the grabber, i'll soon bee burnin along:D :D :D
freshy98
12-14-01, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Doctor
Is it possible that the grabber isn't making a constant connection, or that the 100K is too big, and isn't giving you a fine enough adjustment?
I would try the 4.7K resistor, and maybe a 50K or less pot.
Lemme know.........
Doc
If the grabber isnt making a constant connection it should fluctuate indeed. In that case he should try soldering for a real permanent connection.
freshy98
12-14-01, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Doctor
Yes, in general, if the 2 mobo's have the same voltage controller chip, the mod is the same.
If you need help, let me know.......
:)
Doc
Thnx! Gonna get me an 6.5K Ohm resistor this weekend I think.
My dad knew those micro clips here in Holland. He's in electronics for a living so he should be able to get them :D
Now all I need is a bigger PSU than my 300W DEC I have right now. :mad:
Originally posted by amok
hey Doc, i just got the grabber you sent me a couple of days ago...after i get some CS projects turned in have my surgery on monday, i hope to get my mod done
...it's a 47k pot right?...cuz that's what i got, but i can get others
...anyways what i meant to say is thanks a million for the grabber, i'll soon bee burnin along:D :D :D
"You are correct Sir!"
47K.......
Good luck, and let me know if you need any help :)
Doc
Hey Doctor and Fellow members...
First I would like to say hello to everyone here.....drinks are on me.....:beer: :D
I am very interested in Vmoding my motherboard.
I have an MSI K7T266 Pro2-RU and an XP1600+.....with it locked I couldn't post at or after 153 FSB(1606Mhz).....now with it unlocked its still the same no matter what.
Even when I change to Multiplier or the FSB, I still cant seem to be stable pass the 1600Mhz mark...:mad:
At 12x133(1596Mhz) I can almost complete the 3D Benchmark....It drops back to desktop with about 2 secs left..:(
I have tried lowering the ram settings too....but it doesnt seem to make any difference. I can do all the tests in Sandra Tho..
So I reckon I need just that little bit more VCore, am I correct..?
Would anyone here be able to help me with a URL and Tutorial for an MSI K7T266 Pro2-RU VMOD ????
Also, Doctor, would you have any ideas where I could find these grabbers or Pomona Grabbers..???
And correct me if I'm wrong, but this Vmod using the grabbers......there is NO soldering required right....??
I have found an article here (http://www.athlonoc.com/voltagemod3.php) which has a picture of a Voltage Regulator Chip SC2422 for an MSI K7T266.
Would this still be correct for my MSI K7T266 Pro2-RU as well??
BTW.....Im new :) to all of this, so please dont be too harsh if I asked some wrong questions.
Thnx for the help guys...:)
First of all, Welcome To The Forums Coney!
Thanks for the cocktail!
I believe that a volt mod is in order for you.
If your mobo has the same SC2422 Voltage Controller, the mod is the same. Just search your mobo for it, and read the numbers. If not, let me know what IC it has, and I can hook you up with a mod that will work 4U.
Since you live in OZ, I don't know where to send you for the grabbers, other than going to a high end electronics supplier, and asking for "IC Test Clips", or explaing to the ppl there that you need a tiny clip to connect to the leg of an "IC" (Inegrated Circut).
The olny soldering needed is to connect the wire to the Grabber, although I have seen them sold with wires already attached.
Lemme know,
:)
Doc
Doctor,
Thnx for the Welcome.....Im just on my way to work....
Recieved an email from Mod Depot enquiring about their VMod Kit.....They dont send to Australia....:(
I'll go and ask DSE(Dick Smith Electronics) if they have what I need.....
What else besides those clip would I need..??
Thnx for the Help DOC..
Heres another Beer.....But only after ya answered me...Dont want ya posting the wrong reply....:p :)
Originally posted by Coney
Doctor,
Thnx for the Welcome.....Im just on my way to work....
Recieved an email from Mod Depot enquiring about their VMod Kit.....They dont send to Australia....:(
I'll go and ask DSE(Dick Smith Electronics) if they have what I need.....
What else besides those clip would I need..??
Thnx for the Help DOC..
Heres another Beer.....But only after ya answered me...Dont want ya posting the wrong reply....:p :)
Hehe, the only other thins you will need are some pieces of wire, and the correct pot/variable resistor called for in your mod.
Doc
Thought I said No drinking till after ya answered.....:p
Could you be a little more specific as to what type of cables and pot/variable resistor to get please Doc..?
Thnx again...
:cool:
It appears from this (http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/k7tpro/) article, that you could just de-solder the R60 resistor from your board, and get 1.97v. If you combine this with a 5K-Ohms resistor from in #6 of your voltage controller to ground, you can get to 2.07v.
