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fuzzba11
11-05-01, 06:29 PM
Sigh...look what my GF3 gives me in Windows2k :(
edit: Anyone know how to fix this??
hyperbob
11-05-01, 08:25 PM
it might be overheating. open your case while your computer is on. Touch the heatsinks (core and ram sinks). Put your finger there as long as you can. If you can't keep it there for more than 6 sec then its too hot. if your ocing then put it back to normal. try different drivers too.
It_The_Cow
11-05-01, 08:48 PM
Stop overclocking it, or get better cooling. If it's not overclocked, RMA it. No card should get artifacts if not overclocked
Über~PhLuBB
11-05-01, 09:13 PM
Lyke HyperBob said, if you can hold your finger on 'em indefinately (They shouldn't ever get hot enough that you can't keep your finger on them forever, not just 6 seconds), then it's obviously too hot.
On the opposite end of the scale, of they're extremely cool, there's something wrong with your thermal material, and the RAM chips aren't getting their heat off completely (or at all).
Take both clock frequencies down to default and see if you still get that.
If you're using beta drivers, don't. Use WHQL certified, or at least a publicly available driver from www.nvidia.com .
fuzzba11
11-05-01, 09:30 PM
I think some water might have dripped on it from a peltier experiment gone wrong. Also, I can't change the resolution, with the Hercules drivers installed. While POSTing there are about 10 vertical red lines running down the screen, and the image is wavery. As soon as the Win2k screen hits the waving stops, and the red/pink lines turn to the green ones you see in the picture. I've used AS Epoxy on the HSF and ramsinks that came with it, does that void my warranty? Who would I return it to, anyway? I bought the card retail in Singapore(but I'm now in Colorado).
Who do I contact?
ps. Also, how do I reset the settings on the card? I changed them in the GF3 menu previously and now I don't have access to it. Also, when I try to change the resolution, it says "The display control panel is unable to change the display settings. The graphics driver returned an unexpected error." Also, SiSoft Sandra says my directx is expired, even though I've reinstalled it. I don't think a Windows reinstall will help, since I get the problem POSTing, too...
Über~PhLuBB
11-05-01, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by fuzzba11
I think some water might have dripped on it from a peltier experiment gone wrong. Also, I can't change the resolution, with the Hercules drivers installed. While POSTing there are about 10 vertical red lines running down the screen, and the image is wavery. As soon as the Win2k screen hits the waving stops, and the red/pink lines turn to the green ones you see in the picture. I've used AS Epoxy on the HSF and ramsinks that came with it, does that void my warranty? Who would I return it to, anyway? I bought the card retail in Singapore(but I'm now in Colorado).
Who do I contact?
ps. Also, how do I reset the settings on the card? I changed them in the GF3 menu previously and now I don't have access to it. Also, when I try to change the resolution, it says "The display control panel is unable to change the display settings. The graphics driver returned an unexpected error." Also, SiSoft Sandra says my directx is expired, even though I've reinstalled it. I don't think a Windows reinstall will help, since I get the problem POSTing, too...
Sounds like the water cause some permanent damage, perhaps a blown capaciter?
I don't know what to say. You could do the right thing and suck it up, purchasing a brand new one. Or you could do the wrong thing, and replace it by buying a new one, installing the brand new one, putting the broken one in the new one's box, then returning the broken one in the new one's place. Money back, new card, Hercules takes the cost. Do whatever your morals allow you to.
OK serveral things could have happened here..
The water has damaged the card or when you applied the Artic Silver Epoxy it went into the card.. see if your card has any thing on it if there is take a lint-free cloth put some alcohol on it and rub it off.
Since you modded it yes it does void your waranty and .. usually I wouldn't recommend buying stuff on other countries heh because if you have a problem it becomes a pain in the butt.
... See if you can get another card.. for your waranty. Do you still have the receipt call them.
Zuck Gou :)
11-05-01, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by PhLuBB
Sounds like the water cause some permanent damage, perhaps a blown capaciter?
I don't know what to say. You could do the right thing and suck it up, purchasing a brand new one. Or you could do the wrong thing, and replace it by buying a new one, installing the brand new one, putting the broken one in the new one's box, then returning the broken one in the new one's place. Money back, new card, Hercules takes the cost. Do whatever your morals allow you to.
You say its the wrong thing but you go in detail to explain how to do it.... :)
RangerJoe34
11-05-01, 10:36 PM
if you are not a complete moron you can figure out how to do something like this...so dont say he has done this in an indirect way goku
fuzzba11
11-05-01, 10:42 PM
I've ordered a Kyro 2 to last me through Christmas, then I'll be back in Singapore, try return the card...if that doesn't work, get a new one for Christmas or something :/
It wasn't the arctic silver, I'm sure of that, but I haven't cleaned it off with alcohol, yet. I'll get my hands on some and give that a try.
