Do Not! buy pc ice!!!!

[knightwolf6543]

well I'll just give u the story. i wake up this morning and turn on my computer(like always) i run to use the restroom when i come to find that my computer is frozen (this has never happened)
so i restart it and the screen doesn't even some on, so I'm thinking o maybe my screen gave out. then to my surprise i look over to find 1 drop of PC ice coolent had landed on my video card, so i was like nah that cant be it this stuff is non conductive, then after testing the card in another computer i found that it is conductive and my nice video card is now dead :bang head . i am going to go complain to PC ice about this liquid of theres. and see what they have to see about this.
as for no i have not the $$ to dish out to switch to pci-e so i am watching eBay for a new/ used 6800 gt

and vaio if ya read this i know u are going to be getting this PC ice crap, please for the love of cheese and the love of Ur computer, return it!!!!

[ziggo0]

Wow sorry to hear for your loss man, I'd be crying if my 7800GTX got owned by a *drop* of water. Why don't you grab yourself a 6800GS? pretty much the same as a 6800GT, slightly 'slower' (not much).

[Yuriman]

Are you sure its dead? I once spilled a about a liter of sweet tea into the the top blowhole in my pc, and it coated everything. An alcohol bath fixed it.

[Rysjimmy1994]

Damn... I was going to buy that stuff to... I dont wanna cook my X1800 because of a leak. Has anybody else had any problems with this stuff?

[knightwolf6543]

was the power on when u spilled the tea?

[Super Nade]

Wow sorry to hear for your loss man, I'd be crying if my 7800GTX got owned by a *drop* of water. Why don't you grab yourself a 6800GS? pretty much the same as a 6800GT, slightly 'slower' (not much).

Hey hey! The GS kills the GT (PCI-E)! Pretty sorry to hear that man. If they don't buy you a new VC, I would recommend recording a short video with a 9v battery, two wires and a Multi-meter. Put it up on your website and inform peolpe in other forums as well.

Its highly unlikely they will give you a new VC, as it would mean severe loss of face and massive recalls. Anyhow, call them and see what happens. Good Luck!

*Test results were in a temperature control environment and are averages. PrimoChill does not guarantee that you will have the same results.

[White Runner]

Did you find where the leak was coming from?

[knightwolf6543]

yeah its coming from my storm block but i am gunna try and get this card working or something if not i will find the leak and fix it.

[citronym]

Non conductive coolant is only non-conductive untill you put it into a loop with metal.

[Haste266]

all the reviews I read about pc ice did say it is slightly conductive. did u not read any reviews before buying it?

im using PC ICE in my system mostly because I didn't want to use any harmful chemicals(aka antifreeze) in my system.

[knightwolf6543]

well it is offical the card is dead :cry: but i have a 6800 coming on its way.
i did read a review on pc ice i dident read anything on it being partly conductive, i say if u say non-conductive it should be NON-Conductive!
i go argue with the pc ice people now.

[Aidenswarrior]

there is no point in arguing with them... it was your mistake, not theirs. I dont think anything exists that stays 100% nonconductive all the time. and as the other guy said, when stuff is mixed with metal, it becomes conductive. So, when it is sitting in the plastic container it comes in, it may not be conductive, but once you introduce it to your loop, then it has a chance to become so. Also, you should have your loop secure enough that it wont leak. Those liquids are not a guarentee for something to not short out. They are just a little more sercurity, but not much. Were you using clamps on each connection in your loop? were the hoses securely tight? did you leak test the loop for 24 hours prior to turning your computer on? there are many factors that determine YOUR mistake. not the companies.

[blkdiamond]

there is no point in arguing with them... it was your mistake, not theirs. I dont think anything exists that stays 100% nonconductive all the time. and as the other guy said, when stuff is mixed with metal, it becomes conductive. So, when it is sitting in the plastic container it comes in, it may not be conductive, but once you introduce it to your loop, then it has a chance to become so. Also, you should have your loop secure enough that it wont leak. Those liquids are not a guarentee for something to not short out. They are just a little more sercurity, but not much. Were you using clamps on each connection in your loop? were the hoses securely tight? did you leak test the loop for 24 hours prior to turning your computer on? there are many factors that determine YOUR mistake. not the companies.

I agree, unfortunately a lot of the responsibility does lie with you.

[knightwolf6543]

true, but the leak was no coming throw any of the barbs its coming from between the two top plats on the storm block, it took two months for one little drop to come out, the leak is that slow,i did leak test it for 48 hours, and all was fine. i am going to do some test with the left over coolent in the bottle and i will perforum the same tests on the coolent from inside the loop. i highly doubt that the coolent would turn conductive after be introduced to the loop, if so i would be dead right now. plus i have been reachering water cooling for two years before i had enough money to buy a kit, i cheaked everything and did everything i could to make sure it would not leak, and it dident when i tested it.

