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I just picked up Elder scrolls oblivion and was all ready to run it. Seemed to be working fine untill the game loaded up and started to lagg to $h!t. Apparently my FX 5200 just isnt up to the task of running it. (not supprising seeing the graphics in the game). I was at least hoping to run it at minimal video settings untill I got the money for my new mobo, cpu and vid card. But even at lowest settings it laggs so badly. :bang head
I dont realy want to buy a new card untill i get a PCIe mobo. I dont wanna have an AGP card that i will use for a few months and never touch again.
Stupid Fx 5200 :mad: I just assumed that because the minimal requirements were a FX model card it would at least work minimuly!! BAH! oh well.
Dungeon Siege II even runs crappy only at like 17.54 Fps. Anyone have any ideas on how i can make my 5200 run Oblivion?
Kenshiro
03-26-06, 02:37 AM
Only way you can get more FPS is to o/c your vid card. Try overclocking it a little bit and see how much you can crank out. Maybe shell out another $30 and get a vid card cooler so you can push the card a little more.
Side note: Maybe download the lastest vid card driver, and patch for your game. That may be able to help. If not, you are dead in the water.
well the 5200 stock core speed is 250Mhz and mem is 333Mhz (pathetic as hell). Ive managed to get it to 316Mhz core and 456Mhz mem stable with the stock cooler and the fan from and old K6-400 cpu on it lol. Ill poke at it a bit more and maybe look for a volt mod.
bignick
03-26-06, 08:08 AM
It probably just dosn't have enough HP. My third rig has a FX5600Ultra@500/950 and lags a little on low setting at 800x600 with Oblivion. I would upgrade your video card if you want to play that game. A cheap 6800 series with SM3.0 would help you out. Or I'm sure a 6600GT would do the job and they both around run $100. To give you an idea the 6600GT will beat a FX5950 at FPS games. And that was te baddest card in the FX series.
Special7
03-26-06, 01:02 PM
It probably just dosn't have enough HP. My third rig has a FX5600Ultra@500/950 and lags a little on low setting at 800x600 with Oblivion. I would upgrade your video card if you want to play that game. A cheap 6800 series with SM3.0 would help you out. Or I'm sure a 6600GT would do the job and they both around run $100. To give you an idea the 6600GT will beat a FX5950 at FPS games. And that was te baddest card in the FX series.
Too bad the entire FX series sucked cajones.
Too bad the entire FX series sucked cajones.
It was good at that time. loll.. the FX5950 ultra was insane XD does anyone remember how that card looked?
http://www.nvnews.net/previews/geforce_fx_5950_ultra/images/introduction/card_shot.gif
It looks like what a top of the line card looks like.
Kenshiro
03-26-06, 06:14 PM
The FX series only rock in DX9. They totally suck in DX9. I will suggest you to spend about $100 to get a decent card. I think you should be able to get find a 9800pro or 9800np for less than $100. That card will 3 times as fast as your current card.
twoeyes
03-26-06, 06:16 PM
The FX series only rock in DX9. They totally suck in DX9. I will suggest you to spend about $100 to get a decent card. I think you should be able to get find a 9800pro or 9800np for less than $100. That card will 3 times as fast as your current card.
I think you mean rocked in DX8 then sucked in DX9, which is true. :)
DX9 is considered by many not to support DX9 just out of principle... heh
Kenshiro
03-26-06, 06:36 PM
lol... yes i do mean that... heh heh....
thanks for the correction......
5200's suxor, overclocking won't help that much. You could probably get an ATI 9600-9800 to get you by for now. Watch the classifieds for a good deal. But for the money there are some good $99 deals on 6600GT's and 6800NU's that would be a lot better.
twoeyes
03-26-06, 10:41 PM
lol... yes i do mean that... heh heh....
thanks for the correction......
yeah and then i screwed up to... i meant
"FX5200 is considered by many not to support DX9 just out of principle... heh"
:bang head :bang head :bang head
princeofdarknes
03-26-06, 11:01 PM
oh god, i had a FX5200, it crapped out on my so i sold it to a friend, which worked in his comp and got me a radeon 9250, much better ;) now i traded that off for a new Black ^^ monitor and baught me a x800GTO! booyah ilove it ^^ does 1280x1024 at high settings in oblivion with 2xAA and Bloom, havent tried 4xAA but 2x looks just fine to me hehe
I dont think you'll be able to squeeze out more of the 5200, you'd probably be better off waiting and upgrading to PCIe, but then again i do understand the need to play this game, might be able to find a used 6800 (SM 3.0=HDR!) or something equivilant ATI AGP for under $100
the question is, is it worth it? ;)
I think Ill just wait for my PCIe board. Probably get a 7600Gs. I would like the 7800Gs but im just not too keen on forking out $450 for a vid card. by the way would a 460Watt psu be enough for the 7600Gs?
jadakada
03-27-06, 12:39 AM
well what kind of power supply do you have? If its a crappy one like a deer then I have no idea, if its a good power supply check to see if it has enouph amps on the 12 volt rail.