I would do both, but use a 10k=>20k pot, so you can adjust it.
As for the wire, just use some multi-stranded, flexible wire that is easy to manipulate, and the pot can be pretty much any kind within the resistance values I mentioned.
Good luck, mate.......
:)
Doc
Maximus Nickus
12-17-01, 11:23 AM
Hi Doc,
Any ideas on the longevity of the Grabbers? Last thing I want is them falling off! :rolleyes:
Thanks,
Nick
P.S. Feel free to have a beer, I am! :beer:
Hi Nick,
You would be hard pressed to pull one of the grabbers off, without unclipping it.
They are very tenacious, and because of the way they are made, they really can't short out.
BTW, I've been working on this thread (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=397200&t=7076#post397200), and he seems to have found them in the UK. You may want to check it out.......
Thanx 4 the beer!
:)
Doc
Originally posted by nick_cw
Thanks!:beer:
What other parts would I need to Volt Mod it though? I heard about that variable thingy, what is it? Like a switch....?
Also is my fan cooling enough? 35C Max Load....
The other "thingy" has many names:
Potentiometer/Pot
Variable Resistor
Trimmer
Rather than having a volt mod with a fixed resistance, and therefore a fixed voltage, the pot allows you to adjust it, using a knob, or screwdriver, and even from outside your case, if you mounted it that way.
This can even be done from Windows, watching your voltage in real time, under load using MBM.
As for cooling, 35c is pretty good, but more voltage = more heat.
You will need to keep a sharp eye on your temps in the first few hours/days you get it running.
I hope this clears things up 4U
:)
Doc
Maximus Nickus
12-17-01, 02:31 PM
Thanks Doc,
Any ideas where to get it from? The link on the other thread died!
M_N
Nick,
Take a look at the other link. I typed in the path for the Grabbers.
They cost £4.01.
As for the Pot resistance, I forgot what your mobo is, but go to my Volt Mod sticky, and take a look at the one for it.
:beer:
Doc
Originally posted by nick_cw
Thanks
Last question:eek:
What order does it go to?
Is it like Grabber on board>resistor>variable thingy!>wire thing>case?
Thanks again!
Si
Da
Oui
Yes!
That would be correct!
I would try a 220K-1/4W resistor, and a 50K Pot in series.
Also, it's best to ground to one of your mobo mounting screws near your Voltage Controller.
:)
Doc
Maximus Nickus
12-17-01, 03:47 PM
Thanks,
Is this grabber any good in your experience? (See attached)
Sorry, but those don't work too well.
If you go here (http://www.rswww.com/), and search for "SMD Grabber", it will bring you to a page with several of them.
The one with this part number "100-0348" is perfect, and they are in the UK!
Doc
Maximus Nickus
12-17-01, 05:08 PM
Thanks i'll get the resistor ASAP!
Originally posted by nick_cw
Thanks i'll get the resistor as try it asap, by the way can I just do it with a resistor without the adjustable pot?
I want it to be quite simple, but I mean if I do the mod to say +.03V TO make 2.15V or 2.2V I could just lower it in the bios to the lowest if it doesn't like it?
Thanks I'll see when I can get the parts!
You can just use a fixed resistor.
Some of the mods can still be adjusted in the bios, and some can't. I don't know about yours.
Lemme know how you make out.....
Doc
Maximus Nickus
12-17-01, 05:35 PM
Thanks for your time Doc!
:beer:
Hey Doctor....
First you need to know....I couldnt solder for **** if my life depended on it.....so I think de-soldering is out of the question too....and that article is for an MSI K7T Pro 2/2A....mine is an MSI K7T266 Pro2-RU....I think there different....but I might be wrong.
Could you have a look at this article (http://www.voidyourwarranty.net/review/review.php3?r1=vmodclips/index.php3) please Doc, and tell me if that Prebuilt Mod Depot VMod Kit (http://moddepot.com/~moddepot/cgi-bin/cart.cgi/prekit0002.html) is what I could use for the VModding of my MSI Motherboard??
Is there any other things that I would need besides the kit??
Could you also tell me which Pot I should get....the 47 or 100kohm??
And where I should connect the clip to..??
Thnx for the help.
:beer: time again...
Cheers...:)
Coney,
You will need to look at your mobo. and see if you have the sam voltage controller chip as the mod I pointed out.
Please let me know, so I can respond to the rest of your questions.
:)
Doc
Originally posted by Doctor
Coney,
You will need to look at your mobo. and see if you have the sam voltage controller chip as the mod I pointed out.
Please let me know, so I can respond to the rest of your questions.