Newbie_Doo
11-06-01, 10:18 PM
One of my pet peeves is the advocacy of dishonesty with respect to returning products whose component failures are not warranty problems.
When we overclock something, watercool something, glue aftermarket HSFs to something, or whatever, we are violating the terms of the warranty and are not covered. To expect that a manufacturer, distributor, or vendor is somehow going to happily cover our butts when we screw up is unrealistic. To attempt to exchange a product the we broke not only puts the financial burden on those in the distribution chain, it costs all of us more in the end.
The honest thing to do is to suck up our losses and learn our lessons. Does it hurt to fry a GeForce3? You bet! Does it hurt everybody when that fried GF3 gets RMA'd? Absolutely. Especially when the vendor gets stuck with it as a refused RMA because it was obviously abused. Too many of these and the good vendors start selling flowers instead of computer components.
We all complain when we get poor service from a vendor. How come we don't complain when one of our overclocking buddies defrauds a vendor by exchanging a product he fried? How come we don't put the two things together and realize that service costs money and when we rip off our vendors, service suffers because good help is expensive?
Do the right thing.
Anthony
Originally posted by Newbie_Doo
One of my pet peeves is the advocacy of dishonesty with respect to returning products whose component failures are not warranty problems.
When we overclock something, watercool something, glue aftermarket HSFs to something, or whatever, we are violating the terms of the warranty and are not covered. To expect that a manufacturer, distributor, or vendor is somehow going to happily cover our butts when we screw up is unrealistic. To attempt to exchange a product the we broke not only puts the financial burden on those in the distribution chain, it costs all of us more in the end.
The honest thing to do is to suck up our losses and learn our lessons. Does it hurt to fry a GeForce3? You bet! Does it hurt everybody when that fried GF3 gets RMA'd? Absolutely. Especially when the vendor gets stuck with it as a refused RMA because it was obviously abused. Too many of these and the good vendors start selling flowers instead of computer components.
We all complain when we get poor service from a vendor. How come we don't complain when one of our overclocking buddies defrauds a vendor by exchanging a product he fried? How come we don't put the two things together and realize that service costs money and when we rip off our vendors, service suffers because good help is expensive?
Do the right thing.
Anthony
Sure it maybe the right thing but no ones lives through every rule of the books do they?
I mean you buy a card thats like 250 dollars USD and you bust it open... You'd really just sit there and react normal after breaking a really expensive card! I'd be wanting to get a new one ASAP maybe if it'd happen I would buy a new card.. I wouldn't use the waranty more than once if it's necessary!
BrianCapps
11-07-01, 11:47 PM
Remember- when you break somethin really expensive, you aren't thinking properly. All you are is ******ed and thinking "How am I going to replace/afford a new one?" The logical answer to this question when you are nothing but mad, is RMA it. I've thought about it a bunch of times, but never have RMA'd a piece of hardware I've managed to bock up.
To RMA or not to RMA. That is the question. I say at least sleep on it. In my case, I went for a drive and listened to my favorite music REALLY LOUD. I felt much, much better after that.
HTH
Originally posted by Newbie_Doo
yes! I totally agree. You break it, you gotta deal with it. I've seen plenty of folks be dishonest in this area, even seniors here, and I think it's wrong. The whole concept of our hobby implies the possibility of destroying a part.
that being said, fuzzba11, I feel your pain!:)
Will you people PLEASE stop w/ this "Holier than thou" Bull****!
fuzzba11
11-09-01, 03:59 AM
Yup, I've accepted that I broke it, so I have to suffer. Gonna get the Monster to look over it, otherwise it will be up for sale on ebay. And before you scream bloody murder, yes, I'm going to describe exactly what's wrong with it.
asmodean
11-09-01, 05:09 AM
I had a similar looking desktop with my first GeForce... I hadn't done anything to it, only tested how much it would oc... Not at all, artifacts were present after the first 5MHz increments... Ran it at stock speed for a month or so after that, then it wouldn't work in 3D and icons became wrongly colored. Shortly after that, the desktop started to look like that. Back Matrox Millennium 2 & VooDoo2... :(
It was a Creative, so I won't buy any videocards made by them anymore. Back to shop it went, the importer replaced it with my current card, Hercules 3D Prophet 2 MX, because the GeForce256 line of cards wasn't in production anymore. Lucky me :)
Originally posted by asmodean
I had a similar looking desktop with my first GeForce... I hadn't done anything to it, only tested how much it would oc... Not at all, artifacts were present after the first 5MHz increments... Ran it at stock speed for a month or so after that, then it wouldn't work in 3D and icons became wrongly colored. Shortly after that, the desktop started to look like that. Back Matrox Millennium 2 & VooDoo2... :(
It was a Creative, so I won't buy any videocards made by them anymore. Back to shop it went, the importer replaced it with my current card, Hercules 3D Prophet 2 MX, because the GeForce256 line of cards wasn't in production anymore. Lucky me :)
Jee they must have been nice giving you a second generation card :P
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