I'd like to give H20 cooling a shot...

EZ-Spidey · Mar 25, 2006

Hi guys!

I though about it for a while now and decided to give water cooling a shot.

Right now I have an XP-120 which seems to be doing an allright job on my overclocked
X2 4800+ but my temps really depend of the room's temperature.

Summers here are hot and usually very humid at times. I know this will greatly affect
my temps when the time comes so I decided to get to work now.

This is my first time dabbling in this realm. I read some threads and checked out the
galleries to get ideas of how to set up the components.

Where I really need help is which (or a good idea) components to get. I know next to
nothing on brands and models.

I'm only looking to cool the CPU, no GPU or chipsets. I'm using an Antec P180 case.

I'd like to keep everything inside if possible. My budget floats around $200 CAD tops.

Any suggestions would be greatly apprciated.

Thanks!

D-mann · Mar 25, 2006

Good case to work with. If your just going to W/C your CPU you can go with this setup.

CPU Block;
Swiftech STORM
or
Danger Den TDX

Radiator;
Danger Den Black Ice Xtreme 120mm Radiator

Pump;
Swiftech MCP655

Tubing;
Tygon Tubing

You can also take a look at this DangerDen Power kit HERE

This should give you a good start.

Just remember what you said "temps really depend of the room's temperature" this applies to W/C systems as well. Unless you go Phase cooling or Peltier.

HTH

veryhumid · Mar 25, 2006

very humid in the summer, eh?

You may not want to limit yourself to mounting inside the case. Swiftech makes a neat product that lets you mount a nice big rad outside of the case without having to cut your case.

http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCB-120-R2.asp

Flip-Mode · Mar 25, 2006

That DD kit is VERY outdated.
You can't beat the TDX+D5 special at DD and you just add a rad and tubing, clamps and fans ad you are set.

D-mann · Mar 25, 2006

I forgot about that TDX+D5 special. Good one.

EZ-Spidey · Mar 25, 2006

LOL! Yeah! VERY HUMID, hehehhe.

Thanks alot guys!

Unfortunetly I'm in Canada so I can't really order from FrozenCPU.com because of customs/brokerage fees

I checked out a few Canadian PC cooling e-tailers and this is the closest to what I've been recommanded to get I could find:

CPU Water Block - Danger Den AMD64 TDX:
http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Mer...en=PROD&Product_Code=6135&Category_Code=510.7

Radiator - Swiftech MCR120 120mm Radiator + Fan & Radbox:
http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Mer...n=PROD&Product_Code=6231&Category_Code=510.13

Pump - Swiftech MCP655 Inline:
http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Mer...en=PROD&Product_Code=6205&Category_Code=510.3

The only thing I'm not sure about is the tubbing. I haven't seen any Tygon anywhere.

This is what the store I plan to order from carries:
http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Mer...n=CTGY&Store_Code=Bigfoot&Category_Code=510.4

So if you guys can tell me which kind of tubes to get, I'll be pretty much set to order.

Do I also need a reservoir?

CCUABIDExORxDIE · Mar 25, 2006

want a cheap waterblock that will kick the bejeseysees outta the DD TDX. check this out...http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchan...&Product_Code=AQX-WW-AL-USMA&Category_Code=WB and you dont need tygon...just go for MasterKleer 7/16th or Clearflex 60. Tygon is over-priced over-rated crap...it wont lower your temps... its a waste.

and you only need a T-line...no need for a res. and try to get a BIP II...dual core chips put out alotta heat load.

Stratus_ss · Mar 25, 2006

EZ
I'm also in Canada but I am lucky enough to have a buddy in toronto that can get just about anything you want (usually)

I am using clearflex tubing myself with
6002-775 (but the -64 is great too)
D5 pump (which is the same as the swiftech)
a Black Ice Pro 2
Maze 4 chipset
Maze 4 acetal gpu block

what I like about the 600X series although "outdated" *rolls his eyes* is that they are solid copper. Cant beat that

anyways if you want to give me a pm or if your on msn I can help you locate some stuff here in Canada

just give me a shout

EZ-Spidey · Mar 25, 2006

Thanks Stratus, PM on the way.

CCUABIDExORxDIE,

I'm really sorry if I'll sound noobish, but what is a 'BIP II' exactly?

Thanks again guys!
EZ

CCUABIDExORxDIE · Mar 25, 2006

Black Ice Pro...its dangerdens Thinner radiator meant for lower speed fans. it also costs a bundle less. also...the swiftech 6002 series is INSANE they kick the crap outta dangerdens current layout of blocks. in everything

EZ-Spidey · Mar 25, 2006

Cool. Looked it up and its a dual 120mm fan rad so I don't know
where to fit it on the P180.

My space inside is rather limited. I'll be using the remaining HDD
chamber for the pump. I was hoping to keep the rad outside.

Flip-Mode · Mar 26, 2006

If you get the Swiftech block here and the rad here and the rad mounting box here you will have one superb system with the pump you mentioned.

EZ-Spidey · Apr 3, 2006

Thanks Flip-Mode.

EZ

Flip-Mode · Apr 3, 2006

EZ-Spidey said:
Thanks Flip-Mode.

EZ

NP

-aDaM^ · Apr 3, 2006

Theres also the Swiftech Apex kit, which is really good.Comes wit Apogee , mcp-655, forget which rad. But i know its a higher end kit.

clocker2 · Apr 3, 2006

CCUABIDExORxDIE said:
Tygon is over-priced over-rated crap...it wont lower your temps... its a waste.

and you only need a T-line...no need for a res.

Indeed, you don't need Tygon or a reservoir but using them will make your install cleaner and life much simpler.
Tygon can make bends that lesser tubing cannot so you may be able to use less.
A rez makes bleeding/filling a 10 minute affair versus the protracted bleed process with a t-line.

I use and recommend both.

-aDaM^ · Apr 3, 2006

I hate Tygon, primoflex pwnz it.

thorilan · Apr 3, 2006

EZ if you could please read this sticky and answer the questions. the answers will give us more info to help you with what you need to learn and buy

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=369636

CoreGamer · Apr 3, 2006

Or you could just get an apogee....

-aDaM^ · Apr 3, 2006

CoreGamer said:
Or you could just get an apogee....

yup agopee is basically a re-designed 6002, very good block.

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