View Full Version : oh god....Halo 3
Don't get me wrong but I loved Halo 1 and 2...just the hype that's going to come off this...
Since it's the 360 people will be blown away by amazing graphics + the fact its "halo"
oh god...
NsOmNiA91130
04-29-06, 07:34 PM
I hope it goes back to Sci-Fi like the original Halo. The second one was too actiony, and was sort of pushing you along.
I would prefer if they anounced it a month before release. That would keep the hype down. The hype was so big for Halo 2 that no game could live up to it.
Preferrence...
I am not the biggest Halo fan...But all personal opinion aside..
Halo had a cool storyline..and decent gameplay for the sci fi Shooter-genre.
I must say though....Is it me..Or is the game industry losing its individuality/creativity by just remaking all the games that were created in the past 6 years...
Kind of unfortunate really.
I'll judge the game based on it's merits. Not it's fanatical fanbase.
Enablingwolf
04-29-06, 10:05 PM
I judge a game if it keeps me smiling mid game and beyond. Halo was a fun game. Never played Halo revisited. The first one was just plain fun. Plus the Red vs. Blue were fun to watch.
All the hype of Halo 2 and that wierd thing they had going prior to release of it. Kind of turned me off to even wanting to try it.
You really should not judge to play a game by the hpye..
Enablingwolf
04-29-06, 10:34 PM
I can't judge Halo 2. Since I never played it. All the hype made me very blase about wanting to try it. Just no motivation to get it to try. I feel I already played it to death even before it came out.
Shadowhawk109
04-29-06, 11:14 PM
Its impossible to make a game as good as the hype around it. Halo 1 had an AMAZING story mode, but not-so-great multiplayer. Halo 2 had a halfassed story mode, and a flawed multiplayer. (I think that the MP for H2 should have been more "select a server" than MakeAMatch.) Seems to me that if Micro$UCK put HALF as much effort into designing H3 as they will in promoting it, you'd have a perfect game. As it is, H3 will probably just be a set up for the Halo MMO they're developing. I have my own thoughts on that-PM me if you wanna hear them.
...hear them.
Sorry if I sound like Tom Cruise on this issue but... You have no idea what you are babeling about. "Micro$UCK" does not touch Halo. You have no idea about the inner workings of Bungie. You don't know the history behind Halo and Bungie. I do. Frogblast the vent core!
Fireside85281
04-30-06, 03:26 AM
Eh, I thought they were planning on releasing Halo 2 for the Vista release. So Halo 2 never came out for PC, but H3 will for the 360? /sigh I just don't like FPS on anything besides PC.
Sorry if I sound like Tom Cruise on this issue but... You have no idea what you are babeling about. "Micro$UCK" does not touch Halo. You have no idea about the inner workings of Bungie. You don't know the history behind Halo and Bungie. I do. Frogblast the vent core!
I DO know that when MS bought Bungie there was a schism and some (or alot) left because of it.
That being said, H2 in terms of plot goes places that the first game didn't. (The covenant side of the equation.) And the story mode was alot less repetative than H1s. They had many more weps, and slightly better balance. But when push comes to shove I'm going with Halo 1 for multiplayer. I'd rather have one all purpose gun that's great (The pistol.) than a dozen different guns that suck.
Dan0512
04-30-06, 03:50 AM
Bah, halo was one of those fps that didn't impress me, but everyone else.
Perfect Dark for n64 is the best console fps I've played.
dan
Perfect Dark for n64 is the best console fps I've played.
dan
Word. I've played Halo 1 on pc and wasn't too drawn into it. I've played Halo 2 multiplayer on xbox a little and thought it was alright. But Perfect Dark is a classic. Its the ONLY thing thats pushing me to perhaps get the 360!
beavismorpheus
04-30-06, 04:19 AM
the greatest times i had with halo were halo 1 multiplayer. i dont know if you guys ever played it online, but it was huge on xbox connect or gamespy tunneling service.
I didnt get much enjoyment out of halo 2. i was halo'd out from halo 1 and there wasnt much they could add to it to make it better. i feel that they tried way too hard and overcomplicated what halo was all about with halo 2 and it ended up worse. dual wielding, homing rockets, destructable vehicles, pick my match for me? rubbish
this is all my opinion though. maybe you liked what they added in halo 2. or maybe you can see through the hype and feel the way i do.
AngelfireUk83
04-30-06, 08:27 AM
Halo is the best out of the 2 for storyline and it's just got that thing in it that makes you wanna go further into it. And it's also got the proper sci-fi Humans Vs. Alien race feel to it. Halo 2 seemed to end Halo 1's excellent sci-fi thing by making it too much of Human's just kick ass and the thing's over.