:)
Doc Sure thing Doc....Sorry.....ill be back in 5..
:cool:
Umm....sorry to sound like a Newb.....but couls someone kinda point me towards where on the board I might find it placed.....Im having a little trouble locating it.....:eek:
Originally posted by Doctor
Coney,
You will need to look at your mobo. and see if you have the sam voltage controller chip as the mod I pointed out.
Please let me know, so I can respond to the rest of your questions.
:)
Doc Okies Doc......Finally found out where it is and what the chip is called....:)
The Voltage Regulator Chip is a HIP 6301 and not the Semtech SC 1155.
Hope that helps....you help me....:p
Heres one to get ya going....:beer:
:D :cool:
OK Coney,
Thats easy! Just do the exact same mod ast the one I wrote for the Shuttle AK31.
Buy the 47K volt mod kit....
I will be away for several days, on holiday, so good luck!
:)
Doc
Originally posted by Doctor
OK Coney,
Thats easy! Just do the exact same mod ast the one I wrote for the Shuttle AK31.
Buy the 47K volt mod kit....
I will be away for several days, on holiday, so good luck!
:)
Doc Thnx for the reply Doc...
Is this (http://www.overclockers.com/tips704/) one ur talking bout???
:cool:
Originally posted by Coney
Thnx for the reply Doc...
Is this (http://www.overclockers.com/tips704/) one ur talking bout???
:cool:
Yes, That would be the one!
Have fun :beer:
Doc
Doc...
What am I meant to have the vcore on before I attach the grabbers..??
When u say changing the vcore in the bios....do you mean that by leaving the vcore on 1.85 before i attach the grabbers, after turning the pot up to show 2.1Volts(for eg.) in bios.....I can adjust it via the bios by putting it to 1.75 which would really be 2.0Volts....right?
Originally posted by Coney
Doc...
What am I meant to have the vcore on before I attach the grabbers..??
When u say changing the vcore in the bios....do you mean that by leaving the vcore on 1.85 before i attach the grabbers, after turning the pot up to show 2.1Volts(for eg.) in bios.....I can adjust it via the bios by putting it to 1.75 which would really be 2.0Volts....right?
Just set the VCore to default in the bios, and start up with the pot set to MAX resistance>
Boot into the bios, voltage screen to monitor your voltage as you DECREASE the resistance with the pot. You will watch as the voltage rises.
You use the bios screen as your voltmeter.
After you set it to a reasonable increase in voltage, you may also be able to use the bios to adjust it, but it doesn't work with all mobo's.
Good luck,
:)
Doc
Originally posted by Doctor
Just set the VCore to default in the bios, and start up with the pot set to MAX resistance>
Boot into the bios, voltage screen to monitor your voltage as you DECREASE the resistance with the pot. You will watch as the voltage rises.
You use the bios screen as your voltmeter.
After you set it to a reasonable increase in voltage, you may also be able to use the bios to adjust it, but it doesn't work with all mobo's.
Good luck,
:)
Doc Thnx Doc....Now just to find someone that ships to Aus....:mad:
Maximus Nickus
12-20-01, 07:12 AM
Merry Christmas and have a happy Holiday Doc!!!
I'll be trying my MOD when I get my new 2200+ chip as my 1Ghz is on its last legs..
Have a Christmas Drink!
:beer:
Nick
2200+??
And MERRY XMAS ALL!!!
Maximus Nickus
12-20-01, 07:18 AM
Yup 2200+ info Here (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51544)
Ho ho ho!!!:beer:
Originally posted by nick_cw
Merry Christmas and have a happy Holiday Doc!!!
I'll be trying my MOD when I get my new 2200+ chip as my 1Ghz is on its last legs..
Have a Chirstmas Drink
:beer:
Nick
Thanx Nick!
Merry Christmas to you and yours!
:beer:
Doctor
Originally posted by nick_cw
Yup 2200+ info Here (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51544)
Ho ho ho!!!:beer: Thnx for the link Nick....
Merry Xmas and a HO Ho HO!!!
:beer:
Hey Guys/DOC...
I think I found a Shop in Australia that sells the clips....but im not sure which one to order.....would someone like to help me out...?
Heres a link for the clips (http://au.rs-c.dk/toc/vp.jsp?pageNo=0&point=2963).
Theres more over the page...:)
And heres the Main Website (http://www.rs-components.com.au/)
Thnx for help guys...!!!
Whats the highest you recommend me taking the Vcore up to...??
Originally posted by Coney
Hey Guys/DOC...
I think I found a Shop in Australia that sells the clips....but im not sure which one to order.....would someone like to help me out...?
