Want to overclock PIII 1.0ghz. Possible??

[Laneyrd]

I am wanting to overclock my PIII 1.0ghz cpu, but don't know if it's really worth doing.??? I have it on an Asus BlackPearl mobo and am limited to 1.0ghz and 512megs of ram. I only use the computer for graphics work(photoshop) and was recently sicken'd by the performance of an Imac 700mhz that was clearly faster. I've done all the tweaking on my system that I can(registry) and other little items, but need more power! I don't want to purchase a G4, but I definatly need that kind of power for my work. I can only think of going to a bigger better mobo and cpu on the cheaper side. Unless someone can help!
Thanks!
Laneyrd

[Ebola]

welcome to the forum. you surely can overclock your p3. I have a p3 1000E (100fsb type) running at 1240mhz. I believe one of the members of the forum has one at 1400mhz. If you have a newer chip then it has a better posibility of overclocking. the p3 1000EB (133 fsb type) chips should do 1150mhz easily with decent ram.

dont be discurraged by macs. somethings they do better on and some things pcs to better on. almost all 3d graphics apps run faster on pc's. i think adobe is in cahoots with apple.

[muddocktor]

Welcome to the forums.

One thing you can do is up the front side bus speed up on your motherboard and overclock your processor. You didn't give any model number on your motherboard so it's hard to say how you will go about doing it, but I imagine that you can do it in the bios. I'm also assuming that you have a 133 mhz fsb proc because the 1000E flip chip procs haven't been on the market for long. If you have a cC0 stepping proc, you can probably get an overclock to 1.2 gig or so max. Also, if you are using a stock heat sink fan, you will need to upgrade to a good hsf because of the extra heat. Start out by trying maybe a 140 fsb speed and test for stability by using a program that will load the proc up, like the Prime 95 torture test. If it is stable at that speed, then try easing up the front side bus higher and repeat the stability test. Once it starts getting unstable you can raise the core voltage a bit and test it again. A lot of times, the increased core voltage will stabilize the processor. Keep doing this carefully until you hit your proc's max stable speed. Another thing to keep in mind is that the PCI bus and AGP bus will also be overclocked; watch for errors on your hard drive. The memory will also be overclocked, make sure that you have quality memory like crucial, mushkin or corsair.
If you want to spend about $150, you can get the P3 1000E flip chip proc and replace your present one. They overclock a lot easier and generally further than the 133 fsb chips because they are the newest stepping of coppermine chips. There are several people here that have them and are overclocking to 1330 mhz and beyond. Hope this will help you out.

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Originally posted by Ebola
welcome to the forum. you surely can overclock your p3. I have a p3 1000E (100fsb type) running at 1240mhz. I believe one of the members of the forum has one at 1400mhz. If you have a newer chip then it has a better posibility of overclocking. the p3 1000EB (133 fsb type) chips should do 1150mhz easily with decent ram.



yeah like me :o :o :D =)

[muddocktor]

Originally posted by [OC]_nurse


yeah like me :o :o :D =)

LOL! I will see what mine will do when I get my Soyo board in, it's got a lot more overclocking options than my BH6 board has. Unfortunately, it's to be a Christmas present and that means that I'll have to wait to get it until then.:(

[jazztrumpet216]

Originally posted by Laneyrd
I am wanting to overclock my PIII 1.0ghz cpu, but don't know if it's really worth doing.??? I have it on an Asus BlackPearl mobo and am limited to 1.0ghz and 512megs of ram. I only use the computer for graphics work(photoshop) and was recently sicken'd by the performance of an Imac 700mhz that was clearly faster. I've done all the tweaking on my system that I can(registry) and other little items, but need more power! I don't want to purchase a G4, but I definatly need that kind of power for my work. I can only think of going to a bigger better mobo and cpu on the cheaper side. Unless someone can help!
Thanks!
Laneyrd

I'd go with the PIII 1000E CPU like many have mentioned here. The Asus CUSL2-C Black Pearl you have is a pretty beefy board for ocing. Abits are also good for ocing if you decide you want to change. I'd stick with the Asus though... even though Abits are good for ocing, they're not as stable as Asus' are. For the most part, anyway, there are a few exceptions. But Asus seems to combine the worlds of ocing and stability quite well IMHO.

[funnyperson1]

also with the TUSL2 youll be able to upgrade to tualitins as well and i highly recommend getting the Celeron 1.2 tualatin(256cache) because it will whoop the snot out of the 1GHZ pIII and should oc to 1.5....

[batboy]

Those Asus motherboards are very good, but I beg to differ with Jazz about Abit not being as stable as the Asus. Abit motherboards are every bit as stable as the Asus mobos if not more so. I've owned one Asus and three Abit motherboards, so I speak from experience.

[jazztrumpet216]

Originally posted by batboy
Those Asus motherboards are very good, but I beg to differ with Jazz about Abit not being as stable as the Asus. Abit motherboards are every bit as stable as the Asus mobos if not more so. I've owned one Asus and three Abit motherboards, so I speak from experience.