Take for example Aliens the movie we have marines thinking there just bugs but not relising that 45 mins into the film. Half the team gets wiped out by them exept for Hicks, Hudson, Riply, Newt, Vaskes & Bishop or and Gorman.
But they went in thought it was an easy job to release POWs but even then the Aliens did something good. They took the POWs under a reactor shoot that your all dead.
blueswitch
04-30-06, 10:37 AM
honestly....I remember when bungie released the first screens of Halo at Macworld...when it was going to be released on Mac first....then MS buying Bungie...then it being xbox only ****ed me off....but once I brokedown bought an xbox after about 2 years after it's release....played Halo (kept me up till 4am the first night I remember) I couldn't wait for Halo 2 and I thought the story of Halo 2 was awsome...seeing the covenant side of things...part of what makes both Halo's so good is their presentation, music is perfect voice acting is perfect.
Fact is: Halo 3 will be a reason to buy a 360...I just hope they are on 65nm process with large price drops by then.
cornbread
04-30-06, 02:35 PM
I must say though....Is it me..Or is the game industry losing its individuality/creativity by just remaking all the games that were created in the past 6 years...
No it's not just you, I notice the trend also, but as long as people pay the $$$, game companies will continue to milk the franchise. Games that come to mind, GTA series, Mario's, Resident Evil (except 4, it was a much different polished game), Madden Football, etc. Sure they are diffeent from the previous versions, but they really don't offer anything new besides new worlds and maybe new power-ups etc...whoop te do.
Same thing is happening in the movie industry, remake, remakes and more remakes, and they wonder why ticket sales are dropping :rolleyes:
Halo 2 is still my primary game for multi-player FPS.
The first one was really fun for run 'n gun because of the pistol...but, if you translate that game into Live with quick, convenient, and widely accessable multiplayer, the game would be ridiculed for having terrible balance.
If you try to play the second one like the first one, it is quickly frustrating. It's much more strategic and cerebral. Weapons are highly situational. It plays completely different, but is far superior overall. I couldn't stand to go back and play multiplayer in Halo 1 anymore...running around with the pistol would be way too boring. Once they added Battle Rifles as starting weapons in the big maps, things changed a lot. If the masses of people that tried the Live multiplayer early on and quickly moved on slowly tried it again after all the tweaks and refinement and without all the hype, perceptions would probably be drastically different.
boris_37
05-01-06, 02:39 PM
I would prefer no more halo. Don't get me wrong the ideas put into it are in good faith, but omg... what a bunch of poor and awful games.
FPS(lame) games like halo are a north american fad. They are popular like reality tv, which i also do not like.
There is nothing fun, or exciting about halo. I sat with friends, whom which i really enjoy playing games with, and found myself bored out of my mind. We played halo for 1-2 hours(i forget, it was hell in itself) and i still hated it maybe even more than before.
It's just sad how much people like these games. Go somewhere like japan which there are a lot more people and they like these games a lot less. 360 was sold out everywhere in the states +canada, then in japan, there were tons of them sitting on the shelf and nintendo DS's were sold out. funny.
Also they are making a halo movie which has me sick to my stomach because i have yet to see a good video game movie besides the mario bros(although it was wrong it rocked). haha
My 2 cents.
**edit**
i also like FPS games for clarification, but the newer ones are rehashed and boring or just poor ideas.
FudgeNuggets
05-01-06, 02:44 PM
I didn't care for Halo myself as I don't most FPS games, but even though they deny it you can darned near carve it in stone that the Halo 3/PS3 release will be as near simultaneous as Microsoft can get it.
It's just sad how much people like these games. Go somewhere like japan which there are a lot more people and they like these games a lot less. 360 was sold out everywhere in the states +canada, then in japan, there were tons of them sitting on the shelf and nintendo DS's were sold out. funny.
Hmm...well, look at a lot of the stuff that actually is widely popular gaming in Japan. They generally aren't even into PC gaming much. I certainly don't think they are on a higher plateau of gaming nirvana over there. Just a different hill at best.
I think the Halo games are good games, just heavily hyped and not to everyone's taste.
Falcon-K
05-01-06, 03:25 PM
Preferrence...
I am not the biggest Halo fan...But all personal opinion aside..
Halo had a cool storyline..and decent gameplay for the sci fi Shooter-genre.
I must say though....Is it me..Or is the game industry losing its individuality/creativity by just remaking all the games that were created in the past 6 years...
Kind of unfortunate really.
But when you consider games like super mario compared to super mario brothers 2, 3, ect for both the NES and SNES how much changed with the story, gameplay, or even music/graphics. People were dissappointed when Mario got a water Jetpack as his "revolutionary" new gameplay element and people really docked mario sunshine for it. I dont remember hearing that when Mario 2 or 3 came out, yet the gameplay on mario 3 is pretty similar to the original.