Heres a link for the clips (http://au.rs-c.dk/toc/vp.jsp?pageNo=0&point=2963).
Theres more over the page...:)
And heres the Main Website (http://www.rs-components.com.au/)
Thnx for help guys...!!!
Whats the highest you recommend me taking the Vcore up to...??
At most 1.95/2.00v. Aircooling really cant take any more. I wouldnt advise a voltage mod anyway, increasing the voltage inside the core increases thermal output (heat) which increases electrical resistance, and lowers the core yield anyway.
1.85 - 1.89v is the sweet spot for XPs
btw, welcome to the forums coney :cool:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bravo
[B]
1.85 - 1.89v is the sweet spot for XPs
Bravo Where did you come up with this figure? Am not chalanging you, would just like to know more about it.
Have my XP1600+ at 1.9v and am doing 1400@1618 unlocked.
Thanks, Bill :)
Originally posted by Bravo
At most 1.95/2.00v. Aircooling really cant take any more. I wouldnt advise a voltage mod anyway, increasing the voltage inside the core increases thermal output (heat) which increases electrical resistance, and lowers the core yield anyway.
1.85 - 1.89v is the sweet spot for XPs
btw, welcome to the forums coney :cool: Hey, I know you....Heres a drink for ya Bravo....:beer:
Thanx for the welcome:)
Well.....I was messing around..seeing what the PAL can handle...got up to 1650(11x150)@2.2Volts....but my idle temps were up by around the 45-47 degree mark.......so now its back down to 1600(10x160)@1.95Volts....
Pr3dat0r
12-23-01, 07:03 PM
Hey Doc i think i know the voltage regulator for the Asus A7V 266-E but the link is dead for a few hours ill post it in a few hours.
Cya then m8s
EHhehe....
My next question....
How about VModding the DDR Voltage...Is that possible??
I only have 2.6 or 2.7 to choose from...:(
Pr3dat0r
12-24-01, 02:58 AM
Im back the regulator of the ASUS A7V 266-E is the CS5322C and you will need an 0-100 k resistant.
Good luck m8s
Originally posted by Coney
EHhehe....
My next question....
How about VModding the DDR Voltage...Is that possible??
I only have 2.6 or 2.7 to choose from...:(
I'm sorry, but I've searched the archives, and can't come up with a DDR mod for your mobo.
You could probably develop one, but it would require some work.
Since you can't monitor the voltage from your mobo, or any other method, other than a properly placed voltmeter, you risk frying your nice Corsair :(
If you are still wanting to burn somthing up, follow my "Get Your Volt Mods Here" link's 1st page links. There are alot of them that also show DDR mods, and if you see one similar to your's, it will probably work.
BTW, how did your volt mod go? I noticed that you're running @ 2.0v!
Lemme know.........
:)
Doc
Originally posted by Doctor
I'm sorry, but I've searched the archives, and can't come up with a DDR mod for your mobo.
You could probably develop one, but it would require some work.
Since you can't monitor the voltage from your mobo, or any other method, other than a properly placed voltmeter, you risk frying your nice Corsair :(
If you are still wanting to burn somthing up, follow my "Get Your Volt Mods Here" link's 1st page links. There are alot of them that also show DDR mods, and if you see one similar to your's, it will probably work.
BTW, how did your volt mod go? I noticed that you're running @ 2.0v!
Lemme know.........
:)
Doc First up.....MERRY XMAS DOC!!!
Have a nice holiday? :)
Well I had to use clips that were a little bigger than those SMD Grabbers.....but it worked!!!
I had it up to 2.25 Volts at 1650(11x150), but the increase in idle temps was 16 degrees...49 C....:(
So now I got it at 1600(10x160) at 2.0 Volts fully stable.....:D
Whats the safest temps for the XP to go to...??
Howabout Voltage?
Hehehe....Well I dont really want to fry my Corsair......cant afford to replace them ATM.....:(
BTW.....Im having problems with the raid setup on my Mobo....if anyone knows anything about RAID...please go here (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?threadid=53701)
Thnx guys...
Heheh!
Thanx Coney, but it's not Christmas in the US yet!
Let's not forget that you're in OZ, and a day ahead of us, so we have to wait for tomorrow :(
Congratulations on your sucessfull Volt Mod! :beer:
Now, didn't doing it, and having it work out so well make you feel good! :D
Anyway, as for safe temps, I don't like to go above 50C, ever.
There gets to be point where you get a diminishing return on the Voltage vs Temp thing. You need to play around with your combo for awhile to find the "Sweet Spot".
Merry Christmas
:)
Doctor
BTW, I will take a LQQK at your raid thread 4U.........
Yea....Im not comfortable with anything higher than 45 on idle myself...