[Perium]

Thats truly sucks, do the storm blocks have a tendancy to leak?

[Fighter2a]

Thats truly sucks, do the storm blocks have a tendancy to leak?

no

[Vaio]

That sucks :( I know you'll get it going again ASAP.

[citronym]

do the storm blocks have a tendancy to leak?
People have a tendancy to to improperly apply tubing or fail to tighten barbs suffciently.

[knightwolf6543]

like me said the leak is so small it took 2 months for 1 drop, toomarow i am going to drain the system and cheak out the storm block to see whats up.

[citronym]

Are you positive some other happening didn't deposit that drop of coolant? A leak so slow it takes 2 months for a drop I think would have evaporated before that drop came along (which isn't uncommon).

It's always possible, I was just curious.

[Vaio]

I did a quick search, and it seems that it is possible you MAY have inverted the middle plate thing, and messed up the seal, but if it took this long to leak, I kinda doubt it.

Good luck with it!

[eric003]

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[skou]

Eric, if you weren't aware, you can't advertise here. You can get in some REAL trouble for it.

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[knightwolf6543]

well i started the leak test and it will leak test until i get my new vid card, so far so good no leaks, i double cheaked all my connections to make sure they are all secure.

[speed bump]

Thats pretty crazy I know I leaked some distilled water/antifreeze on to my 6800nu and I cleaned it off after a few minutes. The card still worked however I came home and it my computer was beeping. Turned out that my substance was conductive and shorted out the tweeter on my video card. So after some alchohal cleaning it works perfectly again.

[Yuriman]

was the power on when u spilled the tea?

Yes, it was. I was playing a game, and I went to adjust the blanket I had over the window, and I knocked my tea over. There were some very interesting colors on the monitor for a few seconds, and then it went black.

[=ACID RAIN=]

well I'll just give u the story. i wake up this morning and turn on my computer(like always) i run to use the restroom when i come to find that my computer is frozen (this has never happened)
so i restart it and the screen doesn't even some on, so I'm thinking o maybe my screen gave out. then to my surprise i look over to find 1 drop of PC ice coolent had landed on my video card, so i was like nah that cant be it this stuff is non conductive, then after testing the card in another computer i found that it is conductive and my nice video card is now dead :bang head . i am going to go complain to PC ice about this liquid of theres. and see what they have to see about this.
as for no i have not the $$ to dish out to switch to pci-e so i am watching eBay for a new/ used 6800 gt

and vaio if ya read this i know u are going to be getting this PC ice crap, please for the love of cheese and the love of Ur computer, return it!!!!
Anytime you subject a water-based liquid to metal, it will pick up ions. Pure liquid may not short, but expose it for a little while and it will. This is a given.

PC Ice as I understand is a preventative measure, not a sure-fire method to allow for crappy installations. Given that, you can only blame yourself. Remember, you're pumping water through a computer man. That in itself is odd enough, but then you want to blame the fluid? So I should blame aquafina if my system leaks and I hose my video card? Think rationally. There is little if any warranty for nearly everything that we do.

When you're comfortable enough that you don't have to rely on additives to keep things alive, then you should watercool expensive equipment. In the meantime, live and learn. If you kill something high-end, you learned, but it just cost more.

[FudgeNuggets]

Dang, I was considering going liquid cooling when I get my X2 so that I could get as noise free as possible but this is giving me the willies. I don't want to toast a $300+CPU or go through the hassel of swapping a mobo if the thing drips or gets some condensation. How common is this?

[Wicked Klown]

Maybe at most 3% will have a leak of some kind. However not all leaks kill things. Just be carefull, leak test for 24 to 48 hours before tunring the rig on.

[=ACID RAIN=]

Dang, I was considering going liquid cooling when I get my X2 so that I could get as noise free as possible but this is giving me the willies. I don't want to toast a $300+CPU or go through the hassel of swapping a mobo if the thing drips or gets some condensation. How common is this?
Condensation doesn't happen unless you use exotic cooling like phase change, peltiers or chillers. Fill a cup with tap water and no ice, and set it on the table. Do you see condensation? What about in an hour? No? There you go. Room temp doesn't make condensation, and it never will.

Guys, watercooling fries things if done wrong. With every waterblock you buy that has layers or sections, disassemble it, get familiar with it, put it back together and leaktest it. When you trust that block enough that you'll fill it with water and stick it on a 300 dollar CPU, bolted to a 200 dollar motherboard, hanging above a 500 dollar video card, then you're ready. If you trust it right out of the box, you're a damn fool, and we all know the saying about a fool and his money :).