People keep saying everything is rehashed well its always been that way. Look at castlevania games. The little differences in gameplay are there but they are pretty much the same.
Take Zelda games, how much has the stories really changed with Link/Zelda? Final fantasy 1,2,3 or Nes/Snes(US numbering)? Goldenye N64 to Perfect Dark N64, the story changed/setting but the gameplay was almost 100% the same? Mega man series? Street Fighter series? I could really go on for a long time.
Rehashing games isnt new, the only revolutionary thing to happen to gaming in the past 15 years is the move to 3D.
Dan0512
05-01-06, 03:25 PM
It's just sad how much people like these games. Go somewhere like japan which there are a lot more people and they like these games a lot less. 360 was sold out everywhere in the states +canada, then in japan, there were tons of them sitting on the shelf and nintendo DS's were sold out. funny.
They are probably all playing their 18+ girl sims... :beer:
Nevermind. In Japan some games are releases that we never get to see in America/Europe. Remember that from the N64 days :cry: can't remember particular names though.
dan
boris_37
05-01-06, 03:30 PM
But when you consider games like super mario compared to super mario brothers 2, 3, ect for both the NES and SNES how much changed with the story, gameplay, or even music/graphics. People were dissappointed when Mario got a water Jetpack as his "revolutionary" new gameplay element and people really docked mario sunshine for it. I dont remember hearing that when Mario 2 or 3 came out, yet the gameplay on mario 3 is pretty similar to the original.
People keep saying everything is rehashed well its always been that way. Look at castlevania games. The little differences in gameplay are there but they are pretty much the same.
Take Zelda games, how much has the stories really changed with Link/Zelda? Final fantasy 1,2,3 or Nes/Snes(US numbering)? Goldenye N64 to Perfect Dark N64, the story changed/setting but the gameplay was almost 100% the same? Mega man series? Street Fighter series? I could really go on for a long time.
Rehashing games isnt new, the only revolutionary thing to happen to gaming in the past 15 years is the move to 3D.
yeah i know what you mean, but i think he meant to say its been happening more then it was before. Which in some cases might be true... but i cant comment, not done enough research.
Also a misconception for many is "FF series omg... so gay, they just keep remaking the game" which it's a totally different story and sometimes different game.
Sidenote on that however... whats happened when they get to FF30? FFXXX? hmmm will it actually contain nudity ? I HOPE SO!!! haha.
Falcon-K
05-01-06, 03:47 PM
yeah i know what you mean, but i think he meant to say its been happening more then it was before. Which in some cases might be true... but i cant comment, not done enough research.
Also a misconception for many is "FF series omg... so gay, they just keep remaking the game" which it's a totally different story and sometimes different game.
Sidenote on that however... whats happened when they get to FF30? FFXXX? hmmm will it actually contain nudity ? I HOPE SO!!! haha.
dont get me wrong I love the FF series, its just the gameplay of them hasnt changed a whole lot, like FF/FF2 you walked around and engaged enemys in a random manor, it turned to classic turned based combat, then you leveled up and what not.
I also loved games like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark and all the other games I listed but there isnt a whole lot of differences between GE and PD gameplay wise. I bet if I put them next to someone who never played the games before and let them play around they might not be able to distinguish between the two.
genghisjohn
05-02-06, 07:35 AM
Go somewhere like japan which there are a lot more people and they like these games a lot less. 360 was sold out everywhere in the states +canada, then in japan, there were tons of them sitting on the shelf and nintendo DS's were sold out. funny.
Not true, the US (about 297 million) alone has more than double the population of Japan (about 127 million). I think that the two gaming cultures are completely different though. Plus the Japanese are more likely to pick up a game or console because it was made in their country. We in North America have been buying Asian electronic products for decades.
I loved Halo 1 and 2. I agree that since the patches to Halo 2 the multiplayer became great. I will be picking up a 360 when Halo 3 comes out.
P.S. The books weren't half bad either.
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Rozal's Log supplemental 244-67.1: I think when Halo first came out, many people liked it for those who played, a friend showed me the game and I loved it, made me want to buy an Xbox. Those who didn't like it just said it's OK.
However I notice with Halo 2 (which was pretty good aswell) and the hype, there are the people who enjoyed the game, and the people who...'grudge' the game.
When I started playing WoW, I said to a friend I would either waste 14 days or become addicted, I became a addicted. Since my friend didn't have the funds to pay for the game, he had a grudge against it. He never played the game or possibly even seen someone play it, yet he still judges it. There are also people who play to level 10 (which is about an hour or 2) and judge the game just by taking in a fraction of the true experience.
I see alot of people doing the same thing with consoles, and games. Suddenly, every game coming out for console is automatically 'pre-rendered, or screenshots are fake.
