cpu upgrade

[oakfn]

hi i have a 1.7 Ghz p4,iam wanting to upgrade to a 2.6Ghz,will i get any proformance gain,talked to local tech said i wouldnt notice much anything inless i went to a 2.8

thanks for any info

Oakfn

[JLK03F150]

I upgraded a Dell Dimension 8100 from 1.5GHz 400FSB to 2.6GHz 400FSB & it was a pretty good difference in performance. It runs Win ME & has 386Mb of RDRAM. I play a game that was released in 2000 (maxed settings) with it & run folding@home 24/7. The difference between the 2.6 & 2.8 would be minimal provided they both have a 400MHz FSB.

What are you hoping to be able to do after your upgrade that you can't currently do with a 1.7GHz cpu?

[oakfn]

I just started playing Everquest 2 i have 1.5 of ram 9600pro 128mb card but still get some lag friend said i have a descent system but need to change cpu and id get better proformance

Oakfn

[JLK03F150]

Yeah, your system meets the Minimum Requirements for the game but a 2.0GHz is the Minimum Recommended processor. The 2.6GHz should be a nice upgrade for that game.

[batboy]

What motherboard is in that computer? Is it a socket 478? You might need to upgrade the vid card along with processor if you are a gamer.

[Mr. $T$]

1.7 sounds like your running the older 423 platform, a quick way to check is CPUZ. If it is however I'd suggest you replace it ASAP. 423 is horrable, in cases where ram was not heavly needed pIII Tualatins kicked it around. Also to help you out what your motherboard supports CPUZ's Mainboard tab will give us all the info we'll need.

[Captain Helghas]

Just overclock the CPU past 2.0 GHz to meet the minimum requirements. It sounds like you're out of warrenty anyways.

[JLK03F150]

Here's a link to his other thread.
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=444947
He's got a s478 Willie on an MS-6533 which, depending on version, may or may not support a 533FSB. Neither version will support a Prescott. Between the Willie core & sis chipset, he'd be lucky if he could oc up to 2.0GHz.

The minimum required cpu is only 1.0GHz. The minimum recommended is 2.0GHz.

[Cheator]

The guy probably wanted money if it was a salesman.. There would not be a difference between 2.6 and 2.8 in a game like that.

[Mr. $T$]

Here's a link to his other thread.
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=444947
He's got a s478 Willie on an MS-6533 which, depending on version, may or may not support a 533FSB. Neither version will support a Prescott. Between the Willie core & sis chipset, he'd be lucky if he could oc up to 2.0GHz.

The minimum required cpu is only 1.0GHz. The minimum recommended is 2.0GHz.


Ewww Willy (no pun) in a SIS, defently toss that out.

You'd be in for a platform change there buddy if you want to see anything worth to upgrade. However the fastest processor that will work in that board is 2.8 (http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL7EY&ProcFam=483&PkgType=ALL&SysBusSpd=ALL&CorSpd=ALL) 400FSB 130nm Northwood, good luck finding one however. Hardly worth an upgrade considering the motherboard.

[oakfn]

thanks for all the info,i got a 2.8 intel p4 800mhz fbs,it doesnt seem to work,did they give me wrong chip?this is info on motherboard,pc isnt working right now so cant get cpu-z info

Main BoardDescription Your Results
Brand/Model PREMIO S650E
Type Desktop
Serial Number Not available
BIOS Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 07/24/2002
System Board MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-6533
ProcessorDescription Your Results
Brand/Model Intel Pentium 4
Nominal Clock Speed 1700 MHz
Measured Clock Speed 1700 MHz
External Clock Speed 100 MHz
CPU Load 0%
Speed Rating 2661 (96% of 2683 similar)

[fabulouscoops]

I think it was established that your motherboard only goes to 400 fsb while the new CPU is 800 fsb. That may be why it does not work. There is also probably a difference in maximum cache size. A BIOS flash might be the answer, but then again, you may need a new motherboard.

[JLK03F150]

Finding a 2.8GHz 400FSB cpu is going to be very difficult. Here is a 2.6GHz 400FSB cpu for $219 (http://www.strattoncomputer.com/so423upki.html). That seems too much $$$ for the cpu you'd be getting though. You would discard the 423-478 adapter. The same site has a 2.6GHz 400FSB Celeron for $98.

You will need to buy a new motherboard, pc3200 ram & probably a new power supply unit to make use of the 2.8GHz 800FSB that you bought. If you choose to do that, it will be a tremendous upgrade. You will also need to reinstall Windows after the upgrade.

[oakfn]

well update put old cpu back in tryed to format and reinstall xp get error disk error cant load setup check disk configuration,so took it out put in oth harddrive taking it now,spoke to soon says cannot copy ks.sys skip this file make sure cd is in cdrom thats my options

[Mr. $T$]

thanks for all the info,i got a 2.8 intel p4 800mhz fbs,it doesnt seem to work,did they give me wrong chip?this is info on motherboard,pc isnt working right now so cant get cpu-z info

Main BoardDescription Your Results
Brand/Model PREMIO S650E
Type Desktop
Serial Number Not available
BIOS Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 07/24/2002
System Board MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-6533
ProcessorDescription Your Results
Brand/Model Intel Pentium 4
Nominal Clock Speed 1700 MHz
Measured Clock Speed 1700 MHz
External Clock Speed 100 MHz
CPU Load 0%
Speed Rating 2661 (96% of 2683 similar)


Your motherboard only supports 400FSB. The only processors that will work in your motherboard are the Northwood core and Willamette core with 512k and 256k of L2 cache running at only 400FSB. Chances are the 2.8 you got was a Prescott core being they haven't made 130nm chips (Northwood) for over a year now. Your best bet is to sell your current 1.7 chip, motherboard, and ram to buy a new setup. I would get a i955 based motherboard if you have enough money to go PCI-E (which I do recommend) or i865PE if you'd like to stay with AGP however your limited to running single core CPU, 805 Smithfield Processor if you go with the i855 or 506 Prescott if you get a i865PE, a Gig of budget memory DDR2 or DDR depending on motherboard, with a FSP 500w PSU, and PCI-E graphics if you choose the i955.

Simply upgrading your processor on your current setup will not yield great performance differences compaired to what your investing in it and what you can possably get out of changing your platform. To bluntly state it your motherboard is junk, SIS is limited to making budget chipsets that power the lowest end computers. I guarantee you once you change your setup it will blow your mind on how much quicker it will feel. Your games will load faster, your applications will run smoother and the entire unit as a whole will feel like nothing you've owned before.

[Shelnutt2]

If you can not afford to go PCI-Express and DDR2. The ASUS P5P800-SE supports all dual core chips, 9xx or 8xx. So that is an option.

[Mr. $T$]

If you can not afford to go PCI-Express and DDR2. The ASUS P5P800-SE supports all dual core chips, 9xx or 8xx. So that is an option.


I stand corrected then, I did some quick research and couldn't find any motherboards that had AGP and officially supported Dual Cores, on Newegg anyways. Infact when I was looking up boards that supported it that was one I looked at that had AGP.

[muddocktor]

oakfn, if you are serious about upgrading that old system, then you can still buy 400 fsb P4's. I just checked on pricewatch and a company called Starmicro has 2.4/400, 2.6/400 and 2.8/400 processors listed as in stock. The prices range from around $135 to $225. I don't know anything more about the company than that, but if you want to blow money upgrading the old system of yours, it's available.