View Full Version : Ok, need cooling techniques! INCLUDE ANYTHING PLEASE!!!
soundfx4
11-06-01, 02:36 PM
Hi, I am planing to build a cpu in a fridge in the future, but until then, I have to use what little money I have to keep it cool. any suggestions that can REALLY bring the temp down? Like 5 F at least? Let me know thanks! Btw, I don't have a current temp now because I don't have a processor hehe, I just want to prepare my case for when I do get my Athlon XP 1600. Thanks!!!
Silversinksam
11-06-01, 03:27 PM
Soundfx,
Why dont you just parooz the Overclockers.com tips and tricks section.
http://www.overclockers.com/topiclist/index.asp
Exactly how much $$ are we dealing with? Have you chosen a HSF? (SK6 is a popuar one). Did you mod your case for more (larger) fans? www.2cooltek.com
soundfx4
11-06-01, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Silversinksam
Soundfx,
Why dont you just parooz the Overclockers.com tips and tricks section.
http://www.overclockers.com/topiclist/index.asp
I already have, I am just checking to see if anyone has any other techniques. I think I know what I'm gonna do, but not sure just yet.
soundfx4
11-06-01, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by JML
Exactly how much $$ are we dealing with? Have you chosen a HSF? (SK6 is a popuar one). Did you mod your case for more (larger) fans? www.2cooltek.com
Yeah, it is a volcano, a really good HSF for the price, and I am getting it at my local computer store. But anyway, moneywise, I guess umm 50. Not including the case or the HSF of coarse :) I havn't moded my case in any way yet, but I think I have something in mind that I saw on the O/C tips and techniquest section. Here is a link to it. My tower isn't near this tall, but I am going to make a few minor adjustments to make it fit my case.
http://www.overclockers.com/tips575
If you have any better suggestions, then please by all means let me know, because I want a real cool case so I can O/C it to the max later on. Thanks!
scotttm1
11-06-01, 04:21 PM
Go with a water cooling kit if you can, its worth its weight in gold and if you get a good one from danger den or <cpufx.com>
like I did (the Z4 Blizzard) it can drop your temps 10+ and add a peltier to that and your frezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzing but that is nothing to play with unless you really read up on it and I'm still doing that myself.
Whatcha want, air or water cooling? Water is best, air is next, you will probably get more tips if you give a direction you are going in.
hmcgrath
11-06-01, 08:03 PM
have you seen this tip (http://www.overclockers.com/tips461) ? It worked for me. See my recent thread.
Runnning 1.4@1.4, CPU 31C idle, 35C Prime 95
soundfx4
11-08-01, 09:11 AM
No way I am going with water cooling, because if leaks happen, it is my own fault. Air cooling right now is the way for me, and a one of those peltier things maybe later. Air cooling is the way I am going to go for now though
ButcherUK
11-08-01, 09:29 AM
Computers in fridges don't work - you'd just burn the fridge out, they aren't deisnged to cope with active heat loads.
soundfx4
11-08-01, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by ButcherUK
Computers in fridges don't work - you'd just burn the fridge out, they aren't deisnged to cope with active heat loads.
Well, actually, you aren't entirely right. You can actually buy special CPU cases with a fridge motor in it, I read it somewhere on the overclockers case cooling tips. When I find the link, I'll post it. Anyway, I am going to custom design mine out of an actualy fridge, and it should work no problem. Besides, I'm going to buy one with a strong motor that can handle being ran every time my Computer is on. I should be able to pull it off, at least I hope, fridges aren't exactley something you can afford to mess up on :D
hmcgrath
11-08-01, 09:49 AM
I think I may be annoying people here. But I think that 27C case and cpu temps are low for even stock speeds on a 1.4 tbird. Thats where I had this blower rig (hoot chute) last night while I was browsing forums. That was after I closed all the gaos in the duct work, and made the blower louder.
Now I just put a different speed control on this blower, running a slower speed, all I can hear is the 60GXPs which are probably going to die soon anyways. I can also hear my monitor now.
temps right now, 32C CPU, 28C case, room is 23C.
I did notice with this setup that even running load will only increase the temp about 5 degress C.
I saw some guy with a sig for an air cooled rig that said somthing like 34C idle 54C load. What is up with that?
seriously though if you want to overclock your cpu your vid card, the whole deal, and don't want to use water, consider this option. The noise at 27C case and 27C cpu is less than any combination of fans.
ButcherUK
11-08-01, 11:27 AM
Using a compressor and phase-change cooling is not the same as ripping an old fridge compressor out and using it. People who use freon setups buy a compressor specifically designed for 100% duty cycle (i.e. on all the time). The workings are like those of a fridge, but the parts are not identical.
As for the case temps, I get about 25C case temps on average and my comp isn't hugely loud, the large variation in idle / load temps tends to be caused by people that run overclocked and overvolted (especially the latter). Running with more agressive clokcing adds heat, but when a CPU is idle is puts out almost nothing regardless of clocking (if it;s really idle - win98/ME doesn't idle a cpu properly). However when the cpu is put under load it heats up a lot more; 20C is not uncommon at all.
hmcgrath
11-08-01, 11:43 AM
thanks for the info Butcher. It just seemed to me in that particular sig they were talking about OC'd idle temp, and OC'd load temp, and there was a 20 degree difference. I was curious if they were using some brand of heatsink that would act in that manner.
And I would second your point that NT platforms idle significantly cooler than ME, 98SE, or 98, even when using a program like power strip which can imitate NTs abilities there.
soundfx4
11-08-01, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by ButcherUK
Using a compressor and phase-change cooling is not the same as ripping an old fridge compressor out and using it. People who use freon setups buy a compressor specifically designed for 100% duty cycle (i.e. on all the time). The workings are like those of a fridge, but the parts are not identical.
As for the case temps, I get about 25C case temps on average and my comp isn't hugely loud, the large variation in idle / load temps tends to be caused by people that run overclocked and overvolted (especially the latter). Running with more agressive clokcing adds heat, but when a CPU is idle is puts out almost nothing regardless of clocking (if it;s really idle - win98/ME doesn't idle a cpu properly). However when the cpu is put under load it heats up a lot more; 20C is not uncommon at all.
Like I said, I'm going to buy a heavy duty fridge that can stay on all the time. :o
You don't need a heavy-duty fridge.. Check out my website.. I just used a small fridge unit out of an old counter-top soda fountain.. works like a charm & I run it 24/7 most of the time.. haven't had any probs with the compressor at all..
Most compressors are actually way to big for the small amount of heat generated by the PC.. The unit I have is a 3000BTU compressor & my CPU is only putting out about 300-400BTUs
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