PS Bungie will have a Halo 3 video at E3
deathman20
05-02-06, 01:34 PM
I'm looking forward to it. Halo 2 wasn't really great considering that Halo 1 was impressive (even considering the hype that was draged out for years). Don't get me wrong though if I play Co-Op game at the top of the list is Halo 2 for my Xbox.
I can't wait for it, and we all knew they would make another one since Halo 2. Just hope they don't try rushing it or cut anything out, but the most important thing, NO DANG CLIFF HANGER like Halo 2, man that just bugged me itchin for more.
Once they finish this one. Maybe they can shelve the fanchise until the next generation. Maybe go back to another one like Marathon.
I think after Halo they will be done with FPS for a while. Halo was supposed to be an RTS once upon a time. There has been talk by some of the Bungie staff about doing an RTS in the future. Since Blizzard seems to never want to do the Starcraft 2 I hope that Bungie will fill my need for a next-gen RTS.
Makaelin
05-02-06, 11:15 PM
Sorry if I sound like Tom Cruise on this issue but... You have no idea what you are babeling about. "Micro$UCK" does not touch Halo. You have no idea about the inner workings of Bungie. You don't know the history behind Halo and Bungie. I do. Frogblast the vent core!
They didn't "touch" Halo. But they did buy Bungie and make them start from scratch on a near-finished product so that it would be an exclusive release for their XBox. Halo would've been revolutionary had Bungie been allowed to release it on time. With a near two-year delay thanks to Microshaft wanting it on the Xsux, it was just another ol' FPS.
Yeah, another ol' FPS. That's why Halo 2 had over 1.5 million preorders, made 125 million dollars in it's first 24 hours, and had the best opening day of ANYTHING EVER. Because Halo was "just another ol' FPS".
Words cant describe how mad I would be if they even thought of starcraft 2 on the console rather than PC
Makaelin
05-03-06, 08:56 AM
Yeah, another ol' FPS. That's why Halo 2 had over 1.5 million preorders, made 125 million dollars in it's first 24 hours, and had the best opening day of ANYTHING EVER. Because Halo was "just another ol' FPS".
That means nothing. The Sims is the best-selling PC game of all time. Scary, eh?
Besides, you completely missed my point. Halo was a good FPS. But it wasn't anything special in the genre. Games beat it out that incorporated the same features that Bungie would've trailblazed, had MS not made them start over for their stupid console. Keep in mind that the original Halo was supposed to be out in the early Geforce2 days.
deathman20
05-03-06, 10:07 AM
had MS not made them start over for their stupid console. Keep in mind that the original Halo was supposed to be out in the early Geforce2 days.
Ya and wasn't it originally for the Mac also? Before it switched to the PC then console.
Ya and wasn't it originally for the Mac also? Before it switched to the PC then console.
It was going to be for PC and Mac originally. Then after the Microsoft buyout it was made for the Xbox with plans to release it on PC and Mac at a later date.
That means nothing. The Sims is the best-selling PC game of all time. Scary, eh?
Besides, you completely missed my point. Halo was a good FPS. But it wasn't anything special in the genre. Games beat it out that incorporated the same features that Bungie would've trailblazed, had MS not made them start over for their stupid console. Keep in mind that the original Halo was supposed to be out in the early Geforce2 days.
But the sims was a good game, anyways please stay on topic.
NO DANG CLIFF HANGER like Halo 2, man that just bugged me itchin for more.
I have to aggree. For me this was the worst part of Halo 2. I finished the game wanting more and in rather disbelief for a while. I was pretty upset that I spend $30 for the collectors edition and got a crappy ending.
But over all I loved Halo 1 and 2. Halo 1 had a great story line and excellent gameplay. The co-op story line made it a little more challenging when you actually cordinated attacks with friend(mostly not to blow each other up with a grenade). Halo 2 also had a great story line. It took you much further to help realize why the covenant wanted to guard Halo so badly. For once you werent fighting just a "bad guy" that just wanted to kill you for getting close to something. You got to see into their eyes as to why they wanted it so baddly. I think the story line for Halo 2 was great and helped to take game that much further and deeper.
*spoiler alert for those that havnt played halo 2*
I am afraid for Halo 3 though. At the end of halo 2 we see master chief hitching a rid back to earth to find out that earth is being invaded. It's hard for me to see where this story line is going to go. What kind of twist or revaltion could they have? They invade earth - master chief saves earth. Whats the new idea, or the new twist? Im worried about that.
As for gameplay, both games rocked. I think the reason a lot of people hated the game was the fact you could only hold 2 weapons. I highly disliked this at first but I grew to love it. It added an extra "feel" to the game because I had to go back and find what I was looking for or preffered in the game. It wasnt just sitting right at my feet. It also added to the gameplay as well. It made it much more interesting.
Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.
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