And when you're assembling the cooling, triple check the connections, and run it before you turn on the system. That's right, jumper your PSU to run alone or (on 120v AC pumps) plug it in and let it run for a while, checking for drips several times from every connection. Helps if you put a loose piece of paper under the blocks etc so you don't get everything else wet while you're checking leaks. Adding dye to the water really helps, for you glow-worm types, because you can really see if there is a leak. Use your UV light (you know you have one) and you'll see any drips or splashes real fast.

This is a fact of life in watercooling. If you're scared, don't do it until you have confidence.

[hung]

Yeah, I use Swiftech Hydrx and one time that stuff leaked all over my VGA slot and my PCI slots too, it was horrible, but good thing, it's not conductive.

You should always go with non-conductive coolant. I wasn't worried about leaks cause I knew that Hydrx wasn't conductive and so it wouldn't fry my crap if it leaked, and it did! =P

Did you try to contact the manufacturer for an RMA? Usually they're able to replace your card if it's defective. EVGA replaced my 6800U for free, Leadtek replaced my old a** FX5900XT for free, same for MSI.

Hope you get your card fixed, would be a waste =\

[knightwolf6543]

well the card is dead and the warranty expired. yes i have learned a lot after this experience, and mind u i was scared when i put this thing to gather. i was going to leak test it for a week, but eventually found all the leaks, fixed them, then tested it over night. i am a experienced person when it comes to this subject, maybe not when it comes to doing it but like i said i have been researching it for close to 2 years before actually getting a kit myself. now that i have the hands on experience i have now when it comes to put Vaio water cooling together, we can both work together to make sure that everything is leak free before turning the computer on.
but this is now day 3 of my leak test and so far so good not a drop has dripped from anywere :santa:

[Silversinksam]

Did you try to contact the manufacturer for an RMA? Usually they're able to replace your card if it's defective. EVGA replaced my 6800U for free, Leadtek replaced my old a** FX5900XT for free, same for MSI.



Are you kidding me? If someone fried a video card by voiding the warranty with an aftermarket cooler, then spills a fluid on the card, and your suggesting he try to RMA it to the manufacturer?
I got news for you, when you hit 100 posts and make it to our for sale section, believe me when I say I will be watching you. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/cleaver.gif


People have a tendancy to to improperly apply tubing or fail to tighten barbs suffciently.

To tight can cause equal mayhem if the clamps starts cutting into the hose itself ;)

Dang, I was considering going liquid cooling when I get my X2 so that I could get as noise free as possible but this is giving me the willies. I don't want to toast a $300+CPU or go through the hassel of swapping a mobo if the thing drips or gets some condensation. How common is this?

It's not common at all, I set up my h20 system several years ago and never once have I had any issues at all. My advise is to read all you can from guys like Hoot and Nihksub1 and others , leak test and check and recheck everything before you fire up your system. The key is to to do everything properly the first time and you shouldnt have any issues at all.

[skou]

Are you kidding me? If someone fried a video card by voiding the warranty with an aftermarket cooler, then spills a fluid on the card, and your suggesting he try to RMA it to the manufacturer?
I got news for you, when you hit 100 posts and make it to our for sale section, believe me when I say I will be watching you. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/cleaver.gif.

PERFECT CALL!!

Sam, I'm glad you're here!

steve

[Aidenswarrior]

Are you kidding me? If someone fried a video card by voiding the warranty with an aftermarket cooler, then spills a fluid on the card, and your suggesting he try to RMA it to the manufacturer?
I got news for you, when you hit 100 posts and make it to our for sale section, believe me when I say I will be watching you. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/cleaver.gif

i am sorry, but i have to do it...


http://www.p42.org/Nighthawk/owned.jpg

[knightwolf6543]

lol i still have a tear in my eye from that one (from laughter)
n/e way yeah i kinda knew that when the it got hit, i couldn't return it, plus the warranty expired a month ago.

[Flip-Mode]

Was it his fault? Yes but I still think that if the coolant is advertised as non-conductive it should be non-conductive like in the Hydrix case mentioned above.

[knightwolf6543]

well i would contact them but their web site is just a picture
http://primochill.com/

[Fferrett]

well i would contact them but their web site is just a picture
http://primochill.com/

Now that's funny.

I took some time to see if I could find a 'pi' symbol somewhere on the page.

[Haste266]

yo fferret, i found the "Pi" symbol...i woke up the next morning not remembering what the hell happened the night before...i advise every1 to please stay away from Pi! it will drive u crazy.


yo knightwolf... contact primochill here (http://www.primochill.com/index.php?action=contact_us)