Watercooling RES info

[Zer0_7]

Going to setup a WC system cpu will prolly be AMD XP 1900+ I am going with the dangerden Maze II Waterblock and a blackIce Radiator (case constraints) with a 120mm Panafalo fan. Ive been looking into the RES to use and would like some opinions My two choices are Dtek Customs Res and OC hideout's Res

http://dtekcustoms.safeshopper.com/7/17.htm?138
https://www.overclockershideout.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=o&Product_Code=compres1.0-B&Category_Code=R1

Things I noticed were that the OC res uses 3/8 barbs while DTek uses 1/2 or 3/8 also the BlackIce comes with 3/8 barbs but can be modified to 1/2 inch barbs. Im thinking better flow with 1/2 inch barbs here. Im not planning on OCing but its a possibility in the future, is there much difference between using 1/2 or 3/8 tubing. also anyone know how loud these two res's are ?? And what about performance and reliability. I see they both pump out about the same amount 144gph rio 400 and 145gph Oc hideout. I might also in the future add a GPU waterblock (GEForce III card)can both these pumps handle both the cpu and gpu waterblock. This rig will be a lan rig so it needs to travel. also any recomendations on the setup would be great. What are the diffrences in inlet sizes 3/8 or 1/2 what are the benfits or disadvantages

[IFMU]

Ok the first thing is inner diameter or outer? Big difference in an odd way... Presuming outer... Go with the 1/2 inch OD. I honestly couldnt say which is better or worse... A res is a res, I dont see how that would cause much of a difference... As far as noise goes, Im kinda lost there... By my understanding if the pump can put out a decent amount of power it should be able to handle the gpu and the cpu water blocks...

[Zer0_7]

thanks ifmu, when I looked into buying the WB there were 2 options 3/8 or 1/2 it doesnt specify weather it pertained to the inner spacing or outer. If I go with 1/2 inch the inlets on the blackIce are 3/8 if I dont mod the inlets can I use and adapter to downsize to 3/8 inch or will this cause the water to move through the rad quicker since the water is moving from a wider area to a more concentrated area ( like putting your finger over the end of a garden hose and the pressure increasing?) thus not cooling the water as much
thanks

[IFMU]

No probs Zero... that be why we be here!~!

Well if you can get it too, you want the rad to have the slower water flow... more time to cool... But odds are those measurements are for the outside Dia...

[Zer0_7]

how should the setup be RES ==> CPU ==> RAD ==> RES ?
also anyone know of a easy way to monitor the temp of the water as it leaves the Res if this is the correct path the water should travel so I know the temp before it hits the cpu. also what about condensation is this a problem if im not using a pelt and if i need to protect what areas should be prtected I read some stuff on using dielctric grease on the socket holes and then a silicone in the center of the socket and around the edges as well as putting a neoprene piece in the center of the socket and a neopreene boot around the socket

[Yoric]

from what I have read
res to rad to cpu to res is the best solution
really depends on what you have in your setup though

you shouldn't have to worry about condensation as long as you are not going below ambiant air temp

[Voodoo Rufus]

When talking about hose barbs they are listed in the hardware store as inner diameter. Danger Den has 1/2" options, and the Blackice I'm using has 1/2" ID fittings. If you've got a good pump, go for the 1/2" ID. Seems like the components you're looking at all have 3/4" and 1/2" ID options.

[IFMU]

Which way for it to go varies on what most people say... But I used res - cpu - rad - res -- others say that if you go res - rad - cpu - res -- Most claim that if you go that route then you would get lower temps straight to the cpu... However My thought on that is that you would be putting the hot water in the res and would be a little harder to cool... But I could be wrong... Condensation is not an issue at all unless you use something to reach the colder temps (ie Pelts) Just straight water and fans will not cause condensation... not a possiblity...

[Zer0_7]

ok sounds good what kind of temps can I expect to be around with basic WC'ing and can the rio 400 pump handle the 1/2 ID its rated at 144 GPH and the flow wont be going up more then 12 inches. That seems to be the only RES out of the 2 that has the 1/2 Inlets the OChideout has 3/8 and I dont see any options for 1/2

[Voodoo Rufus]

You should be able to get 10 C above ambient. I'm getting around 14 C above but I have my fan turned down to 10V. I have same ineffieciencies I have to work out though.

10C to 15C I think is very good for a water cooling system.