Kenshiro
03-27-06, 02:49 AM
It should be enough if you don't run dual vid card.
Goshawk
03-27-06, 01:25 PM
well what kind of power supply do you have? If its a crappy one like a deer then I have no idea, if its a good power supply check to see if it has enouph amps on the 12 volt rail.
Ever see a powersupply take down a motherboard and everything attached to it? if not, buy a deer! :p
The FX5200 that i had ( gigabyte ) was pretty good actually. At the time i was even playing FFXI on it, and wouldn't skip a beat. That was about a year or two ago.
Todays games though, like oblivion, the card isn't gonna cut the mustard... OC'd or not.
Even a 6600GT would be quite an upgrade, or even a 6200. i'm sure you could pick either of those up for cheap.
~ Gos
Kenshiro
03-27-06, 01:55 PM
how long do you plan to wait until you upgrade the whole rig? If you plan to upgrade in a 3 months or less, then I suppose the wait is ok. If you are planning to wait the whole year, I suggest you to get a better card now. I'm sure you can find a way much better card either on the classified or ebay for less than $80 now.
>HyperlogiK<
03-27-06, 02:45 PM
Firstly I suggest that you do all the usual game optimization stuff, a defrag (not with the windows tool, use Raxco perfect disk), run it either from a heavily tweaked windows install or maybe run it under gameOS (I think there is still a free version avalible called gameOS GE), try and get those RAM latencies down a bit if at all possible, and if you can bear the hassle create a separate swap partition as the first thing on your windows disk (because oblivion is probably going to do some swapping with 1GB of RAM). Then run the gfx card as fast as it can stably.
In morrowind you could hand tweak a lot of the gfx options to settings to levels well below the minimums in the game gfx menu settings. I haven't gotten my hands on Oblivion yet as my main rig cremated itself, and er so did my backup rig, and I doubt that it is going to run on this GF2MX so I'm not sure, but have a poke around the game config files with notepad.
Only do a voltmod if you are confident!
You might just get the thing playing at reasonable framerates, even if it looks like Daggerfall.
twoeyes
03-27-06, 10:03 PM
Firstly I suggest that you do all the usual game optimization stuff, a defrag (not with the windows tool, use Raxco perfect disk), run it either from a heavily tweaked windows install or maybe run it under gameOS (I think there is still a free version avalible called gameOS GE), try and get those RAM latencies down a bit if at all possible, and if you can bear the hassle create a separate swap partition as the first thing on your windows disk (because oblivion is probably going to do some swapping with 1GB of RAM). Then run the gfx card as fast as it can stably.
In morrowind you could hand tweak a lot of the gfx options to settings to levels well below the minimums in the game gfx menu settings. I haven't gotten my hands on Oblivion yet as my main rig cremated itself, and er so did my backup rig, and I doubt that it is going to run on this GF2MX so I'm not sure, but have a poke around the game config files with notepad.
Only do a voltmod if you are confident!
You might just get the thing playing at reasonable framerates, even if it looks like Daggerfall.
Sorry but the game requires SM2 at least, so unless you can turn off all shaders i doubt a GF2 will run it XD (i think you were joking anyway)
In any case I'd just get a new video card, you might as well go back and play morrowind if you dont play oblivion like its meant to be played, with at least medium settings at a decent clip. I'd say about $140 will get you a card with playable FPS.
Special7
03-28-06, 01:16 AM
Sorry but the game requires SM2 at least, so unless you can turn off all shaders i doubt a GF2 will run it XD (i think you were joking anyway)
In any case I'd just get a new video card, you might as well go back and play morrowind if you dont play oblivion like its meant to be played, with at least medium settings at a decent clip. I'd say about $140 will get you a card with playable FPS.