I have owned one of each. I've used an Asus P2B-B and I'm currently using an Abit SA6-R. They're both quality motherboards, and the difference in stability is negligible. I've just noticed that the Abit's a little touchier than the Asus was. On the flip side, I've overclocked much better (and found it much easier) on the Abit and for an overclocker, that's what I'd probably recommend. The difference in actual stability (in the OS) is really not enough to say one or the other is better than the other. Asus and Abit are constantly competing with each other to get the better mobo. I really don't see a major problem with either of them.

[TheCrow]

Originally posted by batboy
Those Asus motherboards are very good, but I beg to differ with Jazz about Abit not being as stable as the Asus. Abit motherboards are every bit as stable as the Asus mobos if not more so. I've owned one Asus and three Abit motherboards, so I speak from experience.

I agree with you!
Abit are more stable than Asus!

Also owned 3 Abits and one Asus!:)

Sorry Jazz

[Yodums]

Well I agree with Funny Person..

If you get the Asus TUSL2 and the 1.2 Tualatin you'll be working at thing at 1.5ghz with some air cooling which will own that P3 :D

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
also with the TUSL2 youll be able to upgrade to tualitins as well and i highly recommend getting the Celeron 1.2 tualatin(256cache) because it will whoop the snot out of the 1GHZ pIII and should oc to 1.5....


hmm.. i donno about that at least with my setup. I know that not all 1000E cD0 users can do 1400+ but most people can manage 1370- 1380 with it. And mine set at 142mhz FSB??.. heehee checked out my memory score compare to T-Celery OC'ed to 1.5 or even 1.6Ghz where game performance is more effective with the system bus speed? Try setting up Quake3A timedemo and see what u'll get heehee... with same vid card, same graphics setup, etc.. With T-Celeries you can't do 137- 150FSB practically as we know, can u? heehee.. I wouldn't have said this if you didn't mention "whooping" the other.. I didn't think we were in competition with our own Intel chips.

[Yodums]

Hmm... Well Ol'Man went from his 1.2 Tual Celly to a 1.8gig..

So I believe his benchmarks killed the computers by ALOT! :)

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Originally posted by Yodums
Hmm... Well Ol'Man went from his 1.2 Tual Celly to a 1.8gig..

So I believe his benchmarks killed the computers by ALOT! :)

I said, "Practical" is that practical? with air?? No. Have u read his thread carefully? :rolleyes:

[Yodums]

Originally posted by [OC]_nurse


I said, "Practical" is that practical? with air?? No. Have u read his thread carefully? :rolleyes:

Bah ...!

Thats no fun :P

[Pinky]

I was waiting to hear what your s-spec was from the side of your box or off the chip itself. If it's a cC0, you won't get past 1100.

[Yodums]

Chips 1ghz are still cC0? I thought you were guaranteed to get cD0 stepping at 1ghz or was that Celly?

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by Yodums
Chips 1ghz are still cC0? I thought you were guaranteed to get cD0 stepping at 1ghz or was that Celly?
yup only for cellys....

[muddocktor]

Originally posted by Pinky
I was waiting to hear what your s-spec was from the side of your box or off the chip itself. If it's a cC0, you won't get past 1100.

Not necessarily true. I have a slot 1 cC0 1000E presently running in my BH6 at 1120/112 and rock solid. If the old board had a 1/4 pci divider I think that it would do around 120-125 fsb, but I've run into data errors on the hard drive trying to run it there. The cD0 flip chips do look like they will o/c a lot better though. Also, with the cD0 chip, he doesn't have to buy a new motherboard and can save a hundred bucks or so. Once I get my Soyo board I'm going to try the slot 1 proc in it and see what it will actually do.
On a side note; this Soyo board automatically adjusts the pci bus between 31-39 mhz automatically as you up the fsb speed. Why don't motherboard manufacturers implement this on newer boards? That is 1 real neat feature.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by muddocktor


Not necessarily true. I have a slot 1 cC0 1000E presently running in my BH6 at 1120/112 and rock solid. If the old board had a 1/4 pci divider I think that it would do around 120-125 fsb, but I've run into data errors on the hard drive trying to run it there. The cD0 flip chips do look like they will o/c a lot better though. Also, with the cD0 chip, he doesn't have to buy a new motherboard and can save a hundred bucks or so. Once I get my Soyo board I'm going to try the slot 1 proc in it and see what it will actually do.
On a side note; this Soyo board automatically adjusts the pci bus between 31-39 mhz automatically as you up the fsb speed. Why don't motherboard manufacturers implement this on newer boards? That is 1 real neat feature.

That auto PCI bus is really neat ... so basically you'll get way more FSB like that not running your PCI out of spec!

[Dtown]

Wish my MB had it. :(

[Yodums]

Everyone wish they did..

If everyone had that then they would find out their PCI is not out of spec and you've reach the maximum of your chip nothing to do with the NIC or bus speeds!

[Dtown]

Nic and bus are half the battle!!!!!! GiJoe!!!!!!!!! :D

[Yodums]

Originally posted by Dtown
Nic and bus are half the battle!!!!!! GiJoe!!!!!!!!! :D

LOL you and your G.I Joe heh.