View Full Version : it will finish defregmenting when i grow old
casanovalui
11-05-01, 01:00 PM
actually my question is
let say i had defrag my HDD to 70%
and then stop and goto eat
later come back and start defrag all over again
will it defrag faster since just now i had defreag to 70%
gezzzz any experience from u guys out there?
yes, it will keep most the work already done: still better if using nt file system (NTFS).
Depends in WIN ME the answer is yes but in 98 it starts all over again. why not let it work while u eat? i let mine work while i'm at school.
try booting to safe mode and do a defrag that way- it will go sooooo much faster and smoother, with no time lost to restarts. Takes me more than a day to do it under windows, less than 3 hours in safe mode.
:D
casanovalui
11-05-01, 08:43 PM
huh? what is NTFS???
well i never tried defrag in safe mode b4
even it it works, but why?
won't the date would be just the same
no matter u boot in same or normal mode?
No, he means that in safe mode, it will defrag faster because it dosen't restart as often due to open background programs. Of course, I just shut everything off rather than getting into safe mode. Can't stand 16 colors! Yes, in windows, if you stop your defrag and then restart it, it will restart. However, because it has already been optimized, it sees it as such, and unless there are a few minor holes in there for some reason it will pass it in no time at all.
JigPu
NTFS is a partition for your hard drive..
The windows 9x uses FAT32 partition while the Win NT Platform have an option of NTFS or FAT32...
NTFS is sort of better in ways because it has better secruity options and such..
Why not just leave the defragment going on over night? heh
casanovalui
11-06-01, 03:22 AM
why i don't let it defrag while i eat or sleep
well that's not really the problem
coz some people(i half half believe) believe
that defragmenting ur HDD will cause bad sector
while it also generates lots of heat on the HDD
there for i shut it down after running 4 a long time:rolleyes:
Originally posted by casanovalui
why i don't let it defrag while i eat or sleep
well that's not really the problem
coz some people(i half half believe) believe
that defragmenting ur HDD will cause bad sector
while it also generates lots of heat on the HDD
there for i shut it down after running 4 a long time:rolleyes:
Hmmm where do you get that information? Defragmenting your hard drive puts all those clustered files back into place.
The hard drive doesn't get THAT hot.. and if it did I don't think hard drive just burn out on you... They usually burn out due to just time .
Violator
11-06-01, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Yodums
Hmmm where do you get that information? Defragmenting your hard drive puts all those clustered files back into place.
The hard drive doesn't get THAT hot.. and if it did I don't think hard drive just burn out on you... They usually burn out due to just time .
Heh if that was the case we wouldn't be able to run our pcs for more than a few minutes. HDDs get up to speed real quick and start producing heat. They are designed to work fast and work hard (good quality ones anyway) without generating so much heat that it becomes damaging to the drive. Defragging a defective drive may well push it over the limit but this is not a fault of the defrag process.
casanovalui
11-06-01, 09:07 AM
i think we cannot compare the what the HDD does when
defragmenting or running usually programme
coz when running usuall programme
you will find that the HDD only read once a while
usually it's the processor or CD-rom what's running all
the time. Unless u are doing things like rendering/compressing.
Sooo when defragmenting HDD, it runs hotter compare to
other time such as just running the OS or Words
There for when u are defragmenting the HDD let say it
takes 6hrs (believe me it happened b4) :eek: i think it ouch' the HDD
Well about defragmenting cause bad sector, it's just experience
from some other users:rolleyes:
I believe that a harddrive keeps a minimum speed rotation at all time except for when shut off. Often this speed is the max speed that the hardrive rotates at. So it shouldn't be a problem to leave the drive running over lunch or overnight.
I am lost,,,,,,, all day to defrag is way to long LMAO,,,I wonder if the system U have is like 8mhz or maby 10 ???
Or maby u have raid with 2, 80 gig drives full with stuff ??
How in the world can a defrag take all day.even 3 hours seems like way to long..Maby you ran system for a year and never defraged ???
Not trying to be an ass but the comments of all day and 3 hours seem assinine.....I suggest no defrag till next system up grade if it takes a day to do,at that pace new technology will out pace your defrag LMAO,
Well, it cirtanly dosen't take me a day to defrag, but a good 3 hours it right on the money. I don't defrag regulary (I'm sure this would decrease the time it takes), but I do it every 2 or 3 months. The more data you have, the longer it takes. I'm only using 6GB right now, and my only guess to why it takes so long is that my drive might be 5400RPM.... Dunno for sure, cuz it's not something I built myself...
JigPu
Softwebdev
11-07-01, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by casanovalui
actually my question is
let say i had defrag my HDD to 70%
and then stop and goto eat
later come back and start defrag all over again
will it defrag faster since just now i had defreag to 70%
gezzzz any experience from u guys out there?
get diskeeper to defrag your drive....this thing is so fast and effective that you will be suprised
Originally posted by Softwebdev
get diskeeper to defrag your drive....this thing is so fast and effective that you will be suprised
Is it a freeware?
Whoa just downloaded the evaluation and I just defragged ago with the Windows XP defrager and it says only 67% is defragged!
So much for that I'm guessing this thing is a really effective program I highly recommend it!
Softwebdev
11-07-01, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Yodums
Is it a freeware?
nope....but it's worth every dollar you spent on it...trust me...it's fast and easy to use..it's number 1 defragment tool in the world
casanovalui
11-07-01, 09:08 PM
is disckeeper compatible with win 98??
but any way i will try it
Yes it compatible with any operating system.