I can vouch for him I tried it on my old Radeon 7500 (DX7) and the game wouldn't load, waiting on my stepup from eVGA. :santa:
>HyperlogiK<
03-28-06, 02:42 AM
I was, still I think with a whole bunch of work it might be possible to get it running on a heavily oc'd 5200
Kenshiro
03-28-06, 09:26 AM
If I remember correctly, there are some dx9 games that won't even run on the 5200. I think it is somewhere in tomshareware review that they are doing the benchmark, the 5200 didn't even get any fps.
princeofdarknes
03-28-06, 08:45 PM
I was, still I think with a whole bunch of work it might be possible to get it running on a heavily oc'd 5200
if it was in a cryo chamber XD
Lord_MiL
03-29-06, 12:31 AM
Have a look on the official elder scrolls boards. You'll find info on lots and lots of settings in the config files that will help you out. For example, many people find that decreasing the amount of grass outdoors dramatically improves their framerates.
Other than that, sounds like you may have to shell out some $$.
PirateXP
03-29-06, 12:42 AM
Maybe you could also dig around for a way to force the Oblivion to run in DX8-mode. If it could be done I bet it would run nicely.
Ok, what you need to do, is go into C:\MyDocuments\MyGames\Oblivion and find the Oblivion.ini . Back it up, and then copy what is in this page into it, save, and start the game up again in 800x600. Should work moderatly.
http://studentpages.scad.edu/~doeddy20/OblivionVeryLow.ini
>HyperlogiK<
05-03-06, 07:58 AM
supposedly the beta patch for oblivion has a 'ultra low quality' mode which allows it to run on an FX 5200, or at least that is what a few people at Hard OCP were saying.
linky
http://www.theelderscrolls.com/downloads/updates_patchnotes5.htm#4
theres a mod called "oldblivion" that allows it to work on a 5200.
AngelfireUk83
05-03-06, 09:05 AM
I had a FX5200 128mb I bought a 6200 to get the improved shader model and open GL it gave me a chance to see what it feels like to smash up a g.card with a hammer :D
icedragn
05-03-06, 12:44 PM
you can use a modded oblivion.ini file, it's what i use for my fx5700 and i get like 50ish fps, sometimes higher, and like 30fps in the world, all on low of course and the ini file strips all the other graphics elements down to crap... but it made it playable, good thing im getting my 7600GT soon... will get to see what it SHOULD look like :P
You can try googling around, but when i get home to my own computer i will attach the ini file here for you, i would also suggest pushing that fx5200 to it's limits(overclock) and trying some tweaked drivers like z-tweaked, im using 81.85 from www.thezproject.org
GL
Soichiro
05-03-06, 01:22 PM
Even if you get it running, it'll look like crap. The FX5200s suck like crap, so just save up for a new 6800.
icedragn
05-03-06, 01:36 PM
Even if you get it running, it'll look like crap. The FX5200s suck like crap, so just save up for a new 6800.
It does look like crap :P, but you still get into the game just the same.
striker85
05-03-06, 01:38 PM
I can't believe you are still running an FX5200. I ditched my POS 5200 when BF2 came out and got a 6800. After I fried that I got a *gulp* x800gto.
>HyperlogiK<
05-03-06, 04:04 PM
hey, I just fixed the PC of a guy who still games on a Riva TNT, I overclocked his Compaq Pentium 2 by a whopping 35 Mhz and the TNT by 21 Mhz. I am also putting the finishing touches to my Voodoo 3 gaming box. Long live old hardware!
RJARRRPCGP
05-03-06, 10:15 PM
If I remember correctly, there are some dx9 games that won't even run on the 5200. I think it is somewhere in tomshareware review that they are doing the benchmark, the 5200 didn't even get any fps.
That sounds like a blacklist. It seems like they are just partially anti-Nvidia.
The GeForce FX5200 probably isn't as bad as people think it is.
The Radeon 9200 SE likely is even slower! Pathetic. The Radeon 9200 SE is even slower then a Radeon 9000 Pro! The Radeon 9200 SE was the one that had insanely low clocks. It would stuggle to embarrass a GeForce 2 MX 200! LOL!
Soichiro
05-03-06, 10:18 PM
The GeForce FX5200 probably isn't as bad as people think it is.
I have one. It BARELY outperforms the onboard video on my Celly rig. Many people know that it's the WORST card in about 5 generations, and I'm not exaggerating either.
I have one. It BARELY outperforms the onboard video on my Celly rig. Many people know that it's the WORST card in about 5 generations, and I'm not exaggerating either.
I used to have one
guess how it ran halo?
640x480 all low settings with some stutter when tons of action was taking place
pretty good card right?
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