Yes....It feels great.....:D
ANd thnx to you to Doc and everyone else here....
If it wasnt for u guys, I would still be trying to get past 1580Mhz...ehhe
And thnx for LQQKing into the RAID thread.....I have been troubleshooting it for 2 full days now....
Im about to give up and RA the MoBo as I beleive it might be the RAID Controllers themselves......but the one thing that keeps me from thinking that is I can do a format of the HDD's when there setup as the raid 0....so the HDD's are able to be read.
Stephen Castles
12-25-01, 07:25 PM
actually, solder connections ARE NOT permanent, if you solder something on, just heat it up with your soldering iron till the solder is melted, and pull off the wire, it's simple as that, plus you get a better and stonger connection.
Hey Doc,
Just thought ya would wanna have a look at my NEW Benchie socres.....ehehhe
Click Me (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54299)
kronchev
12-27-01, 11:04 AM
il doktor...
anything for A7V-E? its much different than A7V, and im too nervous (and stupid) for the 5v rail mod
itssoLARGE
12-27-01, 12:30 PM
yo doctor.. u should add the Vmod for the SOYO K7V Dragon Plus (same for the normal dragon) .. it uses the same voltage regulator as the AK31
Originally posted by kronchev
il doktor...
anything for A7V-E? its much different than A7V, and im too nervous (and stupid) for the 5v rail mod
I've done it on mine. The chip is the same kind as the A7V, it's just in a different location on the board, but the mod is the same. Just run the wire from the same pin on the chip to a resistor (50k pot is suggested but I used a fixed resistor that gave around 43k resistance to get a +.2v boost). Then have the other end of the resistor going to ground, I put a wire with a pin connector on it so I could easily attatch it to the ground pin from one of my fan connectors. Instead of being on a riser card the volt chip is on the main board, near the cpu.
to do that mod, do you solder to the mosfets on the back of the board, cause that would be tricky. im going to go measure it anyways but i think i heard somewhere that they were 5v mosfets my 5v is at 4.8 almost all the time sometimes lower almost never higher so i think this could add stability. hey and maybe i could oc a little higher too
but if anyone knows it would be a great help
thanks
why does everyone complain about soldering i feel much safer with solder then a clip but hey whatever floats your boat
i also have done mods to playstations so thats so tiny work real tiny:cool:
Maximus Nickus
01-02-02, 06:57 PM
If you want to know how to do the Mosfet mods (If you aren't forgive me!) its on the front page of this thread.
Doc hasn't replied for a while because he's on holiday (I'm 95% sure) if you're wondering.
Happy New Year
ok, i'm ticked off!
can't get the voltmod kit from moddepot sent to Aus!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Christoph
01-05-02, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by Dracko
ok, i'm ticked off!
can't get the voltmod kit from moddepot sent to Aus!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Sorry. Try the top of this page, though for the clips (if you haven't already tried that).
Welcome anyway!!
Originally posted by Dracko
ok, i'm ticked off!
can't get the voltmod kit from moddepot sent to Aus!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Hey Dracko...
Present from Sydney.....:D
Click Me (http://www.rs-components.com.au/)
Then select from the left menu....online catalogue....then select Connectors - Terminals/test Leads
I'm happy now!
i'm getting Tom Leufken to order me one and put it in with a order i am getting from him :D :D :D
/me is very happy now!
Originally posted by mujgy
why does everyone complain about soldering i feel much safer with solder then a clip but hey whatever floats your boat
i also have done mods to playstations so thats so tiny work real tiny:cool:
I think the best part about the clips, it's not permanent!
That's cool about you PS!:) What did you do?
wild_andy_c
01-10-02, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by JAWS
I think the best part about the clips, it's not permanent!
That's cool about you PS!:) What did you do?
Solder's not permanent in the right hands either !
Originally posted by wild_andy_c
Solder's not permanent in the right hands either !
What do you mean? I agree the feeling I had after I solder my first board was intense! I felt like I could climb Mt Everest! LOL! (yeah right) For me soldering was very time consuming! I had my volt mod finished (with the clips) in about 10 minutes!
Hey Doc,
Any reason these mods would not work on an Intel board. I am jumping over to the Northwood, and apparently some boards restrict the Vcore you can deliver to a Northwood chip to 1.65 Vcore (1.5 is stock).
Do you know if say the Abit TH7II or the Asus P4T-E can be modded using a pomona grabber. I don't have the board yet, and don't know the IC chip number. But I bet its the similar to the Abit and Asus AMD boards.