Originally posted by Yodums
Yes it compatible with any operating system. \
Even what runs my C-64?!?! WOW! That's some serious program!!!!!! j/k
How much faster is it than what runs in 98?? It takes about 3 hours as I stated, and I was wondering if it would significantly lower my times....
JigPu
Well it's alot faster as long as ALOT MORE EFFICENT..
Windows may do the job but not as good as other programs since they aren't as efficent.
Talk about speed I did it under 15mins!
I went from 67% heavily fragmented to 100% in like 15mins!
Softwebdev
11-08-01, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Yodums
Talk about speed I did it under 15mins!
I went from 67% heavily fragmented to 100% in like 15mins!
see i told you...DISKEEPER is gooD...i have been using it for more than 6 years....love it.....everything in windows is the toy of the children......
casanovalui
11-08-01, 09:35 PM
ok i had tried diskeeper
i took 20mins to defrag a 2.5gb HDD (a partition)
for me that is consider faster already
but 2 days ago i had defrag the HDD without using it
sooo it might be faster ONLY BECAUSE i had defrag it b4
Anyway i will just take that diskeeper is faster so that at least i had found a resorte for my problem :)
but i have only question, what is swap file? Isn't it somekind of temporally file? Doesn't the swap file should be deleted by diskeeper when defragmenting it?:D
asmodean
11-09-01, 12:47 AM
I think people usually have permanent swap files, so no, it most certainly shouldn't be deleted.
If I recall correctly, the Windows built-in defragmenter does not defragment the swapfile at all. Can't remember if Diskeeper does, either, since it doesn't work for me (messed up partitions).
Anyway, disable swapping, reboot and then delete the swapfile. After that, defragment the hard-drive it was on and enable swapping. That will definitely speed up the computer (when swapping) if the swapfile was fragmented, since the HDD doesn't have to spend so much time seeking back & forth.
As for defragmenting causing bad sectors... Any newer hard-drive that gets bad sectors nowadays is faulty. It was a problem long time ago, but shouldn't be anymore. I'd get a refund if my new drive would get bad sectors.
Softwebdev
11-09-01, 01:25 AM
DISKEEPER rules
oc jason
11-09-01, 01:50 PM
are your HDD's that bad, ifd so u need to set it to defrag every day, i defrag my 60 gig in liees than 10 minutes. IT should not take that long, just in case u dont think i am defraggin correctly
casanovalui
11-09-01, 02:11 PM
mmmm i guess maybe your 60gb HDD was defragted so fast
because its 73% empty and your cpu is 1.530ghz
u wanna guess my cpu speed? it's 0.333ghz
oc jason
11-09-01, 11:21 PM
lol that can have a little to do with it, just let it go overnight
Softwebdev
11-10-01, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by casanovalui
mmmm i guess maybe your 60gb HDD was defragted so fast
because its 73% empty and your cpu is 1.530ghz
u wanna guess my cpu speed? it's 0.333ghz
it is still fast and handle most of the work.........you want to do...........
casanovalui
11-10-01, 03:52 AM
yeah, at here ppl don't upgrade their pc as regular as u guys
lots of antique pc here. That for my 0.333ghz cpu is going to survive for another 1 or 2 years. Don't believe it? That's the fact.
My friend defragged his win9x with the defrag tool from winME...it worked hella fast...
casanovalui
11-10-01, 02:23 PM
does it works on Win98?
coz sometimes, programmes from WinME does work in Win98
for example is the Window Media Player (the edition in ME) work on Win98
asmodean
11-10-01, 02:24 PM
The WinME defragger got a serious speed boost, when compared to the 95 one... When I was using 95, it took hours to defrag 4gb! And I had just defragged last week, lol
Bmxpunk86pl
11-10-01, 03:29 PM
wow its takes you guys that long to defragment a hd?
Originally posted by casanovalui
does it works on Win98?
coz sometimes, programmes from WinME does work in Win98
for example is the Window Media Player (the edition in ME) work on Win98
Yes, he told me that it worked well on win95, 98 and 98se...I saw it with my own eyes..just zipped right through the drive...unreal fast.
Wicked Klown
11-11-01, 04:05 PM
I agree with [OC] Jason I can defrag my 60 gig and 20 gig in a small amount of time. something doesn't seem right.
I use Norton to dfrag my drive and it seems to work pretty well. 20 gig usually in about 10 min. It optimizes your swap file too. Anyone have a problem with it or do not trust it?
asmodean
11-12-01, 01:31 AM
I think most third party defragmenters are better than the Microsoft supplied ones... Faster & more options.
Enemy Down!
04-05-03, 12:38 PM
interesting. i am now eager to try diskeeper.
but my scsi defrags at a rate of over 1 gig of data per minute using windows defragment. my 18 gig scsi is 50% full, and visually inspecting the red lines (which means defragmented files) i see that half the data is in the red. it takes me under 5 minutes to defrag.
so since i have the speed, should i still get a third party defragment software? any features that 3rd party defraggers offer which is worth paying for?
WyrmMaster
04-06-03, 03:02 PM
it doesnt take too long to defrag my drive, but i do it in sections (partitions) and about every week, so it keeps it pretty well organized.
UnWishedLegacy
04-06-03, 03:26 PM
The Defrag takes about 20mins with the basic Win ME Defrag tool (DiskKeeper had issues with some of my games, had to disable it every time I booted).
But (on a similar subject)- whats the average time that ScanDisk takes to run it course? I've got a 60gig HD but am only using about 7.5gig of it.
It takes best part of 5hours- even in DOS and SafeMode.
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