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james111
03-06-06, 11:24 PM
I've narrowed it down to these two blocks for my naked a64 chip.
I was thinking about getting the mcw6000, but realized that I would have to shave the whole cam block for it to fit. (http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3707/camblk3kt.jpg)

I was thinking of the Apogee because I like the way it looks :), comes with 3/8" fittings (which is what my system will be), and it performs great. (from what users have told me). The bad thing is that I would still have to shave a little bit of the cam block for it to fit evenly.

Now the TDX seems good, mainly because it can fit without shaving anything. (http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9591/wc1204gs.jpg)
I'm not sure how it performs against the Apogee though....

So it's now between the TDX or Apogee, which one should I get :confused:
btw, how restrictive is the TDX? I want a low flow system.

Aidenswarrior
03-07-06, 12:08 AM
if you have a naked chip, look into spending a couple more bucks and get the storm.

Otter
03-07-06, 12:18 AM
Another thing to consider is which block has the best mounting system. With the shield off your CPU, you want to be sure you can get the block on gently and evenly.

For performance, I'd go with the TDX. Look at this graph of C/W vs Flow: http://www.systemcooling.com/images/reviews/LiquidCooling/Swiftech_Apogee/image26big.gif
Considering that the Apogee is a high flow block, it shouldn't be lagging behind the field in this test -- at least not if you're going to put it in a high performance system. Unfortunately, Systemcooling hasn't tested the TDX, but the RBX easily beats the apogee.

C/W vs Hydraulic Power doesn't show the Apogee to be a high performance block either.
http://www.systemcooling.com/images/reviews/LiquidCooling/Swiftech_Apogee/image27big.gif

(Both graphs above are from this article: http://www.systemcooling.com/swiftech_apogee-01.html)

Yes, the Apogee gives similar CPU temp readings to better performing blocks, but this may be simply because the CPU thermal sensor is too far from the hottest part of the chip to measure the difference.

But if you care enough to take the IHS off, why not get the Storm? Yes, it's fairly restrictive, but at just over 1psi, it starts to leave the competition behind.
C/W vs. pressure drop http://www.systemcooling.com/images/reviews/LiquidCooling/Swiftech_Storm/image22big.gif
from this http://www.systemcooling.com/images/reviews/LiquidCooling/Swiftech_Storm/image22big.gifarticlehttp://systemcooling.com/swiftech_storm-10.html


btw, how restrictive is the TDX? I want a low flow system.
I'm not sure why you'd want low flow, but if you do, stay away from the Apogee. It is less restrictive than any of the current generation of CPU blocks and will allow more flow than anything you're likely to get except the old Maze4.

-aDaM^
03-07-06, 07:08 AM
Storm would be perfect.