Any thoughts??
wild_andy_c
01-11-02, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by skrill
Hey Doc,
Any reason these mods would not work on an Intel board. I am jumping over to the Northwood, and apparently some boards restrict the Vcore you can deliver to a Northwood chip to 1.65 Vcore (1.5 is stock).
Do you know if say the Abit TH7II or the Asus P4T-E can be modded using a pomona grabber. I don't have the board yet, and don't know the IC chip number. But I bet its the similar to the Abit and Asus AMD boards.
Any thoughts??
Don't do it - steer clear of RAMBUS - go i845D, SiS645 or VIAP4X266
Originally posted by skrill
Hey Doc,
Any reason these mods would not work on an Intel board. I am jumping over to the Northwood, and apparently some boards restrict the Vcore you can deliver to a Northwood chip to 1.65 Vcore (1.5 is stock).
Do you know if say the Abit TH7II or the Asus P4T-E can be modded using a pomona grabber. I don't have the board yet, and don't know the IC chip number. But I bet its the similar to the Abit and Asus AMD boards.
Any thoughts??
I see no reason why not.
I haven't run an Intel in awhile, but I'm sure that a voltage controller, is a voltage controller, and wouldn't be surprised if they are the same, or similar ones that are used for AMD's.
I would post your question in the "Intel Mobo" forum just to be sure, though.....
Doc
wild_andy_c
01-11-02, 02:50 PM
I'll confirm it is just as easy. In a lot of cases they use the same V.Regs. The OnSemi ones are very popular - particularly the 3-phase ones on the P4 boards.
I am somewhat relunctant to try the Rambus road -- but the TH7II supposedly gets to 133 fsb pretty easily with some pretty sick memory bandwidth. And I hear that recent Samsung Rambus has been yielding chips capable of PC1066.
The limiting factor is that with a Northwood plugged in the board is limited to 1.625 Vcore (with a Willy chip it will go up to 2.2 Vcore -- the the board is capable, its just bios restricted).
I am leaning toward the SiS645 but ...
1. The Abit solution is not yet vailable, and I am a huge fanboy of Abit (the fixed PCI/AGP settings on the TH7II and BD7 is way awesome -- as is the BD7's four-phase power supply). Info on Abits SD7 is nowhere to be found.
2. Good PC2700 (like Corsair) is still way expensive (like $150 for 256MB -- I like to run 512MB).
BTW, I have now confirmed that the TH7II uses the exact same Hip chip as the KR7A and KG7. I wonder of the Vmem chip is the same??
wild_andy_c
01-12-02, 12:46 AM
I've seen the EPoX 4SDA around - it's the joint Award Winner (ixbt.com/digit-life/ocworkbench) for the P4 platform based on its overclocking prowess.
I built a system based on one last week for a client and I had a quick tinker before I put it back to normal and easily acheived 133MHz FSB on Northwood 2.0A with a Vantec Heat Step.
A review can be found at http://www.tbreak.com/hard/mobo/epox_4sda+/page1.html
SeigeAkicksass
01-13-02, 11:32 PM
i have the soyo dragon plus and i heard that the corev mod was the same as the AK31 (linked to here (http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/Shuttle/AK3x/) ) so i wanted to see if the mem v modois the same as that board if now what is it tha sam as?
thanks:D
im not sure if that link worked
SeigeAkicksass
01-13-02, 11:54 PM
ooooo look it did work!!!:D :D :D :D :D
it said i put too many happy faces:(
oh well um also is it the same for the vio mod?
Jester1
01-14-02, 08:06 PM
what about a voltage mod for Soltek SL 75DRV2 ? :D
Originally posted by Jester1
what about a voltage mod for Soltek SL 75DRV2 ? :D
I'm sorry to say that I have not seen a volt mod for this board, but if you can tell me what kind of voltage controller IC it has, I can probably work one up for ya.
Normally, they look like the picture, below. They are usually located near the CPU, and mofsets.
It will look similar to the picture, below.
Lemme know,
Doc
wild_andy_c
01-16-02, 04:16 PM
Just looking at that HIPS 6301 - not a patch on the CS5301 or 5303 for stability.
Dissolved
01-17-02, 04:37 AM
hey doctor?
do you think you could get me a more detailed way to voltmod my 7dxr?
the germen site isnt too detailed.. and im still a lil lost..
thanks..
Originally posted by Dissolved
hey doctor?
do you think you could get me a more detailed way to voltmod my 7dxr?
the germen site isnt too detailed.. and im still a lil lost..
thanks..
Sure thing, here's one (http://www.amdmb.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56261) in English.
It appeares to be exactly the same as the one that I wrote for the Shuttel AK31 here. (http://www.overclockers.com/tips704/)
Good luck,
:)
Doc
I will ask this as well in the Intel Mobo section -- but I doubt they are hardcore enought to know.
I am setting up an Intel system for the first time since I started O/C'ing. I got a nice Northwood chip and an Abit TH7II-Raid board and 2x 256 MB of Samsung RDRAM (I got an amazing deal from a guy in desparate need of money to redo his hardwood floors).
OK, now the questions.
I have examined the board carefully and located the HIP6301CB chip (for Vcore mod) and HIP6521CB chip for Vmem mod. These are exactly the same chips as on my KR7A.
1. Currently the TH7II limits Northwoods to 1.625 Vcore (lame -- Willy chips can go up to 2.1 Vcore). I plan to use my pomona grabber mods to up that Vcore -- I don't see that there will be any problem assuming adequate cooling (in this case watercooling). Do you guys forsee any trouble??
2. I know that RDRAM can kind of suck in that it may limit an overclock. Nevertheless, I was thinking of doing Vmem mod -- will Rambus RAM respond to upping the voltage in the same way DDR does -- i.e., it is able to attain higher O/C? I have never heard of anyone overvolting Rambus and I here it can run hot at stock speed. Am I asking for trouble???
Thanks for any input.
Originally posted by skrill
I have examined the board carefully and located the HIP6301CB chip (for Vcore mod) and HIP6521CB chip for Vmem mod. These are exactly the same chips as on my KR7A.
1. Currently the TH7II limits Northwoods to 1.625 Vcore (lame -- Willy chips can go up to 2.1 Vcore). I plan to use my pomona grabber mods to up that Vcore -- I don't see that there will be any problem assuming adequate cooling (in this case watercooling). Do you guys forsee any trouble??
I's been awhile since I've ventured over to the dark side, but in my opinion, it should work the same. Grabber to pin #7 to Pot, to ground........
If you read this thread (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/cpu/northwood2200/ln2/index.phtml), they put over 2.1V-VCore to a Northwood, but it was supercooled using LN2.
Weather the Northwood will take the execess voltage with "conventional" cooling is another question, but, after all, isn't that why we're here?
:eek:
2. I know that RDRAM can kind of suck in that it may limit an overclock. Nevertheless, I was thinking of doing Vmem mod -- will Rambus RAM respond to upping the voltage in the same way DDR does -- i.e., it is able to attain higher O/C? I have never heard of anyone overvolting Rambus and I here it can run hot at stock speed. Am I asking for trouble???
Again, I've never tried it, but if you don't, how will you/we ever know??? :)
Please keep us apprised as to what your results are......
:)
Doc
At stock 1.5v the Northwood puts out about 40w of heat. I bet that at even 2.1v its putting out less that 100w -- which, as well all know is still well less than the current Palamino.
I will let you guys know how it goes.
Thanks for the input Doc.
I need to get my Vapo up and running. (Long Story: but I bought it from a kid for $400 (only paid $60 up front) and Fed-Ex busted up the case. But the cooling apparatus still works fine -- so, either Fed-Ex pays the insurance and I get a new Vapo, or I will keep the apparatus (pay maybe $40 more for it = $100 total), and put the apparatus in an Lian-Li PC71 -- now that would kick). Until I find out what happes, I am sticking with my watercooling solution.
wild_andy_c
01-17-02, 03:24 PM
Yes RIMMS do like voltage but only a little. DDR is the way on P4 though I still have my heart there after building that 4SDA the other week.
Dissolved
01-17-02, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Doctor
Sure thing, here's one (http://www.amdmb.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56261) in English.
It appeares to be exactly the same as the one that I wrote for the Shuttel AK31 here. (http://www.overclockers.com/tips704/)
Good luck,
:)
Doc
that amdmb one one one pic is showing.. im rather lost..
is there a way i could do it w/o solder? :confused:
Here is an update on my progress with the Northwood 2.2 and an Abit TH7II-R.
I rigged up the pomona grabber to the 7 pin on the Hip 6301. As we suspected lowering the resistance resulted in a raise of the Vcore. I set the bios to 1.4Vcore and booted into bios (amazing a 2.2 ghz chip @ 1.4Vcore.) I then upped the Vcore to 1.5Vcore actual. So far so good. I then set the bios to 1.3Vcore -- booted and PC Health screen showed 1.4Vcore. Not surprising. I slowly turned the pot and got back up to 1.5 Vcore -- this would amount to a 0.2 Vcore increase -- for 1.825 at max.
I then set bios to 1.2 Vcore, booted. PC Health showed 1.4Vcore. I turned the pot slowly and Bios froze. Damn!!
So backed it down and rebooted and got the annoying alarm. I had to clear Cmos to kill the alarm. After that everthing was fine -- no damage.
Now my question. The only other board I ever volt-modded was the Abit KR7A -- which used the same Voltage IC -- and only required a mod on the 7 pin. I understand that a mod was required on the 10 pin as well for the KG7 (again it uses the same mod chip).
I am wondering, did the KG7 do the same thing if you tried to take the voltage too high without doing the 10 pin mod?? If I do the 10 Pin mod -- how far to I turn the pot?? I will I know when I have turned it enough. (As I understand the 10 pin mod only increases the head room before the voltage regulator kicks in).
Let me know your thoughts. Thanks.
BTW, as I suspected, no one in the Intel forum is hardcore enough to actually try these mods -- no one has responded to my questions.
Thanks.
You are correct Sir!
By doing the Pin 10 mod 0n the HIP 6301, it allows you to get higher overall VCore to the CPU.
All mobo's are different as to weather you need to mod the Pin 10, or not.
On my Shuttle, which uses the same HIP 6301 VR, I can get up to 2.3v+ without the Pin 10 mod.
Nice work!
:)
Doc
Hey Doc, I tried doing this (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58333) but as you can see (if you read near the bottom of page 1 / top of page 2) I can't get the wire on the "stump" of the mosfets. Do you know of anything like a pamona grabber that will clamp around the whole body of the transistor to hold the connection solid?? If not have you any suggestions?
Originally posted by eobard
Hey Doc, I tried doing this (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58333) but as you can see (if you read near the bottom of page 1 / top of page 2) I can't get the wire on the "stump" of the mosfets. Do you know of anything like a pamona grabber that will clamp around the whole body of the transistor to hold the connection solid?? If not have you any suggestions?
I think that in the interest of trying to reduce resistance the best thing to do. would be to solder the connection.
However, I did try a Pomona Grabber on the Mofesets on my Asus P3V4X, and it clamps on pretty tight, since the legs are so large.
Good luck!
:)
Doc
Update Doc,
Volt mod worked great on the Abit TH7II-R. I am now getting 1.6 Vcore with the bios set at 1.3 Vcore. That means at a setting for 1.625 Vcore (highest in bios for a Northwood) -- I will achieve a healthy 1.925 Vcore (should be plenty for a run at 3 ghz).
Right now I am waiting on my S478 holddown from DD so I can fit my Maze 2.1 to the board. (Right now I am using Cooler Master -- air cooling blows, literally).
Anyway, chalk up the Abit TH7II-R as one of the many fully modable boards (although you only really need to do it if you have a Northwood).
BTW, I think that modding the Pin 10 on the HIP chip is unnecessary. I did it -- but I never moved the pot. I appears that my process of dialing in the voltage was causing the lock-up.
Seems if you set the Bios to less than 1.3 Vcore the board will just lock and go into alarm mode. It seem the phenomena is totally independant of the voltage actually being pumped to the chip.
I am sitting here at 1.6 Vcore -- at 2.5 ghz fully stable through 18 hours of Prime. In fact I am running torture test while I type this message and listen to a U2 MP3 on Windows Media Player. No skips, no hangs, no errors.
I think I am going to like the dark side.
Originally posted by skrill
I think I am going to like the dark side.
LOL, just don't stay there!
Congratulations!
:)
Doc
Sworkhard
01-22-02, 10:46 PM
Anybody have a volt mod for a Soltek Sl75 Drv2?
Originally posted by Stephen de Kok
Anybody have a volt mod for a Soltek Sl75 Drv2?
If you can find the Voltage Controller IC on it, I will try to work one up 4U.
Take a LQQK at some of the other mods PPL have done, so you know what they are.
Lemme know,
:)
Doc
Sworkhard
01-23-02, 06:44 PM
what about this one??
http://www.awars.com/pics/moddoc.doc/
Dissolved
01-23-02, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Stephen de Kok
what about this one??
http://www.awars.com/pics/moddoc.doc/
link doesnt work for me... :(
Sworkhard
01-23-02, 07:24 PM
20 minutes ago it worked but now it doesn't anymore:(
Sworkhard
01-23-02, 07:27 PM
Try this one. I hope it works
http://www.awars.com/pics/moddoc.doc
Dissolved
01-23-02, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Stephen de Kok
20 minutes ago it worked but now it doesn't anymore:(
heres that thread u got it from, maybe it'll work, it probly got over loaded..
http://www.awars.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=258&highlight=soltek
Dissolved
01-23-02, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Dissolved
heres that thread u got it from, maybe it'll work, it probly got over loaded..
http://www.awars.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=258&highlight=soltek
try here...
http://www.amdmb.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92714
it states its the same as an abit voltmod :)
hope this helps
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